China, Russia, Turkey Stand Against US-backed Coup Attempt In Venezuela

You only have to look at history prior to post Roman conquests, they kept what was useful and put the rest to the sword. Worked then and it would work now.

That is the question..will they apply it. Hope so but doubts persist.

I think is up to Venezuela’s allies how Venezuela will react to my opinion. Up to now the americans in SA always did their dirty work using traitors to their mother land and european settlers to do their dirty work. I wonder if the natives there learn their lesson or will repeat the same mistakes as in the past.

Maduro addressing the public and explain to them truthfully what is happening would go a long way towards easing the crisis, he should also publically state that the troublemakers will be apprehended and face court. He needs to make sure that he doesn’t make promises that he can’t keep. The Venezuelans are good people, very loyal once they make that pledge but they need to be fully informed.

I think they are fully informed as this is been happening all their lives been under attack by the zionist and their stooges and errant boys. Same as are the people every where on the globe. It is them and it it us and none is ignorant of fact just chose side. It may be hard for you to understand, but the majority in many countries always chose the wrong side.

Look at the case of SA and who is supporting the americans countries that have millions of dead because of them. Then look around all western countries where western “democracy“ is the rule of the land and all you see is tax slaves that suck the dicks of their masters.

if you call western colonization education and civilized you have a lot to learn, before becoming human. As for the religion part it always stink from the head down and evenagelikans are the worst of the bunch.

No need to attack my intelligence, we detest the same things, we mind the same fight.

We could argue the meaning of ‘civilization’, but what I meant by that are social ethics, sanitation, mathematics, language both writen and spoken, science of agriculture, etc. All of which were brought about to the pacific by missionairies. Their mission was often much more about practical teachings than spiritual ones.

When they were executed or forcibly removed, most often than not you would have some local warlord coming to rule as the new despot, sending the country back to neolithic levels of prosperity, reviving dumbass pagan cults that idolized the sun and practiced ritual killing and cannibalism etc…

I was very far from attacking your intelligence. I just disputed what you claimed for the colonists. And ignorance of fact, is not an indication that the ignorant person it is not intelligent, just not correctly informed.

Well, Then You should blame Your own being late inventing Islam somewhere 650 later.

Very strange. Jews already had most of it written down for You incl. cooking.

Your interpretation of history is rather unique.

The fate of Rome was directly related to the the weight of its very own economic and feudal policies.

The Church under colonialism didn’t bring “education” to un/less civilized people out of love but to convert them to Christianity. Granted that, like other religions, it did take a large portion of the world out of illiteracy.

I can understand how Christian values and the essence of reason/progress found in the Renaissance might have contributed to ending slavery but not Imperialism (which fueled it).

Its difficult to argue about what caused the downfall of Rome. I agree with the point you stated, its certainly one of the many things that brought it down. There’s a reason why ‘byzantine’ became a word synonymous with crushingly bloated governance. But I strongly suspect, not from proven facts but rather from logical deduction, that Christian morality played a big part in how Rome dealt with foreign cultures squatting on its borders and ultimately sacking it. Is the reliance on ‘fedeorati’ in the army the result of economic downfall or a change in philosophy? I think both… To be “roman” lost its prestige.

It is true that it’s not easily argued either. It’s only when the many variables are dissected individually and in relation to one anothe than we can form a coherent conclusion.

The Byzantine Empire and its policies were pretty much a degenerate extention of the Roman Empire. Thus “crushingly bloated governance” most certainly makes sense.

Could you explain your view on how Christian morality played a role in the Roman Empire’s behavior towards others? I ask because Romans were first and foremost pagan. They adopted Christianity (in making a parody ouf it it with pagan rituals/symbols) after the death of Jesus backfired (which resulted in followers).

The foederati was inherent part of the Roman Empire from the beginning but I agree that the empire’s growing reliance on them (which definitely was related to a change in philosophy) contributed to their downfall.

Again this is a very personal interpretation, fed by my observations as a canadian living in a modern country, in a modern age.

That said, I think the ‘small’ details of spirituality can really change the attitude of an entire nation if the ideas become customs through generations. I believe Christianity softened the fighting spirit of the romans. It probably made them much more lax in regards to national integrity and in tolerance for alien, anti-roman cultures as well.

I say this because I’ve observed that attitude in the strongly Christian communities in my country. Although I respect the message of Christ, in practice I find it unsuitable with ideas of nationalism and preservation of a strong state and national identity.

