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US Should Send European Troops (Not NATO) To Ukraine, Say Some Within US Establishment

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US Should Send European Troops (Not NATO) To Ukraine, Say Some Within US Establishment

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Written by Uriel Araujo, researcher with a focus on international and ethnic conflicts

The “taboo” about Europe sending troops to Ukraine “has been broken”. Proposing that would be “inconceivable” a few months ago, but French President Emmanuel Macron paved the way to bringing this scenario to the table when he said, on February 26, that deploying European forces to the Slavic country should not be “ruled out”. Thus argue Alex Crowther (Retired US Colonel), Jahara Matisek (Military Professor at the U.S. Naval War College), and Philips P. O’Brien (Head of the School of International Relations at the University of St. Andrews), in their recent Foreign Affairs piece. There have been mixed messages on Ukraine from Western leaders; what is going on?

Last month I wrote on how Macron’s increasingly bellicose (albeit ambiguous) rhetoric was, at first, immediately countered by other NATO leaders, such as German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and others, as well as, across the Atlantic, US President John Biden.

The tide could be turning: thus far, the Finnish defense minister and the Polish foreign minister have echoed Macron’s call by suggesting their forces could be deployed to Ukraine too – it has a lot to do with “flexing muscle”, preparing, that is, for a Trump presidency scenario.

Despite so much European panic over a new Trump inauguration and his supposed promise to “never come to help” Europe, the truth is that the Republican’s “isolationism” can only go so far – as is the case of any American president in the context of the US so called “double government” system, as Tufts University political scientist Michael J. Glennon describes it (some word it more ungenerously by bluntly calling it a “secret government”). Trump’s own record speaks volumes against any notion of him being an “isolationist” in any sense – one just needs to ask the Venezuelans, or the Iranians, for that matter.

Similarly, it would be quite unwise to bet on France’ (or Germany, for that matter) flirtation with “strategic autonomy”, the European version of non-alignmentism. To put it simply, European powers, France included, are way too intertwined within NATO’s structures to go too far away from it.

Speaking of the Atlantic Alliance, the provisions on its Article 5 (which is the very core of the pact) are still binding. It states:

“the Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all… if such an armed attack occurs, each of them… will assist the Party or Parties so attacked… to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.”

In a Schrödinger’s cat kind of reasoning, Crowther, Matisek, and O’Brien argue in the aforementioned piece that in the scenario they propose, “European forces would be acting outside the NATO framework and NATO territory”, and therefore “any casualties would not trigger an Article 5 response and draw in the United States”. After all, they add, “Russia’s opponent would not be NATO but a coalition of European countries seeking to balance against naked Russian imperialism”. One can clearly see the cat’s tail here: it is basically a coalition of NATO members which, however, is not NATO. I am not sure Moscow (or anybody) would buy that.

Again, article 5 wording specifically mentions “an armed attack” against any NATO member taking place “in Europe or North America”, while article 6 further specifies, for the purpose of article 5, that this includes any attack “on the forces, vessels, or aircraft of any of the Parties, when in or over these territories or any other area in Europe in which occupation forces of any of the Parties were stationed on the date when the Treaty entered into force or the Mediterranean Sea or the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer.”

In any case, a little bit of political and legal (not to mention military) realism can be refreshing sometimes. Legal technicalities apart, from a Western perspective, if Europe sends troops to the combat zone in Ukraine and Russia retaliates by attacking European targets while the US just watches it and does nothing, then NATO is pointless. It would undermine the Atlantic Alliance credibility and raison d’être forever.

Washington has been, time and time again, showing itself quite willing  to fight “to the last Ukrainian” –  as in the dark humor joke which Biden almost paraphrased in a statement back in December 2022. If one looks at the modus operandi of the US-led West, the last years have largely been about the proxification of conflicts, be it by employing irregular forces (and even terrorist groups) as “proxies” or by trying to do so with allied sovereign nations: arguably such is the case in Ukraine and also Israel. Proxifying Europe itself would be a long shot, though.

One may agree or disagree with the ongoing Russian military operations taking place on Ukrainian soil since 2022, and notwithstanding any valid criticism one may, it would be unwise to deny the role NATO expansion had in causing and aggravating this crisis. The point is: if Moscow decision in February 24, 2022 was met with surprise by many in the West, the consequences of sending European troops to the battlefield could surpass any calculation and bring about a point of no return no one desires – and yet, for some reason, to paraphrase Borell (and Nietzsche), Western leaders have been dancing on the edge of the abyss for too long now.

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Bucuresti

mociolacu si mociuca vor sa mearga sa lupte

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Bucuresti

din animale ( iliescu) am devenit populatie neesentiala (morafat) si apoi extremisti ( miciolacu)

Bucuresti

suprema umilinta. nu atomica. le as da jos zeci si sute de sateliți. plus ew total. plus ew in kurile sa afle si imparatul

jens holm

they have speech there. the non deciders speeak too even a few are restricted by military secrets and like that.

it make no sence to refer usa by those, which dont decide. we has elections for it with even with more then one candidate.

