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Formation of the Caliphate

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Formation of the Caliphate

Written by Jay A. Lykins exclusively for SouthFront. Jay A. Lykins is a retired Foreign Service Officer with the U.S. Department of State.  He has an MBA in Third-World Economic Development and a Ph.D. in Islamic Studies from Oxford University. He lives in Estes Park, Colorado USA.

On 29 June 2014, ISIL announced the establishment of a worldwide caliphate.  Al-Baghdadi was named its caliph, to be known as “Caliph Ibrahim,” and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant was renamed the Islamic State (IS). There has been much debate, especially across the Muslim world, about the legitimacy of these moves.

The declaration of a caliphate has been heavily criticized by Middle Eastern governments, other jihadist groups, and Sunni Muslim theologians and historians.  Qatar-based TV broadcaster and theologian Yusuf al-Qaradawi stated: “[The] declaration issued by the Islamic State is void under shari’a and has dangerous consequences for the Sunnis in Iraq and for the revolt in Syria,” adding that the title of caliph can “only be given by the entire Muslim nation,” not by a single group.

As a caliph, al-Baghdadi is required to hold to each dictate of the sunnah, whose precedence is set and recorded in the sahih hadiths.  According to tradition, if a caliph fails to meet any of these obligations at any period, he is legally required to abdicate his position and the community has to appoint a new caliph, theoretically selected from throughout the caliphdom as being the most religiously and spiritually pious individual among them.   Due to the widespread rejection of his caliphhood, al-Baghdadi’s status as caliph has been compared to that of other caliphs whose caliphship has been questioned.

In an audio-taped message, al-Baghdadi announced that ISIL would march on “Rome” – generally interpreted to mean the West – in its quest to establish an Islamic State from the Middle East across Europe.  He said that he would conquer both Rome and Spain in this endeavor and urged Muslims across the world to immigrate to the new Islamic State.

On 8 July 2014, ISIL launched its online magazine, Dabiq.  The title appears to have been selected for its eschatological connections with the Islamic version of the end times, or Malahim (Book Of Battles).

According to a report in October 2014, after suffering serious injuries, al-Baghdadi fled ISIL’s capital city Raqqa, due to the intense bombing campaign launched by Coalition forces, and sought refuge in the Iraqi city of Mosul, the largest city under ISIL control.

On 5 November 2014, al-Baghdadi sent a message to al-Qaeda Emir Ayman al-Zawahiri requesting him to swear allegiance to him as caliph, in return for a position in the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.  The source of this information was a senior Taliban intelligence officer.  Al-Zawahiri did not reply, and instead reassured the Taliban of his loyalty to Mullah Omar.

On 7 November 2014, there were unconfirmed reports of al-Baghdadi’s death after an airstrike in Mosul while other reports said that he was only wounded.

On 20 January 2015, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported that al-Baghdadi had been wounded in an airstrike in Al-Qa’im, an Iraqi border town held by ISIL, and as a result, withdrew to Syria.

On 8 February 2015, after Jordan had conducted 56 airstrikes, which had reportedly killed 7,000 ISIL militants from 5–7 February, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was said to have fled from Raqqa to Mosul, out of fear for his life.   However, after a Peshmerga source informed the US-led Coalition that al-Baghdadi was in Mosul, Coalition warplanes continuously bombed the locations where ISIL leaders were known to meet for two hours.

On 14 August 2015, it was reported that he allegedly claimed, as his “wife,” American hostage Kayla Mueller and raped her repeatedly.   Mueller was later alleged by an ISIL media account to have been killed in an airstrike by anti-ISIL forces in February 2015.   However, other reports cite that Mueller was murdered by ISIL.

Who is al-Baghdadi and Where did He Come From?

Ibrahim Awwad Ibrahim Ali al-Badri al-Samarai is also known as Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (and several other names).  He is one of the world’s most wanted jihadists, and the leader of the Islamic State’s military operations and its new, self declared, caliphate.

But, who is Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?  He is known to his supporters as Amir al-Mu’minin or Caliph Ibrahim.  He is the leader of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).

