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Back in October 2020, video footage was released showing the first Orion-1 long-flight duration reconnaissance UAV, developed by the Russian company Kronstadt.
It was shown in a lengthy video, showing off other UAVs, alongside it.
The isolated footage of the Orion-1 is below, with a Russian voiceover by the developer company:
An important feature of this device is that it has passed the entire cycle of state tests and is ready for mass production, in addition to its first unit being delivered to the Armed Forces.
All other UAVs, which, perhaps, in theory have even better combat characteristics, are still under development or testing. The “Orion-1” is ready for battle.
There is also a strike drone version of it called the Orion-3.
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The Orion belongs to the class of medium UAVs and occupies a niche between the large S-70 Okhotnik and small reconnaissance aircraft.
It features a gasoline engine with a capacity of about 100 horsepower, which is located at the rear of the fuselage. Due to the use of composite materials in the structure, the drone, which is quite impressive in size, weighs only about a ton. The maximum height is 7,500 meters, its speed is 200 kilometers per hour. The flight is controlled by an operator via a radio channel, the signal range is 250 kilometers.
Its characteristics are very good. Maximum takeoff weight – 1000 kg, payload weight – up to 200 kg. The flight duration is 24 hours.
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Its typical armament consists of guided aerial bombs weighing 20 and 50 kilograms with a folding wing, which allows them to glide exactly to the target. Also in the arsenal are KAB-20 corrected bombs, small-sized missiles.
The UAV control center includes the commander station, drone control operators and payload control operators. Everything was initially designed so that there was no need to use professional pilots. Takeoff and landing are also carried out automatically, the operators make sure that an emergency does not arise, and, if necessary, can stop takeoff or give the command to go around when landing.
It is noteworthy that the landing system has three distinct work modes.
The first is satellite navigation, the so-called “peaceful” method. But in wartime, satellites can be disabled, disabled, or drowned out. In this case, there is a second system – radar. For Orion, a special two-band landing radar has been developed, which has already been repeatedly used in practice in extreme conditions – the UAV was tested in Syria. The third landing system is laser, in case there is a powerful jamming for the radar system.
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“But in wartime, satellites can be disabled, disabled, or drowned out.”
Too much Internet for today!
if against the us and china,yes, but for other countries such as turkey, nope
Engines,electro-optics are not russian..xD
What are they?
Austrian engine Rotax 914 and electro-optics from south-african company DS Optronics.. Another russian drone Orlan-10 also full of foreign components https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f54a31e35f89b5849c351370700e876173a3438035e8ba4bb9f9726063994155.jpg
USSR is spinning in its graveyard
Run…he is coming…xD https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/944c89b8ff919f2a73f47fde94bbad7a73e99321b6684d2e899d1ace1157ff01.gif
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Like Bayraktar tb2
Like Bayraktar tb2
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Partly..
What is Turk on that drone, apart from the Turk flag?
And the US stopped selling parts to the drone to Turkey. Will be interesting to see how the Turks will deal with these issues.
They will put image of wings on magic flying carpet, so BT2 will become FC1 (Flying Carpet 1) https://www.chelseacleaning.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/magic-carpet-1001-nights-1.jpg
only the name and the flag
U.S. drones also use Rotax like the Predator. Turkish too probably. Why reinvent the wheel?
thats my point besides its cheap and reliable..We are also using Rotax 912
Russia can makes its own components without foreign support….if they buy foreign components is for 2 reasons…1º To study them…2º because for example Austria buy to Russia all gas and petrol that they need among others resources….the same case with Switzerland!
While Russia could build their own components it’s hard to justify if you can get them from an existing supplier who’s producing at scale at a fraction of the cost.
The objective of building a drone is to get it in the sky working for you. The bomb you drop on your enemy doesn’t care where the engine was built.
If Russia gets sanctioned out of using the Austrian engine then they spend the time and money designing and building their own. As long as they’re buying Austrian engines for example resources like engineers and factories can be used on other projects.
In the Soviet days they built everything they could because they were effectively cut off from the western world …. they don’t have that problem today.
the info graphic you linked seems wrong since as far as i know the Orlan-10 has no forgen components in it (the export version might have them thats quite common in export products) Also i love how you forget to mention that only the first prototype of the ORION had that engine and those optics the company themselfs say that the engine and optics on the production version are of Russian manufacture they littearly say it even in their promotional video how the hell did you miss this?
