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On July 21, Syrian opposition activists released several photos that show fighters of Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and the Free Syrian Army (FSA) looting the empty towns of al-Fu’ah and Kafriya in eastern Idlib. Around 7,000 civilians left the two towns during the last two days, under an evacuation agreement, which was reached earlier this week.
HTS and FSA fighters reportedly broke into the abandoned houses and shops and stole everything. Furthermore, all the cars and tractors, which remained in the two towns, were stolen by the fighters.
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Over the course of the Syrian war, pro-opposition fighters have looted several areas after capturing it. The clearest example was on March 18, when Turkish-backed FSA fighters looted the northern city of Afrin in front of the Turkish military and members of the press.
On top of the looting, HTS is planning to settle hundreds of its foreign fighters and their families in al-Fu’ah and Kafriya, according to pro-HTS activists. Local sources even reported that HTS supporters want to rename the two towns in order to impose a permanent demographic change.
Moreover, the HTS-linked news network Iba’a said that a religious committee of HTS’ government destroyed all the Shiite symbols and banners inside the mosques and the houses of al-Fu’ah and Kafriya.
These events reveal the real nature of HTS, which entered Syria under the banner of al-Qaeda in early 2012 and received direct and indirect support from several regional and global powers.
These towns wil be free soon. Citizens will return after liberating it. And nusrats will die. After liberation of Daraa SAA is coming!
Please, can anyone be suprised by this? That’s the “best” outcome for any settlement taken over by “The good guys”. Let’s all be happy that there was’nt another mass killing.
let this scum bags enjoy for few moment soon this enemy of islam and mslim will be sent to hell by the ressitance its just matter of time .
The vermin shall be eliminated, let themselves humiliate themselves for a day or two.
“HTS is planning to settle hundreds of its foreign fighters and their families in al-Fu’ah and Kafriya”…Good idea! Will be more easy to send the widows and the childrens to their own countries.
also easier to bomb them into oblivion.
Theft is not very Islamic. They believe in Sharia Law, they should have their hand cut off.
They are Sunni Wahhabi Jihadis. When they did on invasion of Shia towns. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7f5549047ae3873c0a3fa0f26b044e428469394ba332d86bddb7bbb301d485ea.jpg
Well Russia can help with that. I think those nice quaint homes now occupied by headchoppers merit a nice house warming gift, and I can think of nothing warmer than a direct hit by a Kalibre Cruise Missile.
Although the result may be full dismemberment of all limbs, but you know, the Russians tend to overdeliver…
This is not unique for Syria. You can stil saw Serb owned houses in Croatia looted and burned down in many parts of Croatia, Bosina and Herzegovina, Kosovo and Metohija…
Why are you playing the jew victim card here? Wasn’t the war started over Milosevitch’s delusions about a greater Serbia which would be ethically cleansed from non serbs and would territorially expand to encompass parts of Bosnia,Croatia,Montenegro,Macedonia? it’s only natural for people to do that to their former aggressors (that doesn’t make it right but it’s understandable)
The Serb stabs you in the back while he screams out in pain I guess
What you just saying is the same what CNN propaganda did against Serbs for all these years! Shut up!
That’s not an argument,then tell me who and because of who started the war instead of screeching cnn!!! reeeee!! edit: don’t watch any mainstream media for years,I know people from Bosnia and Croatia and they have different stories from @Dušan ,very different stories
Also any comment on this map I found as advocated by Vojislav Šešelj (another war criminal)? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Greater_Serbia_in_Yugoslavia.png/1280px-Greater_Serbia_in_Yugoslavia.png Is this a CNN map? Was Vojislav Šešelj a CNN reporter?
Anyone can draw a map. It doesn’t make it legit or reliable in any way.
this map specifically was drawn up by Vojislav Šešelj,a simple google search and you would have known it’s called ( Virovitica–Karlovac–Karlobag )
This is propaganda. The bombing was before Serbia acted. Serbia was responding to both the bombing that did not have UN authorization as well as provocations by the Kosovo Liberation Front which at the time was listed as a terrorist organization by the US State Department. The Humanitarian bombing lasted four months which is a long time. Investigations after the bombing found little evidence of ethnic cleansing by the Serbs.