Formation of the CaliphateAbū Bakr al-Baghdadi, born Ibrahim Awad Ibrahim al-Badri on 28 July 1971, is the leader of the Sunni Salafi jihadist militant jihadist organisation known as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), which controls territory In several countries.  The group has been designated a terrorist organisation by the United Nations, as well as by the European Union and others.  In June 2014, he was elected by the majlis al-shura (consultative council or Shura council), representing the ahl al-hall wal-aqd of the Islamic State, to be their caliph, which he claims to be.

On 4 October 2011, the U.S. State Department added al-Baghdadi to the Specially Designated Nationals List and announced a reward of up to US$10 million for information or  intelligence leading to his capture or death.  On 16 December 2016, the U.S. increased the reward to $25 million equal to the reward being offered for the leader of al-QaedaAyman al-Zawahiri.  Authorities within the United States have also accused al-Baghdadi of kidnapping, enslaving, and repeatedly raping an American, Kayla Mueller, who ISIL later falsely alleged was killed in a Jordanian airstrike.

Various reports of Baghdadi’s death, injury, or arrest have surfaced over time, but none have been confirmed by independent reliable sources.

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is the nom de guerre of an individual who has had various names and epithets attributed to him, including Abu Du’a, Al-Shaba (the phantom or ghost), and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi al-Husseini al-Hashimi al-Qurashi.  He is known to his supporters as Amir al-Mu’minin, (Caliph), Caliph Abu BakrCaliph al-Baghdadi, or Caliph Ibrahim.  This is besides his previous epithet, which was Sheikh Baghdadi.

Abū, corresponds to the English, “father of.”  Having at sometime taken the name Abu Bakr, al-Baghdadi is thought to have adopted the name of the first caliph, Abu Bakr.  During the times when Abū al-Qāsim Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh ibn ʿAbd al-Muṭṭalib ibn Hāshim (this being the prophet Muḥammad) might have suffered from illnesses, Caliph Abu Bakr was the replacement for leading prayer, according to the Sunni tradition of Islam.  His surname (al-Baghdadi) literally means one from Baghdad and denotes he comes from Baghdad city or Baghdad governorate in Iraq.  The birthname of Amir Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is Ibrahim Awad Ibrahim al-Badri.

Background

Al-Baghdadi is believed to have been born near Samarra, Iraq, in 1971.  He was apparently born as a member of the tribal group known as Al-Bu Badri tribe.

In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, contemporaries of al-Baghdadi describe him in his youth as being shy, unimpressive, a religious scholar, and a man who eschewed violence.  For more than a decade, until 2004, he lived in  room attached to a small local mosque in Tobchi, a spinal injury neighborhood on the western fringes of Baghdad, inhabited by both Shi’a and Sunni Muslims.

Ahmed al-Dabash, the leader of the Islamic Army of Iraq and a contemporary of al-Baghdadi who fought against the allied invasion in 2003, gave a description of al-Baghdadi that matched that of the Tobchi residents:

“I was with Baghdadi at the Islamic University.  We studied the same course, but he wasn’t a friend. He was quiet, and retiring.  He spent time alone . . . I used to know all the leaders (of the insurgency) personally.  Zarqawi (the former leader of al-Qaeda) was closer than a brother to me . . . But I didn’t know Baghdadi.  He was insignificant.  He used to lead prayer in a mosque near my area.  No one really noticed him.”

In 2014, American and Iraqi intelligence analysts said that al-Baghdadi had a doctorate for Islamic studies in Quranic studies, from Nahrain (formerly Saddam) University in Baghdad.  According to a biography that circulated on extremist internet forums in July 2013, he obtained a BA, MA, and Ph.D. in Islamic studies from the Islamic University of Baghdad.  Another report said that he earned a doctorate in education from the spinal injuryUniversity of Baghdad.

“They [the US and Iraqi Governments] know physically who this guy is, but his backstory is just myth,” said Patrick Skinner of the Soufan Group, a security consulting firm.  “He’s managed this secret persona extremely well, and it’s enhanced his group’s prestige” said Patrick Johnston of the RAND Corporation, adding, “Young people are really attracted to that.”  Being mostly unrecognized, even in his own organization, Baghdadi was known to be nicknamed at some time about 2015, as “the invisible sheikh.”

Reuters, quoting tribal sources in Iraq, reports Baghdadi has three wives, two Iraqis and one Syrian.  The Iraqi Interior Ministry has said that al-Baghdadi has two wives, Asma Fawzi Mohammed al-Dulaimi and Israa Rajab Mahal A-Qaisi.  He also has two children, a boy and a girl.

