Russian Advances And Delays On Donbass Front Lines. Eighteenth Day Of Military Operations In Ukraine

Agree the content of some of the videos and the information they have provided is pretty darn good. Some of it has been a great resource. The forums not so much. I have been on this site reading for a couple years. Rarely do I post anything as its more of a club than an open forum. Its to bad that the forum could not match the content.

Yes, we could share posts and information there in a more organized manner and it would be easier to weed out the trolls.

An 5000 bucks each month. How much are you donating?

A cruise missile is too big and imprecise. A 9mm bullet suffices if well aimed.

My take:

Washington gangster hawks want to continue raking in money from the weapons racket while supplying NAZI’s with shoulder fired munitions in Ukraine. More broadly, DC wants to reclaim their uni-polar global domination by using Ukraine as a staging ground for NATO expansion, and attempting a regime change in Kazakhstan, Belarus, and eventually Russia. If this happened, the next target of the US would be China as openly stated in it’s official documentations the “Great Power” conflict is part of the NEOCON game plan.

My understanding is Zelenskyy and and his government is carefully set up by Washington, using AZOV as a tool of enforcing Washington’s rules, but even if Zelenskyy wasn’t afraid of Washington, he is definitely in fear of AZOV death squads who have executed the negotiators after they start making progress with Russia.

The neo-Nazi’s are insane, there is no oversight here from Southfront.

they are all retreating to Poland

While it is difficult to comment on military events without good training & information (assuming we usually don’t know much), can you explain why you think it is strange that Ukrainian forces / politicians are not surrendering compared to other conflicts, or where you thinking about the pro-Russian elections in the south/eastern half of Ukraine which might account for mass surrendering to Russia “back to the motherland, away from the insane western Nazis and their criminal USA overlords” ?

On the latter issue, South Front did provide a possible answer: 8 years of anti-Russian propaganda in Ukraine, and also the vagueness of the stated goals by Russia which may not have inspired enough confidence to openly take the Russian side, with the knowledge that the ultra-Nationalists / USA dictatorship will not return to those areas (ascension to the Russian Federation). 8 years of propaganda could have deeply affected children starting from age 12-13, who after 8 years could be adequately indoctrinated troops. Hitler took only 7 years from 1933 to start his insane war against Russia, which was also in no small part based on youth indoctrination (right?).

I can also imagine that in eastern Europe in general (which includes Russia), there are many people who live in illusions about how great materialistic life is in the USA, downplaying the corruption there. It often looks like a lot of people like to go to the richer western countries. They may be under the illusion that if they join the western side, they will eventually get rich. This is an older issue, going back to the Cold War. Secondly: will life under Moscow be better than under Kiev ? Perhaps better than under the Kiev Nazi / dictatorship, but isn’t it important to keep in mind that “tyranny” hits mainly those who disagree (discrimination, torture, execution), while most people are not politically active anyway. Living under Hitler was the best freedom had to offer, if you are a Nazi. You love that, you are set free.

A fair amount of Ukrainians may simply hope the tyranny part would fade over time, and still have hopes to join “western riches” sooner or later. Since most people live for their private wealth only, I suspect this could be quite a motivator, and was potentially the whole motivation behind the “Euro-maidan”. Isn’t it always about money ? Even for the “little people” ? Aren’t almost all humans obsessed with greed ? Bigger house, new car ? Why not this wealth in Russia, though ? Because they know the eastern European countries, just like their own, and they don’t really know the USA, so you can have illusions about what is far away. Western European Vassal States on the other hand, they are pretty rich overall. So this whole thing about where to get rich, even for the ordinary person, could be a general mood kind of thing, which shapes desires and actions broadly.

Then we could look at other conflicts and also how far these ideas of “joining western riches” might drive them. Assad didn’t surrender Syria, even though it looks hopeless when Russia came in and started destroying the American terrorist networks in the area (ISIS, etc). The situation in Ukraine is far from such a moment.

What future would Ukrainian forces / politicians think they have within Russia, as prisoners of war ? I think that many people on the Ukrainian side think and hope that sooner or later the western forces will come in through western Ukraine, and start driving Russia back toward the east. If they hold out without surrendering, they do it in the hopes that any moment they get the news that USA and its captive Nations are joining their assault. This idea can be fueled by several issues, such as: ① The USA was already infiltrating / merging with the Ukrainian forces. ② The USA plus its captive Nations is an enormous Empire which is nearing the 1 billion people, whereas China has not joined Russia in this war and Russia is therefore vastly outnumbered. This implies it would be relative peanuts for this Empire to enter the front and to start winning. ③ The overall pro-Ukraine hysteria in the west, suggests that the Ukrainian forces will eventually be helped, even to any amount they wanted to. Perhaps people rather die on the front line, than miss the opportunity to attack back with western forces and then join the “rich west” (which they think will make them rich), and then live like heroes.

I see this reason for western forces to join the war, but this isn’t so pleasant: the western and other criminal banking maniacs need World War 3. Letting Russia conquer most/all of Ukraine until the point/moment that the western financial system requires a greater war, can imply the likelihood of western forces entering Ukraine against Russia as well. This reason isn’t so pleasant though, because it will probably end in a full out nuclear exchange, and the USA will also probably be hit very hard, and Europe generally could be hit hard as well. This is not really a reason I guess, because after such a level of war, the “let’s join the rich west” is no longer a functioning motivation. The destruction is too great, and life will become a lot more brutal for everyone. Hence, while this might mean Ukraine will fight for a time with the west and they seem to win, it would still end in a “no winners” situation.

