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A “Color Revolution” Is Under Way In The United States

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Written by The Saker; Originally appeared at The Unz Review

A Russian joke goes like this: “Question: why can there be no color revolution in the United States? Answer: because there are not US Embassies in the United States.

Funny, maybe, but factually wrong: I believe that a color revolution is being attempted in the USA right now.

Politico seems to feel the same way.  See their recent cover:

A “Color Revolution” Is Under Way In The United States

While I did predict that “The USA are about to face the worst crisis of their history” as far back as October of last year, a month before the elections, I have to admit that I am surprised and amazed at the magnitude of struggle which we see taking place before our eyes.  It is now clear that the Neocons did declare war on Trump and some, like Paul Craig Roberts, believe that Trump has now returned them the favor.  I sure hope that he is right.

Let’s look at one telling example:

US intelligence agencies are now investigating their own boss!  Yes, according to recent reports, the FBI, CIA, National Security Agency and Treasury Department are now investigating the telephone conversations between General Flynn and the Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyk.  According to Wikipedia, General Flynn is the former

  • Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency
  • Joint Functional Component Command for Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance
  • Chair of the Military Intelligence Board
  • Assistant Director of National Intelligence
  • Senior intelligence officer for the Joint Special Operations Command.

He is also Trump’s National Security Advisor.  In other words, his security clearance is stratospherically high and he will soon become the boss of all the US intelligence services.  And yet, these very same intelligence services are investigating him for his contacts with the Russian Ambassador.   That is absolutely amazing.  Even in the bad old Soviet Union, the putatively almighty KGB did not have the right to investigate a member of the Communist Party Central Committee without a special authorization of the Politburo (a big mistake, in my opinion, but never mind that).  That roughly means that the top 500 members of the Soviet state could not be investigated by the KGB at all.  Furthermore, such was the subordination of the KGB to the Party that for common criminal matters the KGB was barred from investigating any member of the entire Soviet Nomenklatura, roughly 3 million people (and even bigger mistake!).

But in the case of Flynn, several US security agencies can decide to investigate a man who by all standards ought to be considered at least in the top 5 US officials and who clearly has the trust of the new President.  And that does not elicit any outrage, apparently.

By the same logic, the three letter agencies might as well investigate Trump for his telephone conversations with Vladimir Putin.

Which, come to think of it, they might well do it soon…

This is all absolutely crazy because this is evidence that the US intelligence community as gone rogue and is now taking its orders from the Neocons and their deep state and not from the President and that these agencies are now acting against the interests of the new President.

A “Color Revolution” Is Under Way In The United States

In the meantime, the Soros crowd has already chosen a color: pink.  We now are witnessing the “pussyhat revolution” as explained on this website.  And if you think that this is just a small fringe of lunatic feminists, you would be quite wrong.  For the truly lunatic feminists the “subtle” hint about their “pussyhat revolution” is too subtle, so they prefer making their statement less ambiguous as the image on the right shows.

This would all be rather funny, in a nauseating way I suppose, if it wasn’t for the fact that the media, Congress and Hollywood are fully behind this “100 days of Resistance to Trump” which began by a, quote, “queer dance party” at Mike Pence’s house.

This would be rather hilarious, if it was not for all gravitas with which the corporate media is treating these otherwise rather pathetic “protests”.

Watch how MCNBS’s talking head blissfully reporting this event (SOURCE).

Listen carefully to what Moore says at 2:00.  He says that they will “celebrate the fact that Obama is still the President of the United States” and the presstitute replies to him, “yes he is” not once, but twice.

What are they talking about?!  The *fact* that Obama is still the President?!

How is it that Homeland Security and the FBI are not investigating MCNBC and Moore for rebellionand sedition?

So far, the protests have not been too large, but they did occur in various US cities and they were well covered by the media:

Make no mistake, such protest are no more spontaneous than the ones in the Ukraine.  Somebody is paying for all this, somebody is organizing it all.  And they are using their full bag of tricks.  One more example:

Remember the pretty face of Nayirah, the Kuwaiti nurse who told Congress that she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers tossing our babies from Kuwaiti incubators (and who later turned out to be the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States)?  Do you remember the pretty face of Neda, who “died on TV” in Iran?  Well, let me introduce you to Bana Alabe, who wrote a letter to President Trump and, of course, the media got hold of the latter and now she is the “face of the Syrian children”.

A “Color Revolution” Is Under Way In The United States

Want even more proof?

Okay, click here and take a look at a sampling of anti-Trump caricatures and cartoons complied by the excellent Colonel Cassad.  Some of them are quite remarkable.  From this nauseating collection, I will select just two:

A “Color Revolution” Is Under Way In The United States

The first one clearly accuses Trump of being in the hands of Putin.  The second one make Trump the heir to Adolf Hitler and strongly suggests that Trump might want to restart Auschwitz.  Translated into plain English this sends a double message: Trump is not the legitimate President of the USA and Trump is the ultimate Evil.