But that’s allot of ‘ifs’. I am ready to be proven wrong.

I agree in “soft” but will add it also became widespread integrating the forner enemies in- and outtside their world.

Canada is the property of the Crown (City of London, British Empire). It came to be the same way the Roman Empire (and others) swallowed others: military conquest, mass-killing of inhabitants and/or mass-displacement and/or forcible convertion to the monotheistic religion of the conqueror. If you think otherwise, I invite you to ask the indigenous people of Canada.

Suggesting that Christianity softened the heart of conquering Romans is, I think, very Hollywodian. Christianity served as a tool to unify the people of the empire but also subjugated them under a Divine Being and thus under the say of the Roman Emperors.

That is not to say Christianity is bad and/or that Christian communities/nations are a poor example of society. I can speak for myself: I was born and raised (Maronite) Christian and while I don’t believe in the Biblical fairytales anymore, I still consider myself culturally Christian. I can attest that all Christian communities in Lebanon and elsewhere in the Middle East have always been the most advanced. Up until our civil war, Lebanon was mostly Christian, our currency was 2:1 with the US dollar and we were the Paris/Switzerland of the Midlde East. Lebanon stands today because of its Christians.

Taking a moment to understand the real origin of the Christian faith versus what the Romans and later others made it to be sheds tremendous light on why Christian nations, in general, been more advanced. It’s based on Reason and the very motive behind Jesus’ killing. I invite you to read The Humanism of Philo to see what I mean: (p.11-15 on the document, p.12-16 on a pdf viewer): http://wlym.com/archive/campaigner/7812.pdf

This “kingdom of heaven” effect you are describing when talking about Rome is, in my opinion, something attractive. You used the word subjugation, albeit in practice that is correct, but it has a negative connotation I’m not sure I agree with.

That leads me to Canada again while we mention this, a little anecdote worth telling. Decades ago a golfing company purchased a plot of land from the federal government to expand its sporting area. The tricky part is the land they were claiming was an ancestral graveyard of an ancient Iroquois tribe. Needless to say the natives protested, and when the government demanded they clear the area (so that the company could raze down the graveyard) the natives rightfully took up arms. The canadian army was mobilized and for months there was a blockade and standoff between the two parties.

Words cannot describe the shame I felt, not just when the events were unfolding, but when I heard the opinion of my relatives and the general populace about it. Most people were openly demanding the army to just “kill em all” so that they might arrive 5 minutes sooner at their workplace. Absolutely abhorrent.

I could talk about this for a while but I will conclude here. I’ll take a look at the text you mentioned. Likewise if you want to treat yourself to some excellent reading about the pacific, try Pacific Worlds by Matt K. Matsuda. Very accessible even if you are a neophyte to this part of the world.

By the way, great to hear the intelligently spelled opinion of someone from Lebanon. Not something that happens often on this site.

I am a bit confused as I don’t recall making a reference to Rome and the “Kingdom of Heaven”. Otherwise, I think the way we interpret the meaning of subjugation is relative: 1) empires that imposed the adopted monotheistic religion wanted their people to subjugate/submit to the rule of God (God controlled everything; man and nature) versus 2) humanists sought to master the laws of nature (and thus their destiny in it) as they considered themselves the creative extension of God. The article on the The Humamisn of Philo covers a great deal about it.

For a second I thought your annecdote was the Oka crisis but I recall they were Mohawk and not Iroquois. Either way, I read many stories like the one you experienced involving Native lands and private companies wanting them for all sorts of lucrative projects. It is truly abberant. As if enough wasn’t already stolen. I understand you may not agree with it but religion was very much imposed on people. It once again boils down to what a religion really is and what the people make out of it.

I’ve noted the reading material by Matsuda. Thank you for it and your good words.

Actually you are right, they are precisely Mohawks, we just have a habit here of referring to them as the Iroquois since they were a confederacy, and my mind is busy with Iroquois history as I’ve been reading a great deal about their agriculture lately.

I’m surprised you’ve even heard of the Oka crisis at all. Quebec history is a very niche topic even to Canadians. I have to conclude you must have had an interest in native american lore.

I had relatives who lived in Montreal a while back. They told me about the Oka Crisis and its famous stand off.

What’s your take on Hezbollah? If I might ask.

