Armenian forces have sustained more losses as a result of Azerbaijani drone strikes in the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh.
On October 9, the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan shared several videos showing some of the recent drone strikes on Armenian troops. The strikes hit the following targets:
- 4 fortified positions;
- 8 T-72 battle tanks;
- 5 BM-21 multiple rocket launchers;
- 1 Tos-1A thermobaric rocket launcher;
- 1 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer;
- 1 BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicle;
- 1 9K33 Osa short-range air-defense system.
Azerbaijani combat drones also destroyed an Armenian P-18 “Spoon Rest D” and 36D6 “Tin Shield” radars. The P-18 is a 2D VHF radar with a top range of 250 km, while the 36D6 is a 3D E-band radar with a top range of 350 km.
The strikes were apparently carried out by Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 combat drones, which entered service with the Azerbaijani military a few months ago only.
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Despite sustaining heavy losses in Azerbaijani aerial attacks, Armenian forces continue to hold onto their positions in Nagorno-Karabakh with much success.
Looks like a 2nd wave of SAM clearance. We could expect armour and artillery in coming days and the moving further in deep then fortify and repeat.
Yes. Armenians are out of armors, artillery and ammunitions. Some of their bunkers are taken out too.
Artskins are defenseless now.
We dont see how is the destruction because AZ cut image after the explosion…we dont see burning tanks…loitering drones have have only 2kg of explosive…while guide artillery usually is not accurate to make a direct impact just near..
Do you mean they are some molotov cocktail explosions and Armmenian armor is intact?
36D6 “Tin Shield” radars????thanks Sf, ı thought it was R-325U ECM.
I am Turkish I do not support Armenia or Azerbaijan but I support Assad against Erdogan: D
Aahahahah. I see you haven’t changed for a iota.
changed to what?
google it…
haha you are a funny guy tras :D
You are Turkish , but you can not speak a single word of Turkish , strangely . LOL.
Is there no cheap way for freedomfighters to take out these drones? The US gave the Afghans shoulder-mounted Stingers to take down the Russian helicopters, Can’t a simple optical device see them easily ; to shoot them down with a sniper rifle ?
U should stop playing call of duty.
You should return to the Christianity of your great grandfather … bakatoglu
How the shit we could even imagine such a garbage nick: “Khazar supremacy”. Endless laughing :)))) So ridiculous
Khazar supremacy: BS nick
They can. Problem is Armenia is lead by traitors, sending people into the meatgrinder while denying proper air defense.
Yes. And Parshinyan declared anything spreading rumors will be shot dead. So only he can talk….
Very democratic… Western values…
Western perversity,paedophilia,capitalist fascist intend to squeeze the others for profit,genocide for profit,build face-save face,pretending constantly etc those are a part of the western “values” …. To be more exact open the the Pandora’s Box and u will find them all there!
He was considered a Nato dupe ,so now he is hated by Russia and by his Turk Nato friends. Idiot! Now he will learn what false friends those Natoists are. Also noone can trust a Turk . He always tries to be the conqueror… never your equal.
They betrayed Mother Russia and needs a spank.
Erdo needs one too and was slapped by the US ,Israel and Putin. Maybe Erdo and Armenia’s president should elope and go to Brazil together? Now that would be a love /hate relationship with sparks and passion.lol
They betrayed their own country by not prividing proper air defense.
Moscow betrayed Armenians.
How so? Armenia isn’t governed by them. And the Armenian leadership are on CIA/Soros payroll.
And Kremlin on Deripaska and Abramovich payroll
Wut?
The boyfriends of Putin
Putin has many friends. Unlike HumplyTrumply and Zellersky.
And thwy offer him expensive watches.
Why not. I like watches too. Better than offering teenage girls like Epstein did to Clinton’s. #Pizzagete #Pedogate #Epstein didn’t kill himself…
How about the little boys that Putin kisses on the belly and then suddenly dissapear?
You must be mixing him up with Pedo Biden…
Only countries like US, Israel and China have weapons like laser guns that can shoot down those drones.
SAMs are so costly. And they can’t be renewed.
Thanks..
” Only countries like US, Israel and China have weapons like laser guns that can shoot down those drones. ”
Yes, and sharks with laser beams.
Also, probably only those same countries who can jam those drones with electronic warfare.
Even Russia S-400 can’t shoot down 200 drones all coming at the same time.