This goes far beyond the kind of satire previous Presidents have ever been subjected to.

My purpose in listing all the examples above is to suggest the following: far from having accepted defeat, the Neocons and the US deep state have decided, as they always do, to double-down and they are now embarking on a full-scale “color revolution” which will only end with the impeachment, overthrowal or death of Donald Trump.

One of the most amazing features of this color revolution against Trump is the fact that those behind it don’t give a damn about the damage that their war against Trump does to the institution of the President of the United States and, really, to the United States as a whole.  That damage is, indeed, immense and the bottom line is this: President Trump is in immense danger of being overthrown and his only hope for survival is to strike back hard and fast.

The other amazing thing is the ugly role Britain plays in this process: all the worst filth against Trump is always eventually traced back right to the UK.  How come?  Simple.  Do you recall how, formally at least,  the CIA and NSA  did not have the right to spy on US nationals and the British MI6 and GCHQ had no right to spy on British nationals.  Both sides found an easy way out: they simply traded services: the CIA and NSA spied on Brits, the MI6 and GCHQ spied on Americans, and then they simply traded the data between “partners” (it appears that since Obama came to power all these measures have now become outdated and everybody is free to spy on whomever the hell they want, including their own nationals).  The US Neocons and the US deep state are now using the British special services to produce a stream of filth against Trump which they then report as “intelligence” and which then can be used by Congress as a basis for an investigation.  Nice, simple and effective.

The bottom line is this: President Trump is in immense danger of being overthrown and his only hope for survival is to strike back hard and fast.

Can he do that?

Until now I have suggested several times that Trump deal with the US Neocons the way Putin dealt with the oligarchs in Russia: get them on charges of tax evasion, corruption, conspiracy, obstruction of justice, etc.  All that good stuff which the US deep state has been doing for years.  The Pentagon and the Three Letter Agencies are probably the most corrupt entities on the planet and since they have never been challenged, never mind punished, for their corruption they must have become fantastically complacent about how they were doing things, essentially counting on the White House to bail them out in case of problems.  The main weapon used by these circles are the numerous secrecy laws which protect them from public and Congressional scrutiny.  But here Trump can use his most powerful card: General Flynn who, as former director of the DIA and current National Security Advisor to the President will have total access.  And if he doesn’t – he can create it, if needed by sending special forces to ensure “collaboration”.

However, I am now beginning to think that this might not be enough.  Trump has a much more powerful weapon he can unleash against the Neocon: 9/11.

Whether Trump knew about it before or not, he is now advised by people like Flynn who must have known for years that 9/11 was in inside job.  And if the actual number of people directly implicated in the 9/11 operation itself was relatively small, the number of people which put their full moral and political credibility behind the 9/11 official narrative is immense.  Let me put it this way: while 9/11 was a US “deep state” operation (probably subcontracted for execution to the Israelis), the entire Washington “swamp” has been since “9/11 accomplice after the fact” by helping to maintain the cover-up.  If this is brought into light, then thousands of political careers are going to crash and burn into the scandal.

9/11 was a collective crime par excellence.  A few men actually executed it, but then thousands, possibly tens of thousands, have used their position to execute the cover-up and to prevent any real investigation.  They are ALL guilty of obstruction of justice.  By opening a new investigation into 911, but one run by the Justice Department and NOT by Congress, Trump could literally place a “political handgun” next to the head of each politician and threaten to pull the trigger if he does not immediately give up on trying to overthrow Trump.  What Trump needs for that is a 100% trusted and 100% faithful men as the director of the FBI, a man with “clean hands, a cool head and a burning heart” (to use the expression of the founder of the Soviet Secret Police, Felix Dzerzhinsky).  This man will immediately find himself in physical danger so he will have to be a man of great personal courage and determination.  And, of course, this “man” could be a woman (a US equivalent of the Russian prosecutor, Natalia Poklonskaia).

I fully understand that danger of what I am suggesting as any use of the “9/11 weapon” will, of course, result in an immense counter-attack by the Neocons and the deep state.  But here is the deal: the latter are already dead set in impeaching, overthrowing or murdering Donald Trump.  And, as Putin once said in an interview, “if you know that a fight is inevitable, then strike first!”.

You think that all is this over the top?  Consider what is at stake.

First, at the very least, the Trump Presidency itself: the Neocons and the US deep state will not let Trump implement his campaign promises and program.  Instead they will sabotage, ridicule and misrepresent everything he does, even if this is a big success.

Second, it appears that Congress now has the pretext to open several different congressional investigations into Donald Trump.  If that is the case, it will be easy for Congress to blackmail Trump and constantly threaten him with political retaliation if he does not “get with the program”.

