The F-35s during the Elephant Walk. IMAGE: U.S. Air Force photo by R. Nial Bradshaw
On January 6, the U.S. Air Force conducted the “Elephant Walk” exercise involving the launch of 52 fighter jets from a Utah air base. According to reports, Hill Air Force Base launched the F-35A Lightning II jets over a 10-minute period around 11 a.m.
The 388th and 419th Fighter Wings conducted the drill that sent the jets west to the Utah Test and Training Range to perform various missions.
“Today’s exercise marks the accomplishment of over four years of work — a little over four years ago, we received our first F-35,” Col. Michael Ebner, 388th Wing vice commander, told the Deseret News. “We now have our full complement of aircraft and locally, we turn this into a goal of full war-fighting capability.”
Today we launched about 50 F-35s in rapid succession. Part of a long-planned combat power exercise with @388fw, we pushed the boundaries and tested our Airmen’s ability to deploy @thef35 en masse. We’re ready to fly, fight, and win. @usairforce @USAFReserve @USAF_ACC pic.twitter.com/QskjR6lsch
— 419th Fighter Wing (@419fw) January 6, 2020
Practice makes perfect ⚡⚡.
What an awesome first day of practice over Utah @HAFB.
We'll be practicing all week so stay tuned for more imagery!@thef35 #AimHigh #airforce #fighterjet #military #f35demoteam #F35 #lightningii #airshow #aviationphotography #aviation pic.twitter.com/yOAZLait3g
— F-35A Demonstration Team (@F35demoteam) January 7, 2020
This drill followed the January 4 remarks by President Donald Trump in which he claimed that the US had targeted 52 Iranian sites, including important for the Iranian culture, that it would strike if Iran attacks any Americans or any U.S. asset in response to the assassination of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani on January 3.
Now if this didn’t scare the Iranians, nothing will! (sarcasm)
It’s a shame you need the sarcasm tag, otherwise Bob and Jake321 would be up-voting you :)
The F35’s will be in the maintenance hangers for a few days after that exercise :)
1 iranian missile with cluster warhead and bye-bye F-35)))
52 F-35’s…. Al you need is 52 birds……
And 21 hours of maintenance time per aircraft. In a war they’d struggle to participate fully after the first sortie.
Lol.
Absolutely nothing is going to scare Iran now, you are already at war with them trump, you didn’t stop any war
Good thing it wasn’t raining in Utah when they were flying.
Raining or not, The Russians have provided Iran with radars that see these flies. Struna1.
Good thing the steaming piles of shit can barely fly
So what happens if the US launches a strike on Iran in response to an Iranian response to the recent assassination?
Will it be the Iraq wars all over again where Iraq launches a few missiles that do little damage, or does Iran have the capability to sink ships, destroy airfields and the aircraft on them, and destroy US launch systems and bases in the Gulf rendering them largely inoperable?
On paper it looks like Iran has that capability. How effective it is against dated and unproven US equipment is unknown.
Beyond a certain threshold an interruption in global oil supply will begin to result in widespread famine on a global basis. Similar to the peak oil scenarios. But more sudden. The 5% reduction from the recent strike on Saudi Arabia wasn’t sufficient to do it. A major war in the Gulf resulting in a 20% reduction might cross the threshold to initiate famine.
Even if the closure of the Gulf doesn’t result in famine. It would result in an oil price spike that would cause a 2008 type financial crisis or worse. Which would probably result in Trump’s impeachment or losing the 2020 election.
Iran has, by far, the most effective conventional missile force in the Middle East. They not only have strong air defense capabilities, they have a range of surface to surface missiles to deal with war ships and land targets.
Iraq had similar capabilities on paper. And they were easily shut down and overrun. Whether Iran’s are any better I don’t know.
Iraq was fought by US airforce during the no fly zone period, when almost all air defense systems were destroyed. Iran is a different scenario, especially considering the range of Iranian rockets. Due to this range only attacks with balistic missiles or cruise missiles would be possible. But the ad capability of Iran is not known, which does not allow to predict the success rate of such strikes.
They have S-300.
No i dont think they did in the first gulf war Saddam fired scuds at isreal by the time of the second invasion they had nothing left they were basically disarmed
Iraq did not have anything like the capabilities of Iran. Iran also has logistics support from Russia and, probably, China.
