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Decisive Battle For Krasny Liman. Overview Of Military Developments On September 30

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Decisive Battle For Krasny Liman. Overview Of Military Developments On September 30

Ukrainian flag in the village of Novoselovka

On September 30, the situation on the front lines in the area of Krasny Liman worsened for the Russian military. The Armed Forces of Ukraine continued their advance and almost managed to surround the town.

On the morning, Russian forces began their withdrawal from the village of Drobyshevo, located north of Liman, and the village of Yampol to the south of the town. The Ukrainian units which stormed the settlements are heavily shelled by the retreating forces.

Decisive Battle For Krasny Liman. Overview Of Military Developments On September 30

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Bypassing Krasny Liman from the north, the AFU occupied Kolodezi, Zelenaya Dolina. The road from the city of Svatovo to Liman was cut by Ukrainian forces.

At night, the Ukrainian offensive was stopped in the area of Stavki. At the moment, the front line runs along the southern outskirts of Stavki to the northern outskirts of Zarechnoe. To the north of Zarechnoe, the Ukrainian reconnaissance groups cross to the Zherebets River and operate in the area of the road to Svatovo. According to reports from the spot, the Russian military has recently sent reinforcements to the area.

The last road leading to Liman from Kremennaya which was used for the supplies of the Russian grouping came under fire control of Ukrainian artillery.

Despite the threat of blockade of the town of Liman, the Russian grouping is defending their positions. No evacuation of the Russian military from the town has been reported. On the evening of September 29, the local administration confirmed that the authorities did not leave the town.

 

 

Press service of the DPR People’s Militia:

The settlement of Krasny Liman. Of course, the “Road of Life” is under enemy fire, but you can drive along it. Our garrison in the city is not cut off from supplies. Locals of course are hiding in basements and shelters. It is rare to meet a passerby. The city is under constant shelling. The defenders of the city are not discouraged. According to the commandant, everything is under complete control. But once again, the situation is difficult.

Call sign “Hunter”, commander of the commandant’s regiment:

We are the military commandant’s office now in Krasny Liman. The operator will go outside, show the administration. There are troops here. Accordingly, if the military commandant’s office is in place, our line of defense is not broken. The city is standing, the troops are holding on, our morale is high as from the first days of the war. No one is discouraged. Everything will be fine, the victory will be ours.

The Ukrainian offensive operation is carried out by large forces, supported by foreign military equipment, including HIMARs MLRS. NATO military instructors provide the Ukrainian military with the necessary intelligence support, coordinate operations and command the Ukrainian officers.

The goal of the Ukrainian military is to cut communication between the LPR and the Belgorod and Voronezh regions of Russia. The AFU need to take control of the town of Svatovo and further threaten Starobelsk. If the AFU succeed, their advance will his will destroy Russian defences in the northern Donbass region. As a result, Russian-led forces may abandon the Severodonetsk-Lisichansk agglomeration.

The Ukrainian offensive in the Estuary has led to some success at a time when Russian President Vladimir Putin is going to sign an international agreement with the DPR, LPR and Kherson, Zaporozhye regions on their entry into the Russian Federation. Thus, the Ukrainian offensive leads not only to military, but also to media benefits.

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Lesco Brandon

Another disaster for Russia. Complete incompetence. Kharkov was understandable but Liman is inexcusable

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omenhr

Nah mate, the russians are masters of “maskirovka”. Ukrops will go deep in and russians will make cauldron, soon. Ukrop army is bleeding. I believe once the ground get frozen, tanks will roll in and finish them off.

jerrydrakejr

There will be no cauldrons. Simply, the Russians retreat slowly and continuously pound the advancing Ukrainians, who for their part suffer unacceptable losses for what they achieve. If the Russians decimated the Ukrainians while the Ukrainians were defending themselves in very well-fortified positions, you can only imagine how they suffer when they are on the move in the open without any air support and with very poor air defense. On the other hand, the Russians are making the same strategic mistake, again… first they gave up on the north-east of Ukraine and now they are not carrying out offensive operations on that battlefield, because in that case the Ukrainians would have to separate significant forces from the south and send them to the north. In the northeast, the situation is now such that the Ukrainians can comfortably place wooden tanks and paper soldiers on the border with Russia, because the Russian soldiers on the other side of the border behave the same way, completely inert and useless…