Third, the rabid persecution of Trump by the Neocons and the deep state is weakening the institution of the Presidency.  For example, the latest crazy notion floated by some politicians is to “prohibit the President of the United States from using nuclear weapons without congressional authorization except when the United States is under nuclear attack.”  From a technical point of view, this is nonsense, but what it does is send the following signal to the rest of the planet: “we, in Congress, believe that our Commander in Chief cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons.”  Never mind that they would trust Hillary with the same nukes and never mind that Trump could use only conventional weapons to trigger a global nuclear war anyway (by, for example, a conventional attack on the Kremlin), what they are saying is that the US President is a lunatic that cannot be trusted.  How can they then expect him to be take seriously on any topic?

Fourth, can you just imagine what will happen if the anti-Trump forces are successful?!  Not only will democracy be totally and terminally crushed inside the USA, but the risks of war, including nuclear, will simply go through the roof.

There is much more at stake here than just petty US politics.

Every time I think of Trump and every time I look at the news I always come back to the same anguished thought: will Trump have the intelligence to realize the fact that he is under attack and will he have the courage to strike back hard enough?

I don’t know.

I have a great deal of hopes for General Flynn.  I am confident that he understands the picture perfectly and knows exactly what is going on.  But I am not sure that he has enough pull with the rest of the armed forces to keep them on the right side should a crisis happen.  Generally, “regular” military types don’t like intelligence people.  My hope is that Flynn has loyal allies at SOCOM and JSOC as, at the end of the day, they will have the last say as to who occupies the White House.  The good news here is that unlike regular military types, special forces and intelligence people are usually very close and used to work together (regular military types also dislike special forces).  SOCOM and JSOC will also know how to make sure that the CIA doesn’t go rogue.

Last but not least, my biggest hope is that Trump will use the same weapon Putin used against the Russian elites: the support of the people.  But for that task, Twitter is simply not good enough.  Trump needs to go the “RT route” and open his own TV channel.  Of course, this will be very hard and time consuming, and he might have to begin with an Internet-based only channel, but as long as there is enough money there, he can make it happen.  And, just like RT, it needs to be multi-national, politically diverse (including anti-Empire figures who do not support Trump) and include celebrities.

One of the many mistakes made by Yanukovich in the Ukraine was that he did not dare to use the legal instruments of power to stop the neo-Nazis.  And to the degree that he used them, it was a disaster (like when the riot cops beat up student demonstrators).  After listening to a few interviews of Yanukovich and of people near him during those crucial hours, it appears that Yanukovich simply did not feel that he had a moral right to use violence to suppress the street.  We will never now if what truly held him back are moral principles of basic cowardice, but what is certain is that he betrayed his people and his country when he refused to defend real democracy and let the “street” take over replacing democracy with ochlocracy (mob rule).  Of course, real ochlocracy does not exists, all mobs are always controlled by behind-the-scenes forces who unleash them just long enough to achieve their goals.

The forces which are currently trying to impeach, overthrow or murder President Trump are a clear and present danger to the United States as a country and to the US Federal Republic.  They are, to use a Russian word, a type of “non-system” opposition which does not want to accept the outcome of the elections and which by rejecting this outcome essentially oppose the entire political system.

I am not a US citizen (I could, but I refuse that citizenship on principle because I refuse to take the required oath of allegiance) and the only loyalty I owe the USA is the one of a guest: never to deliberately harm it in any way and to obey its laws.  And yet it turns my stomach to see how easy it has been to turn millions of Americans against their own country.  I write a lot about russophobia on this blog, but I also see a deep-seated “Americanophobia” or “USophobia” in the words and actions who today say that Trump is not their President.  To them, they micro-identity as a “liberal” or as a “gay” or as “African-American” means more than the very basic fundamental principles upon which this country has been built.  When I see these crowds of Trump-bashers I see pure, seething hatred not of the AngloZionist Empire, or of a plutocracy masquerading as a democracy, but a hatred of what I would call the “simple America” or the “daily America” – the simple people amongst whom I have now lived for many years and learned to respect and appreciate and whom the Clinton-bots only think of as “deplorables”.

It amazes me to see that the US pseudo-elites have as much hatred, contempt and fear of the American masses as the Russian pseudo-elites have hatred, contempt and fear of the Russian masses (the Russian equivalent or Hillary’s “deplorables” would be a hard to pronounce for English speakers word “быдло“, roughly “cattle”, “lumpen” or “rabble”).  It amazes me to see that the very same people which have demonized Putin for years are now demonizing Trump using exactly the same methods.  And if their own country has to go down in their struggle against the common people – so be it!  These self-declared elites will have no compunction whatsoever to destroy the nation their have been parasitizing and exploiting for their own class interest.  They did just that to Russia exactly 100 years ago, in 1917.  I sure hope that they will not get away with that again in 2017.

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Tyrant Fashister

If they try it we will drown them in their own blood.So give us the pretext to go brownshirt ! Try it bolchevik scum !

