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UPDATED: Wagner Fighters Are Going To Leave Bakhmut

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On May 5, head of the Wagner PMC Evgeny Prigozhin declared that Wagner fighters will leave the city of Bakhmut on May 10 and will hand over control of their positions to the units of the Russian Ministry of Defence.

The reason of Prigozhin’s decision is the shell hunger which was artificially created by Russian military commanders responsible for the supply of ammunition to the front lines.

“On May 10, 2023, we are forced to hand over positions in the village of Bakhmut to the units of the Ministry of Defense and withdraw the remnants of the Wagner PMC to the rear camps to lick wounds. I am withdrawing the units of the Wagner PMCs from Bakhmut, because due to the absence of ammunition they are doomed to senseless death,” the appeal says.

The video appeal was accompanied by the following message from Yevgeny Prigozhin and the Command and fighters of the Wagner PMC to the Chief of the General Staff, the Minister of Defense, the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and the people of Russia:

  • On March 16, 2022, we were asked to immediately stand up to defend our homeland.

  • On March 19, 2022, all units arrived from various directions from Africa and joined the first battle.

  • We chose the direction of our offensive ourselves — the most prepared stronghold of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

  • On May 9, 2022, we took control of the town of Popasnaya, which was the first significant victory in the Donbass.

  • After a series of failures of the Russian Defense Ministry on various front lines, on October 8, 2022, it was decided together with Army General Surovikin to launch Operation Bakhmut Meat Grinder.

  • The operation Bakhmut Meat Grinder was highly effective, distracted a huge number of enemy forces and enabled the Russian army to occupy advantageous defensive lines and continue the offensive.

  • In September-October 2022, during the retreat of the units of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation from Krasny Liman, Izyum and Balakleya, the units of the Wagner PMC held back the enemy’s onslaught near Kremennaya, taking a defense line with a length of 132 km, as well as the line of the second echelon of 207 km.

  • After these events, the units of the Wagner PMC fell out of favor with envious bureaucrats who are close to military affairs. Artificial shell hunger began. An attempt has been made to create an artificial personnel shortage.

  • By May 9, 2023, we were supposed to take control of Bakhmut. The bureaucrats close to the military affairs were aware of our plans, but from May 1, they almost cut us off from any artillery ammunition.

  • The units of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, which are aimed to cover our flanks, hardly restrain them. The declared number of troops is very different from the real one. Instead of tens of thousands, there are ten and rarely hundreds of fighters.

  • The offensive resources of the Wagner PMCs ended at the beginning of April, but we are advancing, despite the fact that the enemy forces outnumber us by five times. This is at the standards of at least a three-fold advantage, which should have been on our side during the offensive.

  • Due to the lack of ammunition, our losses are growing exponentially every day.

  • Despite this, the council of commanders of the Wagner PMC decided to hold positions and continue the offensive on Bakhmut until May 10, 2023, so that the sacred holiday for Russians — May 9, Victory Day — would be met with the brilliance of Russian weapons.

  • I am officially addressing the Chief of the General Staff, the Minister of Defense, the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and the people of Russia. I declare on behalf of the fighters of the Wagner PMC, on behalf of the Command of the Wagner PMC, that on May 10, 2023, we are forced to turn over control of our positions in Bakhmut to the units of the Ministry of Defense and withdraw the remnants of the Wagner PMC to the rear camps to lick wounds. I am withdrawing the units of the Wagner PMCs from Bakhmut because in the absence of ammunition they are doomed to senseless death.

  • I am appealing openly, since none of my letters have been considered, I have reported on all the problems since March 19, 2022.

  • The Defense Minister said this week that there is more than enough ammunition. The shortage of shells in the Wagner PMC is 90%.

  • I ask the Chief of the General Staff to sign a combat order addressed to the Wagner PMC for the handing of the positions in the city of Bakhmut to the units of the Ministry of Defense and specify the date when they will replace us in positions.

  • Of course, I foresee criticism. After some time, there will be smart guys who will say that it was necessary to stay in Bakhmut etc. Those who have critical comments — come to Bakhmut, welcome, stand up with weapons in your hands instead of our murdered comrades.

  • I want to emphasize once again: out of 45 square kilometers of Bakhmut, 2.5 kilometers remain (under Ukrainian control). By not giving us shells, you are not depriving us of victory, you are depriving the people of Russia of victory.