That’s it.  Very little, if anything else, is known of him prior to the invasion of Iraq by coalition forces.  It is reported that he is so unrecognized in his own organization, that Baghdadi is nicknamed “the invisible sheikh.”  This is also part of the prophesy of Islamic eschatology and al-Mahdi, the purported savior of Islam.  Could Baghdadi be this savior, al-Mahdi?

Sectarianism and Theocracy

Through his forename, he is rumored to be styling himself after the first ever Caliph, Abu Bakr, the first caliph, who led the early jihad battles at the formation of Islam.  Some Muslims have already drawn a correlation between those ancient events and modern events under Baghdadi’s reign.  This too, is part of the prophecy that surrounds legend concerning Islam’s savior, the Mahdi.

Islamic Cleric

Some believe that al-Baghdadi was already an Islamic revolutionary during the rule of Saddam Hussein, but other reports contradict this. He may have been a mosque cleric around the time of the US-led invasion in 2003.

After the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, al-Baghdadi helped found the militant group Jamaat Jaysh Ahl al-Sunnah wa-l-Jamaah (JJASJ), in which he served as head of the shari’a committee.  Al-Baghdadi and his group joined the Mujahideen Shura Council (MSC) in 2006, in which he served as a member of the MSC’s sharia committee.  Following the renaming of the MSC as the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) in 2006, al-Baghdadi became the general supervisor of the ISI’s shari’a committee and a member of the group’s senior consultative council.

US Internment

Al-Baghdadi was arrested by US Forces-Iraq on 2 February 2004 near Fallujah and detained at the Abu Ghraib and Camp Bucca detention centers under his name was as a “civilian internee” until December 2004, when he was recommended for release by a Combined Review and Release Board.  In December 2004, he was released as a “low level prisoner.”

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A mugshot photo of al-Baghdadi detained at Camp Bucca, Iraq, 2004

A number of newspapers and cable news channels have instead stated that al-Baghdadi was interned from 2005 to 2009.  These reports originate from an interview with the former commander of Camp Bucca, Colonel Kenneth King and are not substantiated by Department of Defense records.  Al-Baghdadi was imprisoned at Camp Bucca along with other future leaders of ISIL.

Leader of Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL)

The Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), also known as al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), was the Iraqi division of al-Qaeda.  Al-Baghdadi was announced as leader of the ISI on 16 May 2010, following the death of his predecessor Abu Omar al-Baghdadi.

As leader of the ISI, al-Baghdadi was responsible for masterminding large-scale operations such as the 28 August 2011 suicide bombing at the Umm al-Qura Mosque in Baghdad, which killed prominent Sunni lawmaker Khalid al-Fahdawi.  Between March and April 2011, the ISI claimed 23 attacks south of Baghdad, all allegedly carried out under al-Baghdadi’s command.

Following the death of founder and head of al-QaidaOsama bin Laden, on 2 May 2011, in Abbottabad, Pakistan, al-Baghdadi released a statement praising bin Laden and threatening violent retaliation for his death.  On 5 May 2011, al-Baghdadi claimed responsibility for an attack in Hilla, 100 kilometers (62 mi) south of Baghdad, that killed 24 policemen and wounded 72 others.

On 15 August 2011, a wave of ISI suicide attacks beginning in Mosul resulted in 70 deaths.  Shortly thereafter, in retaliation for bin Laden’s death, the ISI pledged on its website to carry out 100 attacks across Iraq featuring various methods of attack, including raids, suicide attacks, roadside bombs and small arms attacks, in all cities and rural areas across the country.

On 22 December 2011, a series of coordinated car bombings and IED (improvised explosive device) attacks struck over a dozen neighborhoods across Baghdad, killing at least 63 people and wounding 180.  The assault came just days after the US completed its troop withdrawal from the country.  On 26 December, the ISI released a statement on jihadist internet forums claiming credit for the operation, stating that the targets of the Baghdad attack were “accurately surveyed and explored” and that the “operations were distributed between targeting security headquarters, military patrols and gatherings of the filthy ones of the al-Dajjal Army (the Army of the Anti-Christ in Arabic),” referring to the warlord Muqtada al-Sadr.