Arthur Smith

http://eu.eot.su/about/manifesto/ The Bolsheviks sit comfortably in their training camps and don’t care about squabble between capitalists.

Pavel Pavlovich

I am sorry that I have to say this, but I have to. Saker is an imbecile if he believes that Trump does not have 90% or more support from the elites. I’ve had my problems with Saker for a long time, but now he’s gone completely retarded. Trump is the greatest danger to the emerging multipolar world BECAUSE he was chosen by the anglosaxon elite to solve the problems that the incompetent bureaucrat regime of Obomber has created. Trump’s sole aim will be to restore US power to 1993 when the Soviet Union was destroyed from within by pro-US elite figures.

Ask yourself: are you willing to let yourselves be duped time and time again by the same game? Faces always change, same rules still apply. This is geopolitics, a fight for prosperity by the global players (and regional players also join in). If you don’t get that Trump is no different essentially but potentially a more dangerous player for every nation that does not want to live under the heel of the Anglosaxons in this unipolar world then you deserve fully what you are going to get from Trump’s administration.

Fraggy_Krueger

With Hillary the course you describe would have been guaranteed – whether your assumptions regarding Trump are correct – we will see very soon. Also – as easy as this sounds on paper – the US has left scorched earth in many regards – and new powers have risen and clearly taken different positions and shown to be willing and able to defend these – whatever the new order will become – it will surely be very different to the one in the past.

Arthur Smith

Hillary antagonized Russia, now Trump antagonizes China. Does it really matter between whom the nuclear apocalypse is started?

Aquartertoseven

Like China isn’t antagonising the world? Look into what they’re doing in the South China Sea as well as the 300+ billion trade deficit with America, the IP thefts etc.

Arthur Smith

Chinese concept of the world focuses on China itself, so it’s not possible for them to invade far territories for purpose of filling it with their people. SCS is in their historical orbit, so either neighbors find a way to repel Chinese or they just have to suck it up – it isn’t business of european-settled US.

Aquartertoseven

So China doesn’t want the world but then you say that neighbours will have to suck it up if China invades them. Okay!

They want to control all of the trade routes with the South China Sea, giving them a sense of control not witnessed since the British Empire.

Boris Kazlov

You seem to be an imperial propagandist, know nothing about the Chinese culture, they are the most peaceful people in the world.

Aquartertoseven

And you sound like you have a gun to your head.

AMHants

Yes, but Hilary wanted war with both and at the same time.

Pavel Pavlovich

Thereyou erre, and greatly. Hillary Klingon is a one-trick pony, she would’ve continued Obongo’s course – and lead to a Cuban crisis. Even back in coward Khrushchev’s days we achieved the withdrawal of the missiles from Turkey – what do you think (if you think at all) would’ve happened this time with Putin, who is not a coward, and with equal nuclear arsenal (back then it was 10 times less)? That’s why they chose Trump, he is a more effective manager.

I remember the same kind of objections with Obama – wait and we will see. You are too blind to see or else have lost your wits, there is no other way of putting it.

888mladen .

In Khrushchev’s days there was no NATO Missile Shield less than 500 km away from Moscow.

Boris Kazlov

I share your thoughts, Trump just wants to restore the American-Jewish power to the peak of its strength, now that the Syrian war has taken the opposite turn of Jewish USA, he is planning an invasion with the excuse of safe zones.

Jesus

Trump does not have many elites on his side, the mainstream elites were banking on HC, the election results came as a surprise, therefore you have this nonstop friction between the opposing elites that control the media and other aspects of the government and Trump. Currently Trump has popular support among the everyday people, and seems to have selected specific individuals in his cabinet to ensure full support in case of a clash with the opposing elites. I believe he has the support of police departments in most cities, and the armed forces. Trump will be for America first, unlike the elites opposing him that sold America for their own enrichment; if the opposing elites try to impede him in implementing his agenda, he will size the opportunity when conditions allow, to assume full power as a dictator and systematically eliminate the opposition. Trump will try to control the world, by having US form alliances with other populist leaders from Europe, Asia….maybe Africa. The administrations from Clinton through Obama were manipulated and controlled by neocons, non Anglo-Saxon elites, Trump is on a collision course with them. It is either the neocons, or Trump and his vision for America and the world.

BMWA1

This is the correct assessment, I would note in passing that even the oft-maligned Koch Brothers as such were backing HRC againest Trump, that and 100% media network unity against Trump is surely a reflection of majority elite contra his presidency.

888mladen .

Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. Jeremiah 17:6

Jesus

Let me clarify myself, Trump trusts in himself not God.

AMHants

Now that is ironic, considering the name you go by.

Jesus

Why is it ironic?

AMHants

You are saying he believes himself to be above God, signed by Jesus???? Sorry, I just find it funny.