  • We will lick our wounds, and when the motherland is in danger, we will stand up to defend her again. The Russian people can count on us.

The Kremlin reported that they saw Prigozhin’s messages  bu tno other claims have been provided so far.

Evgeny Prigozhin has been constantly complaining on the lack of ammunition, blaming the Russian military command for complicating Wagner’s military operations.

In the recent days, Prigozhin has shared numerous appeals from the front lines, claiming that Wagner’s losses are growing.

The following video was shared on May 4:

 

 

Prigozhin’s decision to withdraw troops from Bakhmut led the public into confusion, and various experts gave different comments.

On the one hand, Prigozhin has always been responsible for his fighters and has always fought for their wellbeing and honor in various Russian institutions. The decision to leave Bakhmut may be the last call for military officials to fulfill the demands of the fighters.

His decision indicates a deep conflict between representatives of Russian elites, which may become the first stage of a major internal conflict in Russia.

On the other hand, some experts noted that the Wagner militants did not lose the military initiative on the streets of Bakhmut, despite the obstacles stated by the head of the PMCs. They suggested that the escalation of the public scandal between the Wagner PMC and the Russian Ministry of Defense may be a sophisticated media campaign aimed at drawing the Ukrainian military to the offensive in Bakhmut in order to destroy the Ukrainian military potential on the ruins of the war-torn city. The main argument is that such a loud statement was made just on the eve of the Ukrainian counteroffensive, which seems to be starting right now.

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AM Hants

What is left are stuck in a cauldron. Job done. Wagner will move onto the next part of the project and the Russian Forces will rebuild Bakhmut. Remember, those that were conscripted into the Russian Forces have yet to get started.

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Perol

“cauldron” Like at Kharkiv or Kherson?

Clyde

Think Debaltsevo. You remember that, don’t you? I mean, the failed Ukrainian CIA project has been running it’s ATO for nine years now, so one might forget these things.

Guy Metdrapedes

Debaltsevo cauldron was what? 5-6 years ago? Even then it wasn’t the massacre that the dpr claims. Now all we have is tit for tat Russians trading their lives for Ukrainian conscripts. The 5th column in Russia is doing it’s part to bleed the only men with the will to fight.

Florian Geyer

Well said, AM.

I see that the NATO trolls are swarming again.

William White

A nice thought but the Ukies are bringing in MORE MEN, no progress for 3 days. we are so close and yet so far, the Wagner’s have earned this Victory, give them Amo and let the true hero’s of Russia finish the job!

FOAB

CORRECT!!!

The Art of War. “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak” – Sun Tzu, The Art of War. Why do the dead solder’s have no boots?

Yevgeny Prigozhin is a better actor then Volodymyr Zelensky the clown.

Needs to be nominated for the grammy awards 2023

Honey pot for the meat grinder

Yevgeny Prigozhin: Wagner Group boss says he will pull fighters out of Bakhmut?

Come on in to MEAT GRINDER!

He job is almost complete and now moving on to ???

Yevgeny Prigozhin for GRAMMY AWARD 2023 🏆🏆🏆

Last edited 1 year ago by FOAB
FOAB

CORRECT ✅☑✔

The Art of War. “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak” – Sun Tzu, The Art of War. Why do the dead solder’s have no boots?

Yevgeny Prigozhin is a better actor then Volodymyr Zelensky the clown.

Needs to be nominated for the Grammy Awards 2023

Honey Pot for the Meat Grinder

Yevgeny Prigozhin: Wagner Group boss says he will pull fighters out of Bakhmut?

Come on in to MEAT GRINDER!

He job is almost complete and now moving on to ???

Yevgeny Prigozhin for GRAMMY AWARD 2023 🏆🏆🏆

FOAB

Does Yevgeny Prigozhin show a very very small smirk at end of the second video?

Or is it my Imagination???

I’m setting on the fence about the smirk! I just can’t decide!

Feedback please!