Also, Iraq is a new, “synthetic” state. Iran is one of the oldest and most revered cultures on Earth. That means a LOT to how the people respond in crisis. Lastly, Iraq was “led” by a dissolute, corrupt Saddam – a US puppet who had gone “rogue” and was despised by the Iraqi people, who were a hodgepodge of tribes thrown together at the convenience of Westerners.
Again, Iran is the opposite.
Iraq on paper during Sadam was formidable. That was 30 years ago. It was also after an 8 year war with Iran. So equipment in inventory was not in the best shape. There was also only a very short air war followed by an almost immediate invasion. That makes a big difference. There’s no place to invade Iran from other than the sea. And maybe a small front in Kuwait. Who I’m sure want to stay out of it.
So while Iraq had significant air defense and surface to surface missiles and a respectable air force for the time. It’s apples and oranges because of the ground invasion factor. A lot of Iraq’s capability was taken down from the ground invasion, not an air campaign.
The US inventory isn’t much different now than it was 30 years ago. Whereas Iran has modernized. So that also makes a difference. If the US had modernized like the Russians and Chinese. Then the US to Iran match up would look similar to the US to Iraq match up 30 years ago.
But as the Saudi debacle and this episode is now making clear. The US can’t even stop a limited Iranian missile barrage. Let alone a massive campaign throughout the Gulf.
All very true.
The Iranian people also seem to have more cohesion and are not easily fooled by US propaganda. Recent orchestrated riots have gone nowhere and were quelled very quickly. As opposed to Iraq, Libya, and now Hong Kong. I guess regime change is dependent on how infiltrated a country is.
The Iranians are the best educated people in the ME. It’s extremely difficult even for Mossad to keep operatives there – impossible for the CIA.
Yea they sent a few long range missiles into Iraq and Syria against Isis targets a while ago and most reports on they’re accuracy weren’t that great the reports i got could be wrong though
Given evaluations of missile systems known to be in Iran’s arsenal and the fact that a retired US general was on TV tonight attesting to the extreme accuracy of Iranian ballistic missile systems, I don’t think that the Iranians have anything to worry about in that respect.
Yea they definately have enough firepower to make life very difficult if not impossible for the Americans in the middle east.
The cause of 2008 crisis was bubble in the USA home credit market, not oil. The oil prices dropped later.
They peaked in June of 2008 at $165.00/barrel and declined as the US and world economy collapsed and demand plummeted. https://i.huffpost.com/gen/2486306/original.jpg
Richard, bro, we are saying same thing. Oil prices dropped AFTER financial market collapsed.
Derivatives played a roll, the rise in the price of oil was a contributing factor. Without the exponential rise in the price of oil which contributed to subprime mortgage defaults, the financial crisis would have been less severe. If we get another oil price spike like the one shown in the graph or worse. It would negatively effect the economy. The derivatives problem has been covered up but still exists. And could also contribute to a chain reaction breakdown in the financial markets.
As far as the subprime mortgage issue. That’s something of a canard. It was the derivatives attached to the mortgages as part of the packaging and resale process that was what started the ball rolling with counter party risk far in excess of the actual value of the non performing loans which caused the chain reaction. The extent to which that has been corrected so that it doesn’t recur is subject to debate.
The point of my comment is that another spike in oil prices similar or worse than what happened in 2008 could lead to a similar economic collapse. If it isn’t sub prime mortgages it could be some other type of derivative counter party risk. There wasn’t an oil shortage last time. This time there would be, which would only exacerbate any weakness in the banking system.
Sorry Richard but I can’t see the influence of the oil prices to sub-primes fall.
It’s on the chart. As the price of oil goes up. People and businesses have to spend more money on oil related items and have less money to spend on other things like debt payments. When debt payments aren’t made and businesses fail, mortgages and other debt defaults. And banks fail.
Oil prices are not so important when you incomes are rising. If you have 2000 a week, you can freely spend 200 for gasoline. But if your income is 500, some 50 bucks for gasoline bites your budget.
