Days Before War? U.S. Concentrates Troops & Withdraws Diplomats

I live three thousand miles east, in North Carolina, I don’t want Yellowstone bombed, I know it will be an event not seen by people since Mt. Vesuvius erupted, five or six hundred years ago. When Mt. Pinatubo erupted, almost two decades ago, it cut agriculture production in Europe in half, took a third of America’s, and took seven years to recover to normal air quality. Mt. St. Helen’s would have been equal, but having a bubble in it’s side, allowed much of the force to devastate the ground, and minimized the volume, spewed into the atmosphere, and a great relief for the whole world. If this were struck there is little need for any other, America is dead, and much of the world will be as well. The world doesn’t need a nuclear war, it needs common sense, and an end to constant war. We, America, are dead-ended, Russia and China are on the rise, nothing has to happen, for us to be unseated, we will shortly unseat ourselves, when we suggest we can’t pay the full interest of our debt, and for a change, we are told, but you will. Just as “capitalism” is a natural phenomenon, taking raw material, adding labor, making it more valuable because more useful, and this whole idea fosters trade, allowing interest on debt go unpaid, gets it added to debt principle, and we pay compound interest, just as every worker in the trade chain, profits off the value added, we lose, exponentially, with every “short payment”, and it is only because there are far too many “dollars” in “float”, we have any power at all. The world can’t suddenly turn to gold, it has to replace faux money with real assets, and reach a point the denomination value is fair to the gold backing it, before it can be used for more than securing a real bank, and providing for capital creation by compound interest on investments. It is only a short time before they attain that level, and the end of our Hegemony begins in earnest. Semper Fidelis, John McClain GySgt, USMC, ret. Vanceboro, NC, USA

John, I have nothing to add or remove from Your post. Thumb UP! People must scream about it, science community has obligation to scream about it, philosophers must scream about it. I agree it’s not something that will happen over there without having consequences over here. Just like butterfly efect in deterministic chaos. I’m not sure what will be more devastating, nuclear winter or financial meltdown.

Viktor, there are way too many people out there who have opinions, without having any facts, nor the means to get such, and no will to pursue. I live with the fact I spent two decades a Marine, half the time didn’t know where I was, and wasn’t allowed to, and I’ve seen little of the wars of my time, having deployed “too much” early in my career, and assigned recruiting, the instructor duty, and then “shop head”, as my last two years, running the same shop that was my first permanent duty assignment, here at Cherry Point Marine Corps Air Station. I’ve spent most of my life trying to find the truth, having been a “navy brat” and spent four years in Europe, as a child, and knowing real history, for having walked through it. At six, coming back to the States, I knew the news was lies, and while my parents didn’t support me, they didn’t deny it either. They didn’t want to foment a “hate government” attitude in me, although they each had their own disdain for it, as I discovered as an adult. Having sufficient knowledge and background to make rational choices takes work, not so much, but steady, and we’ve become a moribund society, getting up to fix a soda, or a drink is almost too much trouble. I am just pleased to be able to find facts, news, and opinions, especially outside the U.S., and to find “Americans” aren’t necessarily hated, just the U.S., most people seem to realize, we are also victimized. My senators hate me, I know where their offices are, and I visit them from time to time and confront their words. I like your note of “the butterfly effect”, it is particularly meaningful to those who understand quantum mechanics. Semper Fidelis, Have a Blessed Christmas, John McClain, Vanceboro, NC, USA

John, thank You for the blessing, I wish You good health and luck. I was born in Yugoslavia. At the age of six, took oath to work hard, learn hard, be good comrade, and to respect and protect Constitution of SFR Yugoslavia. Eight years later, a war broke up, giving me a bitter tast of the oath. Intelligence was in full swing in boiling fratricidal war. As You said, many opinions without causality. During this dark age, there were some candles giving me hope that we, the people, are not alone. Same candles I met on multiple business trips in Europe and Egypt. Also it was my privilege to work for and with Americans, the people of flesh and blood, working hard, learning hard and exceptional coworkers. On southfront site there are several candles I enjoy reading worthy posts.

