A Turkish army tank stationed near the Syrian border, in Suruc, Turkey, Sept. 3, 2016. (AP Photo)
The new ceasefire in Greater Idlib is a “a test of Turkey’s intentions,” Syria’s representative to the Astana talks, Bashar Jaafari, said during a press conference in the Kazakh capital, Nur-Sultan, on August 2, warning that Damascus patience has limits.
The Syrian diplomat went on to accuse Ankara of violating previous agreement and to reveal the numbers of Turkish forces deployed in the Syria.
“The Turkish regime deployed inside Syria territory 10,655 military personnel, including officers, warrant officers and soldiers, It sent to Syria territory 166 battle tanks, 278 armored vehicles, 18 rocket launchers, 173 mortars, 73 vehicles armed with heavy machine guns and 41 anti-tank missile launchers in a clear violation of Astana agreement, which allows the establishment of 12 observation post of the Turkish Police with no more than 280 policemen,” Jaafari said, according to the Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA).
Jaafari also noted that Ankara had appointed a Turkish governor for Syria’s Kurdish-populated region of Afrin as well as for the northern Syrian cities of A’zaz, Jarabulus and Marea.
Damascus had announced a conditional ceasefire in Greater Idlib a day earlier. Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and its allies accepted the ceasefire. However, they ignored the part saying that they should withdraw from the 20km demilitarized zone around Idlib.
Jaafar’s harsh statements against Turkey indicate that Damascus has little to no trust in Ankara, which had violated several agreements reached within the Astana process’ framework.
Apparently they seizing territories and they have to plan to expend.
Assad traded Idlib for survival with most of the best parts of syria. Since the original plan was to subject assad to a gadaffi type end it no doubt seemed like a good plan.
That’s why they moved to Idlib without waiting for reinforcements from al tanf. They’re only complaining now because they got betrayed by the oil and general economic embargo which is strangling Syria now that they don’t have their mercenaries mixed in with assad controlled territory. So they don’t need to let goods in anymore.
There is a large difference between 280 policemen, and 10,655 military personnel. Assad and Putin might remind Erdogan the Kurds are east of the Euphrates.
One way or another, every square inch of Syria will be liberated from the jihadis (including Obama’s jihadis), and from the Turks. It’s difficult to view Turkey’s presence in Syria as anything but a horrible strategic mistake on the part of Putin. He has to rectify that mistake.
By the way, should Tulsi Gabbard win in 2020, this BS of “hands off Idlib and al Qaeda” will end, and quickly.
You’d be surprised of how many americans actually support the “hands off idlib” thing and believe Assad is a monster and jihadis are freedom fighter etc. Pretty much all of them are leftist, violent feminists etc. What I’m getting to is its not just the american government that is to blame, but all these dumb motherfuckers who voted them into power in the first place. Seriously fuck this shit hole.
I know, I completely agree with you. The Iraq War never even happened in their world. They are fools for continuing to believe the lies of the MSM and the US government. I fault their blind fealty to their Messiah Obama, who they remain on their knees for. Democrats and the pseudo-progressives who are in fact pro-Islamist and pro-jihadi are simply disgusting, what else can I say?
Yeah. Not only some are blind to it, but most consciously, vigorously defend the idea of regime change everywhere. What can we do when stupid people with stupidly dangerous ideas are ready to impose them, unquestionably, including through violence?
Spot on
Haha, sometimes you feel like everyone is taking crazy pills hey.
you cant even liberated golan last 40 plus years what you talking about
The Golan is another story. But I hear you.
turkos need to sook for Afrin,lol.
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That is a valid point. There are various reasons for that. Firstly, the pimp Sadat sold out Syria and secondly Hafez al Assad was not a very smart man, but an opportunist, and made defacto peace with Zionists and kept PLO, PFLP and other resistance groups under brutal suppression. In 1975 the Lebanese socialist progressive alliance would have won, but Syria intervened on the Zionist side and supported the murderous Phalangists and killed Kemal Jumblatt the leader of the Lebanese left. Hafez al Assad also kept AMAL and Hezbollah on a tight leash and did not allow heavy weapons to flow through. Only after the weak Bashar came to power did Hezbollah gain access to heavy weaponry and showed its mettle in 2006. Both the Assad’s did not want to liberate Golan and want to keep things quiet. But now Syria is fractured and Hezbollah and other resistance forces much stronger and better armed. Hezbollah is run by very smart, politically astuete and principled men like Sayyed Nasrallah and Sheikh Naim Qassem who understand the strategic doctrine of force and asymmetrical war. Contrary to the usual Zionist and Americunt nonsense and propaganda, Hezbollah losses in Syria have been very low, but the experience has been invaluable. The next war Hezbollah will fight will pan out from Lebanon to Jordan valley, Gaza and the Zionist scum are shit scared. Assad and Syria now do not matter in the Hezbollah equation.