It’s not worth using the S-300 or 400 to shoot the UAVs …
That is part of it. But the drones can take out the S-300….
I do not think Turkey’s uav can win over Syria and Russia’s defense in Syria
Syria has many air defense system and more than Azerbaijan and Armenia they have shot 70 missiles down from Usa tomahawk and how can uav win?
In Syria, Russians use Pantsir for the drones, very successfully, cheaply, and efficiently.
Can any medium country really afford to send even ten or fifty drones to take out one s/300 /400 and still have enough to win a war?
Helicopters are more observable than drones.
Yes of course you are right. Yet I was using the Stinger as an example of a cheap ,user-friendly and portable way of getting rid of a threat ie Russian helicopters. So i was asking for an equivalent counter to the new threat of our times-drones.
Drones being used in a hot war it’s a new thing, I don’t know either :)
Not really. Drones were already used in WWIi.
Some of these drones are high flying and hard to spot without radar. And what night operations. That why the Azeris went after air defense and their radars on day one.
Yes of course. Drones will now be the new gamechanger just as airplanes and tanks were in their early days.
” The US gave the Afghans shoulder-mounted Stingers to take down the Russian helicopters, ”
Why haven’t the Russians returned the favor ?
LOL , freedomfighters , or invader as per UN reolsutions.You are not asking a quedtion , yopu are just pushing propaganda .
Lol who are you to talk ? Get out of Cyprus as the UN said as it is illegal and you are invaders too or didn’t you know that?
That train has already left when you refused the Annan Plan. You are waiting for a miracle since 47 years. , keep waiting though. LOL. We are ready to meet the consequences of our actions ,tell this also to your armenian friends so that may be they can stop whining and begging for help from whereverv they can find.
Hooray … congrats! perhaps more devastating to the stubborn Armenian
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Armenians never learn anything. They are so stubborn. They enjoy the barren mountains for 30 years. Now they are pushed out of N-K.
Such sad story.
Even if I don’t specially like Armenian, I hope they will give a hard time to Azeri-Turkish frantics
As far as I know, the Azeri government wants to expel the Armenian soldiers from Nagorno Karabakh, but not the Armenians who want to live there. It seems that the 30 years of NK under Artsakh’s colony are not progressing. Azerbaijan can bring change to NK because it has the ability to revive investment and progress
Current N-K population is only 150,000. Most Armenians do not really want to live there as poor farmers. They do not really have a life.
Yeah with israHelli dirty money
Suffering from post-colonial syndrome? If not then its non of your business. If yes, go find help
No, no post colonial syndrome at all. Just tired of Turkish and Co. arrogance.
But its nothing that affects you in any way. Why bother? Are you bothered by Myanmar conflict, or Indonesian Papua issue, or Mexican cartel standoff? “God Father” movie has a very nice quote: “don’t touch the problem that is not touching you”
Same shit that happened in Syria. Armenia should get S300 urgently. Will the Iranian collaborate? The Russian?…We have unfortunately to wait Azeris to get deeper in Armenia before expecting any move. Without urgent air defense supply, things will get critical for Armenian forces soon…
They are pretty much useless against those drones. You can send in 100 drones all at the same time. They can spot those S-300 and destroy them easily.
Armenia wants to keep any S-300 for Yerevan. To protect Mr. Pashinyan’s palace.
that guy should be HANG for treasons, against the Armenian People
And that’s how the war started, Kremlin decided to oust Armenia president. Soon Putin will have the same fate.
You missed the point, the guy “went to bed” with Soros,Putin will not be eliminated
What point did I miss? Putin decided to eliminate him by asking hus friend, Erdogan.
What point did I miss? Pimpeo virus decided to eliminate him by asking hus friend, Erdogan.
Well Armenia’s president was supposedly a Natoist stool pigeon. Now he is hated by Putin and his Nato friend -Turkey -as well. Ironic .
It was clear from the beginning that Putin gave the green light to Erdogan to give Armenians a lesson. They forgot who helped them in the first war.
It was clear from the beginning that Pimpeo virus gave the green light to Erdogan to give Armenians a lesson. They forgot who helped them in the first war.
Trump*
Pretty girl for a guy’s name like that. Lol
Well they can’t be that easy to kill or why would Russia ,Turkey and Iran have them?
Do both countries have any alternatives?