On 2 December 2012, Iraqi officials claimed that they had captured al-Baghdadi in Baghdad, following a two-month tracking operation.  Officials claimed that they had also seized a list containing the names and locations of other al-Qaeda operatives.  However, this claim was rejected by the ISI.  In an interview with Al Jazeera on 7 December 2012, Iraq’s Acting Interior Minister said that the arrested man was not al-Baghdadi, but rather a sectional commander in charge of an area stretching from the northern outskirts of Baghdad to Taji.

Expansion into Syria and break with al-Qaeda

Al-Baghdadi remained leader of the ISI until its formal expansion into Syria in 2013 when, in a statement on 8 April 2013, he announced the formation of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) – alternatively translated from the Arabic as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

When announcing the formation of ISIL, al-Baghdadi stated that the Syrian Civil War jihadist faction, Jabhat al-Nusra – also known as al-Nusra Front – had been an extension of the ISI in Syria and was now to be merged with ISIL.  The leader of Jabhat al-NusraAbu Mohammad al-Julani, disputed this merging of the two groups and appealed to the al-Qaeda emir, who issued a statement that ISIL should be abolished and that al-Baghdadi should confine his group’s activities to Iraq.  Al-Baghdadi, however, dismissed al-Zawahiri’s ruling and took control of a reported 80 percent of Jabhat al-Nusra’s foreign fighters.  In January 2014, ISIL expelled Jabhat al-Nusra from the Syrian city of Raqqa, and in the same month clashes between the two in Syria’s Deir ez-Zor Governorate killed hundreds of fighters and displaced tens of thousands of civilians.  In February 2014, al-Qaeda disavowed any relations with ISIL.

According to several Western sources, al-Baghdadi and ISIL have received private financing from citizens in Saudi Arabia and Qatar and enlisted fighters through recruitment drives in Saudi Arabia in particular.

Listed as a Global Terrorist

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Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi is designated by the U.S. Department of State as a “specially designated global terrorist.”  This designation was passed after the events of 11 September 2001, by George W. Bush as Executive Order 13224.  The State Department lists Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, as a senior leader of the terrorist organization Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), is involved in: numerous attacks in Iraq since 2011, and as leader of ISIL, “is responsible for the deaths of thousands of civilians in the Middle East, including the brutal murder of numerous civilian hostages from Japan, the United Kingdom, and the United States.”

Suspected Location

Al-Baghdadi is the top target in the war against ISIL.  U.S. Intelligence believes he is based in Raqqa and that he keeps a low profile, hiding among the civilian population.  ISIL is believed to be headquartered in a series of buildings in Raqqa, but the proximity of civilians makes spinal injury the headquarters off limits under U.S. rules of engagement.  Photos of a possible public appearance in a Fallujah mosque surfaced in February 2016.

Haider al-Abadi was reported (7 February 2017) to have stated he knew of the location of al-Baghdadi.  Colonel John Dorrian, of the Combined Joint Task Force, stated he was aware of al-Baghdadi having chosen to sleep in a suicide vest, as a reaction to the necessities of his current situation, should it be that he might find himself facing capture.

Reports of Death, Bodily Harm, and Arrest

According to media reports, al-Baghdadi was wounded on 18 March 2015 during a coalition airstrike on the al-Baaj District, in the Nineveh Governorate, near the Syrian border.  His wounds were apparently so serious that the top ISIL leaders had a meeting to discuss who would replace him if he died.  According to reports, by 22 April al-Baghdadi had not yet recovered enough from his injuries to resume daily control of ISIL.  The U.S. Department of Defense said that al-Baghdadi had not been the target of the airstrikes, and “we have no reason to believe it was Baghdadi.”  On 22 April 2015, Iraqi government sources reported that Abu Ala al-Afri, the self-proclaimed caliph’s deputy and a former Iraqi physics teacher, had been installed as the stand-in leader while Baghdadi recuperated from his injuries.

In April 2015, The Guardian reported that al-Baghdadi was recovering from the severe injuries which he had received during the airstrike on 18 March 2015, in a part of Mosul.  It was also reported that a spinal injury which had left him paralyzed meant that he might never be able to fully resume direct command of ISIL.  By 13 May, ISIL fighters had warned they would retaliate for al-Baghdadi’s injury, which the Iraqi Defense Ministry believed would be carried out through attacks in Europe.  On 20 July 2015, The New York Times wrote that rumors that al-Baghdadi had been killed or injured earlier in the year had been “dispelled.”