You need to get that Tulsi Gabbard business out of your head, man. The truth is, it doesn’t matter who is president; the agenda will push on regardless. A Gabbard administration would only bring more dead bodies and broken promises. Do the smart thing and drop out of national politics.
Syrian nation is still sleeping. I don’t know how they sleep in such a chaos in their country.
Turkey is a Key-Figure…in every aspect
treacherous.period.smell of Zionist jews.
Little Israel scare the s*** out of you lot shame shame ?
Israel has no legitimacy in internal affairs of Syria or how Syria defends its border with the Israeli illegally occupied Syrian Golan Heights. It is Israel who created hostile enemies on its border.
israel has no legitimacy, period.
Typical lying duplicitous hypocrite Turk bottom-feeders.
and who can blame syria for having little to no trust in turkey? for years turkey has been helping isis and causing trouble and its time they are put to STOP
Syria is only a country in the world where terrorists have made registered nests with the help of Turkey, America, UK, Saudi Arabia etc because you know Syria run without leader. Assad is not a leader because instead he can speak several languages but still he cannot address national issue on international platform. He cannot do his duty.
No, not at all.
Bashar Assad is an accidental leader as Basil the hand picked successor to Hafez al Assad was killed or murdered in a car crash. Bashar is a good man basically, but weak and vacillating with zero military experience. His brother Mahar even though wounded and with injuries would have made a better leader. Syria has a complete vacuum in both military and political leadership as the military is now purged and barely 90,000 strong. Putin has tied his hands, even if he wanted to act, he can not.
If Syrian nation want to come out from current chaos then they must need a new leadership.
Assad gives most time to domestic activities instead to country and nation. He is a good husband and a good father but he is not a good leader.
Well, Turks here acts as Wahhabi protectors, and that is VEEERY BAD THING TO DO!
Well the Wahhabi pimpdoms of Saudis, Emirates and Qatar have funded the moron ErDOGan’s AKP. The Turkish military has been purged of all secular officers with over 1400 in jail awaiting trial. Most of the incompetent Wahhabi Salafists have been promoted and the MIT (their most incompetent terrorist supporting intelligence or lack of it) screens out any secular officer. Turkey is a more corrupt form of Islamist state.
In my earlier years as GD pilot, I did a stint with the Türk Hava Kuvvetleri on F-5E at Izmir/Çigli. The Turkeys are as stupid as the Saudis. On many occasions their young pilots would land a plane without putting down the landing gear either killing themselves or severely scrapping the undercarriage, punch the drop tanks over civilians areas and do absolutely moronic things like bailing out at the first warning beep of engine stall, instead of reignite attempt. The Hellenic airforce, even though much smaller has far better pilots and capability. The problem is the Syria has not challenged the occupation of its territory which Hezbollah wanted to early on, but after Russian pressure on SAA, simply disengaged and moved its elite units back to Lebanon or to their bases in Qaalmoun plains. Unless the Turkeys and their Americunt masters suffer losses, they have no incentive to leave Syria. The Americunts, UAE pimps and their Saudi whores are crying uncle, only because they are suffering daily casualties in Afghanistan and Yemen. The Zionist shitheads did not leave Lebanon because of traffic congestion,it was because AMAL and Hezbollah turned their life into hell. The same applies to Turkeys, they will run out of Syria only if they suffer high rate of attrition.
very interesting, what is GD pilot?
General Duty pilot after graduation. Then they assign you to specialized units based on aptitude, interest and temperament. I went on RF 4E as a recon specialist as I am a loner and good at analysis and gleaning through facts and cutting out the BS.
Mr do not forget assad daddy used to Harbour and supply everything for PKK Syria always supply PKK anything they need it so what goes around comes around.
Greece Cyprus and Iraq should’ve formed an alliance years ago to counter balance Turkish neo ottoman aspirations. They all face territorial threats from Turkey maybe the southern Caucasus states as well. If they cant sort out a plan then no one will stop turkey until its rampaging to saudia Arabia and Vienna again.
Assuming they get that far before their economy gives out. Mark my words Turkey’s strategy is too loot its way to making victory pay for itself. The same thing that powered napoleon and Hitler rampages.