I agree ,I’m not happy with Russia’s work in Syria.
I think Russia is not interested in Assad but they just want to eliminate jihadist in Syria
I agree but this is a bad policy. Assad or not ,Russia should ensure Syria is wholly free and fights to remove all out of Syria ,not just jihadists.
yes but NATO is also afraid of Russia they dare not attack Syria if they interfere means Hezbollah and Iran come in too so it will be a lot of chaos but I think if NATO attacks Assad then Iran will probably come almost big weapon to Syria to protection them
Yes ,I agree…They are ” equally ” balanced for the moment.
” yes but NATO is also afraid of Russia they dare not attack Syria if they interfere ”
You’re smoking the good stuff. Care to share ?
Dreaming big again. sahin
Armenia already has some S-300 in the rear areas. Pantsir systems may have helped them, but they are not a rich country.
Those are a lot of military hardware that got destroyed. Apparently those are not old videos. Azerbaijan is not cooking fake news like Armenia did.
Armenian leadership really needs to answer to its own people. They can’t continue to fool its own people with all the fake propaganda information.
How do you know that that tanks are destroyed?…you see a thermal explosion but could be few explosive warhead…tanks have reactive armour to deter loitering drones explosion( Orbiter only have 2kg of explosive) even in top part!
bayraktar tb2 successfully demonstrates firing of 22.5 kg roketsan MAM-L smart munition with 100% precision https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/33d92d08562ec59ee90d2b976d7d695e5463d09c5be2a93c1ae2ed306e03b040.jpg
TB2 drone is a sitting duck..almost 70 of them have been shot down in Syria and Libya!…Turkish post many image of destruction of SAA..but few days after SAA launched an offensive and retake Saraqib and 5 village more beside opened the M5 Highway!..
Long live Assad!
How did they shoot down the Bayraktars then ?
exactly ı watched over and over again many shots must be mam-l fyi:Kornet-E: ~7 kg HEAT warhead (tandem) •TOW 2: ~6 kg HEAT warhead (tandem) •Javelin: ~8,5 kg HEAT warhead (tandem, top attack) •MAM-L: 10 kg HEAT warhead (tandem, top attack) and guide artillery like krasnopol and excalibur is quiet expensive and cover area is very large it doesnt fit here.
We have seen a lot videos from Syrian civil war. Even if the tank is not destroyed, it is definitely damaged. N-K does not have much industry and engineers. All able men have to fight. So Artskins have no ability to repair any military equipment. Also those are old tanks. Parts are hard to get. So any damaged armors are considered lost.
But this is not a problem on the Azeri side. They have industry. They get engineers to build pipelines and heavy industry. They can repair tanks.
Suddenly your the armchair expert on Armenian capabilities, have you ever been there Turk ISIS rat?
Also, those are not even kamikaze drones. Each drone can carry several bombs. Most of them can return to base and re-load.
Here is the negotiation over the past 30 years. For Armenia and N-K, they want:
1. Referendum on the status of N-K. 2. Control of the Lachin district and Kalbajar district 3. Armenians only withdraw from occupied Azeri districts outside N-K as a package deal with the referendum or N-K independence
For Azerbaijan. They want:
1. Agree to some form of N-K referendum 2. Return of Azeri refugees to their original homes and land 3. Armenian withdrawal from all occupied Azeri district outside N-K before any agreement 4. There won’t be any package deal. Any peace agreement have to come after the above #2 and #3.
A compromise Armenia should have negotiated should look like this:
1. Armenian withdrawals from all Azeri district outside N-K 2. Put Lachin corridor and Kalbajar corridor under international guarantee of free passage. They are Azeri territory. 3. Open Meghri corridor to Nakhchivan region. International guarentee. 4. Allow all original Azeri population return to N-K. Stop immigration from Armenia to N-K 5. Draft agreement on N-K referendum under international observation 6. Peace agreement guaranteed by Russia, US, Turkey and France.
This will make N-K region a de facto independent entity like Odessa, Abkhazia etc. They still belong to Azerbaijan, but essentially ruled by themselves.
But Armenian side never agreed to the above. They objected to the return of Azeri refugees, withdrawal of all Azeri territory outside N-K. And they wanted the outright independence of N-K from Azerbaijan.
Osetia not Odesa
Odessa should also be independent. There would be less Ukrainian boats racing around the Black Sea trying to cause problems. :)
SevenMoons is not the best with details, he believes in a fake history and identity.