I’m talking about the 1991-1995 Yugoslav wars,I don’t care about Kosovo
The so called greater Serbia is not even exist that Yugoslavia they tried to keep it alive but it’s too late
so Vukovar and Srebrenica,what about them? Why did the serbs destroy those 2 towns and kill nearly everyone in them if they tried to “keep Yugoslavia together “
By the time the unfortunate Srebrenica incidence happened Bosnia had already declare independence they tried to some what a brutal infliction of damage to control that town. Vukovar happen when Croatia fighting it war for independence, they tried to inflict as much damage to the Croatian as much as they could, terrorize them, tried to force them into a situation where they would be left with nothing. And yes those are war crimes you couldn’t cover it up and forget about. And yes back then they view the Croatian and Bosnian as enemy due to they tried to declare independence and all of the war crimes the Serbs and JNA tried to do is not Justify either
Would you try to read a little bit more about recent history and quit repeating US war propaganda. At least look recent videos from World Football Cup to see Croats celebrating with Nazi songs. By the way, Croats were third in Europe with SS members during WW II. If you want to know, my family house was burned down three times since 1941 to 1995. Another by the way, Croatian born Serbs were predominant in resistance movement during WW II and suffered larger casualties than the USA, plus about million civilians killed by Croats and Muslim forces in former NDH (Independent State of Croatia installed by Nazis). Communist government of former Yugoslavia war crimes lead by Croats in the name of “brotherhood and unity”… in the end, 1.3 million Serbs who were living in what is today Croatia are reduced to 180.000. Many of them subjected to brutal assimilation. Croatian goalkeeper is a Serb, but he declares himself as a Croat. Try to go to some place in Croatia, BiH or Kosovo and speak Serbian. Not a single Croat, Muslim or Albanian get hurt in Serbia. 178.000 Serbs of Sarajevo are reduced to eight thousands (not quite sure about the number), 40.000 Serbs from Prishtina are reduced to about 200 and you are telling me about some Jew victim card!!! You’re mean or a Nazi
“see Croats celebrating with Nazi songs” – mind sharing the link for that,since you’ve been dancing around my question this whole time I wont take you for your word.
“Croats were third in Europe with SS members during WW II” – turns out this is also false (why do you keep lying,a simple google search denies your claims) Croatia didn’t even have ss units, theirs were mostly comprised of Bosnian Muslims and Germans.
“If you want to know, my family house was burned down three times since 1941 to 1995” – that’s really sad and I hope it doesn’t happen to you ever again,but that doesn’t have to do anything with my question
“Croatian born Serbs were predominant in resistance movement during WW II and suffered larger casualties” Yes,serb partisans were doing a Good job at resisting the axis members,and a small Part Nedich’s Serbia was their puppet and collaborator
“WW II and suffered larger casualties than the USA” well since you are located in Europe and were actually occupied by Germany (unlike us) you losing more manpower than USA just makes sense,we didn’t have to fight the Germans on our soil,we were sending troops to other countries,to liberate them from Nazi occupation.
“plus about million civilians killed by Croats and Muslim forces in former NDH (Independent State of Croatia installed by Nazis)” – couldn’t see the Bosnian muslims killing as many serbs as the serb chetniks even back then were killing muslims in droves. And by Croats you mean the Usthase,right? (you saying Croats inatead of Ustashe tells me a lot about you,you didn’t change much since the 90’s haven’t you?
“Communist government of former Yugoslavia war crimes lead by Croats in the name of “brotherhood and unity” – as far as I know the serbs were the dominant power in Yugoslavia not Croats. Tito was a communist so ethnicity didn’t really matter to him that much (that explains why even croatian nationalists hate him)
“in the end, 1.3 million Serbs who were living in what is today Croatia are reduced to 180.000” (this was half a true,before the war there were about 580.000 serbs living in Croatia,while 180.000 remain today) I guess those who supporter greater Serbia ran away,while those who didn’t care what Belgrade was telling them,stayed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Croatia
“of them subjected to brutal assimilation” – they can always move to Serbia or somewhere else if they don’t like it,that’s what the Croats from Voivodina did when the serbs were doing to them the same exact same thing you now accuse the Croats of doing
“Croatian goalkeeper is a Serb, but he declares himself as a Croat” – that’s cool,if he feels that way why would you be against it? What cultural ties does he has to Serbia except for him being born a serb?
