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On September 5th, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan moved towards directly giving Greece ultimatums and threats.
He said that Athens should enter negotiations or “face the consequences.”
“They’re either going to understand the language of politics and diplomacy, or in the field with painful experiences,” he said.
“They are going to understand that Turkey has the political, economic and military power to tear up the immoral maps and documents imposed,” Erdogan added, referring to areas marked by Greece and Cyprus as their economic maritime zones.
He said Turkey was “ready for every eventuality and result”.
Alongside his threats, reports surfaced with footage of Turkey delivering approximately 40 tanks towards the Evros River, along which the border with Greece runs.
Turkey deploys tanks to Greece border from Syrian border, Turkish private news agency İHA claims.
Approximately 40 tanks. pic.twitter.com/nnDrEegXsj
— Ragıp Soylu (@ragipsoylu) September 5, 2020
Reportedly, these tanks are there for deterrence, and not for any actual offensive actions.
The deployment was also allegedly planned long in advance, and is of no relation to the current deterioration of relations between Greece and Turkey.
According to Turkish state outlet Anadolu Agency, the transfer of the tanks was pre-planned by Turkey’s Second Army, based in the eastern province of Malatya.
As France is also involved in the conflict around Libya, the Eastern Mediterranean, and even Syria, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu called French President Emmanuel Macron “hysterical” over his stance on the matters.
Mevlut Cavusoglu emphasized that Turkey had foiled French hope for Libyan National Army’s Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar to capture the Libyan capital of Tripoli by providing military support to the internationally-recognized Government of National Accord (GNA), repelling Haftar’s assault back in June.
“In Libya they (France) supported the putschist Haftar and made a grave mistake,” he said, adding, “Things changed, balances shifted, Haftar was defeated and Macron became hysterical.”
Back in June, Turkey and France were involved in an incident when a French warship attempted to inspect a Turkish vessel as part of a UN arms embargo against Libya, and a Turkish warship protected the cargo vessel, which was more than likely actually breaching the embargo.
“With that hysteria, he didn’t know what to do. Right after that, he said our ships had harassed their ships in the eastern Mediterranean but couldn’t document this and was humiliated,” the Turkish minister said.
Cavusoglu also reiterated Ankara’s position that France was the country provoking Greece the most in the eastern Mediterranean conflict, calling on Paris to cooperate with Turkey to accomplish regional stability.
“There is no need for such hysterical behavior from France, it makes them look laughable. We are two NATO member countries.”
Turkey’s Foreign Minister also accused Greece of avoiding dialogue and lying after Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis denied it had agreed to NATO-brokered talks aimed at de-escalating tensions in disputed waters in the eastern Mediterranean.
“Let threats go away so that the contacts can begin,” Mitsotakis said earlier on Friday, prompting Cavusoglu to accuse him of “lying,” saying, “Greece denied the secretary general’s (remarks) but the one lying here is not the NATO secretary general, it’s Greece itself. Greece showed once more than it’s not in favor of dialog.”
Earlier, on August 30th, Erdogan called the leaders of France and Greecy “greedy and incompetent” for challenging Ankara’s energy exploration in the eastern Mediterranean.
“Do Greeks accept what could happen to them because of their greedy and incompetent leaders?” asked Erdogan. “Do the French know the price they will pay because of their greedy and incompetent leaders?”
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psychological projection by erdogon
To all erdodumbs…read my lips…o să sugeți pula cât de curând!…
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lol…stupid minor greek-gays who loves all diplomatic channels including anal-oral..ı dont even pay attention.. all ı know about greece is their capiatal city athens..sad..
Indians would prefer turkey to take over Chinese occupied east turkistan
sa sugi pula mahomedanule,in curind o sa dansam in Constantinopole,voi o sa dispareti necredinciosilor
was ist das? stupid asshole…this is how vezir f.cks your vlad..you were all our slaves…and flattering to see still have a butthurt…lol..enjoy the manga.. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/657cbed107a21ea3f7f7f23e55508896d023ebd295240fea3339754c39b7fac0.png
Paedophile pervert corpse-coupler. We know you well from your actions…
not me…but our vlad the impaler was victim for bashıbozouk…As I laid there, betrayed by the lord I thought on my side, made a monster in his name. I swore that I would never allow another monster like myself to exist in this world
All this is just posturing. Turkey will never challenge Greece backed by EU. Turk economy would collapse immediately under severe EU sanctions.
Fake news of the Turks,..For internal consumption.
https://twitter.com/AegeanHawk/status/1302283629608009729
Turkey and Greece are both NATO vassal states and most of the daily noise is just posturing for domestic audiences. Neither Turkey nor Greece can lift a finger without their master’s approval.
You really think so? That the US controls Turkey?
https://twitter.com/AegeanHawk/status/1302269102229278720
Sorry I don’t see a thing…maybe missing plug in or some of mine “pub” blockers
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhKSVDBWsAAGCeU?format=jpg&name=small
Geolocation of #TurkishArmy column with IFVs at Reyhanli city in Hatay province thanks to a screenshot from a Haberler short video about redeployment from Syrian-Turkish to Greek-Turkish borders near Adrianople (Edirne) in east Thrace.
Yeah they are driving around their armored forces and draining their treasury full speed, with all these posturing and participation’s in too many conflicts.