Last time they tried terrorists were kfc
Indeed, ukropnazis good a good dose of Smerch ;)
Odesa got its terrorist rats burned for good.
Kievn nazis still burning in Donetsk… Thankfully mutti merkel sent mobil crematoriums…good ol german tech…
Yeah I know Motorolas and Givis are still expliding, thanks to Putler.
Thanks to CIAisis.* Dont worry for every man 20 SBU CIA toyboys bit the dust.
If CIA can operate in Donetsk that means it operates in Moscow too. And that would mean that Putin is a CIA agent and Motorolas&Givis didn’t know.
Meanwhile Outibs man rubs the U.S. ;) Thst means he control everything. Bow before your Overlord Putin ?
Putin runs for sure Dems minds.
Both parties. That’s the bare minimum.
Too bad he allows oligarchs to plunder poor Russians. Thwy will woke up at some point and he will pay fir his treason.
You spelled Americans wrong. Indeed it’s sad that a 100 of them own $11 trillion in the U.S. Thankfully kicked out the traitors whom stayed are taxed now and working for Mother Russia. Meanwhile Jeff Bezos earned $30bluon this year and paid zero taxes. Ouch…
Why should Armenians agree to anything? They were there before Azerbaijanis became Moslems anyway. Same as Serb agreeing to lose Kosovo? Why should they ,Serbs there before Moslems ever arrived or Albanians converted. Why should Greeks agree to Turks taking over Cyorus? Tge Greeks were there beforetheTurks ever afrived ?
See what I mean. Noone gives up their Fatherland willingly unless you are a Quisling !
Also Azerbaijan can’t talk at all . It is part of Persia and the latter should take it back when it can. Now is a good time for Iran ,Russia and Armenia to smash Azerbaijan/Turkey together.
Mongols once controlled all those regions, Persia, India, even out to Hungary. Can they say Iran belongs to Mongol now?
Whatever happened 1,000 or 2,000 years ago has no meaning. Ottoman Empire once had the huge region. They can’t claim now. Rome or Byzantine once had huge territory. But what now?
Germans once had the Prussia. But it all gone. Nothing Germans can do.
Things all change. We have to respect status quo. Any unilateral change to status quo is illegal.
Valid points ,so why did Turkey egg Azerbaijan on to invade Artsakh?Why did Turkey invade Libya? Why did Turkey invade Greek and Cypriot Zones? Why has Turkey invaded Amohostos Varosia in Occupied-Cyprus again right this minute? Why did Turkey flash radar on French and Greek naval assets?
A lot of unilateral making- of- waves by Erdo ,don’t you think?
Because Armenian invade N. K.. Libyan government invite Turkey just like Syria invite Russia… Cyprus belongs to Turkey anyway they can do whatever they want. with MARAS…. flying dumbo
Invade ”Artsakh” ? Can you tell how you call this is an invasion while UN resolutions label Armenians as invaders and declared NK asAzarbaijan soil ?
Why also consider Libya as an invasion when there are no fighting Turkish forces there and TR helps the sole government government recognized by the UN.
TR was a guarantor state in Cyprus , and finally had tyo interefer there due greek attrocities i-gnited by the greek cypriots with the green light of Colonels junta in Greece, not even speaking about the facts thatit is your people who refused Annan Plan
Yr ‘radar flashing theory ‘ is debunked by NATO and France could nort even object to the report published by NATO.
So pls try asking real questions instead of trying to divert people to your path of discussion with false accusations and distorting the history .
When you say UN ,you mean nato Us- accepted gov of Libya,and it is illegal as it has not had elections again within the time limit. A Libyan version of Guiado from Venezuela foisted on an unwilling population. What happened to your Quisling ,MrSarraj?
Ok. Guarantor power. So was Greece ,so was Uk and if you went in as a guarrantor power why did you not leave and remove your occupying army with you when order was restored. . Not to mention your illegal flood of “settlers”.
Who says massacres? Was it not the Turks who first removed themselves into fortified hamlets because they were not happy with democracy ? They wanted power far more than their numbers warranted.Go tell some Average Joe your fairytales. A Turk talking about massacres! Ha! The Greeks could massacreTurks for a year of Sundays and still not manage to come close to the massacres committed by Turks all over the areas they ruled. E ven Moslems even now. Need I remind you of the massacres of the Kurds in1938- by your so-honourable Turks- as well. Dont make me laugh. Yiu just be so butt hurt ,i gave rwbutted everypointyou have ever made. That is what happens to fools who know nothing but propaganda from some shithole .