Their demonization in the Western media and reality diverge. I like many in Lebanon (including a large potion of Christians) support their military stance against the Zionist State. Without them, the south of Lebanon (up to the Litani river (something the Zionists have wanted since the early 1900s)) would be what the Golan Heights is to Syria today: occupied. And that, when our ancient land spread on the shore and in-land down to Acre, present-day Israel.

Un article bien fait qui pourrait vous intéresser…

Un million d’esclaves blancs passés sous silence, et l’Algérie réclame réparation après la colonisation

https://www.agoravox.fr/tribune-libre/article/un-million-d-esclaves-blancs-211938

Je viens de le lire; merci pour partager. L’Algérie peut aller se recoucher.

Thierry Meyssan excellent comme d’habitude !

Les États-Unis créent les conditions de l’invasion du Venezuela https://www.voltairenet.org/article204845.html

Drôle de coïncidence. Je viens tout juste d’écrire un commentaire au sujet de Meyssan. Effectivement excellent.

Thats easy even a short version. When the Christians finally came into power they forbid all other religions and especially the ones, which not followed Nicea of 329.

Many, many many many were killed and many tryed to escape. For the Middle East jews and the wrong christians tryed to hide in the inner Minor Asia, the Persian parts of Syria as well as the Arabian Peninsula and Abbesinia.

The other options was to convert or being killed.

It was all religions – greek, roman, egytian, Ball.

No more free structures for anything and singles out of control. They did that cleaning several times.

Thats what I remember.

Agreed, with the rise of Christianity among conquering empires, anyone out of line was killed or subjugated.

Being pagan, I don’t think Greeks imposed such totalitarian grip on others. The same goes for the Phoenicians who were actually very open to other’s beliefs/faiths.

As for christianity and colonialism, again I agree and disagree. This discussion depends greatly on what each of us defines as “civilized”.

civilized adjective 1. at an advanced stage of social and cultural development. “a civilized society” synonyms: enlightened, educated, advanced, developed, cultured

In my opinion, compared to the accounts I’ve read of the pacific cultures before the arrival of christianity, I think there was a definite developement of literracy, life quality and social structure.

Now was that the fault of european connections, technology and ways of life being more advanced than the tribal, or truly was it about philosophy? Great things to ponder about, but this can go far.

Christianity wasn’t any different than Pharisaism (known today as Judaism) or Islam. As empires spread, so did the monotheistic cult/religion they followed. I wasn’t talking specifically about the Pacific region but in general. Contrary to the Western-centric narrative, there is no doubt that all of whom were called “uncivilized” were all developped relatively to their evolution.

Your ending questions applies equally to the Greeks and Romans learning from the Phoenicians, Egyptians, Persians, etc which eventually led to the emergence of Europe (which is named after Europa, daughter of Phoenician King Agenor).

Yes, remeber the backside of the moon. Times were diferent and still are. We have some great buildings here and was proud of them.

But today we know those was build or donated by slave money. They are stil very nice but kind of different.

I don’t know what you’re trying to say with “the backside of the moon” and what buildings you’re referring to.

A load of Crap

You are right about that. But we are some Years after Spains and Portugese divided North- and South America between them.

More relevent for me, how things are and should be connecting to 2019.

What I was telling has nothing to do with wight and black. It’s about what is promoted by Biblical project.

You read the bibles as You wish. And You forget, that most of the Christian world by its flexibility has been able to replace a lot of old things with sekularisme.

We are not like You. You copy You into the sekular-christian world. Our sekular laws are above the religios statements and proposals from old days.

Thats the biggest problem for many muslims in the West. They are not able to integrate because of Sharia telling we should kill and execute by throwing stones.

Thats promoted by Islam isnt it. Divorse and right divided by gender is same thing. It might have been a good idea many years ago, but today its certainly not.

We even heard loud voices around the first women in space named Valentina Tereskova, where some said, she 4 days a month probatly would bleed to death.

And what that: Thats mens world. It has nothing to do with religion unless You find verses for it and change them into, as You wish.

What do you mean to be “careful” and how is it an “outright lie tainted with propaganda”? While slavery existed long before the white men crawl out of its savage existence, they surely did pick up where precious civilizations left off.

You answered your own question. I did not say that white men did not practice slavery, I said they weren’t exclusive and arent to blame for its “invention”.

Feminists and “SJW” love to picture white men as the ultimate perpretator of the enslavement of anything non-european when in reality, it was in large parts made possible thanks to black warlords and jewish middlemen.

“Careful” because perpetuating the myth would be dishonest at best. Unless that is your goal.