My take is that oil and gas are the prime commodity. More keys off of it than any other commodity. It’s required in industrial agriculture for fertilizer + pesticides. As well as a wide range of petro chemicals and of course energy and transportation. Sub prime mortgages were minuscule in comparison. They were just the weak link that blew first in the banking sector. There are others.
The whole derivatives component of banking is purposely opaque. But the counter party risk is more than any institution can cover. Many of which are exponentially over leveraged and would be unable to cover their exposure if there are any significant defaults beyond a certain level which results in systemic defaults and bankruptcies. That’s what really happened in 2008.
It’s my understanding that the more fiscally responsible economies like Russia and China have outlawed these practices in their own financial systems. At least they had the last time that I looked at it years ago. Which limits their banks exposure to this type of financial contagion.
If the price of oil hadn’t spiked the 2008 financial crisis might not have occurred, or would have been less severe. And that’s without shortages. If you’ve studied peak oil at all, the doomsday scenarios would be applicable in a similar supply shortfall caused by quickly losing a lot of the Gulf production.
Well, if your logic is right, then all prices must fall after oil prices goes down. As for the understanding the 2008 crisis, I would suggest you the documentary “Insider” and “the Big short” movie. Quite boring for people which are not familiar with financial system, but it uncovers a lot.
I haven’t watched either movie. What was cause of the collapse according to them?
There’s a difference between slow oil price moves and a massive historical spike in the oil price like happened in 2007 and 2008.
Higher oil prices would slow the world economy, which is already slowing anyway, but if it happened today it would make any recession more severe.
Many are predicting the failure of Duetche bank in Q1 2020. It’s worth researching if you’re interested. A major bank failure like that is likely to trigger another financial crisis because all these big banks borrow from each other.
IMO the real threat is the stock bubble in the USA. The FED has been printing money steady since 2008 and lending it at artificially low interest rates. US corporations have been borrowing this money and instead of investing it they buy back shares artificially driving up the price of shares and triggering executive preformance bonuses and dividends without adding value to the company. Many companies like GE, Apple and Boeing are no longer worth what they borrowed let alone the stock price …. they are more or less empty shells.
Once one fails the rest come down like a house of cards and unlike 2008 when the FED started up the magic printing machine and loaned money at near zero interest rates to re-float the economy the FED have already been printing money since 2008 and their interest rate is already near zero so the US financial system will be fucked.
I personally have an acreage where I already grow a lot of my own food and could easily have a few goats and chickens however I have an eye on a nice big culvert down the road to live in if things get really bad …. I’m sure prime real estate under the bridges is already spoken for
I am fully agree with you Wayne Nicholson! The today’s bubble penetrated all the World economy, not only the home credit market like it was in 2008. But have some remarks on your point of view. 1. The world economy is already in the recession. 2. Wall Street uses bots, some special software, to trade stocks and manipulate the financial market and market grows despite all the negative news could ruin it. 3. Basel III is the thing which highly likely will crash the dominance of the USA dollar in the international trade.
PS growing my food too. Last summer gained a lot of zucchini and tried to conserve it with garlic, tomatoes and some carrots, most of it grown at my garden too. Already opened 4 cans and eat it.
I grew zucchini once and i was amazed at they’re capacity to double in size seemingly overnight
I have a freezer and cold room full of veggies too! We package tomatoes, carrots, beet greens and rutabagas into stew sized portions and use them all winter. I got a bumper crop of carrots this year for some reason. They were huge, plentiful and sweet.
I’ve also been getting into ferments. I made enough kimchi to last the year and I’m going to try sauerkraut next. Excellent for gut health.
Conserves are good in off-grid situation.
The whole financial system is Babylonian money magic they can pull the rug from under us at any time im not even going to try and grow my own food and live independently from the system that’s just buying time im im wishing the cops didn’t confiscate my guns as suicide is looking like a good option oh well i will just have to do it with drugs there’s plenty of that shit around
Hahaha i.grew.my.own weed this summer, got 2 lbs off 3 plants hahaha.
Thats a dam good yield! It’s a really useful plant. I grow my own too. I take my old stuff, decarb an oz of it and put it in a litre of cheap vodka and leave it in a dark cupboard for a month. I then strain it, put some in a small spray bottle with a few drops of peppermint concentrate.