What about the AnnanPlan? Who says it was any good and that The greeks should accept it. Should Germany in fifty years time accept equal rule with the Turks who live in Germany? So non Turk -Germans one vote and the Turkish communuty ,one vote? So Rebel nationalist traitor Turks in Germany want to take Germany and be annexed to Turkey and the non -Turk German community should accept it? What planet do you live in ! Obviously a Nationalist Turk world who loves authoritarianism.
I believe France anyday than a a Nato report. “Nato” reports also said Sadam had WMD and Assad had Sarin. Hahah
You have still not rebutted a thing i have said on this site . Not once. Yiu have never proved i made a false accusation not false history. You simply didn’t do your homework and know the whole story or more likely ,WORSE ,you are a paid shill employed to lie and deny the truth here.
When I mean about UN recognized government , I mean UN recognized government So dont trivalize these organisations with yr personal BS trying to show them as NATO – Us affiliated organisations , I am really fed with such f BS from yr kind. Please quit showing yr personal and marginal opinions as realities as well , just like you have done in Guaido example. I am talking about the internationally recognized Sarraj goverment who proposed that general elections should be held as a part of Libyan truce , which even was not replied by Haftars government. Are we clear on that now ?
Before starting to discusss about Cyrpus , please tell me what Enosis means and who is Nikos Samson , what is EOKA –B Go ahead and
enlighten us. Please also tell us who is responsible for refusing the Annan
Plan If Greeks still could not understand their mistakes and the bloodbath they caused in the island , then they dont deserve a united state. They had 47 years , now they have lost their chance.
Noone waits till eternity. Btw do you you deny greek attrocities in Cyprus, do you want me to flood this place with them ? But the most funny part was which you were trying to give examples from Germany as if Germans started an illegal gang like EOKA – B and tried to kill Turks there
BTW which cherkes ( cirkassian )massacre with in Anatolia you are speaking about ? – There is only one Cirsasian genocide , it took during the very beginning of 19 the century and the perpatrators were yr beloved Russians . so why dont you quit creating masascres from your ass ?
If you are trying to speak about K urds , it started in 1806 , not 1925. There are 38 Kurdish uprisings so far – The one in 1925 ( not 1923 you illiterate monkey ) was initiated by the British when TAF prepared to walk over Musoul. . The letter Sheikh Said wrote to Brithis Lords begging for help still circulates on net.
Finally , dear – you did not buff anything , look above and read how yr arguments are full of mistakes , shallow cliches ,shortcomings, and lies exposed by me . You are just trying to keep yrself above the water with 2 sentence irrelevant so called questions which do not even need to be replied. You guys should not leave the peripher of your church ,you certainly suck and make clowns out of yrself here .And you wish I was a paid shill , the reason why I am wrecking you here is fully for my personal amusement, and I will be around for a while – Get used to it.
Shutup with your UN gov. Libya was raped by fellow Moslems like you and Gulf countries helping your masters Nato. It was conquering and putting in lackeys pure and simple.
As if I didn’t know about Samson and kurds and it is you who knows nothing of the Cherkess .Maybe I should teach you your history seeing as you don’t know about Kemal killing the once -loyal Cherkess . I was referring to the last major one you ,coban , of Dersim of 1938. Learn from teachers , not rabble next time.
Turkey loves Russians more than anyone, especially now .Before it was Israel and now it is the USA. You have not exposed siht ,all you do is bring up more Nationalist crap and i have had to teach you your own history. Disgraceful.
I’m bored with you for now.
Why should Armenians agree to anything? Because they will lose it all if they don’t dummy.
Who says?
Videos and footages says so . But of course it is easy to talk about someone elses children and ask them to fight till death while posting from your keyboard , isnt it ?
Footage and video shows what? Many have said that the videos are suspiciously stopped at the point of explosion and not showing flaming tanks or debris. I agree, it is too early to tell if drones really did destroy tanks.
In any case,there is a bulldust ceasefire on like the one that Turkey has with Russia in Syria. What a joke. Let’s see if it lasts.