My question was rethicial but thanks for clarifying.

Can’t agree more on the distortions and propaganda brought forth by the Tavistockian likes of feminists, SJW et al. groups.

Glad we agree.

And it’s quite alright if we don’t. What matters is to conduct an intelligent discussion where we can learn from each other.

A lot is ignored. Fx the slaves from Africa mainly was catched by black tribes to the whites. By that those blacks could by things and among them guns.

Slavery as a consept has little to do with skin color.

Agreed. Never implied otherwise.

Thats not correct. It has for the atlantic Europeran trade and very much. But true many others in the world are and becomes slaves by power and tradition.

Pakisyan almost has slavery implemented in Islam made as needed integrated with Hindu traditions and we find many versions around the world.

Skin do count. We see that in Saudi arabia too. Genes say, they prefared men and especially women with light skin. Its prestige to have light skin there as well as You find i many places in the world.

Muslims also do that by nationality. Thats why we again and again see people start to ask others for nationality. Somalis, Palestinians and some parts of Pakistanis are third class.

Whatver they show of knowledge, they are knocked down if they have a low life last name.

So be carefull in those traditions. You can build as well as take down those traditions.

I partly agree. So many years without slavery should not be an excuse for all behavings and people being as they are.

But he and hypocritic muslims are like that. Whatever they never try to change is explained by Jews, Christians, sekalrisme, western, western economics.

Some might think they are like our children mainly not being allowed to decide anything apart from kind of candy now and then.

I have asked several muslims if they would not learn more from us and at least copy us. Its a NO. I also have asked if they would like to be countries of ours – again – it would be an improvement for many, when they dont like the chaos, which them mainly make themselves.

I wonder when I see our many muslim emmigrants. Many are very good cleaners. So has the cleaners emmigrants with that talent left fx Syria ?

now whose the ignorant jack off?

fuck off transgender Greek in skirt you as usual don’t have clue about anything

yes jack off what ever you say.

First of all I’m not atheist :) I just don’t need mediators (official church) that use people’s inherent urge towards divine sourse in order to control those people. Regarding Historically established Christianity opposing Judaizm – how about Old Testiment? Catholic church and their inverted cross over pope’s throne? There are many things I could tell you about this matters but I’m not in the mood for religeous disputes. I will only add one quote “Many trust in God, but very few trust God”(c)

Being Orthodox you can’t sell the pope , inverted cross accusation to me?!? “how about Old Testiment” WHAT ? ! Are you saying that Christ teachings were not based on total NEGATION of practicing Judaism ?!?!

He was CRUCIFIED for that what bigger proof do you need?! And Christ was not crucified only for being against form but also being against substance of Judaic faith. Jesus was WALKING ALL OVER EVERYTHING Jews considered sacred or important . The list is very long but to mention the few only. He was declaring that FAITH, forgiveness, and repenting one sins are only important . The prayer with humility and not not Jewish rituals and scarifying animals without serving to God. He was calling himself Son of God which was the worst blasphemy for the Jews. He was declaring NON Jews worthy of all Jew privileges and Paradise and thus NEGATING exclusiveness of Gods blessing upon Jews! That also was considered a pure blasphemy Etc. tec………

You kind of mixing Christ teachings with historically established Christianity as we have it now. What we have in the Bible is a twisted in many ways version which as I said promotes usury and slavery. I do respect your religeous feelings and I agree that Orthodox churche is much closer to Gods will than Catholic church. But it doesn’t change my understanding what Biblical project is about and that has nothing to do with God and Christ teachings. Regarding 10 commandments – are you aware that subconscius mind doesn’t understand the worlds “No”, “Don’t” i.e. negatives? Biblical project handlers knew/know very well how complex social supersystems are governed.

Your “understanding what Biblical project is” was not subject of this conversation at all. I’m not at all interested in that subject. Only thing that interest me are these (yours) words:

“Christianity is nothing other than export version “for goyim” of Jeudaizm”

Those words affect my religious feelings I find them disrespectful, a slander for which I haven’t herd any explanation yet..

I do not question your personal believes I am not even interested in them. All I want to know what is the logical explanation behind those words?! And what is the Biblical, Historic or whatever argument behind them? How is “Christianity export version “for goyim”of Judaism”?! PLEASE answer that if you will?