A couple of squirts under the tongue is more effective than Advil for pain and it’s not enough to get you high … 8 squirts get’s you buzzed and a shot would likely put you out for the evening but I’ve never tried. It’s the only thing that works for me for migraines.
I also use it topically for muscle aches and sprains etc. It’s friggen amazing. I tore a muscle putting snowies on my truck this fall. The tear was deep in my forearm and bad enough to have bruising and swelling from mid firearm to my wrist. I sprayed some on it and the swelling went down immediatly and I was back to work the next day …. 100% cured in a week.
I also make a salve with beeswax, coconut oil cannabis and rosemary. Amazing stuff … anti-fungal, anti-bacterial. I’m a carpenter by trade and I suffer from cracked feet in the winter. Clears it right up and I’ve tried everything the doctor recommended.
Can you point me in right direction to get exact instructions on how to make that spray
I use Tincture # 2. https://wakeandbake.co/tinctures/
Thanks Wayne it seems like a fairly simple process i will try it when my crop comes in
Ha-ha! Weed in vodka! We tried this at late 90s in the college! BTW if cannabis helps you with migraines it’s better for you to check your vascular system. BUT, as I know, at the moment US medical system is not for healing but for pumping out your money as much as they can. Fluffy Smurfs! Why anyone have to practice self healing in the richest country in the World?
You probably drank the Vodka in college …. this is for micro dosing and alcohol makes for fast absorption. I’d use grain alcohol but it’s not legally available here.
My vascular system is good …. in fact great … ideal I’m told. I get regular checkups and I’m on zero medication for anything. I’m a lifelong athlete, work out daily and cycle 200-300Km/wk in season and ride a century or two every year.
These migraines are weather related and the health care profession insists that weather can’t cause these effects …. however it does. I suspect it’s inflammation related.
Yep. The good old times! We found the recipe at lecaeum.org, if I spell it correctly, and it’s name was Green Dragon. And of course we drank vodka and smoked weed. And mixed it sometimes. And another great recipes we tried… As for inflammation, how is it related to the weather? But some atmospheric pressure change can lead to the vascular spasm in your head which brings you pain. And weed is anticonvulsant and painkiller. BTW if you are athlete it doesn’t mean you’re healthy. James Fuller Fixx the author of “The Complete Book of Running” died of a heart attack while jogging at age of 52.
“As for inflammation, how is it related to the weather?”
I haven’t got a clue. My doctor says it’s bullshit. My physio say there is no scientific basis for it but many of her clients can tell he when a change in the weather is coming. For some people it’s the wet low pressure weather that affects them for me it’s a cold front and both my daughters suffer the same. Go figure!
On a similar note I can dowse and so can my two daughters. First I have to tell you I am a complete sceptic on dowsing. I don’t believe in it at all and never did. I can’t explain it. I don’t know ‘why me’ but it seems to run in families and it works.
I work in construction and we were having trouble finding a sanitary line in a shopping mall that had been renovated so many times no one knew what was where. The plumber said “Back home we’d call in the water witch” and demonstrated the method unsuccessfully. The drywall contractor tried and it didn’t work for him either. I tried and lo and behold the rods I was holding crossed and we found the sanitary pipe right where the rods said it was.
I’ve since found all sorts of things hidden underground using this method. Every engineer and office guy I work with think I’m full of shit but guys who work on underground services take it seriously and sure enough there is always something in the ground where the rods cross.
Dowsing I suspect is similar to what causes my weather related pain in that it’s something in nature we just haven’t discovered yet.
When a cold front closes up the pressure rises and your body must accommodate the blood pressure. It must relax your vessels to compensate the external conditions. Maybe one of the vessels in your head can’t relax so the pressure is higher in there. Anyway it’s better to check your head.
As for dowsing, it’s nothing unusual for me. We found place for a well in such way, but used aluminum rods. Was quite interesting and highly effective. :)
I have perfected the recipe for green Dragon using Everclear and will be selling this in Michigan soon.
How much you selling a quater for?
Unfortunately you can’t seem to kill yourself with weed does any one know where to get good poppy seeds?
Me too, i believe in a self sustaining lifestyle.
ROFL! Nice to see you Mike. Can you play “no women no cry” on the guitar?