Victor, thank you for the kind reply, it is a blessing to share all things good, with those who have chosen to appreciate what we have been given, from above. I had used facebook, because my children, (adults) used it, but I began to see postings disappear, or not post, and chose disqus, instead, and have held good, reasoned conversations with people, just like my experiences in childhood. People are good, unless they turn toward evil, and don’t turn away when they realize it. I too, have long noted the vast difference between “people who choose to work hard, to make a difference for children, for community, culture”, and those who choose a living means, according to their desires for wealth and profit. Everyone who has ever built something, or made something, knows their work has value, and also knows, over-valuing it closes doors in the future, and find the “happy balance”, enough profit to invest in raw material, quality work, worth the cost to the customer, and this done without leverage, pressure, just “trade”, means the customer comes back, both are happy, and “when the soles of the shoes wear out, he will come back to him he trusts”. We, People, know what God has set for us, but there are always some who won’t work, get dirty, they don’t really believe, when one is done scrubbing at the end of the day, all the dirt and grub, washes off, and one is never defiled by hard work, needing done. I completely understand your statements regarding the war, and the fratricide. War is of the enemy, even as it is Man who chooses to abuse man, and bring it on. In my own experience, it is always bitter, even when doing a good thing, and one must always deal with death and the dead, it takes a toll on the soul, not even seeing “the good people” come back out, open the store doors, and people dare walk the streets again, that does not eliminate the bitter taste we will carry to our graves. I found out I’ve got a bit of “Rus” in my own maternal lineage, and this got me considering Russia and the Soviet Union as a boy, and investigating. I never understood why we, America, and Russia didn’t connect as “brothers in arms”, both rising nations, among European and foreign empires, and desirous of being left alone to make each, our own way. I have discovered so much of the reality of Russia’s, and the whole region’s growth, that was deliberately left out of our history, to support the pressure against the Soviet empire, and having lied, they can never stop, except to reveal their long history, their chosen ways. I have a machine shop fifty kilometers from my house, I’ve worked as a machinist all my life, and worked electronics, while a Marine, because that was urgent, and I knew how. I am retired now, mostly, I work for myself, at 61, I am making models of ideas I’ve carried for years, testing out and finding the value, and then build full sized. I get work from the farmers, when machines break, and I live in a quiet, Christian community. I believe it is only “People” who can ever find peace, such is not a benefit for government, they can’t steal profit, and they need war. I believe a multipolar world would be much like “the multi-bully playground”, where none is merely free to visit violence on anyone, but all must consider who might find cause to support the one being attacked. We, America, have violated every warning, edict President Washington gave us, and he was perhaps, our greatest president, and one of our wisest Generals, ever. Few Generals know how to live in peace, those who do, are a blessing to their own, the troops, and the People, as war builds only power, while destroying capital, built from sweat, labor, and time, none of which are returned in destruction. Perhaps an abundance of connecting between peoples with such forums, can over come the power of governments, and we can find peace, and not live to see another world war. Semper Fidelis, God Bless you and yours, John McClain Vanceboro, NC

I could not agree more! Very rare to hear this sort of opinions, thanks! Most of the reactions on those mass immigration subject are only one dimensional … That is why we must also reject the UN migration pact because it makes the principle of ‘unter- and übermenschen’ legal. That some would be illegal while others have the right to flee, travel or move for whatever reason.

No person can be declared illegal, everyone should be allowed to try his luck elsewhere if this is prevented by circumstances in his own country or region. In addition, this legalization grasped our centuries-long colonization practices by subjecting hundreds of countries of origin to the bank mafia through our governments and multinational corporations. Who by means of legal and illegal arms trade, drug and human trafficking all kinds of finance, supports and sustains slavery in the world! Done with that !!!

Sheeples were Led to believe that War is a Necessity (Without War no Trade under the Veil of Policing the World) and that the Elites will take care of us and have the answer to all our problems (whilst creating them)…It ain’t even our System that is Bad it is simply Hijacked by an Evil Cabal…If Man truly starts working together with the Right intentions there would be Less Mass-Migrations…because We as Human Species would be Helping Folks to Grow crops in the Desert…and build them a little Home with Clean Drinking water, a little Healthcare & Education in a Good Peaceful environment….this is what we are capable of….

oh I thought you were anti-Russia, never mind then

Slaves !

We never will slaves of usa , never !

Slavs.

Hypersonics missiles have existed since the 60’s. They’re called ICBM’s Einstein

ICBM goes aroun 4-6 Mach, while hypersonic can reach up to 20 Mach penetrating interception. :(

ICBM’s go faster than Mach 20, like Trident II

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I downvoted you ICBMs go Mach 20.

Okay, didn’t know that ICBM can reach over two earth escape velocities (especially from 60’s). :)

ICBM are not hypersonic

But that’s wrong, you fucking retard.

Well I was going to acknowledge my mistake but seeing as you are an abusive fuckwit, I withdraw. Here’s hoping the first missile hits your area and also hoping that the US is just annihilated. Can’t stand fucking septics.

They both have hypersonic missiles, but the US one is still in its infancy of development, whereas the Russian one is ready for deployment. There are at least 10-15 years technology gap if Amerika was to play catch up . .

I will be able to watch it unfold from my balcony.

Well you see Iran has an army, with tanks and stuff, if the US attacked Iran, Iran would overrun American troops in Afghanistan within days. It would be a real war, and the Taliban would cheer Iran for exterminating the American invaders.