True, they need to be stopped
My guesstimate is that this Agreement will immediately fail because them Western Headchopping Idlibistani Parasites are not going to withdraw beyond the 20km Demilitarized Zone…thus they will break this Treaty…
Turkey is there to stay. its obvious. the option of attacking the Kurds that remain in the East is always on the table. The US will flee if things get rough. they cannot risk a confrontation with their spoiled child . thy have SOF there patrolling the borders but thats all. Recapturing Idlib will be a major problem for the SAA. the rats have been preparing for this a long time, Turkey is supplying them with everything they want. Turkey is playing a very risky game. Ignores the US (since president tramp is so reluctant in taking measures against them) and no ignores Russia testing how far it can go.
I don’t think they will flee with Trump in charge, and he’s just shipped in 1500 trucks filled with all sorts of marvelously destructive things for the Kurds to use against the Turks.
do you think Turkey will tae the next step against Kurds?
Due to the way Erdogan and the AK party’s popularity is falling and the fact they’ve lost majority control of the government, I fear a stunt like invading Kurdish held territory is a distinct possibility now. He may try to boost support for himself and his party by doing what he’s been saying he’s going to do for 2 years now, and since most of the Turks who vote for Erdogan’s party also support his demands to create a security zone on Syrian territory, an invasion would make his loyal supporters very happy and boost his popularity with them. And the one thing I can say about Erdogan is this, he always puts his money where his mouth is, so when he says he’s going to do something he usually does, and if you read Turkish news you’ll see he’s been saying quite a lot about that subject lately, and also often mentioning the fact he’s not concerned at all about upsetting his US allies. But I don’t think Trump will allow the Turks to do what they want, I think Erdogan is in for a surprise if he does invade, cheers.
i agree but disagree on the last sentence. Trump will do nothing in my opinion if the Sultan invades the Kurdish territory. He has done nothing when he invaded AFrin.he will do nothing now until Turkey reaches the river. Then the Sultan will have his victory for domestic use on many levels. killing Kurds, gaining territory, humiliating the US. Trump on the other hand will try to please his former ally , hoping Erdi will return to his arms.
You’re right Trump didn’t lift a finger to help the Kurds in the western enclave, but erdi baby was only harming Syrian and Russian interests back then, not US interests, or endangering US lives and property, but he will be this time. I can imagine the US government wringing their hand in pleasure when they realized the Turks were launching operation Olive Branch, at that time the Kurds in Afrin were under the Russian’s protection, and also talking with the Syrian government about reconciliation, until erdi baby threw a spanner in the works that is.
We’ll find out what happens when and if Erdogan does invade, and judging by the way he’s been talking recently, we won’t have that long to wait, but he has done all this before and backed down, so I’m not sure that it’ll even happen, but if he does invade I think Trump will do something to stop him, at least I hope he does.
ι read that the Kurds threatened to let go of some 8000 ISIS prisoners if Turkey invades. strange reaction there….but then again Kurds and politics…..never worked out well
If the Kurds released 8000 Isis prisoners they’d just have to fight them again at some time in the future, unless of course those 8000 Isis prisoners the article is referring to are women and children, and I think that would be more likely Kurds and politics do mix, it’s just they’re such a diverse bunch that it appears they don’t do well politically. For instance in Syria most Kurds belong to political parties that want autonomy from Syria, but then there are also groups that don’t want autonomy and would prefer to remain under Syrian sovereignty, and then we even have one groups that’s actually pro Turkish, and it’s quite large, In Iraq we have the same thing, about half the Iraq Kurds are pro Turkish and anti Assad, while the other half are pro Assad and anti Turkish, they’re not a very homogenized group of people politically at all, but then again what country is. So whenever you hear anyone say all Kurds are the same, it’s actually the farthest thing from the truth, they’re not.
there are leaks today about the date of the invasion…..August 11.
I haven’t heard about the new leaked info yet, from which source is it, or better still can you provide a link for me. Cheers.
sorry lost it in all the data that i read every day.but let me check….
found it. it has the link of the Turkish page that leaked the possible data as well. http://infognomonpolitics.blogspot.com/2019/08/blog-post_121.html
Thanks for that, let’s see just how accurate it is, only 4 days to go before we find out. Cheers.
The Turks are like Jews, disliked by all who have dealt with them, they and their Jewish brethren are the weeds in the garden of eden.
The military reality is that the Turkeys are a third grade third world military and most of the equipment deployed in the occupation of northern Syria dates back to WW2 era like the hull down M-48/60A2 Pattons which can be knocked out with RPGs, let alone Kornets. The Ansarallah and Hezbollah have both defeated far superior weaponry like M1 Abrams, Froggy LeClerc etc. The real issue is that the SAA is unwilling to inflict losses on the Turkeys. The headchoppers Kurds had destroyed over 32 Turkeys tanks and APC in a single battle at Al-Bab. It is the time the SAA destroy a few vintage Turkey tanks and the Anatolian peasant conscripts will run like hell.