Arthur Smith

>caricatures and cartoons complied by the excellent Colonel Cassad I had my doubts, but now Saker is officially full of shit. A typical specimen of White Emigre.

>this “man” could be a woman (a US equivalent of the Russian prosecutor, Natalia Poklonskaia). Sure, lets sing praises to a profane that brought an icon-style portrait of Nicholas (II) The Bloody to The Immortal Regiment march. Sounds fitting Dzerzhinsky’s formula.

Pavel Pavlovich

Natalia Poklonskaya is a woman I would be proud of.

F**k communism, the anglosaxon invention to divide working class and

bourgeousie. F**k Saker too, the dupe/retard who is full of shit. May Russia rise again and Putin win his fight for liberation of homeland

from the imposed upon system by the anglosaxons, or we are ALL doomed

for the future to come. You better pray he restores Russian glory.

Arthur Smith

What there is to be proud of in a person that considers it’s ok to participate in anti-nazi parade with a portrait of person carrying responsibility for WWI and thus conditions that allowed WWII to happen?

>F**k communism, the anglosaxon invention to divide working class and bourgeousie The founder of communism is Jesus Christ, classes don’t matter at all.

>imposed upon system by the anglosaxons, or we are ALL doomed “You” (whatever that is) are doomed anyway, because you are a slave of fear – at least of xenophoby.

>You better pray he restores Russian glory. Praying for a man to save you, haha.

Jesus

The founder of communism is Jesus Christ? Did Marx, Engels and Lenin preach Jesus Christ that led to the Russian revolution? Would Jesus Christ have caused a civil war?

Arthur Smith

Communism is a wide category, associating it solely with marxism is pointless.

Jesus

I am neither, I am a Christian, communism is associated with Marxism, I am not aware of “communism” being contemplated as a system for the last 1800 years in the likeness of the communal Christian first century or early second century. What do you know about the antichrist?

Arthur Smith

So I was asking what sort of christian you are, with statements suggesting that you are charismatic.

>communism is associated with Marxism, I am not aware of “communism” being contemplated as a system in the likeness of the communal Christian first century or early second century.

Well, you are biased and narrow-minded, also obviously not suited for advocating christian faith in a debate, since your knowledge of church history is lacking.

>What do you know about the antichrist? Which one?

BMWA1

Maybe we can be pre-Schism Christians with the Russians!

Arthur Smith

Who are those “we”? And there are hardly any russians you could mend the Schism with.

Jesus

No, I am not charismatic….by that meaning Pentecostal or those imbued in glosollalia. Christian debate can be centered around Biblical terms and scriptural concepts. My knowledge of church history is derived from prophetic statements spoken by Jesus in the Book of Revelation…….not man made history…….but I can listen to what men had to say.

As far as the antichist as a person, there is one; as far as the spirit of the antichrist, it is the opposite of the Holy Spirit.

Arthur Smith

http://www.rusjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Nepluyev.pdf Here, have a taste of orthodox theology.

Jesus

Jesus encapsulated the entire spectrum of human service to God by two commandments. 1. Love God with all your heart, mind and soul 2. Love your neighbor as yourself.

If one desires to fulfill those commandments, God will endue that person with a new nature through the new birth, whereby you become a new creation.

888mladen .

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. Math 5:17 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day Math 12:8

888mladen .

The roman pontiff has been identified first time as an antichrist by Eastern Orthodox church. Later on the reformers from 16th right up to the first half of the 20th century shared the same understanding about the antichrist. Their understanding was based on the Bible prophecy particularly the Book of Revelation and 2Thessalonians 2:3,4.

Jesus

That is a traditional understanding, however, my understanding is Trump will become the antichrist and be allied with 10 leaders of nations to control the world. Rev 17: [12] And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. Also, in Daniel’s vision the feet of the image symbolizing Gentile power structure through the millenniums …..Etc.

Dan 2: [41] And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters’ clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. [42] And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. [43] And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. 44] And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

888mladen .