Last edited 1 year ago by FOAB
Erina

One day Russia will have to wake up and wipe ukraine off the map and take complete control of it, the 400k soldiers and over 700 planes and helicopters in the north of ukraine can end this war by attacking in the west , completely depriving Ukraine of outside aid and collapsing every front line in the east without manpower and ammunition for the ukrainien side, that would be a huge snowball effect

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Nahavar

it sounds like a trick for conducting the counter offensive to Artemovsk and kill there more ukros

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kotromanic

Every time some russian military does something stupid someone calls it a trick. I do not see tricks anymore just incompetence and corruption.

Sephiroth

Russian authority doesn’t care about its soldiers and citizens. Rewind the history and you will see every war it has own or lost, it paid terrible prices in terms of death. They can’t even provide security to the kremlin.

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Analyst

That is correct. The Russian leadership has always considered their people at best: as cannon fodder; at worst: garbage to be disposed of.

Cromwell

Who told you that the New york times ?

AM Hants

Projecting? Think you will find it Zelinsky who is treating his people as Cannon Fodder.

Hans Richardt

Which units will replace them?

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Gordana

Chechen soldiers, if Putin agrees with Kadyrov’s suggestion.

S-500

In other words… Russian army wants that photo of victory in Bahkmut only show Russian army and Russian flag instead of Wagner PMC and black flag….

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Slobodan

Same things where happening to Serbian army units in the wars of the 90s.

Void

Juice diddit

Analyst

The Russian story: The genius performance of a talented group undermined by envious bureaucrats.

It is like with the lawn: if you stick your head out, you will be cut off.

This environment only breeds subjects and slaves.

Sad, very sad.

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abcd

they are needed in Sudan, I guess ;-)

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Analyst

I think Prigozhin started to get too popular and Putin decided to ‘clip his wings’ a little. So he instructed the Ministry of war to slowly cut back on ammunition shipped to Wagner.

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Slobodan

Exactly the same thing Milošević did to Captain Dragan in the 90s in Yugoslavia…

kotromanic

To allow mercs to do the job was a bad reaction to incompetence in the military. Fix the military then you don’t need mercs.

Cromwell

If there is a shortage of ammo the individuals responsible need removing right now,at best it’s incompetence, at worse its treason.

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Zed

It could be an ultimatum to the Kremlin to obtain the required ammunition.

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aamater

Tak toto boli ozaj tvrdé vyjadrenia. Otázkou je čo sa deje? Bolo by predsa kontraproduktívne brzdiť tých ktorí idú na plno, či? Už raz podobný problém mali a vyriešili ho. Teraz sa zopakoval a to je dosť povážlivé. Toto je chyba, ktorá by sa mala riadne objasniť. Kto je a za čo je zodpovedný!!! Lebo je škoda strácať bojovníkov, ktorí majú chuť bojovať a majú aj patričné nasadenie. A Hudobníci sú takými bojovníkmi. Dokázali to už nie v jednom boji. Putin by sa mal na tento problém pozrieť osobne!!! Je to v záujme celej RF.

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Rogeroverandout

Wagner boys dying needlessly in urban street warfare where toll of artillery is limited so no kill ratio advantage to Wagner boys. Wasn’t the idea to encourage feed of Ukie troops into a meat grinder not the other way round. Too much reliance on Wagner to undertake infantry operations, if Russian army want the “glory” then replace Wagner not sabotage by ammunition neglect but any offensive operations that can’t include wipeouts with artillery is going to look like the heavy losses these heros are taking right now

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Gerry

I tend to agree – there’s definitely a Psy-Ops vibe to all this public hand-wringing. Ev’s primarily addressing Kiev, trying to make them feel good. Let’s see what happens between now and the 9th…

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WT Baker

Just as it is possible that Kiev’s “Spring Offensive” is a sophisticated infowar tactic, it could potentially be the case Russia has an answer.

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kotromanic

How many days will it take for the military command of the russian armed forces to have the brillant idea to tacticly retreat from bachmut?

As for the mercenarys. Mercenarys fought in the greek eastern roman civil war on the losing side. After the winner refused to pay they attacked constantiople and burned and pillaged it. Seeing that they choose a germanic name for their group i would have wagner in the crosshairs of my troops all time to be prepared if either ukraine pays more or they descide pillaging parts of russia is more profitable then fighting in ukraine….

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JHK

How to denazify the smo:

1. they are all jews on both sides.