On 11 October 2015, the Iraqi air force claimed to have bombed al-Baghdadi’s convoy in the western Anbar province close to the Syrian border while he was heading to Kerabla to attend an ISIL meeting, the location of which was also said to be bombed.  His fate was not immediately confirmed.  There were some subsequent speculation that he may not have been present in the convoy at all.

On 9 June 2016, Iraqi State TV claimed that al-Baghdadi had been wounded in a U.S. airstrike in Northern Iraq.  Coalition spokesmen said they could not confirm the reports.

On 14 June 2016, several Middle Eastern media outlets claimed that al-Baghdadi had been killed in a U.S. airstrike in Raqqa on 12 June.  Coalition spokesmen said they could not confirm the reports.  The Independent however, later stated that these reports of Baghdadi’s death were based on a digitally altered image claiming to be a media statement from ISIL.

On 3 October 2016, various media outlets claimed that al-Baghdadi and three senior ISIL leaders were poisoned by an assassin but still alive.

On 18 April 2017, some media reported that al-Baghdadi was arrested in Syria.  Citing the European Department for Security and Information (DESI), several media outlets reported that al-Baghdadi was apprehended by Syrian and Russian joint forces.  However, the Russian Foreign Ministry said they did not have knowledge of the news and were not aware of his arrest.

On 11 June 2017, Syrian state TV has claimed al-Baghdadi has been killed in the artillery strike that was backed by the US.

On 16 June 2017, Russian media reported that al-Baghdadi might have been killed in a Russian air strike near Raqqa, Syria on 28 May along with 30 mid-level ISIL leaders and 300 other fighters.  The Russian claims to have killed 330 iSIL fighters including Baghdadi did not match reports from Raqqa that found 17 or 18 civilian deaths and possibly ten ISIL fighter deaths from an airstrike against buses south of Raqqa on May 28.  The United States cast doubt on the claim, noting a lack of independent evidence.

On 23 June 2017, Russian politician Viktor Ozerov stated that al-Baghdadi’s death was almost “100 percent certain.”  Iran later claimed to confirm Russia’s claim that al-Baghdadi was killed in an airstrike.

On 29 June 2017, the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA), Iranian government’s official media, published an article quoting a representative for Iranian leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei to the Quds Force, stating that al-Baghdadi was “definitely dead.”  IRNA removed this quotation in an updated version of the article.

On 11 July 2017, Iraqi news agency Al Sumaria stated on its website that ISIL had circulated a brief statement that Baghdadi was dead.  The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights claimed it had “confirmed information” of his death.  The U.S. Department of Defense stated it was trying to confirm the new reports of his death.  The Kurdish -terrorism official Lahur Talabany told Reuters he was “99 percent” sure Baghdadi was alive and hiding in Raqqa.

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EmilyEnso

There are all sorts of alternative biographies of course.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/04/french-report-isil-leader-mossad/ http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=126730 Then the John McCain connection. https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pictures+john+McCain+and+ISIS&sa=X&biw=1093&bih=482&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ved=0ahUKEwjltYuB-87JAhUHsxQKHY7pB3gQ7AkIKQ

Jay Lykins

Veterans Today is an obvious photoshop. The Truth(?) Seeker is just retelling VT’s story. Wikispooks is citing fake news. Google is well known to be biased.

A John McCain connection is nothing but pure fabrication.

Is this the best documentation you have? You need to learn where to find solid new documentation, and not sites that just regurgitate fake news.

EmilyEnso

If you consider multiple pictures of John McCain with islamic terrorists – pure fabrication then you are beyond rational thought, I am afraid. So bigoted you cannot believe the evidence of your own eyes. No hope of convincing you of anything. A very sad and pathetic case.

Shahna

Sounds more like the “History of the Caliph” than the “Formation of the Caliphate” to me.

Are we all supposed to pretend ISIS/ISIL/IS/Daesh was really “just one man” (who may now be dead) and US chaos in Iraq, its subsequent disenfranchisement of ex-military/police and the rising tide of extreme aversion to American/European interference, endless war and death in the ME had buggerall to do with anything ISIS?