“Try to go to some place in Croatia, BiH or Kosovo and speak Serbian” – Bosnian/Croatian/Serbian sound alost the same,so there would be any problems (there would be if you were to make it clear that you’re serbian) and that’s the part that gets you into trouble. People still haven’t forgot the war and the massive amount of war crimes committed by the “JNA” against their people
“Not a single Croat, Muslim or Albanian get hurt in Serbia” – lets google that.shall we,turns out that too is a lie,read this report,it’s great https://www.osce.org/eea/15018?download=true
“178.000 Serbs of Sarajevo are reduced to eight thousands” that’s sad,but considering Sarajevo was (for 3 years) surrounded by serbs,constantly bombed,starved, it makes sense for serbs to leave it after the war (serb snipers also killed more than 10.000 children as far as I’m aware,real brave army you got going there)
“40.000 Serbs from Prishtina are reduced to about 200” – didn’t you try to ethnically cleanse Kosovo from non serbs and then the world got sick and tired of you and started bombing you?
“Some claim that Belgrade unleashed Operation Horseshoe in the summer of 1998, in which hundreds of thousands of Albanians were driven from their homes “Soon after NATO started bombing Yugoslavia, Slobodan Milošević ordered that all bodies in Kosovo that could be of interest to The Hague Tribunal should be removed” Makes sense that the Albanians wouldn’t want you living in their land after what you have done to them
“are reduced to about 200 and you are telling me about some Jew victim card!!! You’re mean or a Nazi” – you’re still playing the jew card and are dancing about my original question. (not a nazi nor a meanie buddy,sorry) If serbs did suffer from all of that,then why was there urge to kill/remove anything or anyone who wasn’t perceived by serb forces as serb in the last war?
Bosnia ethic map before the war: https://gdb.rferl.org/63DFE2A5-5E38-4CF8-8FF3-4E341F114BA0_w1023_n_s.png Bosnia ethnic map after the war: https://christinebednarz.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/demobih2006a.png
So let me ask my questions and again,and hopefully this time instead of dancing around it (and talking about ww1,ww2 and the nazis) you actually answer my question,ok?
“If Serbs truly are the victims,can you then explain to me,why was this serb leader (now being tried in the Hague for war crimes) threatening the extinction of the Bosnian muslims?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Makxe0PLB_8
Map of Greater Serbia as defined by the Virovitica–Karlovac–Karlobag hypothetical boundary to the west; one of the visions of the borders of Greater Serbia as advocated by Vojislav Šešelj https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Greater_Serbia_in_Yugoslavia.png
Listen, if it is not shameful to you that European national team celebrating with Nazi songs which is not only such incident recently, like swastika on football pitch in Split or chanting “Za dom spremni!” (which is equivalent of Heil Hitler) by a Croatian football star followed by full stadium…
I am not a historian, so if well known and respected historian, Predrag Markovic, rate nations by number of SS per capita he is authority for me.
The story about family house is direct response on your remark that I should stop playing Jew victim card. I never burned someones house. I was not raised that way.
I don’t know where you find connection of Croatian born Serbs fight for survival with insignificance of Nedic’s puppet state!
“find connection of Croatian born Serbs fight for survival with insignificance of Nedic’s puppet state” – All I’m saying is the same applies to Croats as well,there were Croat Ustashas going around killing Serbs,there were Serb Chentniks going around killing Croats,and then there were Serb/Croat partisans fighting both of them
I am going to quote historian Predrag Markovic again, Chetniks never establish state apparatus to exterminate Croats or Muslims. Nedic and his regime were servants of the invader fighting communists. They were not Chetniks. Ustashas were mimic Germans in their destruction of Jews while Chetniks and partisans actions in Croatia was reaction on German occupation and defense against Nazi regime in Zagreb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsQ-eSveN6A
Three key figures in former Yugoslavia were Tito, Edvard Kardelj and Vladimir Bakaric
With someone with such knowledge about former Yugoslavia I was expecting you to know that NDH was set up to exterminate, romanize or expel orthodox population. Talking about 1.3 million it was in 1936. I forgot to write about it.
I know that,they weren’t called clero-fascists for a reason. But again,what does that have to do with my question,why do you still keep avoiding it?