1)Orlan 10:it may be wrong or correct but just like in turkish drones Russians also prefer foreign components in initial stage(there is nothing wrong about that supporting scale economy as well).. 2)Orion ı get from a russian open-source which ı extremely trust..ı will not reveal it but phrase is” изготовляет ЮАРовская DS Optronics , а в НПК СПП дособирают Argos, включают несколько своих комплектующих и кожух. Причина? Весовые характеристики. Аналог из российских комплектующих будет на 37-45% тяжелее. which shows that Russian will focus on miniaturizing these components eventually…Didnt watch the promotional video but officially orion is operative with rotax-14 if not can you provide the link please of orions with russian engine..
oh it is very very very wrong tho that news agency is not exactly known for its accurate reporteing so i am not that supprised also dosent matter if its wrong or wright its a simple fact that the Orlan-10 has no forghen components in it.
Also littearly on Kronstat’s english version promotional video they say the drone is made with only Russian components and materials……and its well known that the Orion is fully made in Russia only the very early prototypes had forghen components to ease up on the testing time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEHXdogxgwM
at 0:40 sec it clearly states what i said and it makes sence since the engine houseing dosent match that of a Rotax engine also the Optronics company dosent do buissnes in Russia its on the sanction list……
it supplies components to Moscow firm НПК СПП and goes further.. Обзорно-прицельная гиростабилизированная оптико-электронная система (МОЭС), разработанная московской компанией НПК СПП на платформе Argos, поставляемой южноафриканским филиалом концерна Airbus компанией DS Optronics..
can you just link the source you copy pasted that form? its not that hard cuz i know for a fact not only are DS Optronics on the sanction list but also ik that it clearly stated they are all RUSSIAN components and materials…that was enfesiszed.
sorry ı cant..but maybe you have a point, lets say kind of re-branding also possible..ps:dont misunderstand me ı never claim that russians are incapable of making these kind of systems..
ik you are not claiming the Russians are not able to make these systems ofc. my point is i cant find a source to back up your claims.
thats right you cant find it and in the beginning of our conversation ı clearly stated..but ıf we had ”private” way of texting ı would give you my source ..ps:its a russian guy whom ı trust to all his info not a media outlet or article…
m8 come on ffs i tust offichial sourceing and my own eyes over one anonimus source.
Are you saying that Russia can’t make such banal airplane engine for rotary aircraft ?!!!? You confusing Russia with Turkey !
Are you saying that Russian military jets doesn’t have “electro-optics” or that electro-optics from south-african company are better?!! “Kronstadt” is PRIVATE firm and they buy where they want! They buy where they can get cheaper and where US can’t block the sale also! Orlan-10 is small drone produced 2010 by private firm. Not unusual to have “foreign parts” since Russia dosen’t have productions of small electric engines for small drones. Why don’t you try Russia state producers like Sukhoi , MIG or Kalashnikov drones to see if they have “foreign parts” huh?! Turkey is not dominant to Russia in any weapons systems and you never will be ! Whatever you have “the best” Russia has at least as good as, to match….
quote me where did ı say Russia can’t make such engine?no,you can’t…
So why did you mention engines as “foreign parts” and than “laugh”?! What is funny if private firm buys foreign parts? In Russia like everywhere else private firms buy parts where they find them cheaper. But you wanted to create false image that Russia is no capable of creating those parts that you have mentioned (if not why would you LAUGH about it?)
Laugh is for dumbasses to show their hypocrisy and how they are ignorant about the things when they mocked with the turkish drones or incapability of Turkish engineers which are using foreign engines and camera etc.There were some topics like latest heli engine, plenty of biased ignorant account again aware of the subjects or incapable of basic research spewed their bla bla..
Do ı care them?hell no because ı am not even %80 reading of their Bravo Sierra and learned to ignore but when ı catch opportunity like in this case ı am posting to show how funny they are..Sure they are reading my post…
Some must be idiot to really think,assume that Russians who are capable of building rd-180,ram jet engine, can not create this type of simple engines..no ı know whats going on in arms industry and as ı told you before ı am not creating false image and admiring all engineering proccesses..
The funny part is THE COMPANY which is producing Tb2 is also private company and its first priority is to make profit thus they are getting the same engine like the russians are doing right now from the same Austrian company..and needless to say Turks Tai state company are already producing drones engines already…See how things work similarly?
Many of the high-end propeller driven drones are now starting to become more expensive (in unit costs) than a multirole combat jet.
General Atomics MQ-9 Reaper (UCAV) – US $16 million, 1000 kg payload Yak-130 Advanced trainer/ Light fighter – $15 million, 3000 kg payload
You’re comparing a trainer jet (with limited combat capability) with a drone?? Even that with a American one?
Seriously??