I expect better of SF ….. but not of some Yankee govt mouthpiece – the latter have their own very unique boxed view of the world and what they do.

Jay Lykins

I don’t understand how you came to these conclusions. It’s a fact based, objective look at the facts.

Shahna

Look again. It’s the story of a few years of one man’s life.

Jay Lykins

Yes, I know. I stated that this was the case. There is no other history that I’ve found on Baghdadi. Are you aware of more information? If you look in to Islamic eschatology, a study of what Islam believes will happen in the end times, Baghdadi’s available history seems to lend itself to this belief. It’s almost as if it were orchestrated. Are you familiar with the Mahdi?

Shahna

You titled your article “Formation of the Caliphate.” This is no more the formation of the caliphate than a description of the last 8 years of Obama’s life would be the “Formation of the Republic.”

You wrote a very interesting, in depth and informative article about one man. (One man who was also captured by the Americans and released after nearly a year. One man who headed an organisation that conveniently pops up in places where America wants to go bombing – like the Philippines Africa and Afghanistan.)

Your TITLE stated we would get an exposé on how the caliphate of Iraq and Syria came into being…. instead you detailed the journey of a would-be Mahdi who was more likely than not a CIA stooge.

PS. I did not read your blurb until after I’d read the article to see WHO would want to tell me the formation of ISIL was all down to one zealot – and why. And what did I get? “A retired Foreign Service Officer with the U.S. Department of State.” Wow.

Are you, “a retired Foreign Service Officer with the U.S. Department of State” telling me that ISIL arose because one man had a vision? Well then – you have a lot of marines. —————-

Had you called this “Rise of the Caliph” I would still have read it – and would have felt informed instead of just irritated by another Yank trying to tell me America’s wars really had nothing to do with the rise of ISIS. There was no caliphate. There was just propaganda.

Shahna

“The State Department lists Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, as a senior leader of the terrorist organization Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), is involved in: numerous attacks in Iraq since 2011, and as leader of ISIL, “is responsible for the deaths of thousands of civilians in the Middle East, including the brutal murder of numerous civilian hostages from Japan, the United Kingdom, and the United States.”” ———————- By the State Department’s own logic, the Presidents of the United States are responsible for the deaths of 1.4 million Iraqi/ME civilians since 1990, including the brutal murder by drone bomb of thousands of civilians in Iraq and 6 more sovereign countries.

America/ns should stop pointing fingers! There is no evil deed in this world they do not do – and better than any other. Not war, not death, not destruction, not chaos, not state kidnap, not torture, and not injustice. They are truly the scourge of this Earth.

gustavo

I do not know, but this article looks like a misleading article of the real creators (USA-NATO-Israel) of terrorists in Syria to destroy this country, and as Shanna says, ¿ is this history of Caliph ?

Jay Lykins

What do you find misleading, and why would you associate it with ‘real creators?” You’ve lost me.

Serious

Stop reporting fake news. Al Baghdadi is a CIA spy.

Jay Lykins

What fake news? What do you disagree with? Everyone who responded seems to have a skewed view of things. It’s an objective article, reporting on the facts, and making no conclusions.

Serious

Jay A. Lykins is a retired Foreign Service Officer with the U.S. Department of State.

Everything is said. Never trust an american especially if he had worked for the US gov. Fake news.

Jay Lykins

The fact that I worked for the State Department has nothing to do with this article. I started working for State in 2003, then retired and left State five years ago, in 2012. I received my Ph.D. In Islamic Studies in 1988, over ten years before I worked in a government. What if the article had said I worked for General Electric or AT&T or that I had been self-employed for,most of,my life? Would any of that have made any difference? Well, it’s all true. I did all of those things. How would that have impacted the story or your views? When at State, I worked. Lastly in procurement, not in any other capacity. You need to be more objective when you read something instead of making erroneous assumptions.

Shahna

Mr Lykins. I hear you and you made a fair point – or at what would be a fair point if you weren’t an (ex) US State Dept official. US State Dept officials stand before the world and LIE. Outright lies. In fact, they don’t speak to the world except to lie. If you think I’m exaggerating then please direct me to the State Dept official speaking officially and telling the truth since the turn of this century – once – just once – because I honestly cannot recall such an incidence.