Incidentally, I think this is the whole reason for the war. It is to safe the financial system, and to give the newspapers all over the world something to write about, other than catastrophic corruption with the banks and Governments: money printing. Most/all of you seem to see this as two sides fighting. I see that too, but it is a different set. It is the Governments all together, including USA and Russia, with their central private criminal bankers and Oligarchs, organized crime, top industrialists, and the other side of the war is: humanity in general. Our ruling classes have gone to war upon all of us. They do it by Divide & Conquer, let the serfs kill each other.

Then when it is all over, they will have some sort of new Imperial plan to make themselves rich, and to make us their slaves. This is what I think is the whole reason for all these wars since 9/11 2001. USA is driving this war, but they can make other Empires into tools for them, and they also seem to be united with them in the top. Like USA was one system with Hitler, yet at the same time fighting Hitler. They seemed to be against the USSR, yet at the same time they did everything to keep it going. Things look different in the top, I guess. Everything is about control. The local population itself is always the main enemy. Those are the ones who eventually bring their bosses to the gallows, and those are the serfs which are the first to be enslaved.

Such is the way of mankind. Perhaps this way is about to end.

On one side, these seven years of useless Minsk Accords, have served to consolidate the one sided and quite extremist (nazi or similar) Ukranian ultra-nationalist discourse. All dissident voices have been murdered, imprisoned or otherwise scared into silence or exile by legal and illegal means. They were surrendering in big numbers in 2015 before Donbass forces with no or almost no Russian backing, they were absolutely demoralized back then because the rag-tag militias were smashing them to pieces and because they knew quite well (events were recent and more clear) that they were being led to slaughterhouse by a bunch of nazis and quasi-nazis against their will and common sense, and shot death by Azov Bataillon and the like if they dared to question anything.

Now the Ukrainians who have not fled the country, especially soldiers, who are generally very young and thus ignorant (they were 10 or 11 when the Maidan putsch and most of the nazi terror happened, too young to understand) are largely brainwashed by Ukrainian ultra-nationalism and imagine they are fighting the good fight, the patriotic fight, the national defense fight against “evil Russia”. Not all of course, some, especially in Russian-speaking areas, may know better but the bulk are what they have been told to be and believe what they have been told to believe.

In any case the nazi death squads (Pravy Sektor, Svoboda, Azov Bataillon and others) are watching their backs and will kill them without a second thought if they falter or question the ultra-nationalist dogma. Civilians, especially Russian-speaking ones, will also suffer that fate if they try to escape the condition of human shield they have been forced into.

As for the government: it became quite clear months after Zelensky’s win, that it was going to be ultra-Maidanist again. They have strong investment on that ideology and praxis and also their backs covered to a large extent by Poland and NATO, where they will be welcomed as “heroes” if they have to flee Ukraine (some may already be in exile but that can’t be acknowledged because it’d be demoralizing for the troops and population in general).

It’s possible that the arrest of (quite neutral) Russo-Spanish (or Russo-Basque) journalist Pablo González, accused of being a “Russian spy” by Poland, has to do with hiding what’s actually going on at the Ukro-Polish border, including arms trafficking and politicians running away in western direction. Rumors have Zelensky in either Poland or France: he’s been publishing videos that clearly belong to the past (with a deceased person) as “current” and has not been filmed outdoors since weeks ago.

Laughable Brutish propaganda!

If it is on purpose, as you claim, what aim do you think is being served ?

They are less brutal than the USA, whose war crimes were immense and largely hidden by the Western propaganda machine.

Another reason is that the USA did NOT invade Iraq in the 90s, they stopped at the Kuwait-Iraqi border. Then they bombed the country mercilessly for a whole decade, and only then, in 2003 they finally invaded it.

Also the original Iraqi Army of the First Gulf War was of around one million troops, veteran of a decade-long war with Iran… but for the greatest part made of conscripts who belonged to different ethnicity (Kurdish) or sect (Shia) than the ruling (Sunni Arab) minority. So once the mass bombings began they scattered in disarray quite easily. Infantry and even tanks may be necessary and important but, if you can’t protect them from bombings, then they cannot withstand, and the USA had all the time air supremacy.

A difference here is that most of the Ukrainian resistance is in cities, with thousands or even millions of civilian human shields, especially Russian-speaking ones. Therefore Russia and the Donbass republics must be very cautious and “surgical” in order to prevent as much as possible civilian casualties, while the USA in general did not care much about that, just look up “Fallujah”.

Polish media says well over two hundred mercs dead , and even British media is now saying “much more than officially mentioned wo far” . It is an open secret that heaps of mercs were blown to Kingdom Come. Good.

A Kalibr a day keeps the western mercenaries away.

Each time I see a note in FB about the, typically fascist, people volunteering to fight for Maidan-Ukraine, the comments are generally in the line: “good, let them go and get killed, the only good fascist is the dead fascist”.

Retard

“amerikants cannot think except by means of slogans—they identify garbage as quality. the stupidity and ignorance of amerikants has long been a topic of hilarity in Europe”. Paul Fussell

No. You may argue that they are not winning fast or decisively enough but they’ve lost nothing at all. They just cannot lose.

Are you trolls all retarded? WHOSE democratic values, Barbiedoll? Fashington’s…?

nazzi CIA idiot knows transgender strategy—kkrops would rather die than rebel against their dictatorship—almost as submissive as amerikants….”the amerikant world view is nihilism with a happy ending”. Alan ?Bloom

Russia needs to take all of Ukraine and put their noses right up against NATO. NATO is a joke and can only use proxy forces to fight Russia, so you remove the proxy forces. Without proxy forces NATO backs down because NATO is a bunch of homos, trannys, feminists and weak western men.