Hi Roland. Nice to see you.
That worries me because the people that control the US administration would like nothing more than to plunge the world into famine
That is coming anyway because of the IPCC and the UN agenda of pushing global warming when the planet is actually cooling. Lots of crops lost this year around the world because of floods or extreme cold. These crop losses will only get worse because of nature and the screwballs at the UN.
Things aren’t looking good are they
F35? maybe it’s the new tactic of the USAF, make the enemy die from laughing …
Absolutely, considering the F3 is such a dud and a horrible POS…
The US will keep their side of the bargain, until they again murder at will. This is US foreign policy.
Murdering the General, with a stab in the back, is going to backfire. The europeans ain’t too happy with US neocons over stepping the mark once more. If nato was worth its salt, it would be fracturing about now. But it isn’t worth its salt and spines will bend at nato, like good bitches.
Didn’t Nostradamus predict falling “balls” from the sky in Middle east?
yep, precise prediction of f35 use :)
Iran will smash all runways of US bases in 1000km radius…so it will be dificult for that F-35 stol to substain operation over Iran airspace.
Truly, what a dumb stunt to do when you dealing with matters of threatened bombings and war crimes.
The United States seems to have been reduced in its thinking and behavior to a nasty college frat-boy with more money than he knows what to do with.
The last few presidents of the USA have certainly been like that. :)
Biggest 2020 January joke of Trump.Gone days of shivering for outdated superpowers. Everyone has what their have and truly in advance shape.
wow 52 in the air at one time. what a historic accomplishment. one hour of after flight maintenance on this POS costs 60k$ 60k$ x 52 = my, my
BTW Col., flying over Utah is not like flying over an armed enemy. What an AH
Simmer down now … The idio .. (ups) guy said this was the result of FOUR years of planning and practise. Somehow, they actually made them all fly! (One wonders) But, now that they have flown, might it be four more years (upkeep, ‘upgrade, etc.) before they fly again ;-)
Iran just needs 52 S-400 missiles….
Very interesting they are trying to destroy Iranian culture that’s what the jews have been doing all around the world they started off erasing the Palestinians and they’re culture then they flooded migrants into western societies to destroy whatever culture we had
Because the roots, culture, nation, language, religion, tradition is part of identity and identity makes cohesion within those groups. And all those groups with strong cohesion are difficult for controling and exploiting them
Another thing they’ve been doing is hiding history from us one of the more horrible things Isis and alqaeda(and Isis is a Jewish proxy force) did in Iraq and Syria was destroy ancient monuments and artifacts and archeological sites also the burning of that museum in Brazil which had a lot of really important artifacts some of which hadn’t been properly studied yet seem to have Jewish fingerprints on it
True. ISIS was destroying monuments but many of the artifacts are sold by them on the black market in Asia , Europe etc. to finance the Caliphate. In Afghanistan as well the Budha statues destroyed. UN protected world heritage site. Destroyed by the Taliban.
It’s a myth that they were sold on the black market the information im getting is saying none of those artifacts have turned up any where some of them were found smashed to bits on the side of the roads in Bagdad and some of it was dumped at sea. And think about did Isis really need money from antiqueties they had unlimited amounts of CIA dollars coming in.
OK than, all those “news” on that subject was false. It was more like Saudi & UAE dollars than CIA’s. CIA would only arrange buying of weapons by State Department from East European producers of copies of Russian weapons and ammunition and organize training of “rebels” with US Army and some NATO members
What we do know is that they were very well funded and you got to remember Isis fighters were paid in US dollars i dont think that came from Saudi Arabia or UAE there was a lot of US dollars flying through Syria in the Isis heyday buying people paying the fighters ect.
Saudi Arabia and UAE are permitted to work only in financing department while US-CIA were organizers, IsraHell Mossad brains of the operation and UK-MI6 younger assistant to CIA, Turks logistics and with Jordanians lesion officers on the ground. Franch, German ,Dutch even more “younger assistants” to US ( than UK) I didn’t say at all that US was not financing all that but that US had majority of their money directed through military training, and were major supplier of weapons to the “moderate rebels”=to Al Qeada & ISIS. Of course they were paying those troops as long es they were calling themselves “moderate rebels” If they would change flag and declare allegiance to ISIS, Al Qaeda they would immediately switch to Saudi & UAE salaries. Difference was only in name, nothing else. So it was more of administrative problem than anything else. Between US “moderate rebel” department and Saudi & UAE “ISIS& Al Qaeda”department.