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Seemes like nmo facts are allowed. One could be who they are up against.
where you get all this figures from RE idiot. now go and jump front of the fast train
Syrias’ main issue now is stability on the vast area that is under SAA control, since cells carry out random attacks, then Idlib which will take months since the rats had all the time to fortify the area and then the desert were many terrorists are hiding and of course under US protection there. After all these are settled then we are talking about post-war Syria. Then the issue of Turkey and the Kurds of course will be dealt with.
Remove Turkey from Astana talks and insist immediate Turkey withdrawal from Syria sovereign land.
The only purpose for the Astana agreement is to serve Turkey’s interests, Iran Russia and Syria don’t need an agreement at all, they’re already all in agreement.
Ceasefire LOL. I used to say the SAA were breaking all these new ceasefire agreements just as often as the rebels do, but now I have to change that to the SAA are now breaking the new ceasefire agreements the very instant they’re implemented. Some of you could rightly say the rebels are actually the ones breaking the ceasefires by leaving their heavy weapons where they are instead of removing them as they should, but people should realize the rebels need at least a day or more to do that, and the SAA don’t even give them a few hours before they start bombing them again, so who’s actually breaking the new ceasefires now. It’s like the tables are stacked against them before the ink is even dry, the rebels can’t comply to the deadlines set and they must know it, perhaps they think the SAA will give them time to remove their weapons before the SAA implements the new agreement, but they don’t, they just recommence bombing as usual, LOL. Now if you think I’m sticking up for the rebels and trying to defend them you’d be wrong, I’m just aware of the fact that the SAA now treat these new ceasefire arrangements the same way the rebels used too, they’re just wiping their butts with it the same way the rebels did, and that’s because that’s all they’ve ever been good for, and now the SAA are just treating those worthless pieces of paper the same way the rebels did. And it’s about time too. I can imagine millions of copies of that Astana agreement being printed out and distributed to the SAA soldiers, but not to remind them not to break the ceasefire agreements, but to use every time they need to go to the toilet, LOL, ceasefire.
Astana never had a chance since Putin kow towed to ErDOGan and played Syria for patsies for his Zionist masters. The very fact that SAA can not operate independently attests to that. Why do you think Hezbollah simply withdrew after its efforts to push the SAA into more offensive posture stalled?These ceasefires only strengthen the headchopper terrorists even more as the Turkeys and their Americunt masters pump more heavy weaponry into terrorist hand, much like the Paki-ISI did in the Afghan USSR debacle.
I’m not sure if that quite right, Iran wasn’t pushing for Hezbollah to push Assad into confronting the Turks, Iran was doing deals with the Turks, they need Turkish money for their oil because they can’t sell it to anyone else due to US sanctions. And the SAA were independently attacking the rebels for several months before the Russians really started helping. Before the attack on a Russian airbase in which the rebels claimed they killed Russian servicemen and the Russians denied it, and then the Russians followed up with a hundred airstrikes the next day, I don’t think the Russians were doing much at all to help the SAA, I think it was Assad going it alone for several months. But since that one hundred airstrikes in one day the Russians now seem to be fully supporting the SAA in every way, and maybe that’s why Erdogan’s rushed so many Turkish soldiers to his southern border.
Lol, that makes sense too
I think I have disagreed with you in past, but I think your analysis is closer to the truth than I previously thought. ?
Rebels? Like al-Zenki child headchoppers? Rebels don’t kill children, women and old people, as they need to win the people for their cause. If they do kill then they are not rebels but terrorists. Is Paris attack done by rebels or terrorists? Is ISIS fighter rebel or mercenary? Rebel fights for idea, mercenary for money. Captured ISIS fighter admitted that he was paid 50$, his wife got 50$, and 25$ for each child. He was mercenary not rebel.
There’s no such thing as rebels in Syria anymore, all the rebels have already reconciled with the Syrian government, there’s only terrorists left now, even if some parties try to tell us they’re actually legal opposition, but legal opposition don’t slice young boys heads off and post it on the internet, terrorists do.
Ok, thanks for clarification. Was confused by “rebel” word in your post.
Turkey is an invader just like Israel. Turkey has been allowed to take over Syrian lands so Russia can sell its weapons to them.
Gordon Duff of VeteransToday has an interesting piece on Turkey and ISIS.
Turkey: The Origin of the Daesh (ISIS) Terrorist Organization – Veterans Today | Military Foreign Affairs Policy Journal for Clandestine Services
Until Yankis, Limeys and Frenchies die, this nightmare will never end. Why does Damascus not get this?