Erdogan is showing to be horribly impulsive and terrible strategist. Turk forces are so much dispersed all over the region from Iraq, Syria to Greek border and to Libya. If real war situation in these condition Greece would be a clear winner.
Screenshot from a Haberler video in Reyhanli Hatay province near Syrian-Turkish borders with #TurkishArmy IFVs on trucks trailers about redeployment to Greek-Turkish borders through #Iskenderun but one at least truck is in different direction https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhKgxIxXkAITunZ?format=jpg&name=large
So?
“Signal” to Greece that they are pissed and that they are serious about possible conflict. Messages like;
“We are positioned and ready!” “Greeks you are being warned that we will not hesitate to use a force to defend Turk interests (gas) in Mediterranean” Maybe that is also ADVICE through example to Greece, to work much more on your
anti-tank and artillery units because Turk attack on Greece can come one day not over the sea or air but over the direct attempt of land invasion of Greek territory.
For gas problem regions, is very simple.
All it takes that Greece invites French, German & US companies to do drilling in problematic areas and “problem” will be solved ! That’s exactly what Vietnam did to China by inviting Russian companies to do drilling on famous Chinese”9 dash line” which they consider border of their territorial waters. But when Russian’s started drilling there China did NOTHING ! Because Russia is practically their strategic allay so they couldn’t possibly start any problems with the Russian company. The same will happen with the Turks.
Neither do I..so it’s not missing plug or something..
EU, or at least France (and maybe others), will not only back economicaly but military too!…i am far from considering France an alpha nation but Macron’s latest statments vis-a-vis turkey were of an alpha male…i do believe France will (even unilateraly!) take action against turkey if they (the goatfuckers) will dare attacking Greece…
This has nothing to do who is “alpha male” and who is not. It is simple statistics. France was ALWAYS (together with UK) considered strongest military force in EU and strong arm of the EU (thus taking control of foreign policy of EU mostly while Germany was always about the economy in EU) Also France is now only nuke power in EU as well (specially when UK is out of equation now) I do not think that France will go that far to use any kind of military force against the Turkey. All that French posturing was to show Turkey her right place of subordinate to France-Germany EU. Nothing more and nothing less. France has strategic pact with Germany and they would never do any war incident, without consulting Germany.
Why would France defend Greece when that is role of NATO and EU as institutions? It is absurd to talk about those things because that will NOT happen ! There would be no need that EU fires a shot when they can, destroy Turkey economically completely ?!!! Once the starvation kicks in, installs in Turkey the Turks themselves would kill Erdogan !
“Why would France defend Greece when that is role of NATO”…well, maybe because France is part of NATO…
Let me try again with same question that you do not understand:
“Why would France defend Greece when that is role of NATO?”.
Maybe France is “part” of the NATO but US is NATO so it is up to US to defend Greece and not up to the France. And I am sure that US did just that already ….by telling Turks to calm down. There is no way in this world that Turkey would challenge them all !
Pointless to waste the time on such subject…
“Pointless to waste the time on such subject”…i agree with this one although i do not agree with “Maybe France is part of the NATO but US is NATO so it is up to US to defend Greece and not up to the France“…
“it is up to US to defend Greece” What I have meant is that US will tell Turkey to calm the fuck down with that NATO country against NATO country. And if Turkey continues with drama and keeps complaining than US will tell them to fuck off ! After that Turkey will calm down knowing that hole NATO is against them !
Not at all. Nato never protected Greece and in fact betrayed Greece publicly in 1974. Nato has always played favourites and still does. Greece must learn to act as if it will be betrayed by Nato all the time and fight Turkey asymmetrically and secretly, so Nato can’t protect her bitch , Turkey.
Greece is member of Euro zone now, it’s different than 74. If Greece fails, EU fails. EU and USA will not not tolerate Erdogan.
OK And why was that NATO reaction (Germany , US?)?
Because Turkey is bigger, thus more important for them, or? Didn’t international community support Cyprus Greeks against Turk invasion?
So what is this EU support for Greece (specially France) if not “support”? Aren’t they all telling Turks that they are going over the top by intruding in Cyprus territorial waters for drilling…….even US? Isn’t EU opposing Turk gas exploration and threatening with the sanctions?
That is my point. Noone supported Greece and Cyprus in 1974. NO allies ,noone. In fact ,tge friends and allies supported the aggressor and enemy -Turkey ,all along.Just lke they didn’t in 1922 and just like noone supported Yugoslavia against headchopper Moslems in the 1990s. The writing was on the wall in1974 when Christian Nato allowed enemy Turkey Moslems to attack a Christian state.
The problem with Greece is different since they are member of Euro zone now. If Greece suffers that will endanger entire EU economy.
If that happens NATO is over.
Who cares?
No one actually, especially me.
Nato is just dog and puppet of Israel
Very true, as are most countries on this planet sadly.
You keep talking about EU sanctions as if EU is the sole market for Turkish exports. You are commenting in ignorance regarding the Turkish economy. You are probably using info you learnt years ago. Today, 50% of Turkey’s exports go to EU. That’s a significant drop from the last two decades. Turkey is exploring new markets in Africa and Asia, investing heavily in the economy of Muslims countries from Somalia to Qatar, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia, Mali, Nigeria, Malaysia, Pakistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, and many others. Turkey has jumped from being the 50th largest trading partners for some of these countries to become among the top 5 trading partners. It is pretty clear that Turkey is gradually extricating itself from the West’s economy and moving towards Asia and Africa. So you stop spewing this bullshit about Europe destroying Turkey’s economy. Europe will be able to slow it down temporarily, BUT THEY WON’T BE ABLE TO DESTROY IT.