First of all antichrist is a system of false doctrine and pope is a supreme role with in that system. It doesn’t matter who as an individual is playing that role the system will always stay the same. That’s why Vatican claims to be immutable. That’s how antichrist system is perpetuated. It appears that you do not understand Revelation. US and Vatican are two different entities in Rev two ends of the one and the same stick In Rev 12 you’ve got pagan Rome and then Christian Rome. In ch 13 you’ve got continuation of the Christian Rome and you’ve got another entity which has 2 horns like a lamb however it speaks like Dragon. Jesus said that mouth speak out of abundance of the heart. So the second beast is of Satanic nature just like the first. It’s important to notice that the second beast comes after one of the heads of the composite beast had received deadly wounded. In the ch 12:6 it says that first beast will have supremacy for 1260 days. However prophetic days are not literal days. I have appointed thee each day for a year. Ezek 4:6 The longest prophetic chain of 2300 days of Daniel is based on the same day for year principle. We have no time to go into details of it. You need to understand the genesis of religious persecution and how it has been brought about. There was no persecution of other religious groups by Christians until so called Constantine’s marriage with the church. After he had secured his ascension to the throne he has received a title of the Christian Emperor of the Roman Holy See. Christianity became the state sponsored religion of the roman empire and persecution began. Religious persecution is natural result of church state partnership where church uses strong arm of the secular government to impose its religious dogmas on other religious groups. That’s the main flag of antichrist system and Revelation figuratively describes it as illicit sexual relationship since church is represented in the Bible as a women “I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate woman” Jer 6:2. In 1798 the papal medieval kingdom came to an end and persecution of protestants ceased. Papacy was wounded with the deadly wound. Papacy did not wield anymore secular power in order to impose its dogmas on protestant Christians. At the same time the second beast from Rev 13 has come on the scene. On the July the 2nd, 1776 the founding fathers signed the declaration of independence from British crown and US became “a kingdom without a king”. And from now on you can read ch 13 and see what role will US play in the process of the healing of the deadly wound of the composite beast from Rev 12 and 13. In short it will be a law enforcement agency of the first beast. Age comes before beauty. And once again remember a woman in prophecy represents a church. A chaste women a faithful church, an immoral woman apostate church. Watch carefully movements of papacy on international scene.

Jesus

“”First of all antichrist is a system of false doctrine and pope is a supreme role with in that system. It doesn’t matter who as an individual is playing that role the system will always stay the same. That’s why Vatican claims to be immutable. That’s how antichrist system is perpetuated. “”

Yes I agree, the antichrist system is an anti Word of God system. It is religious in nature having some scriptural precepts mixed with a heavy dose of men made commandments and traditions..

Jesus

“”It appears that you do not understand Revelation. US and Vatican are two different entities in Rev two ends of the one and the same stick In Rev 12 you’ve got pagan Rome and then Christian Rome. In ch 13 you’ve got continuation of the Christian Rome and you’ve got another entity which has 2 horns like a lamb however it speaks like Dragon.””

Rev 12 pertains to Israel, the woman described at the beginning of the chapter is the nation of Israel. The woman with two wings is the nation of Israel, the two wings representing the two prophets that will lead Israel at the end times and introduce the nation to Jesus Christ.

Just for clarification purposes I believe that God deals with Gentiles separately from the Jews, I see as a gentile dispensation and a Jewish dispensation.

Verse 17 of chapter 12 where the dragon makes war with the remnant of the seed of the woman who keep the commandments of God are Jews. The person of the antichrist is going to make war against the nation of Israel.

The first beast of chapter 13 pertains to the power system of papal Rome, second beast represents US. The second beast that is like a lamb and speaks as a dragon is US, espousing Christianity and acting in an evil manner; it is this beast that has the power over the entire world and imposes a Mark over the entire world, whereby one cannot buy or sell anything.

I am a little restricted in time, I will respond to your other points later in the day.

888mladen .

State of Israel it’s Zionist hoax. There is only spiritual Israel. Earthly Jerusalem has no significance too. It’s distraction, it’s deception. But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,6 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.7 Heb 12:22-24 Jews are not keeping the commandments of God because Jesus said ” for without me ye can do nothing.” John 15:5 They deny that Jesus is the son of God “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father” I John 2:22,23 They are part of antichrist system. That’s why they are allied with Vatican and US. Jesus calls them in Revelation “synagogue of Satan”. In order to be saved they need to acknowledge that Jesus is the Son of God.

Jesus

In the eyes of God there are Jews and gentiles, to the Jews were given the first oracles of God, because of disobedience they were spiritually blinded and killed their Messiah, whereby the Gentiles received an opportunity to know God through Jesus Christ. Please read what Paul has to say on the matter in Romans chapters 9-11. When God is finished with the gentiles He will turn back to the Jews. The very fact that the Jews are in their homelands is a sign of the end times, considering Jesus’ parable of the fig tree. Maybe the way the Jews resettled in present day Israel was not the most humane way, however, if you remember the OT conquest of Cannan by the jews, they were merciless with the cananites.

Jesus

Revelation chapter 12 pertains to the woman who was with a child, the child is Jesus Christ, ….the woman is the nation of Israel….who was married to God. There is no reason to ignore Israel’s role at the end time events if you read the Bible specifically without being influenced by political baggage and religious commentaries. The Bible states in Rev 11 that the Jews are going to have their temple and that gentiles are going to be present in Jerusalem for 3.5 years. Gentiles being present in Jerusalem would mean that the Jews will reach a peace agreement in the Middle East. After that 2 witnesses/prophets will come on the scene causing Israel to break the agreement and and develop a spiritual affinity towards God. There is a lot more to be said….I will stop here.

888mladen .

