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NOVEMBER 2024

Criminals, Justice And European Values

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Criminals, Justice And European Values

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The infamous leader of the killers’ criminal group Aslan Gagiev, nicknamed Dzhako, was not extradited to Russia from Austria despite the existing decision of the Supreme Court of Vienna to do this. At the last moment, Gagiev’s lawyers successfully claimed he suffers from a nasty form of aerophobia.

Gagiev is suspected of creating a criminal gang and orchestrating 60 murders.

Criminals, Justice And European Values

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The killer “number one” was detained in Vienna in January 2015, but set free after paying bail set at 100,000 EUR. Then, he tried to move to Bulgaria but the authorities accused him of using a fake passport – and sought his extradition. The Austrian court rejected the Bulgarian request and granted the request of the Prosecutor General’s Office of the Russian Federation to extradite Gagiev to Russia.

Gagiev was on his way to Vienna airport after his lawyers presented documentation claiming that is a chance he would not be able to survive the flight due to a newly contracted and severe fear of flying. Gagiev’s lawyers also applied to Vienna’s highest court, arguing that he would not be well looked after in a Russian prison.

Experts believes that this case is not about aerophobia. Dzhako simply knows that an inevitable punishment and a life sentence awaits him in Russia.

Additionally, Gagiev’s legal team has vowed to take the fight to the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) if the Austrian court sides with Russia.

Here you can see the European values and selective justice. What if criminals and corrupt officials hiding in Europe from Russia, China and other states start making “coming outs”? No doubts, this move will prevent the European Union from extraditing them to the states with “non-tolerant” regimes.

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Graeme Rymill

“Here you can see the European values and selective justice”…..all you can see is due process in the European legal system…this matter of extradition is by no means settled in Gagiev’s favour.

As the Independent newspaper reports: “A source cited by Kommersant said Russia’s investigative committee is optimistic that Gagiev could be in a Russian prison by January.”

The Moscow Times says much the same: “A source cited by Kommersant says the Investigative Committee hopes that Gagiev, also known as Dzhako, would end up in a Russian jail by late December or early January.”

Tudor Miron

Due process in the European legal system? Give me a brake! Where’s that “due process” when US is simply kidnapping some people they think are guilty against US interests and take them to US? In this cases European justice keeps their tongue in their own ass. All fake – fake values in fake democracies and thanks to MSM most people think that this is really the way to go :)

Graeme Rymill

Due process is the legal requirement that the state must respect all legal rights that are owed to a person. You may not feel that it is much in evidence of due process in Europe. That is your judgement. My judgement is that this extradition case in no way reflects “selective justice”. It does however reflect European values. Due process underpins European legal systems. This temporary halt in extradition is an example of the state [Austria] respecting a detained person’s legal rights. Your comments about the US kidnapping people having nothing to do with this extradition case. The US is not involved in this case. There is no kidnapping.

Garga

He was on his way to airport, yet his lawyers claim he developed aerophobia? Perhaps he’s allergic to Aeroflot and not other airlines?

Additionally, Gagiev’s legal team has vowed to take the fight to the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) if the Austrian court sides with Russia.

There’s a chance that ECHR declares his rights will be violated if he goes to prison for his crimes. For me it is always amusing that these human rights groups and institutions are always worried for the rights of criminals and terrorists, not their victims. Let’s see if it comes to that.

Barba_Papa

Probably because the best interests of victims are best served by putting the right man in jail, as opposed to just quickly putting a man in jail?

The rights of victims should come into play during the punishment phase of a verdict, when actual guilt has been established. No sooner, but no less either. As for the rights of suspected criminals, because so much power can rest with the judiciary and police we need safeguards to even the odds. And I don’t know how it is where you live, but in the Netherlands we have had a long series of miscarriages of justice coming to light, because the police and attorneys developed tunnel vision and judges ran rough shot over potential exonerating evidence. The idea that we would rather let 10 criminals walk away then let one innocent go to jail is a powerful basis of Western justice. It sucks for the victims if a criminal walks away, but I reckon it would suck too if after several years new evidence emerges to see the man you thought was the criminal exonerated. Because not only would old wounds be reopened again, it would mean that the actual criminal was still out there for all that time.

Due legal process is not perfect. but it beats the alternatives. Especially trial by social media as we currently see with #METOO.

Gary Sellars

Please cease the stupid BS. His extradition has already been approved by SC, as it should be.