“You keep talking about EU sanctions as if EU is the sole market for Turkish exports” “Today, 50% of Turkey’s exports go to EU.”
Buy writing this you only show the magnitude of your IGNORANCE ! I do not want to waste my time with people as ignorant as you. You have no clue about economy if you think that country can survive without 50% of the market specially in global recession economy ! YOU ARE HORRIBLY IGNORANT !!!
More ignorant are you. My emphasis wasn’t quantitative. I was only pointing out a trend. And if you have any brains left in you big skull, you’ll notice that I said something about temporary harm to the economy, which will ultimately recover. What percentage of Turkey’s exports went to Europe in the late 90s and early 2000s? What about now? Why is the number falling?
Just go away not interested talking to you…waste of time
Yeah, cos someone got to talk to you. You have far too much freedom insulting others on this forum, and I was forced to respond due to you unfounded exaggerations about the extent of reliance of the Turkish Economy on Europe. Most European countries have Debt to GDP ratios of above 70%. Many are over 90%. Turkey is just 30% and continues to improve. Here’s an interesting excerpts about figure for the Turkish economy in the past 10 years or so.
Trade with Asia-Pacific has risen considerably in the last ten years from USD $15 billion to USD $50 billion – displaying still considerable upward potential. China is Turkey’s largest trading partner in Asia, its third-largest trading partner in the world after Germany and Russia, and is likely to overtake both very soon.
I don’t just like seeing people exaggerate.
Whatever. I am tired listening about mighty Turkey, the country that is in shit up to her neck and which will again become IMF and World bank slave. If you think that your Turkey is so mighty, go celebrating than !!!!
GO AWAY !!!!
You want it to be weak, but that doesn’t mean it’ll be. With a Muslim party in power, Turkey will witness a lot more progress regardless of what bad-belly people like you think. See how the economy of Turkey has multiplied over 20 times after the AKP party took power in Turkey: https://ms.hmb.gov.tr/uploads/2018/12/Ticaret-Politikasi-Asya-%C3%96rnegi.pdf
…via grants by Qatar,Eu/us and Soros. I can make any country make money if i give it free money to start with…
bro,speaking nicely with orthodox guys especially with balkans is useless so all you have to do open barrage fire not considering any living thing https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e95e4aede31fc360b6ec3a094df434eeff9ad244be48cd0dbef163eb0e3f915d.gif
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Turkey would be starving if it wasn’t for off the books grants to it by Qatar, the EU/US and Soros over the last 20 years. Just like Israel but just more secret. Who are you trying to fool?
Yep, I AGREE…He is biased too!..don’t get fooled by his alias..:))))
African Sunni fanatical about Turkey that is Assad major enemy and he doesn’t understand why people don’t like him or his Turkey !
I understand very well. It’s just the fire of disbelieve burning in your hearts. Once disbelieve encounters patriotic Muslims, it has zero tolerance for them. You may not know why you hate Turkey and any other country that supports them (here you’ll be disappointed because much of the Muslim world supports Turkey). You hate Turkey because of the Islamic patriotism of its government. You thought Islam is dead and it frightens and angers you to see that there are still Muslims alive that take Islam to new heights with Allah’s help. It’s a good thing when disbelievers start hating Islam so much. Cos as history shows, that’s when the Muslims unite and then defeat their enemies. So goodluck Muslim hater. You are doing us a favor.
It’s not only the exports, there is something even more dangerous;Turkey takes great loans from European banks, once they put a break on that and they make it official, next day Lira is toilet paper.
“Turkey will never challenge Greece backed by EU” Then let Greece try to military stop Turkey from its legitimate exploration rights.
” Then let Greece try to military stop Turkey from its legitimate exploration rights.”
That is what we want, but Germany and the United States will not let us. They are protecting their beloved child, Turkey.
Not for long, they are considering to move the toys from Icirlic airbase. Currently Turkey is allied more with Russia than with NATO
Turkey is far more important for a declining US than Greece which is an economic liability and offers no strategic value. Erdogan is a temporary phenomenon and Turkey will remain a US vassal and NATO cannon fodder as the US pivots to ant-China posture.
EU will stop Turkey….no need that Greece do anything.
Can’t you read?!
Yeah, Let it. We are watching. They’ve threatened the sanctions already. Or do you mean militarily? If so, expect to see Muslim countries deploy forces to defend Turkey. People like you tend to think there is no kind of unity whatsoever in the Muslim world. But should the EU attempt an invasion of Turkey, you’ll know there are a few Muslims countries united.
Go away you mumbling idiot ! The only ‘threat” you Muslims represent to Europe is as ILLEGAL EMIGRANTS !!! And nothing else !!!
Much of Turkey was a Christian land, and we took it. You can come take it back if you want. You may say whatever you want, but you can’t dismiss that Muslims represent a significant challenge to Islam-haters like you. Our situation is getting better. You may think that the current crisis in several Muslim countries is weakening us. But this is a blessing for those who know where it’s leading. You are a super dumb individual who just can’t stop posting nonsense. You got nothing to do at home but browse the internet?
