On October 1, the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan released two videos of recent drone strikes on Armenian troops in the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh.
The first video shows an aerial attack on an Armenian artillery position. Four D-30 122 mm howitzer were destroyed by Azerbaijani combat drones. Ammunition stored in the position also exploded as a result of the strikes.
The second video shows drone strikes on two Armenian 9K33 Osa air-defense systems. One of the two systems was clearly active.
The Soviet 9K33 Osa is a low-altitude, short-range air-defense system with a top range of 15 km only. The Azerbaijani military has destroyed many air-defense systems of this type since the begging of its attack on Nagorno-Karabakh on September 27.
The strikes were carried out with Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 combat drones. last June, Azerbaijan announced the accusation of several systems of this type.
Armenian air-defense units in Nagorno-Karabakh appear to be overwhelmed by the Azerbaijani military’s advanced aerial capabilities. Baku’s forces are commanding their aerial operations over the region with support from Turkey, according to Yerevan.
Those drones come in very close, should be easy prey for equipped and competent AA…
Osa SAM is very old unfortunately, they weren’t designed with small drones in mind. Not to mention modern jamming equipment used by the Turkish interlopers.
They need modern Pantsir and TOR batteries, which have shot down dozens of these same drones in Syria and Libya. Although the latter lost 10 of them due to incompetent strategy.
Why the Armenians haven’t been using their Su-30SM’s is a mystery however.
Su-30SM is an air dominance jet. You use it when you want to annihilate your enemy. I think it is superfluous to say that their use would mean escalating the conflict.
However, yesterday evening there were reports on twitter about some armenian jets flying around.
Funny to see the Armenian soldiers running away with the approaching of the drones. But they can’t move the tanks and artillery pieces. Too bad.
Yes good spot. Drone vs WW1 Artillery, outcome is clear, smart thing to do is run to fight another day, the equipment can be replaced.
Armenia has not been doing its military intelligence, or too poor or lead astray by its new ‘friends’. So now its forces are vulnerable. As namulit emperor starts this post, there is equipment today to counter drones and then they are slow low flying easy target. but maybe too late for Ng-Kh now.
Sorry, the first video is a fake. Look at 0:41, the drone becomes two drones!!!
what?its a historical shot..tb2 and orbital1k at the same time.. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3853e2154848b59dc13ea008a6223d4bbb005044006d2f8d4f54d8078f575fdf.jpg
Nope. Watch. There is ghosting in the image. The same UAV is seen, in a frame, in two different positions. This means someone has added the explosion effect to the original image.
Maybe Azeris also bought from the Zioterrorists some CGI equipment and software of the same kind that makes terrorist Ziojews look like “victims and heros” in Hollywood shit.
hahahahah..ı have a bad feeling that you are greek….
And you mean the video producers are so amateurish at their craft that they didn’t notice this obvious defect that’ll give their credibility away? They could easily have removed it
They destroyed two pieces of the artillery… LOL.
Why didnt armenia buy some pantsirs or modern chinese anti aircrafts systems ???
The economy of Armenia coudnt aford it, i think? Also political unstability.
Hmm, loks thah Armenia is in nead of some ofesive drons as well. They will lose all fire power. They nead drons to bomb Azeris only then Azeris will be prepar for negotiation. But that is only posible if Rusia helps, i doubt that Rusia will help becaus Armenian started lickin US as and i think that Putin didnt like it.
I don’t literally know how anybody can destroy D22 howitzer without putting any explosive in its barrel.
Using photoshop. Watch at 0:41. Typical artifact of image manipulation.
There’s too much proof for any claim of Photoshop to make sense.
Photoshop is good for image manipulation, the only problem I see is these are videos, not images.
Thanks, yes that drone flashing on/off in middle top left quadrant. a reminder to be wary of what u read or see.
Also at 0:55, why crosshairs target way to left of explosion?
At 0:55 we see that turks don’t know how to build a good particles simulation with Unity :D
Ammunation left nearby?
The barrel and breach might not be damaged, but the gun is going to be fairly useless if its recoil cylinder is blown off and one of its stabilizer legs is missing. Hard to aim at anything with the gun resting on its side and the layers optics and assorted aiming gizmos and gears blown to pieces. You might be able to rig up a new lanyard and send a shell near horizontal a few hundred meters downrange. Very effective at knee-cap shorter enemy infantry. Considering the D22’s rather energetic muzzle brake and missing recoil cylinder, you would want a good 200m or so lanyard to avoid the lethal 5m, two tonne spinning barrel of death. On the plus side, it would terrify any approaching enemy infantry that escaped knee-capping..