omenhr

I might understand your point here… keep in mind, Russians took north to Kharkiv two times, i mean they took it when they wanted to. Izyum was left, without a fight, but Krasny Liman, they are holding. Some estimations are 90000 russians troops are involved plus 60000 LNR&DPR troops. Some two third are in reserve, back, so estimation is 50000 on 1000km front line. Main focus is liberation of DNR, this is where storm troops are located and destroying Ukrops fortification. If we go back in history, Vietnam had 250 000 troops facing 560 000 US troops plus 600 000 south vietnam troops, yeah at some point in time. Ho Shi Minh said back then, we don’t want to win the war tomorrow, in a month or in a year, we want war to last, so that our enemy bleeds. To be honest Russia is fighting whole NATO along with Ukropistan. The best part is that EU and USA are spending more resources then RF. IMHO RF is doing exactly what Ho Shi Minh did.

Ericv

in 1941, the Soviet Union was swept away like Russia is now. They learned their lessons and build a new army in 1942 From the summer of 1943 the Red Army was unstoppable. Ukraine might have the upper hand now with all the western weapons and military technology, but Russia is learning and has been learning since februari. Most of all it has learned which commanders are decent, which tactics are obsolete, which weapons they need the most. It cost them a lot of material and manpower, but they still have an enormous manpower reserve and weapons reserve and war industry. During this winter, Russia needs to prove it has learned these valuable lessons. We will see. For Russia, these new territories are their honeland now. An attack on it with western weapons might provoke a nuclear response .

Markswell

Relax people. Ukraine can make all the gains they want. These gains will be reversed and Ukraine pushed out. By accepting these 4 territories as Russian, Putin does not have a choice but to liberate these territories.

Uncle Sam's Stupid Pet Tricks

I like to watch Europeans playing musical chairs and falling all over themselves when I yell STOP.

Marius

No. It’s vice versa: Kharkov was inexcusable, Liman is understandable.

Russians simply couldn’t organize new defenses nor they have enough reinforcements to cover this entire front after retreating from Khrakov/Izyum. Ukros know that and keep pushing at any cost, they have massive numerical superiority in both men and equipment, their losses are significant but not critical.

This was predictable 3 weeks ago, it’s actually some kind of success to delay Ukro offensive for this long. The real Ukro objective is Svatovo, eventually losing it means a major strategic defeat.

Kremlin delayed mobilization waaay too long, everyone knew this since February/March. Everyone except Russian leadership apparently… If they had enough reserves RuArmy could counterattack Stalingrad-style to inflict a decisive defeat on AFU. But they don’t, mobilized troops need a few more weeks, or even months for proper training and reorganization. Hopefully, Ukros will be stopped before they take Svatovo.

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Lord Humungus

Fair criticism. Objective. Hard to disagree. Russia will win the war in the end, but it is going to take them a lot longer. All I ask is that they start taking out the arms convoys. For the love of God, stop the arms coming into Ukraine.

yep

destroy the Dnepr bridges and also the power grids ffs , most of the Ukrop power generation can be wiped out in 15 minutes

hardy

Power generation will stop the trains but APCs, tanks and trucks use diesel. It can’t help that much on the frontline, just slowdown reinforcement.

War

Of course, there are no electrical tanks yet. But it will paralyze entire country. Morale will plummet. No electricity = nothing works. Winter is coming, let’s see them cheering to Bandera and Zelensky and enjoying internet memes in -25c in Kiev in January.

maharaja

It would be over by now had they done it. They the UAF could not move the required equipment to the front and no offensive would have taken place. I honestly do not think they have the ability to do it. There was an attempt that hit several power stations in the region then that stopped after one day and a five hour power outage.

Ed Theman

I believe russia does not do this because these things are very vulnerable and takes years to rebuild. UkrIne could then sabotage russias grid easily enough.

maharaja

You ever try and drive a forty year old tank or APC 2000 miles? They are not HONDAs. The failure of Russian to destroy those bridges and rails to this day is and will be one of wars biggest fuckin mysteries. But then again these are two sides that fight but help export grain, two sides that fight but ship oil and make payments to one another monthly.

Greg Galloway

Hard to understand why no Russian reserves are sent to the battle front in Svatovo or Liman ( might be too late or may be russian counter strike planned elsewhere?). Hope.

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jens holm

They dont have them. Get it.

Clever defence do work. They have eroded everything extra Russia had away.

Your hobby might be to learn about clever deep defence.