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_TomSawyer_

are you drunk again, or just incapabele of coherent sentences?

nazis like you should stick to german.

🤡 😆😆😆

Patrick

since you clearly have eaten every single crayon color in existence, which one tastes the best?

Deep Srate

anyone who thinks this is not an idea from the usa deep state should think again. to take russia without a nuclear war is impossible the usa will intervene when western europe is nuked. they (usa) then capture western europe and try to take russia for themselves then move on to the next batch of fools.

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Clyde

they have owned western europe outright since 1945. the current round of the conflict with russia is to a high degree the result of trying to maintain that ownership.

Deep State

they have controlled western europe through involving them in financial transactions and installing leaders which is different. to regain control and bring their populations through de-industrialization they want a universal enemy and militarism.

jull

one more in denial: it was boris johnson who prohibited peace negociation in march 2022

Deep State

if you think boris is anything more than a cog in the globalist wheel think again.

BunkerDwellers

“say ‘some’ within us establishment”. ‘some’ means the next group of controlled opposition. 3 – 6 guesses at what sort of groups they belong to. the second they try to disarm the citizens of america for real is the time it stops being a country with any states or representatives but a geographical location in constant war until every megalomaniac who can be recruited to the satanic cause is dead.

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Shaman

nato exposed as dumb paper tiger

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Crocus Shooting Gallery

everyone wants to joint the orc hunt !

heheheh

CEO of Yapping

get it in your head, ukraine is lost… cope all you want kike. the us pushing europeans to fight russians… means ukraine “winning”?

anyway when is ukraine super counteroffensive again orc? why ukraine losing ground and forcing children to fight?

if anyone was surprised how that stupid regime change worked in ukraine, they got orc like that. ukraine sold their women, kids, country and their men dying… that is winning to them.

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Clyde

except you? because you don’t seem to be running around donbas with your rifle.

Based US Vet

send the baltics to the front, their hate for russia is the strongest in nato. let them chihuahuas die

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jull

i suppose you’re suggesting the baltic puppet leaders installed by london are the worst kind of human piece of sh*t ? baltic have 40% russian, not necessary to send those to the butchery

CEO of Yapping

– ‘the naval forces of the yemeni armed forces targeted a british oil ship (andromeda star) in the red sea with a number of appropriate naval missiles, and the ship was directly hit’

– ‘the air defense forces of the yemeni armed forces also shot down an american mq-9 uav in the airspace of saada governorate’

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Jodi

all the countries that signed the so-called climate change treaty aren’t worried about co2 it’s about starting a nuclear holocaust which they think they can ride out in their luxurious underground cities for the next 20,000 years eating plant-based food and using the remainder of humans as their slaves.

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US Empire Of Misery

americans are laughing while europe, having learned nothing from history, destroys itself once again over a bunch of ukrainian neo nazis.

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jull

garbage article aimed at confusing everything. uk wants to involve the usa in a war against russia, art 5 is the excuse and all its porns (macron, poland, baltic tiny shits) are working hard toward this aim

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_TomSawyer_

we americans tell you eurotards when to jump, and you little bitches will get you third world war on your soil.

you have learned nothing because all of you are stupid sheep. baaaaaah bitchez 🤡 😆😆😆

_TomSawyer_

get your third worldwar on continental europe you eurotards, die for the mighty dollar! all of you “smart“ folks being outplayed by us “stupid maericans“ and a gas station.

hahahahaahahahha guillable idiot clowns! 🤡 😆😆😆

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Moshe Dayan

send the eugenicist warmongering profiteers to the front lines first, sniveling cowards that they are. that would end the conflict immediately.

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Nahavar

nobody is gonna die for the ukris. when the cannon fodder of kiev is over, it is done…. it is pathetic that kiev is gonna run out of slaves for the meat grinder than of weapons and westlie junk. it shows how less we care about ukranians… we are a disgusting society.

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Arab.news

today i readed from arabnews com that macron and zelensky made a secret securuty deal in paris at february, if russia enters to odessa or west ukraina makron ‘s troops, polands troops and finlands will fight with russian soldiers (germany not clear) but zelensky has to give west administration of ukraine to coalition forces, and this arab news site claims that france troops already at odessa right now and joining others

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Martillo

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn….the drug addled, transgender mutant freaks in urpp as in the united snakes couldn’t achieve anything in rump ukrapperland. now it’s only a question of time before the obese pig aka fat “lady” nuland aka nudelman strats howling. euro peons will thank mother russia when natostan collapses and with it the evil eussr and pentacon filth is kicked out of urupp. more z until $lumville implodes in its long over due civil war reloaded.

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