Go away you idiot ! I am IDIOT hater I was never Muslim hater ! I hate IDIOTS like you!
But I do not still like your Turks also…and so fucking why not? You talking about things that have happened 15 centuries ago you IDIOT !!! Why would I care about that? Your Turkey is one shitty but big country with not much importance! FUCK OFF FINALLY !
“You talking about things that have happened 15 centuries ago” It’ll happen again if you don’t stop messing with us. It did happen during the crusades. But what’s coming will be much worse for you if you don’t mind your business.
FUCK OFF ALREADY YOU FUCKING ILLEGAL EMIGRANT !! They have to collect you like floating TURDS all over Mediterranean so that you can come to Europe and be useless parasites ! *JUST FUCK OFF nobody cares what some another Sunni LUNATIC THINKS !!
To illicit such anger from you, then this Sunni lunatic is really touching a raw nerve. You fuck off, not me. It’s about time you knew that your mighty EU is collapsing and will go bankrupt in a decade or less. You keep making comments on things you have no knowledge of. The reason I’ll stick to this forum is because of people like you.
ye ye ye !
Europe is “collapsing” that is why TRILLION Africans and Asians 99% Muslims run away from their SHIT HOLE countries! Go away you idiot !!!!
I really like generally your comments but this emigration is created and controlled by the whole west, Europe and israHELL included…
It is just that this African Sunni lunatic who has decided that he loves Erdogan is going onto my nerves. He is anti Europe, even though I really tried to convince him that Turkey is wrong country to support and that he as Sunni should try to look for better Sunni country to adhere to. He is so aggressive with his usual Muslim fanaticism, hates non Muslims and he probably is already in Europe.And that thought makes me angry, that Europe has decided to replace their own population, with low lives like him.
Of course that I understand who has created immigration. I was there when that old mad cow Merkel has wiped out all EU borders by inviting illegal emigrants without any kind of papers to Germany(and to rest of the EU (practically))! That was literally invitation to all misery of Africa and Asia to come to Europe and that process will only get much worse and push Europe in civil riots and deep crisis.
You’re the lunatic. On one hand you claim to love some Muslims. On the other hand you condemn the entire Muslim world with your accusations of migrants. And you present no proof. Someone just corrected you that less than 1% of the world migrate yearly, and probably not mainly to Europe. Your dream of EU power is exaggerated. You’re islamophobic even if you deny it. But that’s your business. Go hang for all I care. Many before you have hated and fought Islam. But has any succeeded in stopping it? Islam still attracts more converts around the world (particularly Europe and America) than any religion. And there’s no reversing this trend no matter how much terror propaganda you and your governments spread.
I know how the world operates and thus am aware of zio /US and islamist intent and danger.
That makes me Islamophobic, yankee and Zio phobic? If so ,good …because my expectations have been proven over and over the last forty years.
Not a self- fulfilling prophecy at all as I had no control over events at all.
I was just right and more people shoulld be like me.. Islamophobic,Xiophobic and Yankeenatophobic.
The less Islamists ,Zios and Natoists interfere and conteol the world the better for all of us…
Indeed, but he is blindly hates every Turk good or bad.
Immigration is a political and economic tool for the west.
The world’s population is 8 billion and less than 1% from any continent immigrate on any given year. The only exception was the 2015-16 influx of Syrians, invited by the Angela Merkel. You really need to finish high school and take anger management classes for delinquents. Most of Asia has a higher standard of living now.
You are offended because Muslim and things you say are total nonsense.
Because you are repeating same propaganda from Western mass propaganda media. That are trying to hide the facts that European elites (not only Jew Soros and super rich Jews) are working on systematic replacement of the population that (at the moment also represent huge extra expenses for economies in recession) Purpose of the “replacement” is to destroy cultural, religious and any other identity or reference and that is also supported with mass propaganda of all kinds of perversions on the West and replacement of basic moral values, to destroy family as basic structure of every society.
So future European society is to be atomized without, family, religion, nation, culture or tradition as point of reference for one purpose only to be easier CONTROLLED ! Objective is to build totally HETEROGENEOUS society of individuals that is incapable to gather together and put up the resistance against European elites
Again:
Millions of Muslims have invaded Europe and they still keep coming and they will continue coming even more in the future. Everything goes according to their plan! I get angry when I tell people to GO AWAY plenty of times and they keep coming back with the same bullshit ! I have no need for anger management but need for blocking idiots.
Block me you moron. Your anti-islamic sentiments have blinded you with hate. You want secular Muslims and abhore religious ones. Who are you to ask that we stop adherence to our religion?
NOTHING WRONG with being religious!!! I am religious too and I also believe in existence of God – Allah! I don’t want that Muslims fight each other, I am not Zionist! I do not want terrorists to come to Europe with their extremism but they do come and they do make LOTS of PROBLEMS ! Adhere to your Erdogan as much as you want I do not give fuck ! There are plenty normal Muslims who do not dream about war all the time!
Turkey represents nothing against West or against Russia and China so keep dreaming!! You are BLOCKED !
“Most of Asia has a higher standard of living now.” Most of Asia yes , yet Muslims keep invading Australia, Europe and not some Muslims rich countries. And why is that?!! Why the fuck do they arrive all the way from Pakistan, Afghanistan to Europe as illegal emigrants?! What could possibly have Pakistani common with European culture and tradition? Why don’t they go to rich Muslim countries that are much closer? Instead we have Sunni terrorists who keep repeating terrorist attacks all over the Europe and Western media keeps minimizing problem of Muslim terrorism and criminality that has arrived with these illegal emigrants.