Well when hostilities resume after Azer buys all the drones Turkey can spare, so they can have 5 times the air strikes against the Armenian military they were making per day we will see.
I can see that a large number of Armenians are fools which is why they have been cutting all ties with Russia. Kick that Russia military base out ASAP so Turkey can conquer Armenia and learn to speak Turkish and learn to like it.
I agree with the first sentence of your second paragraph. Maybe Turks need to learn Greek ,Armenian and Assyrian?
Chicken hawks like you love to fight hopeless wars which others will die for. .Armenia’s present leaders are just like you.They like you don’t give a damn about their own people and only follow the orders of their racist supremacist satanic master who funded and ran the coup to get them into power. Looks like many Armenians will be harvested soon.
If you really believe what you say why don’t you volunteer to go to the front lines and fight to the death?
When hostilities resume after Azer buys all the remaining drones Turkey can spare, so they can make 5 times the air strikes against the Armenian military they were making per day, the total defeat of Armenia should take less then a month.
I can see that a large number of Armenians are fools which is why they have been cutting all ties with Russia.Kick that Russia military base out and get oiut of the CSTO ASAP so Turkey can conquer Armenia and learn to speak Turkish and to like it.
Go and look this up for yourself as nothing beats the voluntary confession.
“Wars are the Jews harvest, for with them we wipe out the Christians and get control of their gold. We have already killed 100 million of them, and the end is not yet.” (Chief Rabbi in France, in 1859, Rabbi Reichorn.)
How are you different from a Chicken Hawk ,then? Why aren’t you on the front lines then ,Asia Minor -Occupier?
As for Jews,they were the backbone of your YoungTurks and Attaturk was a Donmeh. You were pals with Israel since its inception till only a few years ago. Who are you trying to fool ,Turkey is hand in hand with Jews.
I advocate peace not war like you. Why do you want to see your fellow Armenians slaughtered for no good reason in a war they are certain to lose?
As I said, If Armenia’s leaders had any brains they would have given back the occupied areas of Azerbaijan that are not theirs and not Nagorno-Karabakh. They could have made this deal and can still do it now allowing Azers whowere cleansed in Nagorno-Karabakh. to come back and get their property or become part of Russia.
Then have an agreement for the rights of Armenians and Azers, have the area of Nagorno Karabakh jointly governed agree to make it a demilitarized zone etc.
Then it would be settled and everyone could save face or become part or Russia
The economic blockade of Armenia would be over either way as part of Russia or with such a settlement.
This is what you said. “As I said, If Armenia’s leaders had any brains they would have given back the occupied areas of Azerbaijan that are not theirs …”
Swap Armenia for Turkey,swap Azerbaijan for Asia Minor…
You said “….could have made this deal and can still do it now allowing Azers whowere cleansed in Nagorno-Karabakh. to come back and get their property …”
You first ,exit Occupied Cyprus and Afrin in Syria etc as a sign of good will and then others may trust you.
I advocate peace not war like you. Why do you want to see your fellow Armenians slaughtered for no good reason in a war they are certain to lose? Why are you a Shabbas Goy?
As I said, If Armenia’s leaders had any brains they would have given back the occupied areas of Azerbaijan that are not theirs and not Nagorno-Karabakh. They could have made this deal and can still do it now allowing Azers whowere cleansed in Nagorno-Karabakh. to come back and get their property or become part of Russia.
Then have an agreement for the rights of Armenians and Azers, have the area of Nagorno Karabakh jointly governed agree to make it a demilitarized zone etc.
Then it would be settled and everyone could save face or become part or Russia.
The economic blockade of Armenia would be over either way as part of Russia or with such a settlement.
”They were there before Azerbaijanis became Moslems anyway.”,Serbs were there before ”Moslems ever arrived or Albanians converted.”
Thats what happens when you shape your worldview on religious dogmas; You decide who has the right, who can live where depending on their religion , if they bare converted . LOL.
So sad.
Noone can live amongst Turks . Not non-Turk Moslem nor non-Moslem. Turkey is a destroyer of souls and bodies.
The only man who tried to teach you to be able to live in civilised Society was Kemal Attaturk and even he was a sadistic butcher. Yet he tried and achieved much ,only for dog Islamists to return .
You tried to invade Anatolia and Kemalscrewed you all . It is your fault that Hellenizm is erased from Anatolia. After what you had done , it would be a mistake to keep you here .