Putin prioritized “business and partnership” with the globalist Ziocorporate terrorists to develop Russia in the post-WW2 financialist model imposed by the US/EU, and the result is that Turkey is now actually freer, as they can play both NATO and Russia, to act like a wolrd power than Russia will ever be able to if things continue as they go. The NK issue has been allowed to go on and on by Russia, who’s neither willing/capable to negotiate with Turks/Azeris a partition or some other compromise or otherwise back Armenia in an all-out war.
The whole thing is a ridiculous geopolitical circus at this point.
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That’s a perfect metaphor for the Putin “bear” performing to try to please all audiences from Washington to Ankara.
Nobody cares about your metaphors! ROFL https://media2.giphy.com/media/ZikNgxDdVJCHS/giphy.gif
Don’t be such a fucktard, you’re the one that posted it after all.
If you were Putin. How would you handle a problem like Armenia under the current color revolution administration?
Hilarious loaded question. Do I get to have all of Putin’s economic, political and military advisors to answer that?
That’s a dodge, you didn’t answer the question. Show us your Rambo plan sandbox commander of how Russia should deal with Armenia. So that we can all laugh at your stupidity.
You can comment on the Bear playing guitar video apparent allegory of Putin, so that gives you the expertise to reply to RichardD question, which in view of the political leadership of Armenia the last few years is relevant to the this conflict and who is going to support or not both sides.
So why he let the color revolution in Armenia on the first place??!!
It was essentially non violent. There’s less justification to intervene. It was ostensibly an elected transition by parliamentary rather than popular vote. Short of military intervention or political assassination. There wasn’t a lot that Putin could do.
Putin is prioritizing Russia. Pashinyan is Soros’ bitch. Why Russia should go to war for Soros?
This circus is needed to force small countries with grandeur complex, that they need US, Russia or China to survive.
Armenia didn’t understand that they exist only because Russia has protected them. Yet, the spit in the face of Russia, organizing a color revolution in 2018 and subsequent anti-russian maneuvers ( like banning russian tv channels, russian schools, etc… ). They are reaping what they have sowed.
Nobody prioritising the post-WW2 “business and partnership” model designed by the global Ziocorporate terrorists is aiming at sovereignty but at benefiting certain interest groups first and foremost. Russia and China do have a more nationalistic nuance, but that’s about it. They’re trying to preserve and somewhat modified version of the post-WW2 world order, and it is a joke to think that selling cheap gas to the likes of Germany/EU or Turks, thus creating dependence on them, not to mention the incessant attraction of “foreign investment”, is “prioristising” your own country when it’s obviously the so-called “free market” calling the shots.
In case you haven’t noticed, the zioblock “free market” unless you’ve Russia, Venezuela, Turkey, N Korea, Iran, etc.. Is prioritizing economic suicide.
Venezuela and Iran can’t even dream of realising a true alternative to the post-WW2 system despite possibly having the natural resources needed to fuel such possibility. The US$ is pretty much the official currency in Venezuela for example, as they have no chance of having a sovereign currency as things are.
China and Russia would like to modify the Ziocorporate terrorist system so it accepts rubles and yuan, but that’s no fundamental change, that’s just expanding business prospects with them.
That’s a dodge, the comment was about the zioblock committing economic suicide.
What economic suicide? So far the US/EU have been accomodating the Russia/China alternative, even if they appear to be doing so reluctantly.
” Is prioritizing economic suicide. ”
Or are they prioritizing ” The Great Reset ” ?
This economic suicide. Much of the zioblock is an economic basket case.
https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2020/09/10/Photos/ZQ/MW-IO250_jobles_20200910131948_ZQ.jpg?uuid=d424771c-f389-11ea-ad81-9c8e992d421e
Right now the economic suicide is what’s happening, where that plays into plans for a “great reset” that hasn’t happened, other than destroying economies remains to be seen.
Sadly, countries’ ruling classes are made of special interests of particular groups. Putin needs the oligarchs. Who was that imported western technologies, western know-how into Russia? The connections the oligarchs have with their western counterparts, is something is Russia needs to exist. No one can be alone and prosper in the modern world. Not even China!