Jaco, patience is not my strongest aspect but I will try my best. First, you are trying to exclude parts of my posts. I was saying that historically established Christianity is an export “for goyim use” version of Judaizm. What it means is that what we have now has little to do with actual Christ teachings. That’s my opinion based on knowledge. The fact that Old Testament is still included says it all. Reread it and pay attention to Deuteronomy 23 20 among other parts. Also I tried to explain to you the thing about 10 commandments and in which form they are presented but you ignore it. I will try to explain – if intentions were positive than it would say respect and preserve the life of others insteed of don’t kill etc. Subconscious mind doesn’t understand negatives – that’s a well known fact. In those ancient times very few knew about such social technologies What I’m criticizing is not about faith but about how it is abused in order to promote things opposite to actual Gods will. I’m not denying positive things about some (past and present) members of church and I’m not blind about terrible deeds of others. Things are not black and white but one should be able to see wide picture without being mental slave to rituals and dogma’s. It all comes down to personal conscience and level of awareness. If it offends your religious feelings than I’m sorry – that wasn’t my intention. But that would not change what I know and understand.

No need to apologize. I should apologize ! OK so all in all it was problem in my miss readings? Or miss understandings and miss interpretations? It is true that I (wrongly) took that as an attack on my Orthodox faith. In that case if we basically agree that it wasn’t your intention no point continue talking about it. I am sorry Mirron that I was hasty in reading your texts!

It is true that I do that often simply because I don’t have much time to do it properly BTW Christianity was created as opposed to the “dogma’s” I don’t want to be above Orthodox church to judge present situation…

Are we OK now? I hope yes. Take care!

PS Can you tell me please why am I only idiot here on this forum to defend Russia and I am not even Russian?! I am starting seriously to be fed up with that situation….really

We’re fine and OK :) I would say that there are many more defending Russia here (me included). But there is a problem – often I see that due to personal temperament, desire “to be right” and other actually insignificant differences people that are on the same side start arguing and even insulting each other. That’s something that actual enemies (real “zio trolls” and their handlers) are very happy to see. It means that their “divide and conquer” agenda is working for them. That’s why I always suggest to look at larger picture and refrain from impulsive urge to answer seemingly offensive posts right away. It might be better to take a small pause, get thoughts together and bring a message in a way that brings understanding of our point and finds a way to reconcile the differences (I agree that some are irreconcilable but that’s happens rarely). There are some simply degenerate and some real enemies of humanity but most are normal ordinary people and we should find points that unite us rather than divide.

Google? Evangelical Christians have traditionally been strong supporters of Israel and the Jewish people. Their support can no longer be taken for granted. There is now a strong movement to undermine evangelical support for Israel – and it is gaining momentum. From https://www.evangelicalzionism.com/blog/2016/1/1/part-i-evangelicals-changing-sides

Christian Zionism -Wikipedia (go for reference books) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

Evangelicals and Israel: The Story of American Christian Zionism https://www.amazon.com/Evangelicals-Israel-American-Christian-Zionism/dp/0195368029

Evangelicals and Global Christian Zionism https://providencemag.com/2018/02/evangelicals-global-christian-zionism-israel/

Scofield Bible?

ZIONISM was endemic to US “Christians” but it has nothing to do with Christianity or Bible..

Thanks, no doubt about it now. I dont think this has anything to do with christianity in the end, its just some autistic cult for jewish bootlicks.

You probably didn’t read it so I’ll copy paste again to you:

“ZIONISM was endemic to US “Christians” but it has nothing to do with Christianity or Bible..” ——————————- Lets say that as idea ZIONISM was “born” as cuckoo egg in Christian nest where Christian egg was thrown out and has replaced Christianity into travesty Christianity with only purpose to service to Judaism

So it is bit little bit too simplistic to call it “autistic cult for jewish bootlicks”

I read that, but what i meant was that it has little to do with the fundamental principles of christianity per say. Evengelicals can preach about “biblical zionism” all they want, but that will never turn me into an atheist. The fact that there are christian zionists doesnt spoil the philosophy of christ for me, is what i mean.

It should not. Those religios manipulatios seen here has made me into a very hardheaded non religios.

Zionism related with with freemason whose basic is Judaism from Solomon Temple I build around 1000 BC.

More exactly Freemasonry has its origin from “Talmud” (Rabbinic orally transmitted tradition, today’s Judaism) which many ignorantly confound with Hebrew written “Torah” a true Semite Judaism. Just like Freemasonry the “Talmud” is much closer to Satan than to God.