Yes seriously… The drone (the American one) is slower, less payload capacity, less agile, more expensive and easier to down. Fine for attacking goat herders with, not in a real war where both sides are contesting the conflict properly.
The Yak-130 is a bit more than your usual trainer. Its a light attack jet as well. Similar to the F-5 but state of the art with more thrust.
Pilot training costs several millions and it takes a lot of time..
Erm, and what do you need to operate a heavy UCAV… A lot of equipment and trained operators. (comparable in costs)
Training of operators is much much cheaper and quicker :)
but u didnt get what i meant – if you loose jet there is high probability you will loose pilot.. If you loose drone, operator just types few words on the keyboard and is ready to operate another drone – only limitation is a material resources. That is why future is moving towards unmanned fight systems..
The real question is how long would the drone infrastructure and the personnel keep safe? Drones are all very well for dealing with low intensity conflicts where air superiority is a given, not a lot else.
I agree, drones are becoming more and more expensive, will probably exceed the costs of a combat jet in the future BUT, drones can become much more stealthy, fly faster (Without keeping G force in mind), perform incredible manouvers and be kamikaze without the loss of a pilot, which costs a lot of money and time to train.
Well if a MQ-9 has a unit cost of $16 million, the drone specs you are suggesting will be the same unit cost price as a F-35 and probably higher than a F-15EX.
Yea, I’m referring to the cost of fifth gen aircrafts. I believe drones will overtake fifth gen prices but be more effective in the near future. It’s much less time consuming and cost effective to train someone to fly a drone than a real pilot. Also, drones are a little bit easier to mass produce.
Drones (remotely piloted vehicle) require massive infrastructure and trained pilot technicians to operate… See below. I’d also point out combat pilots are soldiers, they just operate off of the ground and in the air.
Russians are 3 generations behind turkey for drone tech.
Ahead*
Russians didn’t perform not even 1 combat action with drones.
According to whom? You? Dont make me laugh. Ask your mossadisis buddies about Russian drones. Oh wait you cant, they are lying around in pieces…
Better lying on pieces than on a drawing paper .
Was that even in english…?
of course, they conducted reconnaissance in Syria using pigeons. Happy now?
They did with Kamikaze drones in Syria just recently. I even saw a video of it on twitter, people speculated it might have been Iranian kamikaze drone BUT it did not look Iranian and the Russians said they tested one of their drones in Syria (Kamikaze) against enemy targets so I think the video is of the Russian drone. I’ll try to find it and link it here.
turkey and technology ? They lack of technology in every industry sector , They can produce only bad and cheap hair transplants for 2000 euro and water melons ;) . please stop with trt tv propaganda ,
That’s simply not true. The Turks build a lot of high tech manufacturing machinery and electronics. They are on par with countries like Italy and Spain.
You can say what you want about Erdogan or Turkey’s current FP but it’s a mistake to underestimate them as engineers / builders.
yours is very optimistic man, say somewhere above Syria and below Serbia
Lol delusional dumb nonsense. Turds are 30 generations behind in every possible military tech. The only reason they switched to drones because Russians denied them to use aircafts in Syria. But keep spamming retarded nonsense.
I doubt it would be the first. They just announced it now.
CIA trolls and hasbarats will cry and rage ?. Ukropnazis too…
Like that in the last article i will once again question why Southfront that is in English doesn’t post the English video instead of the Russian one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEHXdogxgwM
Fighting the G Force Limit: Russia’s Unconventional Plans to Make Its New Su-57 Fighter Extremely Manoeuvrable “Aside from the possibility that Su-57 fighters either operated as drones or piloted by artificial intelligence would reduce requirements for pilot training and widen the range of missions it could perform, it would also seriously contribute to manoeuvrability. Without the need for pilots the fighter could pull extreme manoeuvres at over 9g which would leave a human operator unconscious. When paired with advanced thrust vectoring engines and the platform’s already integrated laser defence system and electronic warfare systems would make the aircraft extremely difficult to hit at all ranges.
Another more unconventional approach currently being tested to allow pilots to pull more extreme manoeuvres and exceed the 9g limit is to train pilots to breathe an oxygen-rich liquid instead of air when flying. This liquid breathing technology is currently under development by the Russian Foundation for Advanced Research Projects, and has been funded since 2016. This technology also has applications in allowing submariners to avoid decompression sickness if ascending too quickly from under water, but its potential when applied to fighter pilots is considerable and could allow manned aircraft to rival the flight performance of unmanned ones. ” https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/russia-s-unconventional-plans-to-make-the-su-57-insanely-manoeuvrable
They should use these over central Syria to keep ISIS heads down.
Rotax engine fell under sanction list and will not be exported to Russia.