Linking everything to a zionist cabal, that rules every ant on the planet with its invisible threads, is utterly childish.
There are groups. And they are at war. And you can see it because of the intensification of military confrontations.
Think about mafia. When they are in agreement, you see no people killed on the streets. When they have disagreements, lead starts to fly.
If Putin was what you claim he wouldn’t have done Syria and got sanctioned and vilified. It’s the zioblock going down the tubes, not Russia and China.
The globalist terrorist Ziocorporatists can sell you Koolaid in many, many different flavors. They quite literally developed China with investment and tech transfers, and it is pretty obvious, at least so far, that China is simply intending to modify the globalist system to accept certain Chinese characteristics in it.
That’s a dodge. Try addressing the comment, not evading it.
No dodge at all, that’s the thing, you also believe that a slight modification of the current system is the answer. Now that is the dodge.
That’s a lie, the comment was about Putin doing the exact opposite of what the zioblock wanted. You completely ignored it.
You’re a bad liar. The way Syria is partitioned today looks almost exactly like the maps of Syria the Pentagon’s think tanks were producing in 2013 and 2014. An country like Russia can’t be subdued by tame sanctions like those. They would’ve been kicked out of SWIFT, the IMF/BIS if the global Zioterrorists would’ve really wanted to try to ruin Russia.
Thanks, I have been telling that for 5 years about Syria, Israel have won big time,
Then you’re obviously very stupid and hate truth. https://southfront.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/23feb_Syria–1024×476.jpg
You’re making false accusations, as liars like you frequently do when their lies are called out. If you disagree, then copy and paste what I wrote and explain how it is a lie. You can’t so you won’t.
Now that you’ve answered the question. I have something on topic to reply to. Please provide the Pentagon’s think tanks maps from 2013 and 2014 that you’re referencing so that they can be considered for this debate. Someone with your growing credibility deficit needs to provide proof that you’re not lying.
I don’t know what maps you’re talking about. The real maps from 2015 to 2020 show that Russia is winning the Syrian war:
https://southfront.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/23feb_Syria–1024×476.jpg
Humm every action has a reaction. How do you think other countries would have reacted, after saying the zios kicking Russia out of the swift? It would have been a very bad PR stunt for the zionist financial system.
China already has a interbank settling system and a “world bank”. You sign a bunch of forms and you are in. The zios must be very cautious about what they do, because it will backfire very hard.
Nonetheless I see them going nuts. Navalny, Guaido, Lukashenko, wars here and there. Their actions don’t look smart.
Judaism is a criminally insane ideology. They rape 1,000 children worldwide every week. A lot of it’s adherents in the Jew world order are criminally insane. That’s why things are as messed up as they are. Judaism and Israel need to go.
everything built on false gods is insane
after all, they create religions just to have a mean to enslave their fellow human beings
Some use religion for that. My view is that there’s probably an ET/ED component to religion based in natural and universal law that is designed to assist planet bound developing species like ours with positive ethics and morality. Assuming that it’s from positives. If it’s from negatives, then it’s a problem. And even if it’s from positives. Malevolent humans can ruin it.
” If Putin was what you claim he wouldn’t have done Syria and got sanctioned and vilified ”
Putin didnt get sanctioned, Russia got sanctioned and villified. Putin will leave one day soon. Russia will remain. There’s a clue in there for you.
You’re engaging in semantics. The results of Putin’s administrative actions were sanctions. He did one thing and got another in response. Whether they were against him personally or the Russian government is immaterial to the topic of the debate.
We’ll see after he retires. If we make it that far. Either way, where are his bank accounts again ?
You’re trying to obfuscate the topic of Putin being a Jew puppet allegations and doing Syria and getting sanctioned doesn’t add up.
It does if Russia and its people are the intended ” victims “.
More obfuscation. What does that have to do with the fact that the Putin being a Jew puppet allegations and doing Syria and getting sanctioned doesn’t add up?
The UN already made a decison on this and Russia agreed since its in the UNSC. Also, Turkey is not playing NATO, they are NATO.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1311713825448767497
Bulls eye ?
Just one?
Just one video yeah. Many more drones and even more turko-jihadis on the way to meet their virgin BBAfroC0ck.