I don’t mean your Ron Pauls or your Jesse Venturas or even Hilary Clinton speaking to some interviewers – I mean your Barack Obamas, your Donald Trumps, your Colin Powers, John Kerrys, Rex Tillersons, your Samantha Powers and Nikki Haleys: I mean the people who when they speak – are speaking for official position of the country on the international stage.

And I don’t mean domestic; I mean foreign policy because we’re not coming to bomb freedom and democracy into you.

We are just people: When a world state official tells us something we have a “starting position.” That starting position is “He/she’s telling the truth – what is he saying, not-saying.” America has reversed that position: “He/she is lying – what is he saying, not-saying.”

America did that – we didn’t just … wake up one morning and decide to be anti-American. •Afghanistan refuses to hand over Bin Laden – bomb the people 16 yrs no end in sight. •Saddam has WMD, nuke London in 45mins + NY in 60 – bomb the people 11 years. •”We’re keeping Americans safe” – drone bomb civilians in 7 countries.

Currently it’s “North Korea threatens “America and Our Allies” let’s BOMB THEM!” — Yah Sure! Some dirt poor shitty little asshole country REALLY threatens the richest nation with the Mightiest Military Machine This World Has Ever Seen! Phucking A absolutely terry-fying!

Serious is right – how do we trust a people of whom 99% adamantly believe they alone won WW2 and but for them all the world would living under the Nazi jackboot? How do we trust an American state official when American state officials always lie? It’s not Serious who needs to be more objective – it’s you. You need to take the excruciating record of US state officials into account. You are tarnished by the brush of your nation and employer – they did this to you – not Serious, not us.

So yes, it would make a difference if you were just a General Electric or AT&T employee or a self-employed person – it affects your credibility. Serious doesn’t make the distinction that you are just informing here and not speaking officially but after 16 years of US State Officials pumping lies down our throats nonstop – why should he?

We didn’t make your officials lie to us. But you (the people) didn’t make them tell the truth. Now Americans are all liars and state officials the worst of them. And the world continues to turn.

Sorry, but you seem to be asking so I thought I’d tell you. Americans no longer get the assumption they are telling the truth – and certainly not anyone associated with the State Dept in any way. I don’t know what you can do about it – it takes a moment to lie but it takes a generation to remove the lie … if ever. Because we aren’t talking white lies – we’re talking lies that killed a million people, displaced millions more and destroyed whole nations. Lies don’t get more serious than that.

EmilyEnso

A must read. How the weapons get there. ZH today http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-28/journalist-interrogated-fired-story-linking-cia-and-syria-weapons-flights

Bob

CIA’s standard operating procedure on big black ops has long been to have some low level asset as the fall guy – an expendable public face for the operation.

Jay Lykins

Where do these assumptions? I have presented facts. What is your source for comments like this

Bob

Good lord, you have trolled every comment on this page – toughen up Princess…

Carol Davidek-Waller

A fairy story about another US (directly and indirectly) propped up leader/asset. Citing SOHR is your first clue. It’s a guy with a cell phone in suburban London who hasn’t been to Syrian in nearly a decade. I’d read elsewhere that Baghdadi is a product of Abu Graib. Anyone else? The calibrate, a political ploy to Balkanize the ME.

Jay Lykins

Where do you get your information? Sight some evidence that supports your statements. Fairy story? What’s not true?

Carol Davidek-Waller

A State Department fairy story to explain away another failed, reprehensible (drug fueled?) plot to Balkanize and dominate the ME. SOHR: a guy in suburban London with a cell phone who hasn’t visited Syria in nearly a decade and couldn’t even if he wanted to. Read the reference below ZH.

Jay Lykins

Why do you think it’s “fairy story?” No, i don’t live in London with a cell phone, and I have been to,Syria. I don’t understand how or why you and other folks who responded are so negative. I thought the article was an objective piece, simply reporting the facts. There is no agenda here.

Jay Lykins

What reference? Who, what, or where is ZH? Not a State Department fairy story. It has nothing to do with DoS. You make some sweeping statements yet display zero kmowledge on the subject. You want to debate? Study up on the subject, then we will talk facts.