The woman is god’s church. The jews were God’s church until they crucified the messiah and eventually stoned Stephen. Since then woman represents Christian church who keeps His commandments and have the faith of Jesus. Do you know that orthodox jews are not allowed to read Isaiah chapter 53 under the threat of excommunication?. Who has no son has no father. That’s what Bible says. How can jewish nation represent the woman-Christ’s bride while denies that Jesus is the bridegroom?

Jesus

The Jewish nation does not represent Christ’s bride, Christ’s bride is made up of individuals from all over the world, the Jews appear as a nation before God. True, present day Israel led by zionists, do not represent that nation accepted by God, Zionism is made up of secular unbelieving Jews who think they can appropriate God’s promises made to Israel, without God…..relying on their evil schemes of control and dominance. The antichrist is going to make a peace treaty with Israel and Middle East to satisfy the arabs and Jews, after a short period of time two prophets will appear in Israel and spiritually reawaken many Jews to the reality of God. As a result Israel will break the treaty agreement with the antichrist, and war between the antichrist and Israel will ensue.

Consider this scripture in Rev : 12: [13] And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. [14] And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. [15] And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. [16] And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. [17] And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

If the woman is the Christian church, and the pope is the antichrist…..is the Catholic Church going to make war against other churches and those that have the testimony of Jesus Christ?

888mladen .

Mate let me just tell you something. You don’t take Bible study lessons from Mossad. Jews lost their status as a God’s chosen nation when Stephen the deacon was stoned AD 34, That was the end of 70 weeks period cut off from 2300 days-years prophecy in the book of Daniel Dan 9:24. In the middle of the last week AD 34 – 3.5 years = April AD 31 messiah the prince was cut of which you should have known who that was. The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, 3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. 4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. 5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: 6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. 7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. 8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. Math 22:2-8 What did Jesus mean by this in the parable:” and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.”? Who is the king who made a marriage for His son? Who is the son. Who were the murderers? Why did He call them murderers? What armies was he talking about and which city did they destroy? What happened in AD 70? Who were those who were not worthy? What did Jesus mean when he said to the jews “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate”. “your house is left unto you desolate” what did he mean by that?

Jesus

Was apostle Paul part of the Mossad? Do you consider Romans chapters 9-11 inspired by God? We just cannot take some scriptures and come to a doctrinal validation without considering other scriptures that convey something else. Israel was married to God through the Mosaic law, God put her away and divorced Israel. The Gentile Bride/Church is married to Jesus Christ, He is King of the Jews, Jews that will believe in Him at the end time…..not ungodly zionists.

During Jesus’ millennial reign He will be King of the Jews as a nation and King over the entire world.

Jesus

“”You need to understand the genesis of religious persecution and how it has been brought about. There was no persecution of other religious groups by Christians until so called Constantine’s marriage with the church. After he had secured his ascension to the throne he received a title of the Christian Emperor of the Roman Holy See. Christianity became a state sponsored religion of the roman empire and persecution began.””

I agree with your statement regarding Constantine making the church an imperial institution, however, persecution before Constantine existed, just before Constantine, Diocletian tried to eradicate the Christian movement throughout the Roman Empire. Starting with Nero and ending with Diocletian, Christians suffered severe persecutions depending on various emperors who chose to be cruel or benevolent towards the Christian movement.

888mladen .

Whoever said that has absolutely no clue what Bible based Christianity is all about. Portraying Jesus as a revolutionary is hyper deception. Whoever believes that let him read Gospels and find out why Jesus chose to be crucified rather than to become the King of the Jews. Right up to Milan edict Christ’s flowers had been persecuted by Roman authorities on religious pretext thought not all the time. There has been no historic record about uprising of Christians or their involvement in any arm struggle against Roman authorities prior to the edict. That’s how they understood the teaching of the founder of Christianity. In His conversation with Pilate a representative of Roman authority in Judea Jesus clearly stated that “His kingdom is not from this world”. Pilate himself pronounced that he had found no ground for charges brought forward by Jewish authorities against Jesus for conspiracy against Roman authorities. Then said Pilate to the chief priests and to the people, I find no fault in this man. Luke 24:3

Obama K Huntman

I understand and appreciate your honest sympathy for moral patriot rights and against lusts of overthrow and condemnation.

With that said Trump is the elite incarnate. Real Revolutionaries get trampled as we African Americans said “The Revolution will not be Televised”. In the 1960’s. Real Revolutionaries get trampled by like Ron Paul and so many others. Not this media-w*ore.

If a revolution is televised then its not a real revolution at all.

Trump and his administration are ALL but a branch of The Empire under a different name and brand.

It will take many years to get to a true “Putin” Era, possibly until 2024.

John

Okay, I was reading and decided to cut to the chase ……….. here is what I think is going on.

