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UPDATED 2 (13.12.2020): Armenian sources claim that while Azerbaijani troops entered Khtsaberd, the village of Khin Taher in fact remained in the hands of the Armenians. Situation in the area remains tense despite the reported involvement of Russian negotiators as a part of the effort to de-escalate the issue.
The Armenian Defense Ministry confirms that 6 of its fighters were injured in the December 12 clashes. Yerevan claims that Azerbaijani forces also suffered casualties.
UPDATE: According to pro-Armenian sources, Khtsaberd and Khin Taher were already captured by Azerbaijan. Baku accused the Armenians of the escalation.
President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev already promised to crush the Armenians with “an iron fist” in the event of the further escalation:
“I was informed that yesterday some terrorist acts were committed either by Armenian militants or by the remnants of the so-called “Armenian army”. Of course, this causes concern. I think that Armenia should not try to start over. Two days ago, at the military parade dedicated to our victory, I said that if the Armenian fascism rises again, we will crush it with an iron fist.”
Meanwhile, the Azerbaijani side revealed that the joint Turkish-Russian center to monitor the ceasefire will be located in Agdam District.
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On December 12, forces of Azerbaijan resumed offensive operations in the contested Nagorno-Karabakh region, where the Armenians and Baku reached a ceasefire just a month ago.
According to the Armenian Defense Ministry, Azerbaijani forces have been advancing on the villages of Khtsaberd and Khin Taher. These villages, located south of the Lachin corridor, remained in the hands of the Armenians following the transfer of several districts to Baku as a part of the ceasefire deal.
This became the first ceasefire violation since November 10, when it entered force. The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed the incident in an official statement.
It seems that the new escalation is a result of actions of Armenian forces that just refused to withdraw from these two villages in violation of the agreement with Azerbaijan. The aforementioned villages were located in a de-facto enticement by Azerbaijani forces.
The situation is developing.
“Violation of the agreement” my ass. Hadrut was not part of the areas Armenia had to surrender to Azerbaijan. On that front, both sides agreed to stop where they were so of course Armenians refused to withdraw from the area.
Hadrut is a part that Armenia have to give to AZ like others in West that AZ never retake….anyway it will be difficult a peaceful postwar…among 3 main reason the humilliate parade in Baku..the continue videos of executions of Armenians….and to force Pashinyan( a pro western agent) to resign..
This will test how much the Russian peacekeepers intends to force the peace agreement, if they concede an inch to the Azeri,The war will start again.
Agree. That is only (and obvious ) option Azeri retards will have to go back.
And if it is not respected, what will happen then:))))???
Shut up kid ! I am not in mood to indulge you with my answers any more. Have no interest to have any conversation with you
why respond then?:)))
How about this: Russia installs multilayer air defense and Armenians and Azeris make round 2. This way we see if Russian AA are good of anything and see the real value of both Azebaijan and Armenian soldiers on the ground?
How about you put US c o c k in your mouth instead of talking, because your mouth are only built for that obviously
You need a girlfriend :)
ahahah, savage
That would be a good idea. It should clear a lot of doubt about the efficacy of Russian AA systems against Turkish drones. If Azerbaijan is still able to inflict sever losses on Armenian forces, then there can be no further argument about the matter. But I don’t think Russia would take the chance to deploy layered AA defense to enforce the ceasefire, knowing that hostilities might resume between Azerbaijan and Armenia and should the no-fly zone fail to prevent drone operation, that’d be a scandal for the Russian defense industry.
Sorry but TB2 and Harop failed to destroy a single TOR M2 system that was deployed in Martuni…and that system 1º shot down 2 TB2 and 6 Harop which Debris have posted in Photos… 2º only could be destroyed when was hided in a Grain…3º Russian military dont need to deploy AD..just send MIG 29 to fly above NK and shot down drones…4º In case of any attacks vs MIG 29…whe already have seen how a Turkish post was smashed after Turkish fired missile vs SU 24 and how an entire Turkish AD was destroyed in Al Wattiya by MIG 29 M that Russia had sent days before from Syria after the capture and parade of one Pantsir system.