What an ignorant stupid ass. Most African migrants to Europe are Christian prostitues. I know because it is a serious problem in one of our neighbouring countries. I hear your white European men are so much in love with black pussies and pay much higher for black prostitutes. So thousands of jobless ladies flock to Europe for prostitution, returning after making a small fortune to invest in local businesses and start a family. Most return kind of rich compared to their friends at home. Your European White women are also crazy over black cocks, so it’s a
I hope all you say is true, EU collapse and go bankrupt, there will be no jobs and free stuff for migrants so they can finally return in their habitat.
Unfortunately they won’t go back. They will start riots. They think that the jobs and free stuff you referring are their belongings .
Yes, I know it will start like that. But it will end by deportation. EU economy is collapsing and the independent parties are rising.
That is quite idiotic thinking. No one will going anywhere, if anything Europe will be more diversified in the next decade, thanks to NATO destabilizing the Middle East and Africa. Half of Lebanese population wants to move to Europe, along with Iraqis and Syrians. Turkey if pressed will open the floodgates again.
Haha Europe is in crisis and is waking up. The Muslims should be deported to fight NATO destabilization in the Meadle East.
You are collapsing now
You seem to be an uneducated attention seeking loudmouth who unable to post without insulting others. It would be wise to seek adult assistance.
And you seam to be offended Muslim hiding the real reason of your complaint. I have nothing against Muslims but I had to find the way to offend that African Sunni idiot (Erdogan lover!) who keeps bothering me with same bullshit all the time! I have told him plenty o times to go away and leave me alone so he would not listen.
So yes in that case, I do insult with anything that crosses my mind
Good to know you are getting pissed off. Maybe you’ll learn to think before you comment. Your alias should be: muslim-hater
Pissed off because of your frustrated comments or repeating the same bullshit about Muslim imaginary NOT EXISTING “might”?!! I get upset when people are boring and never stop when they are told to STOP !
I am pissed off that European elites together with super rich Jews are systematically sending a TERRORISTS from Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq, Libya to Europe. These young people are in majority cases either criminals running away from law or terrorists and that is the last thing Europe needs! People like you are huge pain in the ass for Europe and HUGE WASTE OF MONEY that is needed for EU to get her economy out of recession !
I was labeled Jew hater I can be labeled Muslim hater i do not care : I only hate Erdogan and all the Zionist regimes supporting Islamic terrorism and I also hate all terrorists who happened to be Sunni but I do not hate Shia or Sunni Muslims !
Since you are full of shit and I NEVER have any decent comment from you you are BLOCKED !
Fuck you. I blocked you too moron
You know that whatever you achieved militarily or diplomatically post Inonu era (and particularly post WW2) is because your patrons -that you were BJ night and day non stop on you knees- allowed, ensured and in many cases executed themselves because of your almost legendary incompetence, and internal disunity. Till now you only have numbers to show (except in economy) and that is all.
Yeah, and those numbers will morphe into a massive resistance that leads to victory. It’s always been like that throughout our history.
Change your name to fundamentalist after this post. Then stop dreaming everybody in Mid East hate you for starting fucking with their internal issues and try to dominate them. FFS muslim is like saying cristian and means nothing except to those that wand a civilization war (dreaming sins no faction is a block or will be under church)
Yeah, you can call me a Muslim fundamentalist. Because I advocate for a return to Islam the way Prophet Muhammad (SAW) brought it. Same with Erdogan, Al-Sarraj, Qatar’s Emir, Pakistan Foreign Minister, Malaysia’s prime minister, and many others. I see our numbers and power growing. Which is why there is so much struggle in the Muslim world.
Trends in politics are coming and going depending to geopolitics and geo economics. Yes civilisational ties help or influence such moves but does not make solid blocks. See all multi state organizations. As of prophecies lets leave them alone and to the side and remain objective. At this point all those politicians are trying to ride ethno-religious-nationalism in order to further their political survival so they dont really mater since in a few years might be out. What would mater is a massive popular move towards what you describe and i see none reported.
I’m not talking prophecies here but reality on the ground. You can see there’s an intense struggle going on between the Islamists and secular (hypocrite) Muslims. In Tunisia, Turkey, Libya, Egypt, Algeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, and others. It wasn’t the case three decades ago. The interesting fact is that more countries are undergoing this change. For this to be happening simultaneously in multiple Muslim countries is beyond ordinary. Something big is underway. I don’t expect this pro-Islamic wave to die down anytime soon. Bahrain will very likely see massive anti-regime protests after normalizing with Israel. UAE is not beyond protests too despite its heavy surveillance of citizens.
I only see semi secular nationalism going around in the Iranian prototype. Because they know that full medieval can cut it in the modern world so… wishful thinking is not a good thing. And still what you avoid to address is that even with same religious tenets you still have to address the national diferencies. And Turkey is a vampire state since the foundation of Ottoman state. And the region has a huge memory.
Well Erdo has already under his command the jihadis created by israHell and murica ,i i doubt they are more jihadis left around…
There is no need of invasion of Turkey, but they can try turn it into Syria.