It was a lie perpetrated by the msm
And how about those B52’s sent to Diego Garcia aimed at Islamist Iran?
What about em?
Waste of fuel, nothing will happen in the short term.
Why would a response come now? Why not wait until the amerinazis have their pants down?
US can’t win this war against Iran alone. While Iran can close oil shipping through the Gulf and rise price of the barell of oil to 300$. That kind of price will collapse US and World economy very quickly. So US are impasse if they can’t 100% protect oil shipping through the Gulf . Hypothetically in case of attack: US will send in first wave, thousand cruise missiles and B2 bombers with bunker busting bombs. In attempt to hit strategic nuke sites, Iranian ballistic missiles and Iranian air defenses. While Iran will hit all US bases in whole region. Close the Persian Gulf. And hit American troops everywhere they are with pro Iranian militias.
With the Gulf bases shut down the US would have to rely on stand off capability. It’s questionable if Pakistan would allow a US invasion or aerial assault through Afghanistan. A lot depends on the Iranian ability to keep Gulf, Afghan and regional bases inoperable. And counter strike US stand off capability.
The collapse of the US economy similar to 2008 or worse from an oil price spike and shortage is a given in my opinion. Evidently the Zionist neocons disagree. Because they seem hell bent on starting a war anyways.
The best way forward to avoid war is to get the US out of Iraq.
I think that China is already leaning on Pakistan to prevent any such possibility. Also Pakistan needs Iranian oil badly and IPI- Iran Pakistan India pipeline would be very profitable for Pakistan so why antagonize strategic partner like China and important partner like Iran only to please US? Specially because US today have no important influence in Pakistan and are not important trade partner to Pakistan.
Yes. The danger of the triggering dollar collapse is the biggest US problem I think. So even if they wanted they are not in position to attack Iran. Just “retaliatory strikes” with cruise missiles and B2 bombers.
Lets say hypothetically an example – after bombing of Iran: With the boots on the ground, they would have thousands of dead within first month. No politician in US can survive anything like that. No US politician would be able to send so many body bags back to US and survive. Without the boots on the ground in Iran Americans would become walking targets in whole Middle East.
Boots on the ground would have to be a marine invasion in a Gulf where the US Navy would be sitting ducks against an adversary that has been preparing for decades. It would be the closet thing to a suicide mission that the US has attempted since WW2.
Iraq wouldn’t allow it. And if Kuwait did it probably wouldn’t make much difference.
But haven’t they already put more boots on the ground in Iraq and i dont think they even consulted the iraqis
I think that US are far from political and economic situation like the one they had during WW2, Vietnam war or even “Desert Storm”. To repeat such large scale invasion, followed (in this case) with never ending war. They (for the moment) probably speculate only about large cruise missile attacks and bombing campaign (Yugoslavia). The problem even for that is strong Iranian air defenses. I honestly don’t think that US army has guts to invade Iran knowing all the consequences ( including economic ) that will follow. Iranian resolve to defend their country is infinitely stronger than US to invade. US marines would enter in living hell much worse than Afghanistan without possibility to easily get out.
The first thing that warmongering countries do before breaking international law is secure enough oil to run their tanks and planes for the duration of hostilities. The US has done that by fracking. The warmongers in the US get their oil, they and their shyster hangers-on get rich, the american people get to pick up the tab.
IMO, the first strike will be against sea targets in an effort to close the gulf off from all hostile traffic.
Legacy of Cold War is that US has huge capacity for storing oil reserves and as you have mentioned are producer of oil themselves. ” The warmongers in the US ” are even more in weapons industry since Military Industrial Complex-MIC brings much bigger profits than oil does.
I sincerely doubt that US would be able to secure Gulf passage since super tankers are too big and too slow and would be a perfect targets for Iranian midget submarines and coastal anti ship missiles, not to mention hundreds of sea mines.