Many more drones destroyed, but just one video? LOL
There’s some evidence of more drones destroyed, I think I’ve counted around four total, so yeah that proves your point
SA-8 are very old SAM System… Syrian SA-11 and SA-22 stop attack from this Turk drones.
russian air defenses are worthless they should go to france and get better sams
Its not the SAMs but the operators. Russian SAMs are the best on the planet. Ask Russia or Vietnam how to use them the correct way…
Looks like the Turkish drones are better than Russian SAMs
Not really. 100 drones lost vs 3 short range SAMs.
Except you cannot prove it but for some random claim by the Armenian government which SF itself has many times condemned as fake news. They should provide videos like the Azerbaijanis do. After all, the NK is still in their control, so taking a video of some destroyed drones should’t be difficult. They don’t have to take a video of each downed drone. Just like up to ten or more since they are claiming shooting down a 100 drones.
They showed multiple crashed drones each day. Lets not forget its a shooting war, they have better things to do than go out for photo shoots with crashed drones…while projectiles are flying left and right. Proof is that Azeris havent made big advancements, which means they dont control the airspace. Still I think Armenia is holding itself back to olay the victim card to force Russia, U.S. and France to help them.
Maybe you’re right. We’ll know for sure when the dust settles
Still Armenia is holding back, playing the victim card. They could do a lot better.
%100 better…
It’s unacceptable that the operators in three theaters of war all do not know how to operate these systems despite been trained by the Russians themselves: Syria, Libya, and now Armenia. It seems no country can effectively operate Russian SAMs except the Russians themselves. It’s good for Turkey to expose the weaknesses of these Russian systems so countries lining up to acquire them know what exactly they are buying I can’t wait to see the S-400 engaging a combat drone in real life scenario. With the Chinese wielding drones of 10,000km range, if sophisticated drones can overwhelm Russia’s SAMs, then Turkey had also better re-assess its batch of S400 SAMs and seek domestically produced ones that are more effective against drones.
Based on all the videos published so far, and watching what happened in the other countries in detail, I would say Turks are trying to overwhelm the defenses. It is not that Armenia nor Artsakh are not shooting down lots, it is that they cant get them all. I was foreseeing this, and think it is an important lesson that all countries should learn from. Drones, UAVs, and eventually ones with AI are the real future. Armenians have some, and some decent air defense systems, its not operating that is the problem, we are seeing an evolution in how warfare is waged.
That’s a good point. We have seen quite a few photos and videos of downed drones and not much in the way of territorial changes.
I recall Israel using the same strategy against Syria recently, just spam missiles until the SAM’s run out of ammo or one missile gets through.
Stop writing nonsense. S-400 arent anti drone systems. Pantsirs are but any system can be overwhelmed. A whole out comprehensive defense needs a combinations of A/A systems. From radar guided CIWS , to electronic warfare , to radar guided machine guns, to lazers etc etc etc.
Well, when Russia was advertising and selling these systems, they didn’t inform their buyers that for the systems to be effective, the buyer must set up a layered AA system.
It has nothing to do with either.Those systems are made for slow moving big targets with big radiation emissions not fast moving projectiles or tiny drones with little emission.
You couldnt be more wrong. Proof…see last hot news on this site. Better luck next time…
That’s good quality proof.
[Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/x6g0DlH.png)
All fake.
The turkazerbaijanisis scum says its fake , so it must be fake. Yeah, sure.
As a result of retaliation, Azerbajiani troops managed to liberate the territories previously occupied by Armenia: Garakhanbeyli, Garvend, Kend Horadiz, Yukhari, Ashagi Abdulrahmanli villages (Fuzuli district), Boyuk Marjanli, and Nuzgar villages (Jabrayil district). Read the full report at: https://menafn.com/1100887226/Azerbaijan-showcases-Armenias-military-equipment-captured-in-Fuzuli-PHOTO
For those who keep saying Azerbaijan is making no progress despite destroying plenty of Armenian war machines.
Progress? Those are deserted settlement on the low lands with out any Armenian military presence less than 0.1%of the Area of Karabakh. That’s not progress, that’s idiocy. Soldiers stationed there are right in the mouth of the meat grinder. Small suicide drones with a km range, like the ones Armenia are now producing, can take them out.
what kind of drone is that at 0:40 ?
Sorosz-installed Armenian PM seems to be enjoying the rich harvest of his new associations.