NATO is the most dangerous terrorist mob in the world, able to put a lot of garbage in your head. You’re referring on documents issued by aggressors, invaders and murderers. What JNA did… not enough to carry out it’s constitutional duty.
found this video today,mind to explain several things for me here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOQKF25loUc
the years is 1989,this was supposed to be a communist government,so why are the serbs singing this songs at the beginning of the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avkzzUNdcck&lc=z12jvfcptyzqgl0mu22jclehytyaezwck.1531823165969279 didn’t Tito ban all forms of nationalism (including the serb one?) so why are they singing such songs under a communist government who supposedly wasn’t nationalist? (don’t screech about 1389,I know everything about that battle,I want to know why they sang that song in that moment)
Why are supposed communists who are supposed to keep the “brotherhood and unity” alive,why are they celebrating nationalist holidays? Why is he talking about how serbia reinstated it’s cultural ties to the past and how they’re not going to be ashamed of it anymore (which is fine by me,but what do you think how the Croats,Bosniaks,Albanians reacted upon hearing this? Serbs were on their land and they were getting swept up by this ultra nationalism) Wouldn’t you agree that the war de facto started with this speech of Milosevitch?
Serbia is today the only multinational country in former Yugoslavia. 26 nations are living in Serbia. Do I have to remind you that a Hungarian was in the team that shot down F-117. Recently, Croatian Parliament legalizes stealing of 800.000 cadaster parcels belonging to Serbs. Concerning Monte Negro, 30 per cent of its population are Serbs, and about the same number of Montenegrans are living in Serbia. Their sportsmen are choosing to play for Serbia, not Montenegro, etc, etc. Grater Serbia was never official policy of Serbia…
“Serbia is today the only multinational country in former Yugoslavia” – not true. A simple google search about ex Yugoslavia’s ethnic groups disproves your claim. “26 nations are living in Serbia” – is that the reason serbs are always angry and are shouting that they want to to kill foreigners? “Do I have to remind you that a Hungarian was in the team that shot down F-117” – don’t know what you’re talking about there buddy “Recently, Croatian Parliament legalizes stealing of 800.000 cadaster parcels belonging to Serbs” – how do they belong to serbia? were they located in Croatian land after the legalization? “Concerning Monte Negro, 30 per cent of its population are Serbs, and about the same number of Montenegrans are living in Serbia” – this is simply not true (again,just google it) “Grater Serbia was never official policy of Serbia” – ah ok, then stop avoiding my question and answer it :
“If Serbs truly are the victims,can you then explain to me,why was this serb leader (now being tried in the Hague for war crimes) threatening the extinction of the Bosnian muslims?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Makxe0PLB_8
Map of Greater Serbia as defined by the Virovitica–Karlovac–Karlobag hypothetical boundary to the west; one of the visions of the borders of Greater Serbia as advocated by Vojislav Šešelj.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Greater_Serbia_in_Yugoslavia.png
Similar scenario is on the way in today Ukraine. “Democracy” is supporting rise of Nazis. You’re wearing that helmet as a sign of that German invention?
we’re not talking about Ukraine,stop avoiding the question
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all sides loot in this war, the only thing different is, the rebel fraction seems to be involved ”now” in gunfight over the loot
Well the important thing is that the people especially the civilians are evacuated and safe, I know its terrible to lose your home and be forced out of the place you grew up, but better that and your family alive, than the worst alternative.
This is common in illiterate politicians like Salman of Saudi Arabia who has illegally transferred millions of Saudi Riyals to US, UK and France and have build their assets there because they know that one day Saudi nation will kick them out.
If there are no civilians left then obliterate the towns.
It’s Syria, of course everyone’s taking the opportunity to loot. …. Remember that time when Russian paramilitaries in Damascus found NDF officers running a litteral black market selling even furniture and appliances right under their noses? Recall when Afrin was sacked? Recall Law #10? Remember Kurdish pressgangs? …. It’s easy for these “pro-opposition” activists to prove that mass looting is going on, all they have to do is turn off the camera when among friends or they find something unguarded.
Again, how much more will turkey demand ? When will Russia demand something from turkey?
Already, turkey is being targeted for western sanctions, the likes of which will destroy turkey s economy and send them into civil war.
There is nothing turkey can do about it without Russia’s help. But they haven’t been useful to Russia at all.
Oh yes, indeed they have. Check more. How about one thing, which isn’t all important. They’ve attacked Ypg, American pland D, or E. As long as Western msm portrait Turkey as “non-democratic”, and all that mess, that’s very good sign. If you pardon my French.