They are welcome to try. As if they hadn’t tried before. The coup attempt of 2016 was a gift to us. This is where I like Russia the most and hope Putin will read the patriotic storm sweeping the Muslim world and align with the Winners, not dictators.
What Muslim patriotic storm, making alliance with Israel under Trump supervise? Erdogan is high on words meanwhile Lira is losing power.
It is doubtful that any Muslim nation will defend Turkey, who are you suggesting? Most of the Arab world despises Turkey, the rest are in Asia and Africa and would hardly lift a finger for Turkey. But all that is hypothetical as there is no “Muslim World” as such, just a mostly impotent neo-colonial failed states. The real problem for the US in particular, and the west in general is the rise of China and Asian economies which have devastated the west.
Europe attempting to invade Turkey will surly spark a Muslim Vs Europe war with hundreds of thousands of volunteers (me and my friends included) flocking to Turkey. Expect the Taliban, Pakistanimilitary, Azerbaijan, Malaysia and Indonesia (in the form of economic support), Qatar ( with whatever it has). There’ll be fighters coming from Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, and many other countries. People tend to underestimate Turkey’s popularity in the Muslim world. A growing number of the world’s most influential Muslim scholars are calling for a boycott of Saudi Arabia. The OIC is split with Saudi Arabia having far less support than Turkey/Pakistan camp. Things are only getting better for Turkey with an ever expanding economic and military cooperation agreements with Muslim countries. The only thing Europe can do is sanctions. Militarily, they won’t even dare. They remember the crusades well and how it ended for them. They’re also economically at their weakest. They are less United than during the papacy. So yes, Turkey may appear alone, but it isn’t. And you may think there is no any kind of Unity in the Muslim world but there is. Just that it doesn’t involve so many countries that is why people fail to notice. Erdogan’s effort is to currently unite as many muslim countries as possible. And he’s achieving great success to the defect, that is why you Muslim haters on this blog hate him so passionately. But most of the Muslims of the world love him more passionately than you hate him. And you are trying to Misinform ignorant Muslims that Turkey Harbour some imperialistic dreams of dominating the Muslim world. Not knowing that Turkey has been taken over by real Muslim patriots determined to resurrect islamic patriotism from among the Muslims of the world.
After a week of war Athens will be left with 50 or more fighter jets and Ankara with ZERO fighter jets. Please, brother, go fight the Libyans and the Syrians! Go kill some Muslims and leave Christians, like the Greeks, in peace! If you do I promise I will visit Ankara and buy 10 pounds of baklava. May Allah bless baklava country!
It is already colapsing, that’s why they start screaming
Won’t happen. I wish it would but it won’t. German /Eu /Nato zio us interests and money favour the Turds. Greek allies will fight Turkey Moslems to keep them out of Europe down to the last GREEK soldier. Lol
Rumor could even be spread by turkish administration for political reasons, but unlikely to move from Syria border to Greece border. Too far and pointless as bases near Greece have similar equipment anyways. Perhaps using maintenance move as “news”
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Greeks will roast you into burnt kabob, please do it :)
Can you say the end of NATO ?
New NATO flag. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhDuD8kWAAAE915?format=jpg&name=small
I hope so
We all do.
me too…nato is useless suitcase…
AMEN!
We have taken Anatolia from them & still got it.
It’s İSTANBUL for 567 years.
We have invaded greece (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Greece) and ruled nearly 4 centuries.
We have invaded Cyprus twice. First in 1571 and second in 1974.
In short, we own all them have once ..why not?
yes and were is you real country? you dont even know…who owns your country? Mongolia? China? Khazakstan? you have no idea lol
real country?what are you joke from chewing gum…ı came to Anatolia at 1071 and turned up-side down all europe,middle-east,north africa and gulf states etc.. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/01dfdc6b8ce2c667cdc8426daa4738c25e71fe725a4f2352e0c8f33a972ba4b0.gif
Because you are a Mongol, you did not become Bruce Lee xa xa xa idiot.
ahah funny boy yes ı am mongol…
Yes you are…
ahahah u have no country…and you are mongol slave not mongol…turks were the mongols slaves and they (the mongols took your land)…you are a turk…like a little homeless gypsy …sooooorry
ı am curious about your history books at primary schools…
By the way I’m Romanian and you turks despite harrasin us for centuryes we did give you some lessons under Vlad the Impaler,Stefan the Great and Mihai the Brave for all you robbed us,rape our women,take our boys as eunucs and soldiers,steal our gold etc. You turks are not liked in Europe historically! I’m just sorry for you to see how this facscist-capitalist anglo-saxon zionist perverse and pervert cardboard empire is playing you big time for some decades now…
you europeans are not liked historically in Middle-east-africa as well!!!..ı am just sorry for you to see romanians licking the balls of Usa..The Americans will cancel the loans and you be up the creek without a paddle… if you can’t take the heat, don’t play with fire..you are bumper toy-state and designed as cheap labour force for Eu…
At least they work in EU. Turks just steal and ask for social help in EU.
Yes, because they’re low life garbage.
no they dont steal and they are really hard working…however writing bs is free..
German statistics say 95% of the turkish immigrants are unemployed. The other 5% probably sell kebab to the 95%.
German statistics said %95 before ww2 they will invade all europe and half soviet union..