Tom Tom

He’s a nobody CIA picked out to obfuscate the fact that they paid Saddam’s former Ba’athist military leadership to secretly “lead” (in some ways, but mostly CIA) the CIA creation of ISIS. Once western Iraq/eastern Syria, with Raqqa as its capital (oil money) was settled, the Sunni’s could re-establish a Saddam like country forming a bulwark for Israel/Saudis against Iran.

Too bad for CIA it won’t work out that way.

Jay Lykins

How did you come to that conclusion? You seem to be inserting your own fake news with connections that don’t exist. Help me out here, where do your assumptions come from?

RichardD

It’s all Jew pedophile rape cult theater. Designed for mass murder, perpetual war and destitution for Israel’s neighbors at the expense of the American people and humanity. Jews are evil. Their cult should be outlawed.

Jay Lykins

Talk talk about trash, you have only displayed your racism and ignorance.

RichardD

Then disprove it. You can’t so you probably won’t even try.

Jay Lykins

You truly are a racist, aren’t you. Surely you don’t really believe all of that. But, back to the point . . . what does any of this have to do with the article?

Disprove it? First, you need to show where you get your information. In other words, it’s up to you to prove your comments, not up to me to disprove them.

You sound like one of those ‘white supremist’ nuts. Tell me you’re more educated than that.

RichardD

Are you reading the same comment that I am:

Really? The big problem is evil Jews. The Syria war and many other wars wouldn’t have happened without Israeli and NATO ziocon causality by the Jews and their collaborators.

The way to deal with our planet’s Jew infestation is to outlaw their evil pedophile baby raping cult and to implement the 100 plus UN and other resolutions that Israel is in chronic and flagrant violation of with UNSC Chapter 7 enforcement resolutions on an as needed basis.

The blood sucking Jew perverts are carrying out mass statutory rape around the world. Anyone else would be imprisoned on felony sexual assault, endangering the welfare of a child, etc. charges. In New York City alone:

“According to the Health Department, 24 cases of herpes have been linked to circumcision since 2000. Two of the infants died and two others suffered brain damage.” http://nypost.com/2017/03/08/new-case-of-neonatal-herpes-caused-by-jewish-circumcision/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrsENvsJSDE

Jay Lykins

I’m commenting on the article I wrote, on Formation of the Caliphate and al-Baghdadi. If you’re commenting on another article, you’ve posted to the wrong area. If you’re commenting on my article, you need to read it again. It has nothing to do with your comments.

As for your racists comments about the Jewish people, well, you need to get some help. Why are you so anti-Semite, anyway?

RichardD

It has everything to do with your article. Are you a Jew pedophile rape cult member?

Anti-semite is raping Jew cult children. The evidence is prima facia.

Dod Grile

Just goes to show how the implied honest aims of any religion (which should be Peace on Earth and Goodwill to ones fellow humans) can be perverted by any power hungry greedy grasping boob or collection of boobs… especially if they work for the CIA.

Jay Lykins

Are you implying that I work for,the CIA? If so, where in the world did,that come from?

Mateen Zaman

Al Baghdadi is another CIA operator like OBL and Trump

Jay Lykins

And you can cite evidence of this? No? Just another ignorant stooge.

Mateen Zaman

you too

Jay Lykins

Rather than respond to each of you again, I have decided to make one last summation, which pretty much covers each of you. I was asked by Southfront to submit an article, for which they suggested the title. However, I had no idea that it would be read(?) by such an uneducated (education doesn’t just come from the classroom) group. I have never been addressed by such racist and bigoted individuals as each of you seem to be. Your minds were obviously made up before even reading the article. It makes me wonder if you actually read it. If you want to believe that I am a State Department front or lackey, even after I’ve told you I’m not, then so be it. I have stated the truth; it takes a wise individual to know when truth is presented. As long as you go through life with your minds made up, with bigoted hearts, and making racists, brain-dead comments, you will never learn anything new, much less understand the truth. I will make no more claims, make no judgment on the class of individuals who have responded, and make no more responses to your comments. Have a great day wallowing in your In your own hate.

RichardD

Actually Mr. know it all. When presented with prima facia evidence that would stand up in any court of law. You lied and denied. Making yourself look like a complete fool and Jew world order lackey. So until you resolve your credibility deficit and deal in the real world of facts, truth and judicial quality evidence. What you write is of questionable value.

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