It looks more like “Elephant took s**t 52 times” It is just stupid useless Hollywood publicity stunt. If ever push comes to shove…. Those F(lop)-35 jets will never ever see enemy airplane. Specially not Iranian Tomcats. Since US air-force pertinently knows that they do not stand any chance against old Iranian jets. They will send in F-15’s and F-18’s with full AWACS support instead.
If I were a US pilot…I wouldnt like to fly over Iran and let alone drop bombs…if the plane crash or is shot down…and pilot ejects….population will lynch him.
Nothing more than upgraded F-16s x01% in every aspect of their capabilities… Nothing more
if they would upgrade the F-16, at least they would be considered worthy; the F-35 is just a pile of shit.
They will be upgrading F-16 till 2048. And that speaks for itself about quality of F-35 since they need to keep very old design F-16 for so long. — “USAF To Keep Upgraded F-16s Till 2048 As Fate Of F-15C In Doubt” https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/9247/usaf-to-keep-upgraded-f-16s-till-2048-as-fate-of-f-15c-in-doubt
I agree with PCR that it is now Putin’s time to step up or go away. Tell the American criminals that an attack on Iran is an attack on Russia, game over for the Zionist pigs and their Nazi tools.
If you don’t mind I think that Russia has always opposite approach . They don’t brag, don’t talk much and even less threaten much. But when they decide to do something, the results are visible almost immediately (comparing to US for example).
My 2 cents is that Russia and China will give huge support through modern weapons delivered to Iranian military. Immediately in the case of US attack on Iran. And I also think that US know that already.
B.T.W. I agree that for Russia attack on Iran is seen as an “attack on Russia”. It is only that Russians don’t look for the short cuts to get to the WW3 and Armageddon.
Since it is only U.S. desperate bankrupted country, are being dangerous for themselves and for whole world.
I mostly agree but to me it seems like the Russians are dragging their feet and thereby giving their enemy confidence to escalate.
All that was US plan from the start. Plan to “escalate” once Russia invests enough personnel to raise the level of the conflict and stuck Russia in impasse. To create “new Afghanistan” and bleed Russia dry. Through flying terrorists over to Syria and financing and giving weapons to the terrorist. So it is ALWAYS the same tactics ever since Zbig Brzezinski have instructed CIA and they have crated Mujaheddin against Soviets. These people are total idiots with no imagination and they repeat the same tactics (to escalate and bleed dry) in Ukraine and in Syria. That is why Russia never uses regular troops in those conflicts. And if they do use some boots on the ground those are not in big numbers and are highly trained pro soldiers. Also your observation is right It is Russia that keeps those conflicts on low level to easier controle them and not to have obligation to intervene. Because they are under watchful eye of US-NATO-IsraHell all the time. The best proof are those Russian airplanes ( bomber and radar surveillance ) lost to carefully elaborated NATO, IsraHell plans.
What would you do with limited financial resources against more powerful enemy like NATO+Arabs+IsraHell ? Russia MUST keep their finances and robust “bullet proof” economy so that they can be invulnerable and stay away from financial terrorism of the Wall Street.
First they must drop the Dollar system completely or much of their effort is in vain.
And where the hell did you get the information that Russia is not doing exactly that?! They are about to kick dollar completely out of their system and even start payment system parallel to SWIFT. Every year they use dollars less. But those things take time. Last info on that subject I have seen is; by 2025 Russia will not use dollars or US banking or payment system at all. They will not use dollars at all in direct or indirect way in everything they do.
I wonder if we will see them crashing into each other as they scramble to get off a sinking aircraft carrier.
I might add something to this! [52] also means 52 actual targets! The REASON why Trump said he would hit “cultural centres” is because many of these targets within iran are UNDER mosques! Youve all seen the videos of a C-130 Gun ship attacking muslim targets and those muslims run into mosques to keep safe KNOWING the rules of engagement are to not destroy mosques!
Trump is now OFFICIALLY taking mosques off the table! They are now a targets!
52 stealth F-35’s taking out 52 targets under mosques!
WATCH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IRAN TAKES REVENGE! (i told u this was a trap for Iran) You all seem to think Iran isnt playing games! TRUMP ISNT PLAYING GAMES!!!!!!
GAME over for Iran! Game over for the deep state! Game over for China! U heard it from me first!