I will tell you now you know what Erdogan is much worse than the Gulen it will come at some point that you will be shocked
tsk tsk turkish guy…hadi türkçe konuşalım…
I’m not a fan of them but I support Ekrem Imamoglu we are trabzonlu;)
tabi canım benim..tıkandın demek..
i cant write turk so much i live in Europa
a po-russki?
do not you believe me I am a Turk haha you are sick in the head if you meet me you are just weird
sure you are…
shall we bet for 100,000 TL that I am a Turk if you do not believe in me then let’s we meet one day I come with my father
He said hard working. They’re misbehaving bunch of garbage involved in every criminal activity. Tell Servet to go find his goat. Fucking bum.
“We have invaded Cyprus twice… We have invaded greece”
Fortunately you admit it publicly.
yes you can show my post as a proof to United Nation..and you can take cyprus back..
Who cares about you, poor thing ??
Forget about him, he has a little Japanese girl as an avatar. He doesn’t know even who he is.
” We have taken Anatolia from them & still got it. It’s İSTANBUL for 567 year”
Nothing good lasts forever , change comes with the fall of Trump and America.
Don’t worry greek brother after the war coming Mama Russia will give Greece Constantinople back! AMEN!
ı forgot to say Fun Fact: Vlad Tepes was so feared by the Turks, that after they got his body they took it to the holiest temple, embalmed it with holy rituals, burried him there in a nameless stone coffin so noone could find him and put symbols of crosses (not christian) onto the walls, warnings of plague, bad ill, demons, devils and the undead. They did this because they feared that after what he done, he could return as a spawn of hell.
He de-moralized Turkish armies with man pulled onto stakes, and very succesful guerilla attacks. When the Turkish finally reached his capital, they were already afraid. They retreated when they saw the forest of impalled man, with the emissars head on his walls.
In his later years he was hated, by the people and the nobles, because in his vengeance crusade he slaughtered 40 000 citizen around the border and impalled them. Man, woman, old and young. This is where his nickname comes from Vlad The Impaller…..Mama Russia is licking our cocks at Antalya…AMEN…
Have you read this part of history in Bram Stoker book, right? Naughty turk!
no ı read it from alucard-hellsing manga..it was well known fact which explains his impaling obsession
Never heard of it. Probably one of the great sultan books. Like the one in this movie, which probably made you already wet (but made me laugh): https://youtu.be/-yreqzf28bU
no one is wet but seeing you sneaking on my posts is priceless..
Oh, sorry, I didn’t know you made it. I found it at the category “smart as a turk” in my news agregator. Put a stamp on it, please.
what if ı put my finger?
*in erdogan’s butthole
exactly there, servet knows where the good stuff is as an homage for the video above, who made him feel so proud!
to your mommys pussy…and the icon guy…
that’s your daddy’s anus… now take out your finger and put your nose there… turkish delight.
lol..you are the ones who are experiencing turkish delight especially the hairy ones …even gifting to your neighbours,kids
Turd, your mama is licking cocks in german brothel, while you licking your daddy’s cock and your grandpa’s cock (*turkish tradition)
actually your grandpa IS your daddy (another turkish tradition)
bullseye speaking of whores here is our anonymous hooker…lmaooo
Yeah, I’m sure your mom is anonymous…
And ok u invaded blah blah and what you have today nothing.
Save your breath bro. Can’t help people having Stockholm syndrome.
Yes, but you planned to reach Rome and conquer all Europe. It didn’t happen. You were stopped at Danube by small countries. Now you are planning again. Never learn anything.
we are not planning anything..how can we invade any country in modern era?such pointless,sick comment from you…
But you plan to invade Syria, Irak and Greece, little Japanese girl!
its tokyo ghoul prick..you think every man with moustache is your father?
Your history is only invasions and stealings. You haven’t create anything.
ı have created you Luke!!..I am your father…
Your name, serviette, means sanitary napkin , ???
Erdodic is losing what’s left of his sanity.
Turkish tv be like. xa xa xa
https://twitter.com/thedukeoriginal/status/1302375011689340930
Where are the tanks on the video?
to all anti-turks.. accept my gift please…sabah-akşam ananızı götünden sikeyim… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cb5d25bd0727af3f8e3c4ef93cd447ff58b0b8252b9b927a05f0fc8535ac3abb.gif
English please.
gif is clue:ı was wishing healthy life with full of love…
Greek foundries need a lot of raw material. Nice one!
Turkey 2023 should include east turkistan.We Indians would prefer turkey over Russia and China
No you would. You have elected an anti Islam government. Indians would hate Turkey
Geopolitics is changing.. to crush China we would do anything I guess.
Turkey going to isolated itself and will be humiliated. They trying to play a supper power game and they don’t have that kind of muscle. Play with fire and you will he burn,the West will not allowed turkey to became a super power. I can see French and greece got to war with turkey and the United States of America will support it cause they ca use the kurds to cut a portion of turkey to create a new States,with the Edrogan government remove they will have a guarantee for longer time frame for they strategic base in turkey. The turkey can’t handle a war with France and turkey,Cyprus and yet maintain they operation in Syria and Libya and the operations against th Kurds. The Russia might not agree with such military move against the Turkish but they will not intervene. I could see nation like isreal,Saudi Arabia and Egypt pressuring the United States of America for a green light for such military operation.
However, will Russia supply Turkey in that conflict ? Will China ? Both would love to see the destruction of NATO and the subservient governments in the counties you mentioned.