Yeah. We could say Torah is the first bible, consisting of the 5 books of Moses.

It was forbidden to speak the text and forbidden to write the oral explanation. But because Jews were banned from Jerusalem they became afraid of losing the oral part why it was written down and constantly revised.

I have however some problem in understanding the jump from Moses in 1500 BC speaking paleo-hebrew to the first found scriptures in 1000 BC of Moses books written in Masoretic by all other people than Moses??

Then there is endless versions and additions until the first Torah was written and collected in Greek in 300-200 BC.

Sorry, I can’t answer that question Tommy. That goes far abowe my knowledge on that subject.

We all have. Hard to decriebe a country having only 5 newspapers from it pr year.

Christinaity has same problems not even having any real facts about Jesus and his father and mother as well as Magdalena.

Even so 2,2 bio. believes most of it in head lines. So focus for You might be headlines in stead of gaps.

No, we can’t. The “Hebrew” Bible is based (as in plagiarized) on the Ugaritic Bible. The discovery of the 2000+ Ugaritic tablets written in cuneiform discovered at Ras Shamra (present-day Syria, ancient Ugarit) attest of that.

Aside from being entirelymythical, the “Hebrew” Bible is pseudopigrapha. Moses is a mythical character invented by the Ptolemaic leaders of Egypt who wanted to replace the Persian minister in Canaan, Ezra. It was also the Ptolemies who invented the so-called Exodus from Egypt to Canaan. The “Law of Moses” is in reality the Hammurabi Code.

The fallacious “Paleo-Hebrew” terminology was invented in the 1950s by a cunning Yiddish linguist (Solomon Birbaum) to ecplise the real origin and terminology: Canaanite and/or Phoenician.Birbaum even said:

“To apply the term Phoenician to the script of the Hebrews is hardly suitable”. Still, the script is nearly identical to the Phoenician script.”

Why “hardly suitable” if they are “nearly identical”? Because the Zionist slime needed to support their newly created Jewish identity. “Hebrew” – both in language and script/alphabet – is Canaanite/Phoenician.

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Ther we go again.

The biggest problem is, that Zionisme isnt wide spread as You declaire, declaime and like that.

If anything is widespread its muslims in the ME and other places hardly knowing anything of Islam and the rest of the world.

Zionism has its equivalent in the Middle East: it’s called the Muslim Brotherhood. Coincidentally, both were created by the British Empire.

Incorrect, Freemasonry has its origins in the Phoenicians of Tyre and the Eygptian Mysteries (which the Greeks picked up as the Dionysian Mysteries and the Romans as the Bacchus Mysteries).

Freemasonry and Christianity both have the same origin in worship: the Sun. The association between Freemasonry and Satan (worship of Baphomet) is a Church construct that started after the Knights Templar returned from Jerusalem in order to get rid of the as they represented a threat.

Nothing was every orally transmitted through generations. That is a nonsensical, unfounded myth. The “Hebrew” Bible is plagiarized the Canaanite religion after vilifying it – the discovery of the 2000+ Ugaritic tablets at Ras Shamra (present day Syria, ancient Ugarit) attest of that. Yawheh who was a demi-god in the Canaanite religon magically became The God in the “Hebrew” religion – and not through an evolutionary type of way. Both the Divine Law (Tankah/Torah) and the Civil Law (Talmud) were concocted by the Persian conquerors of Canaan to destroy the polytheistic beliefs and replace them with a monotheistic cult (Pharisaism, known today as Judaism). There is a reason why there is no Jewish/Israelite/Hebrew religions books or anything prior to the Persian being in Canaan. It’s also worth noting that Hebrew, both in language and script/alphabet was Canaanite.

Many supposes are possible. If any try to plant eggs, its You.

Like putting garbage in the sea is a good idea, bacause it make the coast eroding waves smaller.

I will send some glue, so they can fold their hands and keep them there. I dont see the relations – more like Stalin and Churchill to me or like 4 countries agains kurds, so they should have no more selfrule.

Its not for the reasons, You write about. It seemes You have forgotten that Jesus and the others actually lived there too.

Even Muhammed went to heaven from there. Thats why muslims want Jerusalem back too.

BTW Pence and Pompeo are ZIONIST Evangelical Christians

Another excuse for wars in the Middle East. Very good, You if You send it in, You probatly will get the Nobel price.

Saudis cut his hands and feet. Its like that: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/becc568c1547fd89528bf86eb49f6e6c0e852bac61ea8eae61b4af88cd6ac193.jpg

The brown part is for not contaminating others.