“The idea that we would rather let 10 criminals walk away then let one innocent go to jail is a powerful basis of Western justice.”

Utter BS as the reverse is true. Our corrupt police and courts simply want to close cases, and their attitude is charge someone and let the courts sort it out. Their criterion on whether to prosecute is not the strength of the evidence, but the likelihood of conviction, and if a jury convicts someone who is later found to be innocent, the cops & prosecutors just shrug and make some lame statement about regret.

Tudor Miron

What all this clever words typed by you above have to do with failing to extradict a known mafioso despite existing decision of the Supreme Court of Vienna?

matt

That is nonesense Garga. Human rights are human rights, period.

Garga

What they do is not. They clearly care more for the criminal. Whenever they cared for the victim as much as they care for the criminal I’ll gladly accept your point of view. ===== Did you find time to hear Monire Vakili?

Jens Holm

No, You dont understand the systems here at all and the well argued backgrounds for it.

Garga

Shoo troll.

Jens Holm

You just put in trool, traitor, jihadist, zionist, jew, american, USA, western in and only show, Your lack of a lot, which we see as normal and learn inschool as well by free press.

Garga

Good answer. Frankly I didn’t expect something like that from you. I’m impressed.

Now shoo. Nothing changed troll, shoo.

matt

Sorry, i blocked the disqus replies by accident :) just reading a lot of comments now and listening the music NOW, thanx!

Tudor Miron

No Matt. What they do in Austria regarding this particular case is nonsense. I didn’t not see Europeans care much about Miloshevich human rights or Serbians in particular. What is disgusting is there is huge number of selective application of European “values” and that’s a sure way for actually gradually loosing those mentioned rights. Also this is coming from same aithorities that didn’t complain much regarding bombing Libia did they? What are they doing about Palestinians human rights? .

Jens Holm

I did. Mladic as well.

Libya was for other reasons. I agree. More chaos when muslims dont learn to behave and only can use destructions and shoes. We should know.

Some Merkel with Germans special forces should have taken over and kill a few 1000 hard. After that kind of dictatorship there would be space for split up urises and libya soon would be a nice place.

Arabs dont learn to behave, they all are in an Emirat context and are not allowed by Allah to be different from that primitive system.

Tudor Miron

“muslims dont learn to behave” ??? According to who? To your “values”? Which values – those that prise males fu$$ing each other? Jens Holm, you are either trolling or just an arrogant idiot. Libya was was fine – peaceful and orderly right until your masters started bombing it into stone edge. Their “misbehave” was a direct result of inhumanly actions of high moral European leaders (with US/UK/Israel behind them). Do you really think that you’re somehow better than other humans (Arabs for example)? Are you able to comprehend what is the name for this kind of ideology? Actual truth is that some of Muslim political leaders dared to disobey and than you (meaning “west”) decided that it’s time to “teach them to behave”. But there’s a problem :) PS: German special forces? They once tried to teach Russians to behave – it didn’t end very well for them.

matt

Not true, independent human rights organisations like Amnesty publish on ALL human rights violations. The Mass Media though is another story

Jens Holm

Thats the best we have.

Enkidu

HAHAHAHA

Newly contracted and severe fear of flying

AHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHA

Gary Sellars

Amazing that they can get a stay on extradition based on such shit. Corrupt judiciary performing favors for hidden interests.

Tommy Jensen

It seems legal systems are the same joke all over.

Gary Sellars

Agreed. Natural justice seems to take second place to legal sophistry.

Mattias Dahlström

What one needs to realize is that European courts treat migrant rapists the same way, always finding excuses from them based off a neo-marxist perspective (he commits crime because he is oppressed by the white patriarchy). The oh so famous European court system is rotten to the core.

Gary Sellars

neo-marxist? I fail to see the connection.

Jens Holm

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Solomon Krupacek

would be better, if russia took pasport from criminals.

Garga

Smart. Sometimes you amaze me in a good way.

Let’s thing about all the accusations a country like Russia will face if it does that. Violation of basic human rights? Check. Forceful stay of citizens? Check. Unlawful punishment? Check. Deprive citizens of the choice to travel? Check. And many more that I can’t even think of.

One other think Russia can do is to kidnap the ones who they “suspect” and move them to a facility outside jurisdiction of it’s internal law, like the US and it’s chain of secret prisons.

Solomon Krupacek

boy, this is normal step also here, in the EU.

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