Silly question ! If Turkey has enough gold to pay why wouldn’t they supply weapons against NATO? Turkey would NEVER abandone NATO without entering another alliance
Greece and Turkey were at war in 1974 and both were Nato so it has happened before.
Good, valid point. But that was era of “cold war” they couldn’t possibly afford dismantlement of NATO ! Now is totally different situation with Macron calling NATO “brain dead” and EU trying to start EU defense forces. NATO is infinitely weaker and less united.
So you think that EU and US are not trying to influence Turkey to calm down the tensions? Do you think that there is no danger of NATO falling apart in the case of new Turk-Greek war?
Also, this time it might be much bigger war since Turks are fighting on multiple fronts.
Also ever since the last war, Turkey seam to be the guilty party in the conflicts permanently.
Greece should unify with Southern Cyprus and deploy troops in Libya to defeat Turkish mercenaries. Then with the navies of Libya, Egypt and maybe even Israel and France push back the Turkish navy.
That would mean the end of NATO.
Nato has been no friend ofGreece so who cares?
So Greece should leave right ? Whats the holdup ? Because Greece has no free agency. BTW, NATO can burn in hell for all I care.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/25dd279585d85b401e6ac2cb9289878bcfb11159da54d6b15917a697fcc59d0b.jpg
Love him or hate him Erdogan sticks to his guns, unlike many other leaders.
And do not forget to throw the rubbish today is Sunday!
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finally something inside Erdogan’s head!
Xa xa xa Yes. !!!! Trash
….fight against Turkish trolls.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg7E-pMXYAcui3f?format=jpg&name=small
Turks will never attempt something to the place that is heaviest guarded . They can do something only into a tiny islet without residents.
Stupid OTTOMAN he thinks he can go on wars on 5 fronts, what you think ottoman, you are on too many places unfortunately its your proxies, but Greece is not Haftar forces or Al-Qaeda in Idlib or PKK in Iraq, they are equal adversary to you what you have they have.
All this Turk posturing is for domestic consummation. For gullible Turk population troubled by the economic crisis in Turkey So Erdogan tries to make them forget about their existential problems with more nationalistic posturing and war drums ! There will be NO WAR ! This is just wasting lots of money on transport of the armored vehicles.
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Onky a problem if Qatar and others stop giving Turkey free money .
without Germans help Greeks dooooom long ago
Germans are on your side like they always have been re karagiozo!
And if Putin wasn’t on your side the Kurds would be in Ankara!
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qatar needs the protection provided by the turkish base in qatar or it will quickly be overtaken by a hostile mohammed bin salman and an equally hostile bin zayed since you can’t be friendly with Iran (as per the instructions by the stupid yankee-twats in the white house) even if you share one of the biggest gas fields ever found!
Ha siktir pezevek. re souvlaki gay https://media4.giphy.com/media/LSLhspQ1g7dzG/giphy-downsized-medium.gif
Της μαμας σου το μουνι μεμετο – πουστρακι !
Where is Kemal reis ρε μαλακα ?
hahahahaha
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Time maybe to free Constantinople. A Greek “blitzkrieg” move towards the Bosphorus and the destruction of its bridges, and Turkey would never again recover Constantinople.
I agree .it would be poetic indeed…
and do what with it? east thrace has a total of 15 million population, what will we do with them? relocate? ethnically cleanse them? integration is impossible at this numbers and if it was there are no money for the such programs
It will be less than 1,5 million left after the war .
When you explain how without war crimes that the greek conscript army will not commit even under orders or threats then we can discuss it. (And no the turk population will not just pick up go on their own just because)
Nuclear weapons
Dont have them, wont buy them, and if we would would use it only in defense. Furthermore who would be the moron to nuck the areas that wants to occupy and use, or the the by caltural monuments in the only two citys in the area Andrianople (just of the greek borders at fallout distance) and Constantinople… Stop fucking dreaming.
They will nuc Ancara. ( I like you when you call it constantinople )
Ancara maybe its a legit target in war and a decapitation strike would be possible in order to stop war or as a reprisal but we are talking here Eastern Thrace and its population of 15 mil…
(There are only two names for that city byzantium from the ancient one (now like a surname) and constantinople, instanbul its the current nickname :P )
Time maybe 2 free Salonika.. doesn’t hurt the dream
Turks = Turds
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has reportedly complained about France’s moves in the Eastern Mediterranean to German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
The issue of the Eastern Mediterranean was discussed in a telephone conversation between Merkel and Erdogan.
The Turkish president complained about France, telling Merkel that she must do something herself so that France does not get involved in Turkey’s plans in the Eastern Mediterranean.
He essentially told her that the French aircraft carrier “Charles de Gaulle” has no job to being in the eastern Mediterranean and by what right is France interfering in Turkish affairs.
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good erdogan, end the farce called greece, incorporate cyprus and crete and the rest of the crappy little jew infested country!
“Things changed, balances shifted, Haftar was defeated” —> Haftar controls all major oil fields and 80% of Libya, except Tripoli. Ankara is deluded in this matter.
well someone please nuke greece:::… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/80dcf709859872d58b74da9f15a9b79e37729e13eb46fc0644630dd8debec4dc.gif
hahahaha The Turks !
Such loving people !
Thats why everybody loves the Turks, cause of people like you !