Do you deny greek attrocities in Anatolia? If you dont , why you apoligised for yr attrocitiies afterwards and confessed that your actions were out of war ?
Anyhow your last sentence which goes as ‘’ only for dog Islamists to return .’’ sums it up , Mr Church Monkey – You are the other side of the fanatism coin. So can we call you a ‘ dog Orthodox ‘’ ? or even shorter , ‘’ An Orthodog’’ ‘’ ??
Armenia has no respect to international law or can be trusted with any agreement. They hoped for the help of Russia, but Putin clearly stated that the war is taking place “NOT ON THE TERRITORY OF ARMENIA”. Which was a shock for Armenia. If Russia intervenes militarily, Turkey will intervene on the side of Azerbaijan, and Russia has no interest of facing Turkey on the battlefield to do Armenia’s bidding. Armenia has always been just a satellite of Russia holding its #102 military base. Azerbaijan has tried to solves this by the way of negotiations for 30 years. Now it is waging an offensive on its own legal and internationally recognized territories, and has freed vast territories already and is ready and willing to continue, unless Armenia is ready to come to terms with the fact that #KarabakhisAzerbaijan!!!
Knowing Armenian pride, I think this will be endless war. Still, this war is absurd, the former status quo was not a real problem for any of both protagonists. Peopole there seem to be driven by their emotions instead of intelligence. Really boring and disappointing!!
Status quo can’t continue forever. Clearly the balance of power has been shifting. All parties knew it. Yet Armenia decided to gamble and puts all its bet on the West.
Armenian gamble pays out really badly….
Stupid to trust Americano -centric Nato anyway. America has done nothing even for the smaller countries of Europe.
Unfortunately TRUE. Armenian look perfid and potentially betraying. They should improve their strategy and shift radically their international policy
Status quo barred 700thousand refugees from returning to their homes
It is guide artillery not TB2 drone! also Armenia attacks Azerbajan position with guide artillery…the diference is that AZ have many small drones on air to post image..both have Krasnopol and guide rockets like new guide rocket smerch and Israeli&Belarus guide rockets ( azerbajan)
Both sides have Krasnopol? I was not aware of that. There is both the original 152mm and also a 120mm version.
So the videos from bayraktars are just flying cameras ? Hmm interesting and I didn’t think of that.
What bayraktars?…its small Orbiter drone with laser finger to aim targets…TB2 is easy to shot down only useful like all attacks drone in an scenario without air defense!
I’m not saying it. Southfront in this report says they were Bayraktars. What you say is very plausible but maybe the bayraktars are high up and we are seeing a magnified image of the targets through their optics? I don’t know.
harbut is azerbaycan soil again!!! https://twitter.com/CeyhunAsirov/status/1314570907847884800
map https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b62ab5d9d79a59e7cedbab22730ce2fdd1e52aca8a859fd36d498597689b2e62.jpg
This map looks like how post WW1 German territory was divided. Its an intentional recipe for future war. Who makes borders like that ?
dark greens under azeri control recently, reds clashes ongoing, light greens/yellow in n-k under armenian control
dark greens recent azeri gains…reds clashes ongoing…light greens/yellow in n-k under armenian control
I’m talking about the Nahcivan area. Why would it be cut off from Azerbaijan ?
uniting nahcivan with azerbaycan would cut off armenia from iran and then they become isolated=unsolved again…how would you make borders?
Where is it written that Armenia needs to have a border with Iran ? It makes no sense for Nachivan to be Azerbaijani territory , yet to b cut off from Azerbaijan . Whomever agreed to that setup is foolish. It looks almost intentional, as it will always lead to conflict.
As far as a solution goes, the only logical, peaceful thing to do would be a land swap, but I’m against any ” land bridges ” or autonomous zones, thats silly also and a recipe for future conflict.
With all the turkish help Azerbaijan didn’t win the war yet? Pretty weak
Yes, pretty weak. It is safe. Walk in the park. Send more greeks to NK
You seem to speak of the Greeks often. Are you waking with night -sweats thinking of your great grandfather and what the Turks did to him to force convert him? You aren’t the only one. Plenty of you there. Most in Erdogan’s gov.
