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Day Three: House Speaker Vote Ties 100-Year Record As Ninth Round Kicks Off

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Day Three: House Speaker Vote Ties 100-Year Record As Ninth Round Kicks Off

Update (1525ET): The 9th round of voting for House Speaker is now underway, topping the number of ballots it took in 1923 to re-elect Speaker Frederick Gillett (R-MA). He won by eventually caving to several demands to liberalize House legislative rules in order to win over fellow Republicans.

Prior to that, the House was deadlocked for two months in 1856, when it took 133 votes.

“We need to get to a point where we evaluate what life after Kevin McCarthy looks like,” said Rep. Lauren Boebert to the 200 McCarthy supporters, before nominating Kevin Hern.

Day Three: House Speaker Vote Ties 100-Year Record As Ninth Round Kicks Off

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Update (1455ET): If Kevin McCarthy was a cat, he’d have one life left – after the eighth round of voting for House Speaker has once again left him with snake-eyes.

Day Three: House Speaker Vote Ties 100-Year Record As Ninth Round Kicks Off

The results were virtually unchanged from the last round, with McCarthy garnering 201 votes, 20 Republicans voting for another candidate, and one voting “present.”

What’s next?

Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) told reporters on Wednesday that she wishes McCarthy had been voted in on the first ballot.

“I wish it had happened on the first vote, that Kevin would have been elected on the first vote and then we could have proceeded with putting committees together, an agenda and the rest,” she said. “People should be seeing what the difference public policy makes in their lives instead of their being subjected to, what do they call insanity, doing the same thing over and over again with no change.”

Day Three: House Speaker Vote Ties 100-Year Record As Ninth Round Kicks Off

Come on Kevin, aren’t eight votes enough?

Day Three: House Speaker Vote Ties 100-Year Record As Ninth Round Kicks Off

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Update (1407ET): The House has begun voting for an eighth time, after McCarthy was soundly defeated once again.

In the last round of voting, 19 Republicans voted for Rep. Byron Donalds, one voted ‘present,’ and Matt Gaetz voted for former President Trump.

Update (1250ET): To the surprise of no one, Kevin McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to become Speaker of the House as the 7th round of voting comes to a close.

Hilariously, Rep. Matt Gaetz voted for Donald Trump for Speaker.

Interestingly, Trump could become Speaker – as the Constitution does not specify that the Speaker must actually be a member of the House. In a 2021 report, the Congressional Research Service noted that “Although the Constitution does not so require, the Speaker has always been a Member of the House.

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After two days of embarrassing defeat spanning six votes for Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy has offered his critics a mountain of new concessions before, during and after a round of Wednesday night negotiations, Politico reports.

Day Three: House Speaker Vote Ties 100-Year Record As Ninth Round Kicks Off

The concessions include (via Politico):

  • A one-member “motion to vacate”: The GOP leader appears to have finally acquiesced to a demand to lower the threshold needed to force a vote ousting a speaker to just one member. While McCarthy originally indicated that restoring the one-member “motion to vacate” was a red line, his allies now argue that there’s not a huge practical difference between this and his previous offer of requiring five members to trigger the vote.
  • Rules Committee seats for the Freedom Caucus: McCarthy is prepared to give the House Freedom Caucus two seats on the powerful House Rules Committee, which oversees the amendment process for the floor. (Some conservatives are still holding out for four seats on the panel.) There are also talks about giving a third seat to a conservative close to the Freedom Caucus but not in it — someone like Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky. Who would pick those members is still under discussion. Typically, it’s the speaker’s prerogative, but conservatives want to choose their own members for these jobs.
  • A vote on term limits: This is a key demand of Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.), who has proposed a constitutional amendment limiting lawmakers to three terms in the House.
  • Major changes to the appropriations process: Fears of another trillion-plus-dollar omnibus spending bill have been a major driver of the conservative backlash to McCarthy. The brewing deal includes a promise for standalone votes on each of the 12 annual appropriations bills, which would be considered under what is known as an “open rule,” allowing floor amendments to be offered by any lawmaker.

That said, according to Punchbowl News‘ Jake Sherman (formerly of Politico), there are still 20 ‘no’ votes against McCarthy, who “may have to sit through a 7th speaker vote today that he’s sure to lose.”

According to Sherman, “negotiations between McCarthy and opponents have turned slightly positive,” while the Speaker hopeful is trying to drive a wedge between Reps. Lauren Bobert and Matt Gaetz. That said, some of McCarthy’s allies have suggested the drama could extend into next week before McCarthy either gets the job or backs down.

More from Sherman / Punchbowl regarding McCarthy’s progress:

Meanwhile, ‘Never Kevin’ Rep. Dan Bishop (R-NC) has vowed to resign from Congress if McCarthy is elected Speaker, Fox News reports.

Years of anger, distrust

As Bloomberg notes, the 20 GOP holdouts that are blocking McCarthy’s bid to become Speaker comes from years of anger at party leadership and “deep suspicions of the veteran lawmaker.”

The group opposing McCarthy’s ascension to the top spot in the chamber have a list of grievances about House rules, anger over uniparty compromises with Democrats, and doubt over McCarthy’s claim to be a true conservative.

“Mr. McCarthy has a history that is off-putting to some people,” said Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ), one of the leaders of the revolt.

According to Rep. Scott Perry, chair of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, “It’s not personal for us,” adding “It’s about the policies that come out of here.”

Day Three: House Speaker Vote Ties 100-Year Record As Ninth Round Kicks Off

“I’m not for the restrictive nature of this place where eight people run it and the rest of us just vote yes or no,” Perry added, expressing frustration with a series of omnibus spending packages that Republicans have joined Democrats in jamming through the process, year after year.

Meanwhile, McCarthy foe Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) says there are ‘trust’ issues over McCarthy’s past votes on spending packages.

