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Clinton’s “No-Fly Zone” over Syria Will Not “Save Lives”. It Will Lead to War with Russia. Warning of JCS Chairman General Dunford

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Clinton’s “No-Fly Zone” over Syria Will Not “Save Lives”. It Will Lead to War with Russia. Warning of JCS Chairman General Dunford

Written by Prof Michel Chossudovsky; Originally appeared at Globalresearch

The media has failed to address the confrontation between the U.S. State Department and the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Joseph Francis Dunford (image right) has warned both the US Senate as well Secretary of State John Kerry in no uncertain terms that a “No Fly Zone” over Syria would lead to war with both Syria and Russia, intimating a dangerous process of military escalation.

Clinton’s “No-Fly Zone” over Syria Will Not “Save Lives”. It Will Lead to War with Russia. Warning of JCS Chairman General DunfordIn a Senate Arms Services Committee hearing, Dunford said, responding to questions from Republican Senator Roger Whicker (Mississippi)

“Right now, Senator, for us to control all of the airspace in Syriait would require us to go to war, against Syria and Russia,… That’s a pretty fundamental decision that certainly I’m not going to make.” (Senate Armed Services Committee,September 22, 2016, emphasis added)

At the third presidential debate, Hillary Clinton reasserted her commitment that if elected president, she would implement a no-fly-zone, intimating that the objective was to “save lives”:

“I think a no-fly zone could save lives and could hasten the end of the conflict. I am well aware of the really legitimate concerns you have expressed from both the president and the general,” Clinton said in response to a question from Fox News debate moderator Chris Wallace.

“This would not be done just on the first day. This would take a lot of negotiation and would also take making it clear to the Russians and Syrians that our purpose here was to provide safe zones on the ground … I think we could strike a deal and make it clear to the Russians and the Syrians that this was something that we believe was in the best interest of the people on the ground in Syria.” (Fox News, emphasis added)

Clinton’s “No-Fly Zone” over Syria Will Not “Save Lives”. It Will Lead to War with Russia. Warning of JCS Chairman General Dunford

At present, under the Obama administration, the joint chiefs of staff are opposed to the “No Fly zone”.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff are appointed by the Secretary of Defense.

Under a Clinton presidency, a new Secretary of Defense as well as a new Chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, firmly committed to “A No fly Zone” over Syria would be appointed.

Michèle Angelique Flournoy, a former Under Secretary of Defense for Policy is Hillary’s choice for the position of Secretary of Defense, who favors the “No Fly Zone” option.

According to Defense One:  ”The woman expected to run the Pentagon under Hillary Clinton said she would direct U.S. troops to push President Bashar al-Assad’s forces out of southern Syria and would send more American boots to fight the Islamic State in the region.”    

Clinton’s “No-Fly Zone” over Syria Will Not “Save Lives”. It Will Lead to War with Russia. Warning of JCS Chairman General DunfordConfirmed by the Leaked Emails Michele Flournoy is a crony of the Clintons. She has “called for“limited military coercion” to help remove Assad from power in Syria, including a “no bombing” zone over parts of Syria held by U.S.-backed rebels.” This is tantamount to a no fly zone to protect the terrorists including ISIS Daesh from actions by Syrian and Russian forces.

According to Defense One:

Flournoy, and several of her colleagues at the Center for New American Security, or CNAS, have been making the case for sending more American troops into combat against ISIS and the Assad regime than the Obama administration has been willing to commit.Since Russia’s increased involvement, the facts on the ground in Syria, she said, “Do not support the kind of negotiated conditions we would like to get to.” U.S. policy should be the removal of Assad even if that meant “using limited military coercion,” Flournoy said, at Monday’s annual CNAS conference in Washington.

Flournoy did not deny the entire report that she favors increased U.S. intervention; for instance, she acknowledged her support for U.S. “strikes using standoff weapons — to retaliate against Syrian military targets” to enforce the no-bomb zone.

The press reports, however, did not quote the details of the discussion and testimony of General Dunford and Secretary of Defense Carter at the Arms Services Committee Hearing:

Let me see if the Chairman wants to add anything.

Senator Wicker: Well, let me just ask this, if you don’t mind, Secretary Carter. It would help if the barrel bombing ended. And I spoke to a Democratic colleague of  mine today. I’ve been calling for a no-fly zone to stop the  barrel bombing, and I asked this colleague of mine on the other side of the aisle if he would support that. And he said, “Yes.” He said, “I want to call it something else, rather than a no-fly zone,” but that this particular Senator it is a fact that this particular Senator has now changed his position and would like us to take action to present — to prevent the barrel bombing.

What is your position about that? And wouldn’t it help if we took decisive action and ended this carnage?

 Secretary Carter: I don’t know the specific proposal  which you’re discussing with your colleague. I’ll make one comment and see if the Chairman wants to add anything.

Senator Wicker: I think he was talking about a no-fly  zone –

Secretary Carter: Well, okay.

Senator Wicker: — but described in more palatable terms.

Secretary Carter: There are — a number of different proposals have been made, but I — the one that I think it the focus on right now is the one Secretary Kerry’s trying to promote, namely a no-fly zone for the Russians and the Syrians who are attacking the Syrian people. If they’re talking about a no-fly zone for American aircraft fighting ISIL, needless to say, that — that’s not going to get any enthusiasm, get strong opposition from me.