The way the Trump crew is operating is, that they have thought about this stuff. Things are moving with too much speed and precision for it to be spontaneous, out of the funky bag moves. Donald Trump and his administration, did a ton of homework, on a wide scale and never let it on that they did. This is what is stunning me.

I think the protests are engineered by those who lost. But, there is nothing in them to counter the move for move of the new administration. It is like they went through the garage and searched through old paint cans for available ammunition. It is Keystone Cops time with them.

Now, how does the Donald feel about this? He loves it. His staff is licking their chops as the fools arrayed against them move into firing range, with the pants pulled over their heads, day after day. They planned for this. All of the resistance is moving out in the open, no matter where it is located. Whether it is a FOX talk show host, like the one suspended, Federal employees, news media in general, movie stars, who and where, it is matters not. As they come out, he engages them in his game and they get tangled up and are being mowed down. They are not being allowed to stay in the shadows anymore. Hence, it seems like it is getting out of hand but, it is not.

Relax, stock up on refreshments. This is one hell of a show.

AMHants

Nice summary and it makes sense. I am also hoping for him to shut down the Soros funded NGOs, seize the assets of Soros and his family and then cancel his citizenship.

How many protests can Soros fund? I wonder if Hollywood will notice the lack of bums on seats, then you have the empty arenas and also the purse/wallet staying firmly shut, when the latest Hollywood/performing artist has-been, starts another political rant?

How many NGOs does Soros fund? Including various Human Rights Organisations and also not forgetting Amnesty International and BLM, http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewsubcategory.asp?id=1237

John

Hello AMHants. That is quite a list. Many years ago. I knew someone who had worked for him. The word was Soros is ‘wired’. The good news is he does have a habit of going way too far and it gets him in aces at times. He lost a billion, because he bet the wrong way on the market over the election. It also cost him a ton of money out of pocket to stage his nonsense. It’s catching up to him rapidly. Noone, NOBODY, can go about their business as normal when they have put themselves on the great radar. He is way to high profile now and that is death for the kind of sneaking around activity he has made his living on, in my opinion. All kingdoms have their time. His is passing. A good day to you.

AMHants

What he has had going for him in the past, is the fact there was no internet and very few people knew exactly what he was upto. He does not have that luxury now, as the ‘Death Row’ screams are getting louder.

No doubt, he loves the media attention. However, he reminds me of those psychotic-sociopaths, that you generally find on some crime thriller, that assume they are more intelligent than those hunting them down. They always, deliberately leave a footprint, to satisfy their own egos. Soros just, cannot help it. Why else would he inform BILD, that his aim was to take down the US, by funding black hate groups, using mental traps, for blacks to blame whites, as blacks are so easy to manipulate (change that to performing artists, females, etc, etc – the same script for all his regime changes).

Together, with him going on 60 Minutes, 20 December 1998. to brag about the greatest times of his life, back when he was a NAZI Collaborator.

However, I wonder what his backers are thinking, with regards all the attention he is sending their way and how their pet projects have been taken out thanks to the egos of Soros and the Clintons?

John

To your last question, the golden rule of survival in the world of the wild, as I have encountered it, is don’t screw the crew. They don’t like it.

AMHants

Love the last line, and I think that passed him by.

Jesus

Trump and his staff thought in great detail how every campaign promise will be implemented, now he is signing executive orders knowing exactly the latitude of his action.

888mladen .

This time around George Soros is handing out green backs instead of Victoria Nuland’s cookies.

marcusbond

Rather sensationalist article, the women were just protesting about their right to abortion, and it was world wide. I don’t think the USA is in meltdown just yet awhile :-) I couldn’t understand why he thought Flynn shouldn’t be investigated. Nobody should be above the law in the USA, that’s good, not bad. I think Trump will come to heel soon, he’s just not a politician, but Pence and the rest of his a team seem to be handling him well.

It’s what’s coming with that massive military investment…

…the ‘wipe ISIS’ from the face of the earth plan that entails what?

…next ISIS hotspot could be Indonesia, and its surrounding countries close to the South China Sea.

…and pushing back against Iran again.

Here is how it is done folks! haha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKDeyuM0-Og

AMHants

The Purple Revolution. How many would seriously love to see the US throw out/close down the Soros funded NGOs? Then freeze or seize all Soros assets, before removing his citizenship?

ORGANIZATIONS FUNDED BY GEORGE SOROS AND HIS OPEN SOCIETY FOUNDATIONS… http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewsubcategory.asp?id=1237

Jesus

Why stop at Soros assets? There are many other scoundrels on Wall Street who enriched themselves at the expense of others for the last 2-3 decades, all these riches gives them a sense of invincibility, and idea that they are untouchable regardless of what they do.

AMHants

Start with him, owing to financing so many NGO and being the front man for so many regime change scenarios.

gmatch

America is enslaved by Judea and owned by the Saudis. United Saudi Arabia. USA.

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