Could Kevin McCarthy all of a sudden morph into a fiscal conservative?” he asked.

Matt Gaetz of Florida, one of McCarthy’s most vocal detractors, has made his opposition more personal, lambasting him as a creature of the Washington “swamp” who does the bidding of corporate lobbies.

If you want to Drain the Swamp, you CANNOT put the biggest alligator in charge of the exercise!” he said in a fundraising email sent amid the speaker votes. “We’re talking about someone who the corrupt DC special interests can always count on to be their lapdog.”

McCarthy has made efforts to neutralize right-wing critics. He pulled himself close to former President Donald Trump after first criticizing him for his actions when a mob of his supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. -Bloomberg

Stay tuned for today’s episode of ‘nobody likes Kevin.’

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Armin

All these signs, including this one, indicate the fall of the forces of evil. The last days …………………………

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LimpKop

And thank god for that. These Anglo devils have caused enough mayhem over the last 500 years.

Chris Gr

Don’t blame Anglos like you shouldn’t blame Jews. Blame secret societies.

Abraham Lincoln

Wrong blame satanic Jew run secret societies

Chris Gr

Jew run lol Rockefeller and Gates are not Jews.

AM Hants

Not the Biblical Jewish Community, but, the nomads from the Turkic Tribes, that adopted Judaism, Christianity and Islam, whilst learning Hebrew and then end up in positions of control, within the institutions, corporations and media. 4 people control and own the media and funnily enough they all have similar passports, that lead back to one nation. A nation that was formed in 1947, the same year the CIA was launched and their first exercise was ‘Operation Paperclip’.

Chris Gr

You mean Khazars?

Green Orc

What a bunch of dumbasses.

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Антон

It’s like before collapse of USSR, when bunch of incompetent, greedy, populist pro-western clowns ruined the country. Any leader in EU is the same as Gorbachov (i.e. traitors) except Orban, and Biden can be compared with Leonid Brezhnev, because of age and troubles with speech, though Brezhnev had no dementia.

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Cannon Fodder

One big Circle Jerk, doesn’t matter who the Speaker is as billion more will continue to be spent on Ukraine. Politics is a Clown Circus for the Masses, now move along, keep your mouth shut and continue to pay your taxes…

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Western Defector

You don’t know what you are talking about. The speaker is the one who controls what is talked about and voted on. It’s imperative that a true constitutional patriot has that job over a traitor.

Cannon Fodder

Will never be allowed to happen. Why haven’t you used your Second Amendment yet Defector or stopped paying your taxes? Yes, McCarthy is part of the Uniparty but any chance of changing anything has sailed a long time ago. Nothing but a violent revolution will change things now, are you ready to fire the first shot?

Антон

Guys, the US is enemy for me, but i must say truth — revolution will not make things better. But you are right, it will change a lot. Common people will suffer while groups of masons/bankers/transnational corporations divide the power. May be this is better for the world (weaken or collapsing of the US), but not for people inside where every individual (in average) have a gun. It will by very wild west in every state.

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AM Hants

They are begging for a violent civil protest, which the patriots understand and refuse to provide the gift. The same crowd are also begging for a thermo-nuclear WWIII, with either Russia or China. The same crowd who openly admit that they want to erase 90% of the world population.

Do believe we are in the final chapter and there is a lot more exposure of the baddies before things get better. Just which team will win?

AM Hants

If anything happens and they have to take out Biden and Harris, which is a possibility, then McCarthy, or Pelosi in drag, will end up US President.

No wonder certain members of the establishment don’t like it when the people vote, when you look at what the establishment forces on the people.

Scarpantibus

Bombardare questi selvaggi africani

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Chris Gr

Fiscal “conservatism” is actually unrelented capitalism, not the traditional conservatism.

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Peter Jennings

Life under the big top. It’s no wonder that respect for the US is waining.

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Western Defector

If you think it is just a circus when the people fight back then you are the clown.

Mexican American 🇲🇽

Until there’s a President willing to make peace with our so called enemies, Iran, Russia, Syria, China, North Korea etc. And that’s a big IF, then my faith in this country will be restored until then it is a big circus.

Western Defector

It’s time to put a sack over his head and push him down the stairs!

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Martillo

A house divided against itself cannot stand. Get the civil war in Slumville reloaded already. The rest of the planet has the popcorn and karma coming home to devour the angloZionaZi empire of shit is top of the bill.

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Kev not Kiev

RINO… Kevin…home alone III.

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Christopher

Matthew, 12:25

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LED

Pelosi with pants crawling from the swamp to keep the Biden agenda going.Impeach Biden end the war and get rid of the globalists.

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Антон

Mccarthism again? So symbolic. Is it failed or McCarthy have a chance to become the chairman? P.S. Good irony with picture about speakers.

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Kbm

A little bit different topic but USA’s Venezuela failed Coup leader was shut out by Venezuelan opposition. This is golden if anything!!!!! The Venezuelan embassy the USA took over on it’s own soil has closed. Ya can’t make these head lines up, straight out of Zerohedge.com.

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AM Hants

Can you imagine the media hysteria if similar had happened in Russia? US elections, where they ban international observers and allow votes to come in, a month after the polls have closed, especially if you have exhumed yourself from the nearest graveyard. Then 15 rounds, to make sure the person of choice, not the people’s choice, but, ‘dodgy choice’ gets through.

Reminds me of the days of the Roman Empire, just before it fell. Why does the US believe their way is right, but, so wrong for anybody else who follows the same script?

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Chris Gr

US is worse than the Romans.

AM Hants

What was it that Medvedev said, on Telegram?

“15 rounds: the ruling parties in the United States did not choose the speaker of the House of Representatives, but dragged a pig carcass,” the politician wrote in Telegram.

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