Its very much about so many parts of their military forces acts in very small groups and there hardly is no real front.

I take a short example most likely done north of Lyman as well. You send in grpups of 10 into a big area. They might even be divided in 2 groups. They are calm and not even fast. But they are silent and camoflaged.

They all are armed with one or two misslies of the smaller non tank kind. They know the enemies are there in smaller groups of soldiers, cars and by that are smaller targets.

They send up a small drone. If they can handle the target by their missiles and msall arms, they do.

If its big or hard armed targets, they drone see the GPS and tell it to the artilery 10 km away. Those arytillerists are ready for that. Grenades already are in the canon. So 4 minutes later fx 4 grendes from 4 canons arrrive. Many canons nowadays are quite accurate.

The drone observe the result.

And the soldiers eleminate the leftovers or just go looking for a new target.

By that those military forces dont arrive to the front or the arriving is very reduced.

jens holm

It was very visble in WW2 by USA.

USA had to make millions of soldiers very fast. By that the quality of their soldiers were much lower then the German ones. USA knew that.

So they compenstated by artillery and airplanes and did everything sometimes to a hard price to find german troops BEFORE they arrived to the USA front zone.

jens holm

It was very visible in WW2 by Denmark.

Denmark had to capitulate verry fast and so we did.

We surrendered in 5 minutes against two Germans on bicycles. We served them 5 years and now we serve Americans for 75.

Dave

After being liberated they purposefully let German refugees starve to death.

SlavaZ

Woah, jens holm said something reasonable and intelligent for once. Surely this is yet another sign of the end times.

Warrior Nation

Will the real Jens Holms please stand up, please stand up?

Arch Bungle

The real jens holm can’t stand up, he has ED.

maharaja

Who says they do not? I would not call this story the word of god. Look at a bunch of sites and make your own determination. They UAF has been at the door of Liman for what 10 or 12 days and they have not taken it. There are plenty of storys of troops going to that front. Talk of the newly mobilized? If Russia sends them here that would be a piss poor choice they should attack from Belarus on Kieve again but not decide to announce a retreat on TV and fight it out. Or Summy. The UAF would not be able to get back there to fight them…. except Russia would forget to bomb the trains so it would take the UAF like six hours to get there. Bridges and rails numero uno then attack from the north. Or somewhere they are not….

Dave

This is a report by the Russian news portal „Rybar‘“. It‘s more detailled and looks quite accurate. It seems imperative Russia strengthen the northern front. Failure to do so might result in a military desaster, difficult to undo by the new reserves. This is far more than a media campaign. It‘s a question of time, will Russian reinforcements arrive in time?

„AFU continue to encircle Lyman developing an offensive deep into the territory controlled by Russia.

🔻Ukrainian formations are advancing on Lyman from three directions – north, west and south. The capture of Lyman will make it possible to open the way for a further offensive on Kreminna and Rubizhne deep into the territories of Luhansk Region.

▪️On September 29, AFU managed to close the operational encirclement. While the assault on Drobysheve, Lyman and Yampil’ continues from the south and west, Russian Armed Forces’ defensive lines were pushed through from the north.

▪️Kolodyazi and Zelena Dolyna were taken, and the Svatove — Makiivka — Terny — Lyman road was cut off. Fighting took place on the northern outskirts of Zarichne, 3 km north of the only route linking Lyman with Luhansk Region.

▪️By the end of September 29, Stavky fell, but AFU failed to advance further from the north. By now the communication with Tors’ke is cut off by enemy’s artillery and mortar fire.

▪️Russian Armed Forces continue to fire on approaching enemy units. The first reserves are redeployed near Tors’ke. The 503rd Regiment with the servicemen mobilized on September 29 marched into battle trying to stretch the encirclement.

▪️On the night of September 29-30, Russian troops had to withdraw from Yampil’, and the defensive lines at Drobysheve were also broken through. The Lyman defensive line had narrowed to the administrative borders of the city.

🔻 If emergency measures are not taken to unblock Lyman and deploy a substantial part of the reserves as soon as possible, the town with its defenders will fall, and nothing will stop Ukrainian formations from developing an offensive deep into Russian territory.“

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OJ Simpson

they are already deep in Russian territory according to paper that incompetent idiot Putin will sign today

Michel LeBlanc

Perfect, now thats its official russian lands, the 300k men can clean that up.