I have some contentious views regarding both Christianity and Islam that might offend people who believe in these religions. I’ve already been blocked by one such believer here on South Front for sharing my thoughts in this regard so I’m hesitant about being too open about my views when it’s not necessary. Let’s just say in my opinion the mainstream historical beliefs regarding these two religions are inaccurate and incomplete. Both of these religions are based on Judaism and with the case of Christianity it is not even disputed that it was a Jewish creation from the very beginning (Jesus himself was a Rabbi). Yes I believe Jews had a hand in the creation, development, and disintegration of Christianity. This doesn’t mean their influence was complete and total but you will find their trace and potential motives at every step along the way.

I think the winner is kind of Arameans partly inspred like someone like Hammurabi had a lot odf semilar inspired scriptts in the Aramean zone. They were like stories told from generation to genration with local modefications. Some scripts were popular and all over. Orthers were of a more local kind.

So the 3 religions was taken from that “Library” based on aramean scrpting. At the time of Jesus, he probatly most have spoken that languge, it said.

So Muhammed much later didnt get his versions mainly from Jews and Christians but from that Library.

Of course he did his own version. Fx they changed the ¨holyday to fridays as well as they in the first years prayed towards Jerusalem, where the chimney for him was too.

I dont see You are incoorect in Your version of jews. Its true Jews had hard times and instead of making more jews by birth, they a longer period were missionairies. Kind of.

Being a missionary having succes, You have to sell the best part of the product as well as telling the bad sides of Christinanity (and Baal).

By that version of mine, they would counterattack by possible modifications.

It was hard times in main Jewish part. The Jewish vasal king was a terible person killing even his wife, brothers and children in an unstabile enviroment.

Jew or not relles me, there were many kinds trying to find the truth in Governess as well as religion. We also had Johannes Baptizer now burried in hos own litle Church in Damaskus.

And it went bad – very bad – by Romans for bad and good reasons. Some might remember many jews were outside the area we see they are today. Many even was deported several times and didnt prefare to come back.

It can be kind of as today. There hardly was jews in Israel of today in the times of ottomans, they were in the cities and many was at the Balkans and by that in Konstantinople.

The socalled promised land for them was land, where they by hard work and knowæedge and education could live well – aprt from the poor conditions in Eastern Europe with the hardliner Catholics.

I don’t hink you should hold back your views and opinion simply because one person (likely a zealot) disagreed with you. The creation and development of both Christianity and Islam were definitely influenced by what preceeded them; and it was not just Pharisaism (known today as Judaism). The Egyptian Mysteries (later picked up by the Phoenicians of Tyre under King Hiram and later the Greeks as the Dionysian Mysteries and by the Romans as the Bacchus Mysteries (all of which vagely put encompassed the worship of the Sun)) also played a crucial role.

Additionally, the “Hebrew” Bible has its roots (as in plagiariged) the pagan Canaanite religion. Yawheh, a demi-god in the Canaanite religion didn’t become The God in the “Hebrew” religion in an evolutionary type of sense but through vilification process of the Canaanite religion.

The most important things for sanes was, that the Pope wasnt the upper one anymore. We could behave as Country. That was supported well by tranlation of all religios scripts, so alt least the ones. which could read, could read that.

Thanks to Gutheberg as well.

Thats not complete and only partly correct. The big change came in Nicea in 329, where it by majority-voting was decided, that Jesus was 2 – a Man and a God.

So many could not eat that and it made it much easier for Islam to spread out having only one Muhammed and no mixted person.

The way the Gospels and Jesus are protrayed in the Bible may have very well been invented for ideological reasons but there was a mouvement in Jerusalem (the one instigated by Philo of Alexandria) that had mades allies within the Pharisaic establishment (the Pharisee Tarsus for instance became St-Paul) and that threatened the oligarchical grip the Pharisees and Romans enjoyed. The rampage of the land by the Jewish extremists known as Zealots in mostly attacking/killing Romans – which eventually led to the civil war – was to thwart that mouvement.

The British Empire stopped being British soon after Oliver Cromwell committed regicide. Shortly after that event the Jews became an integral part of the “British” elite, a position they continue to occupy to this very day. If you do a bit more digging into the actions of the “British” Empire you will find out that many such actions were not done on behest of any Christian Anglo Saxon. I’ll give you one quick example: The Chinese-“British” opium wars were fought on behest of the Iraqi Jewish Sassoon family who were shipping opium into China and profiting from the misery of the Chinese people.