TB2 and Harop also failed to destroy S400:))))
Your Armenian buddies lost the war. Are you through mourning them?
I didnt write that Armenia won the war..I said that a single TOR M2 was the system that shot down most of all drones intercepted during NK..
You didn’t understand my comment. I was indirectly implying that Armenia lost despite wielding Russian air defenses.
Kinda yeah
Obvious Azerbaijani escalation. The Armenian army in NK and in Armenia is in a so desperate situation that makes it impossible for them to even think of a strike against the Azerbaijan army… Even more impossible to launch it… O.K, we all know that Armenians are incompetent in fighting but i think they are not suicidal.
That incompetent army killed 3000 AZ soldiers ( included more than 200 terrorist)…
The Azerbaijani Army was 10000 strong. If they had realy killed 3000 AZ soldiers, they would have won. The Armenians don’t know how to fight and they don’t want to realy fight! This is a fact. Armenians were and continue to be a coward and cunning people, who refuse to fight for their rights. They always want to make others, like Russia for example, to fight for them, prefixing their misfortunes of the past as a plea. They think that the world is obliged to defend them because, 100 years ago, they were genocided.
AZ official sources told that 2783 AZ soldiers have been killed and 100 more still missing…while pro oposition sources in Syria have told that at least 200 syrians have been killed in NK!…AZ won the war because used the air force and drones..while NK didnt use the air force and had useless and old air defense!
” The Armenians don’t know how to fight and they don’t want to realy fight! ”
The only ones who do not want to fight are the Russians. !!!!! The Armenians fought hard and even hard, regardless of whether they lost, because everyone (Russia, USA, Israel, Iran, etc.) was on the side of the Turko-Azeris. Let me remind you here … that the Turks have beaten you many times … but you are CHICKENS and you will not fight….Turkey shoots down Russia’s Sukhoi SU-24 near Syrian BorderRussia’s problem is not Armenia … but TURKEY. The Turks fuck you, and you do absolutely nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDichCnmfk8
I understand that for you, the Armenian way of fighting in this war seems heroic to you, because you are a Greek, and Greeks are even more coward than Armenians. But what you have in mind, is not what fighting a war really means. This is not the way real men and real fighters fight. Real men, fight! Real men, don’t try to manipulate others by acting like innocent, weak,and wronged by history pussies, to fight for them. Real men, don’t sit in their couches blaming others for their misfortune.
” because you are a Greek, and Greeks are even more coward than Armenians.” THE FACTS show that those who are cowards are the Russians. Let us see the same fact how the Greeks dealt with it and how the Russians.
1-Greece Turkey conflict.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAuD2nDd2mA
2- and Russia USS conflict….CHICKENS. KO KO KOKOKO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TknYYpD1ZzM
” Real men, don’t sit in their couches blaming others for their misfortune.”
3-We did not kill your ambassador … the Turks did it !!! Did you do anything about it ?? Absolutely nothing … CHICKENS
Russian Ambassador to Turkey Shot Dead in Ankara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVhTjYuhKBg
Chicken Song.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msSc7Mv0QHY
I think that,the Turks and the Azeris have come to terms with Armenian opposition politicians and figures and now they try to escalate the situation so to push mr.”the basement” to resign. Maybe Erdogan’s statement that if Armenia changes it’s government there would be a chance for cooperation and peace in the region, means something after all…
“Maybe Erdogan’s statement that if Armenia changes it’s government there would be a chance for cooperation” ?!? What cooperation?! Cooperation about what? Any challenge to pace agreement is challenge to Russia only. And it is Erdogan only who has to gain with any kind of conflict re-starting. You talk about “Turks and the Azeris have come to terms with Armenian opposition ” like it is up to them to decide what will happen in N-Karabakh. Like this is some kind of game? And what the h e l l is Russia there for? A passive pathetic observer at mercy of Erdogan and other clowns?!! You must be dreaming !
And how will Russia respond to this challenge Ms. Vanga?
And who is to challenge Russia peace agreement? Azeri’s, Turks, Pashiniyan? Or some ignorant and arrogant teenager like you? There is nobody there to directly challenge Russian authority for the moment. So no need to apply measures of discipline against anybody yet.