Egor

Your facial shapes don’t guarantee that you don’t have Jewish blood in you))) this is a fact!

kotromanic

Russia is probably trying to create a legend that the treason of mercs and part of the military officers was the reason for a potential ukrainian offensive towards melitopol/ mariupol.

Egor

))) what? And why is it necessary? )) Justify the Ukrainian offensive? ))) Oh no.. You don’t understand the situation.

Svetlana

@Egor

Wagnerites are afraid that slowly everywhere from Ukraine to the USA the reality sinks in, that Wagner is a private illigal activity.

A terrorist organisation, with fighters from prison to which geneva convention does not apply. So it is stupid to waste precious ukrainian soldiers on them, when the same job can easily be done by some megatons of high-concentrated poison gas or other nerve agents. And all that is completely legal. So now Wagnerites try to leave before their judgement day arrives. Ukraine military offensive ahead, Fagner want to retreat as fast as possible.

Prigozhin himself openly announced that the amounts of losses Wagner is having, can t be sustained any longer, and that they are forced to retreat now, and that all the russian higher up military leaders are ‘bitches’ who should rot in hell, because they are letting the Fagners down, and not give threm the amount of ammunition needed to fight and win, what is why his men are dying like flies. And that this has to stop. See latest Prigozhin speech in front of dozens of fresh Fagnr corpses from that day: https://t.me/EternalMuscovite/45788

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biden_is_a_criminal

Ukraine is a private illegle country. Everything about ukraine is illegal, it should be wiped from the map and taken by the Russians. Period. Nothing good is in Ukraine. Nothing. It needs to be plowed under and left alone for a century for the stink to go away. As well as the stink you are producing.

FOAB

CORRECT! ✅✔

Ukraine or Taiwan are not officially a Country they have no treaties hence the Bio Labs

However Ukraine does recycle ♻ dead solder’s organs as they need the Money 💰💰💰

FOAB

Precious Nazi ukrainian soldiers? That have been killing Civilians is what you mean?

The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi

A terrorist organisation that kills Nazis sounds good to me 💥🔥🔥 Z

Sephiroth

“They suggested that the escalation of the public scandal between the Wagner PMC and the Russian Ministry of Defense may be a sophisticated media campaign aimed at drawing the Ukrainian military to the offensive in Bakhmut in order to destroy the Ukrainian military potential on the ruins of the war-torn city.”

Who are those people? Of course, southfront moderators and commenters.

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Tommy Lee

Fuck, I love Prigozhin. “Now listen to me, suka blyat!” Classic.

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thoughtful

Dear Putin, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? You need to SACK some people working for you. Prighozin is a valuable BIG diamond, in the rough.

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Gordana

Putin is preparing surprise for Kiev.

Gustavo

I see problems between Wagner group and Russian army, ¿ is it possible that for jealously the Russian army stop fulling helping Wagner group ? For sure, there must be a stupid Russian general in the Russia army that he is able to sacrifice Wagner group just for envy, pride, and arrogance.

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Jean Paul France

Only 10% is left to completely take Artyomovsk… why now there is a lack of ammunition ???

Is it Russian treason, is it Ukrainian counteroffensive??

We are perplexed and worried.

Gordana

Same problems Kadyrov had, but he managed to get ammo for his soldiers.

Oscar

The Ukrainian and NATO forces walking into a trap!!!

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Jean Paul France

Holy shit, what a fool you are, Oscar !!!

kymsheba

With WAGNER being pulled off the front line and refitted and rested this is a major clue that the RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE will be starting VERY SOON those troops are being replaced with Regular Russian Army troops and i think the OFFENSIVE is very close to being unleashed by Russia, i would say once WAGNER are off the front line and replaced with the Russian troops the offensive would start within a day or two afterwards VICTORY AND ONWARDS TO ODESSA and KIEV and if need be to the POLISH BORDER AFTER THAT. =Z=

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Gorgeous George

I don’t get it why the don’t vaporize the remaining 3 square kilometers with FAB500 precision guided bombs.

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Erik Nielsen

Equal partners. The Joos. Do you understand it now?

Perol

Instead of the fall of Bakhmut, it will be the fall of the Russian invasion.

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Clubofinfo

after the Ukrainians are all put to a Russian bayonet, the American flab will be impaled and sliced by Chinese knives after they try to fight their wars themselves again

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