I think they should send him to the front to reap his foolishness. Unfortunatly others has to die for the foolishness of politicians. This closing of schools.. And banning tv stations of culturally bonded people is absorb
https://caucasus.liveuamap.com/
PM Pashinyan: 4th Azerbaijani UAV was also destroyed
That is only probing. More to come to you…. Bombs dropping.
You ll never get Nagorno Karabah. Never-Ever. More and more Armenians return home from all around the glob. They will fight and die if they have to for their homes. Your scumy mercenary turkisis jihadies will be running again like they run from Syria and they run from Libya. Thats why they cant stay in one place more than one month, they are scared sh1tless. Like little chickens.
Thats guide artillery Krasnopol.. small drones flying high just point the target with the laser to guide the projectile!…TB2 are not flying beside is an easy target for 9K33 OSA system..also Azerbajan are using massive Israeli suicide drones..thats why Armenia have request ambassador in Tel Aviv!
We are going to send them another shipment, we need Azerbaijan on our side. As I’ve already written, it’s not against Armenia it’s just a cooperation against Iran.
Armenia has recall its ambasador in Israel…and Iran dont fear neither Israel nor Turkey and Azerbajan…they have shot down 2 Israeli made drones that were flying near Iran border…
Azerbaijan probably has 100’s of these cheap drones, and more coming, than any teenager trained on play station can fly. So a few lost is nothing.
Armenia needs to strike the platforms from where these drones come from; the drone controllers, the air fields, the supply routes, with Iskander, whatever. This maybe difficult as looks like these drones can take off from anywhere and be controlled by one person anywhere,so are totally dispersed.
Maybe the drones are already autonomous with AI so once airborne are independent? This conflict is a perfect testing environment for such AI autonomous tech and Israel is a military technology world leader so will learn a lot.
thats drone are guide by GPS direct to where artillery and tanks are deployed.
Typical filthy dirty disgusting jewsnakes!
So cynically with no sense of dignity or honour you are telling us that its ok to kill the Armenians because of IRAN next door… This is why the world hates jews! The root of all evil !
Fake Jews.
The vast majority of genetic Canaanite Hebrew Jews never left Palestine, they voluntarily converted to Christianity many of whom were then were forced to convert to Islam. Until they essentially went extinct in the 1,500s. 99% of Israelis are immigrants that are genetically where they immigrated from, not Palestine. They’re ideological Jews, not genetic Canaanite Hebrew Jews. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/72572d56b6d231bbd7b73a2edec65c086c7381f4b7ddf56478343fdfd22bfa51.png
– Demographic history of Palestine (region) –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)
It’s called choosing your allies, we always tend to pick a side and don’t sit on the fence. Nothing to do with religion here Greeko, Iran is our enemy and if they come for us..well we can come for them aswell.
Your people are are a plague on humanity.
It’s Yinon plan forever war. Which is why Israel needs to go away and Judaism with it.
In these videos I see no missiles or bombs hitting them. So are these fake or were they hypersonic missiles?
It is quite entertaining…
Placing AD systems in open land is pretty dumb Armenia.
Armenia will drown the Azeri terrorists in their own blood !!!
Unfortunately the new Armenian primeminister instead of fortifying his armed forces, he was busy in engaging in anti-Russian publicity stands. He overestimated his usefulness for the west and whatever coverage he might thought it offered him. Complete criminal negligence. And when war was obviously coming(probably was tipped off by Russians), he hasten his path to acquire A/A systems. Still for 2 months he did nothing on the fortification department.In 2 months he could have covered all the trenches in the front if he wanted. How? In any manner he could. Buying 100 000 used containers if needed and putting them on top of them. That’s ten Km of coverage Excavators could have filled them with dirt. But he hasnt doen even the elementary. I mean how difficult is to create cement enclosures for your A/A systems. It’s not like Armenia had 200 000 of them. In fact Armenia should have detached the launchers from the radars and have the radars be retractable into cement cases Using elevators and reinforced caps for protection. Same with the launchers operating camouflaged from a fortified positions Probably he should have established too data links with the S-3000 radars that could have guided the projectiles from great distance with out the use of locally stationed radars. If he had utilized the experience from Libya and Syria(which should have been his first priority) Today Armenia would have had all it’s systems intact. The fireballs of the suicide drones cant penetrate 2 meters of dirt or a foot of reinforce cement