Absolutely!!! If anyone dares to do anything 1960 T800 soldiers will show their place. They will hold an airport preventing brit choppers from landing. then get a message loud and clear leaving the area at the speed of light:)))
Now, there’s a 5 billion bribe allegation against Pashinyan. This is treason if true.
If you look at the map, the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh Republic is in purple, and according to the deal, the orange parts should go back to Azerbaijan. Had Azerbaijan been dumb enough to attack in the purple zone (NK Republic), then the Russian peacekeepers and the NK Republic would have responded to it.
Deal-wise, Azerbaijan has the right to respond to Armenian forces in the orange zones (not to be confused with NK Republic forces).
And I don’t understand why that Pashinyan’s Armenian soldiers are involved in this, they should not be a party to the conflict. All I see is an instigator who’s trying to go out with a “bang” before he resigns, acting as a sore loser. Armenian forces should leave the orange zones that are supposed to go back to Azerbaijan, and leave the independent NK Republic alone.
If you look at the map in the article, the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh Republic are in purple, and according to the deal, the orange parts should go back to Azerbaijan. Had Azerbaijan been dumb enough to attack in the purple zone (NK Republic), then the Russian peacekeepers and the NK Republic would have responded to it.
Deal-wise, Azerbaijan has the right to respond to Armenian forces in the orange & yellow zones (not to be confused with NK Republic forces in the purple zones).
And I don’t understand why that Pashinyan’s Armenian soldiers are involved in this, they should not be a party to the conflict. All I see is an instigator who’s trying to go out with a “bang” before he resigns, acting as a sore loser. Armenian forces should leave the orange & yellow zones that are supposed to go back to Azerbaijan, and leave the independent NK Republic alone.
Some popular translated comments I read on Russian social media that can clarify things:
• “There should be no Armenian troops in Hadrut, they were driven out of there back in October, and according to the terms of the armistice, the entire Hadrut region should be under the control of Azerbaijan. Remnants of the broken Armenian units could be hiding there, but that is another question.”
• “Some absurdity with the statement of Yerevan. Russia claims that these villages are not included in the temporary area of responsibility of the Russian peacekeepers. This means that this is a territory that has completely come under the control of Azerbaijan. Under the terms of the trilateral agreement, all illegal armed groups were to be withdrawn to Armenia.”
I found another accurate map here that describes the situation, and this map is from December 2019. The Russian-brokered deal didn’t give any new lands to Armenia or Azerbaijan, the NK Republic earned the most in the end. It’s sovereignty and Russian protection ?.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/67ddbbf6cd0ab2295edf752f08ef5c298de75c6efa9e8757904912ddf1990261.jpg
Neither Russia nor Azerbaijan recognize any NK Republic independent of Azerbaijan. Putin stated that all of NK belongs to Azerbaijan. Russians are only extending the Armenians’ agony and preempting international criticism by imposing a 5-year-long truce. When that’s over, the Russian peacekeepers will leave and the Azeris will terrorize and kill the remaining Armenians and take over northern NK as well. (Russian peacekeepers are obligated to leave if both the Armenians and the Azeris do not want them. It’s in the agreement. The Turks of course do not want the Russians to stay. In fact now they want Yerevan as well. Thanks Putin the Jew.)
“then the Russian peacekeepers and the NK Republic would have responded to it” I do not agree with you on this. Peace keepers are only 2000 soldiers and their job is to defend themselves only (not to engage in fire fight with any aggressor above all not with “help” of local Armenians) In the case of direct aggression on Russian peace keepers they will report that immediately to their command and nearby air-base in Armenia (most probably will send MI-29 to intervene immediately) All sides of course have right to “respond” in self defense ONLY if aggressed by the other side.
Also…”Pashinyan’s Armenian soldiers are involved in this” because pro Western b a s t a r d Pashinyan doesn’t respect his own agreement he had agreed and accepted. Armenia should be punished for doing that.
It is something else that on this site they have significant discussion about the role of the Orthodox Church in the situation in the Ukraine. I do hope that you find a manner in which to contextualize what you are reporting on here relative to what was deemed to be an appropriate manner in which to view the situation in the Ukraine.