The British Empire being “Jewish” and/or “Jews” being behind it all is a controlled opposition narrative aimed at keeping the real culprits in the shadow. That is not to say that Jewish oligarchies have not involved in many of the cunning maleovance the world has endured for the past centuries.

The British Empire was/is the continuation of the Venetian Empire following the War of Cambrai that heavily weakened Venice after their fondi moved north to form the strength of the Bank of Amsterdam in the 17th century and layer the Bank of England in the 18th century. The return of Jews (King Edward I expelled in 1290) under Oliver Crowell wasn’t coincidental but a result of him being a Venetian agent.

During the first phase of the civil war, (1642-1646), there emerged two factions among the Parliamentarian Roundheads. A more conservative group favored a limited, defensive war against Charles I, followed by a negotiated peace. They hoped to defeat Charles by using a foreign army, preferably the Scottish one, in order to avoid arming the English lower orders. The Scots demanded for England a Presbyterian state church on the model of their own kirk – run by synods of Calvinist elders – but that was what the majority of the Long Parliament wanted anyway. So this faction came to be called the Presbyterians. Among them were the Calvinist town oligarchy of London.

The other group wanted total war and eventually the execution of the King and the end of the monarchy and the House of Lords. This group was willing to accept a standing army of sectarian religious fanatics in order to prevail. This group was called the Independents or Congregationalists. They were favored by Venice. Oliver Cromwell emerged as the leader of this second group.

Oliver Cromwell was a Venetian agent. Prominent in Oliver Cromwell’s family tree was the widely hated Venetian agent Thomas Cromwell (1485-1540), Earl of Essex and the author of Henry VIII’ s decision to break with Rome and found the Church of England. Oliver Cromwell (1599-1658) was descended from Thomas Cromwell’s sister. Oliver Cromwell’s uncle had married the widow of the Genoese- Venetian financier Sir Horatio Pallavicini.

This widow brought two children by her marriage to Pallavicini and married them to her own later Cromwell children. So the Cromwell family was intimately connected to the world of Venetian finance. One of the leading figures of Parliament, John Hampden, was Oliver Cromwell’s cousin. Cromwell’s home was in the Fens, the large swamp in eastern England. The swamp- dwelling Venetians, true to form, came to choose another swamp- dweller as their prime asset of the moment.

Webster G. Tarpley, Against Oligarchy

Most welcome. I’ll send you a list of reading shortly. Have to dig through some notes.

Too clean to be familyy of Yours… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ff022390c1857d2a208b8c99d5b120fca3a4638ac78c5a0e3171ceb58a804dd1.jpg

I didn’t share this for you or anyone to believe it. It’s up to you to read, research and cross-examine to form your own opinion. British Israelism and the subsequent philosophical, governmental, and geopolitical results/consequences that derived from it are very much historical and thus, verifiable.

KGBDonald’s chronological depiction is accurate but not the uncovering of the real culprits.

I invite your to peruse/read Webster Tarpley’s Against Oligarchy to understand how the ruling class of Venice was behind the Protestant and Lutherian Reformations (to divide Europe through wars), the rise of the banks of Amsterdam/England and the creation of the British Empire which later morphed into the Anglo-American Empire.

Against Oligarchy by Webster Tarpley http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/

The Anglo-American Empire by Caroll Quigley http://www.carrollquigley.net/books.htm

1. Problem is with both. There is no Zionism without Judaism. Zionism is not the only problem with Judaism. 2. No it’s not kike. Nations belonging to one ethnic group was literally the original definition of a nation until you kikes started changing it after World War 2. You’re the delusional one because you’re going against thousands of years of human development, identity, and self preservation instincts.

U r an idiot

110 and Never Again

Our Primary minister say this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSP00POPTAQ

You are the same commenter that in recent posts has claimed to be both a Bosnian Muslim refugee and yet also a Turkish Kurdish refugee. So either you are a fantasist – or multiple people are posting under that account with highly inconsistent claims as a result.

I never has done any of that. I see none “copies” of me as well.

You might try to better safety on Your internet or improve Your reading or translating a lot.

You might check the numbers of comments. A copy will not have 45.296 but probatly much, much lower.

The English language usage on your posts varies wildly from day to day – from competent to unreadable. Your avatar team needs a consistency workshop…