Senator Wicker: I’m speaking about a –

Secretary Carter: But, I think that’s what a — but — it’s not called that, but Secretary Kerry is trying to get a standdown of the Syrian and Russian air force. And if he’s successful, that would be a good thing.

Let me ask the Chairman if he has anything to add.

General Dunford: Senator, the only thing I’d say is, you know, as the situation on the ground changes, I think I have a responsibility — we, the joint force, has a responsibility — to make sure the President has a full range of options. We have discussed that issue in the past under certain conditions. The conditions on the ground will change, and we’ll continue to look at those options and make sure they’re available to the President.

Senator Wicker: What about the option of controlling the airspace so that barrel bombs cannot be dropped?

General Dunford: All options –

Senator Wicker: What do you think of that option, sir?

General Dunford: Right now, Senator, for all of the airspace in Syria, it would require war against Syria and Russia. That’s a pretty fundamental decision that certainly I’m not going to make.

Clinton’s “No-Fly Zone” over Syria Will Not “Save Lives”. It Will Lead to War with Russia. Warning of JCS Chairman General Dunford

Concluding Remarks

From the above testimonies and statements, one thing is clear. Decision-makers at highest levels of the US government and the military believe in their own propaganda. They are not able to reflect on their actions outside the realm of propaganda. And this also applies to nuclear warfare which is  presented as a “peace-making operation”.

It is unlikely that any drastic action regarding a “no fly zone” will be taken under the Obama administration prior to the November elections and the instatement of a new president of the US in January 2017.

Consequently, the next three months will be absolutely crucial for Syria. –i.e. During this period, the counterterrorism campaign waged by Syria with the support of Russia and Iran will seek to eliminate remaining terrorist pockets and pacify the entire country.

The foot-soldiers of the Western military alliance will be defeated on the ground. If this objective is achieved, it will inevitably have an impact on “US options” regarding the proposed deployment of ground-forces and the No Fly Zone. What prevails, however, is an attempt on the part of Washington to redeploy its ISIS terrorist foot-soldiers in Mosul by transferring them from Iraq to Syria.

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888mladen .

Hilary has chosen Madelaine Albright out of her tremendous concern for Aleppo children and their well-being. It will be worth it again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bntsfiAXMEE

Igor Ochocinszk

Nobody is afraid of Clinton, people are afraid of beasts out of bounds of humanity that clinton will appoint to positions of immense power.

Barbarossa296

Albright is the poster child for why women are NOT any more sympathetic to the innocent than are men. She should be high on the list of people to be hung from a lamppost if the opportunity ever presents itself.

Barbarossa296

The problem is that the psychotic neocons that inhabit Washington, D.C. actually believe that they can pull off a nuclear first strike against Russia and/or China with minimal retaliation. What makes it even more dangerous is that they may see that their “window of opportunity” for carrying out such a strike closing and may decide to do it while they still can. With a new financial crisis looming and client states slipping away, they may decide the time is now or never.

Joseph Scott

On the bright side, I happen to believe that JCS and the theatre commanders are vastly less enthusiastic about such an endeavour than the political establishment. It’s been said that Mattis was asked to retire because he was disinclined to take on Iran when at Central Command. Not because he had any like for Iran, but simply because he considered it militarily unworkable, given forces available. Dempsey brought up prrof that Ghouta wasn’t Assad to dissuade action against Syria. Dunford looked a little incredulous when he had to explain that a No-Fly Zone meant war with Russia, and he wasn’t prepared to endorse that.

The irony is that the Defense Department has managed, through the creation of the Zero Defect Mentality, and it’s interaction with the legacy of Vietnam and the idealistic notions people often have when they join, to get flag officers who are utterly disinterested in war with peer adversaries. There is no money in it, so to speak. One you get a star, you can expect at least one more, and then at the minimum a lucrative talking circuit, or a position in the vast defense-industry liaison establishment, or an executive VP position with some defence contractor, if you want it.

But what do you get for fighting a war with a peer adversary? Fame? Fortune? Promotion? None of that. You know that you will end up despised by the public for fighting a war whose butcher’s bill is well above their tolerance, and you will probably be presiding over the wholesale destruction of your command, as every attempt to game such situations has predicted. And of course, if you cause the collapse of civilisation and Nuclear Winter, that makes the potential promotion and retirement moot anyway. The days of yore where officers were often hot-headed ‘gentlemen” who wanted to ‘prove themselves’ in the face of death, who could toast to war breaking out and mean it, is long gone. That culture died somewhere between 1917 and 1972.

Imagine the ripple-effect in the military establishment, even just inside the corridors of the Pentagon if, say, the Chairman and then the Vice Chairman suddenly promoted to Chairman resigned because they had no inclination to carry out their orders? I don’t think that scenario is so unlikely in the event of orders involving an unprovoked attack on our nuclear peer adversary. It might even get better than that. Do you remember when Westmoreland issued an order to US military commands worldwide that they were no longer to follow orders from the White House upon receipt of this order, at the end of the Nixon presidency? Nobody will risk their career for a few thousand or million foreigners, but global thermonuclear war kind of takes away your incentive to give a damn about careers, chains of command, arrest and the like. Most military people I’ve known would back their superiors over some politician in a heartbeat, if ever asked to make that choice.

slorter

Imposing a no fly zone would have been done long ago but they do not control the skies over Syria Russia does!

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