I dont speak of the greeks , I speak to the greeks , sweetie. That guy I replied is also a greek , from liveumap. Your common trait is looking for trouble thinking that you can pass yr regular stupidity here , but tune down when you get yr reply , just like you did in yr previous comment . Too many of you obsessed buthurt guys around , especially nowadays , trying to prove something , god knows what.
You are also a greek , even if you lie and refuse. Your user name is brotherma@kosmasaitolos . A siimple googling shows that your name is derived from Cosmas of Aetolia.
”Cosmas of Aetolia, sometimes Kosmas of Aetolia or Cosmas/Kosmas the Aetolian or Patrokosmas “Father Cosmas” (Greek: Κοσμάς ο Αιτωλός, Kosmas Etolos; born between 1700 and 1714 – died 1779), was a monk in the Greek Orthodox Church. He is recognized as one of the originators of the twentieth-century religious movements in Greece.[1] He is also noted for his prophesies.[2]”
Why you guys are always lying ? What is wrong with you ?
And quit hiding behind that desperate ‘conversion’ argument ,noone cares .I dont know know what they are teaching you over there in greece , but I can assure you , you are living in a completely different fantasy dimension and reality will hit you very hard soonerf or later.
You are so foolish. A fake name like any other on the internet. Please! There are Hick Americans on Far Right sites calling themselves Hitler ,does that make them German? Aren’t you the Turk i explained this to months ago or was he another?
I already said I’m a Philhellene a long time ago so get over it.
Now as for your baiting me about me supposedly keeping quiet? Won’t work. I already said i won’t keep talking with you about this because you are childish and can’t rebut my points as I said. You had your chance and blew it.
Find someone else to play with but if i catch you bullshitting on site i will call you out again as i have in the past.
What a blatant liar you are . Someone who takes ‘its’ name from an 18th century greek orthodox monk , uses the same foolish arguments simply looks at my face and repeats its lie over and over expecting me to swallow it., Unbeliavable.
Do you know what is duck theory test, clown ? If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test
All of your points are buffed , thats the reason you could not write a single reply to my previous comment . What points you have other than a few copy pasted BS Yopurtube videos , what argument you have other than some butthurt claims ?
And I am the one caught you bullshitting you fucking moron , I replied to one of your BS posts whom you wrote to someone else , not the way around.
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So which points of this “fucking moron” did you rebut?
Almost all of them , In the end that’ fucking moron’ could not reply to any of my questions but tried to slip away with a comment starting with Bla bla bla ” Go and fetch .
Whatever. You are the master of psychological projection and you have projected all your lapses onto me. LOL
Show me where I bullshitted.
LOL , usuallt-y the sentence goes as ;I am not even greek , but I am … ‘ You can not even tell that because you know that I will get yr lie , and expose you step by step. LOL
blablah. You are butthurt that i raised things you never knew or wanted to hide from here. You were caught.
I will not be answering all you say from now on as you are rude and unreasonable. Expect me when you blather on something of particular stupidity or propaganda though. If I see it , I will call you out.
I’m changing my name to Rumi as well just for you .
Ottoman leftover
Anothr butthurt minion refusing his idenmtity and pushing his half assed propaganda on net.
o değilde ermeniler vallahi daha delikanlı yunanlılardan,o kadar fakirlik savaş yaşıyor herifler birde ab üyesi yunanlılara bak bir eli yağda bir eli bağda hala santimetresine kadar bizimle yatıp bizimle kalıyorlar..çok tiksindirici bir ülke …
90% of destruction is by artillery guided shells having target by mini uav or sat.
What type of guided artilery ? Also they say Bayraktar can have up to twentyfive ? kg payload. Can’t that take out a tank?
in the most videos the shell comes from other direction. Turks a few months before this war bought large portion of guided shells by South Africa
So the dead hand of the Turk is proved to be behind this again.
So they bought guided shells from South Africa or used South Africa as a secret partner to access guided shells from somewhere else?
How can you see where the shell comes from?
i dont know that
25 kg tungsten dart from 8km does the job using kinetic energy alone.
Thanks ,I didn’t know that . How do you shoot them ? Out of standard artillery gun?
These low and slow drones should be sitting ducks for any competent air force and air defense force. They shouldn’t even be allowed off of the ground. Wherever they’re flying out of should be hit just like was done in Libya. Armenia is either sandbagging, out gunned or inept. Or a combination thereof.
Aren’t S-300s dual use? With an up to 400km range. That can hit surface targets.