Impatient fuckwit.

jens holm

None knows for sure the Q of those reinforcements

Dave

Mmmhhh… trying to provide the best available info and it gets downvoted. Nobody here seems interested in what‘s going on. Just spin.

jens holm

Very niice discription and map. I allow me to think You sould move the map focus a little more east and south.

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Ones a while i reply

If I read the comments on SF, it seems the Ukrainian army is made of lgbt queers. Yet they keep conquering back more land? So the Russian army is losing against a bunch of queers.. that makes it even sound worse lol.

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OJ Simpson

Putin, Shoigu and Gerasimov are 3 incompetent idiots

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jens holm

There’s some fake jens holm on here. I’m the only real one, a real trans who loves to suck American cocks.

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Ones a while i reply

Hahah that was funny, I must admit. To bad about the war, you guys do seem like fun people. Hopefully the war is over soon and we can go back to normal life and have a drink (u guys are good drinkers as well).

andy

welcome john saw your movies can not under stand the lack of but plugs

Emrisrex

Wake up Russia!

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Cromwell

What i can’t understand is why Russia doesn’t deploy all its air power.

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Hairy Pottattooes

What air power?

Johny cash

Cant even mobilise without fuckups, pathetic aint even the word. Playing with peoples lifes god help whoever serves under these muppets. Makes the us look like some super well grease machine. Russia is nutin compared to us sad to say

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kansas homo hillbilly

me love suck taliban penis

The Saint

What Lyman demonstrates is that if the enemy are willing to throw an unlimited number of bodies at a front line, then they will advance.

That is what Ukraine are doing, they have ‘blood to spare’ and are trading it for ground, but it cannot be sustained.

Whatever happens in Lyman over the next few days, it will be fully under Russian control soon enough.

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Dave

Yes, said it all along, not enough troops for that operation. Those Russian troops that are there are pretty competent. Again, reinforcements might arrive in the nick of time.

Putin is a genius

And while his soldiers are being slaughtered Putin is talking about gay marriage. He cannot organize a mobilization but he is worried about female emancipation. He sends men to war without proper training but he cares about the people.

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Dave

Nonsense. He talked about many things and for a very good reason. He appealed to a large conservative audience, not least in the West.

kansas homo hillbilly

moron American take 20 years humiliated by taliban—in 6 months there will be no ukraine

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Georgeous George

By now only 50-80k Russian troops in Ukraine. I guess the main goals is to avoid Russian casualities and decimate the Ukes at the same time. This means mobile warfare, retreat when necessary, and pound the Ukes mercilessly from afar.

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Datrum

Not much left for ruskies.

joe9211

fucking stupid coward traitor, this president putin.. he left behind tenthousands to be tortured or killed from the NAZIs..

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Putin is a genius

Forget about Liman, the UAF are already sending their troops to Luhansk.

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Ioan

That’s what happens when you set free Azov commanders and foreign mercenaries responsible for killing Russians. It emboldened new foreign mercenaries to join.

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Vanya

All of this is Putin’s fault, he is the one who destroyed the Russian army with his humanitarian nonsense.

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Vanya

The Ukrainian transport system remains untouched. All the bridges over the Dnieper stand. All the rail lines from Poland continue to bring in supplies. If the Russian MOD continues to refuse to fight in a normal manner Russia’s defeat is assured.

Bobo

Greater air support and cutting the nato Kiev supply lines would end any adverse by the Kiev regime. Russia has all the time in the world to deal with this but lives are being lost unnecessarily senior Kiev and nato people operating in West Ukraine need to be taken out as a lesson to the west

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rafik

First i thought Russia will finish within 4 months and take those territory the way they advance and attack but now i dont like what putin is doin giving up territory so easily. if Russia failed this international image of superpower will be drop and US will retain that and will get more attitude for being aggressor on other country . Putin should resign and hand over to Medvedev or someone more hardcore military strategist. otherwise, Russia will lose not only war but will also damage their weapon sale to other country.

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Hollerbusch

Urgently to increase hits now

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John Deer

Ukraine only has about a dozen NATO armored brigades with Ukie troops. UK is falling apart now, before our eyes. Sweden and Italy are rebooting.

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tom sawyer

Napoleon occupied Moscow—his vast armies demolished….my anus occupied by mulattos; my self respect demolished

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Sam

Let’s face it. Russia is humiliated in UA. Russia leadership role Russia to war with UA unprepared and with WW2 strategy and planning. The biggest failure is in Russia intelligence,

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