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SEPTEMBER 2024

Game Changer: What’s Behind US-Turkish Conflict Over S-400 Deal

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According to the Turkish National Defense Ministry, receipt of the first batch of Russian S-400 missile defense systems was  completed on July 25th. Besides making headlines all around the world and causing a harsh response from the US, the delivery demonstrated Turkey’s readiness to provide independent defense and foreign policies in its own interests despite all the difficulties that it may face on this path.

The Russian S-400 missile defense system, according to Stratfor, is the “best all-around.” It is approximately 30 years in the making, as development began in the late 1980s, and it was officially announced in 1993.

The first successful tests of the system were conducted in 1999 at Kapustin Yar in Astrakhan and the S-400 was scheduled for deployment by the Russian army in 2001. By 2003, the system was yet to be deployed to Russia. Following various setbacks it was finally cleared for service in 2007.

  • The S-400 Triumph package consists of a 30K6E battle management system, six 98ZH6E SAM systems, 48N6E3 and (or) 48N6E2 surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) ammunition load and 30TsE maintenance facilities. Use of the 48N6E SAM is possible.
  • An S-400 Transporter Erector Launcher has four missile containers. Each container can house one 48N6E or four 9M96 surface-to-air missiles.
  • The S-400 can be used with a semi-mobile package of towed trailer-mounted radars and missiles. Typically, it is towed by the Russian 6×6 truck BAZ-6402-015.
  • It takes 5-10 minutes to set system assets from traveling position and about 3 more minutes to set it to ready from the deployed position.

The S-400 has a target detection range of approximately 600 km, while being able to simultaneously track around 300 targets. The maximum speed of the target may be up to 4,800 m/s, approximately Mach 14.

It can simultaneously engage approximately 36 targets, or 72 guided missiles. It can engage an aerodynamic target at a range of between 3 and 250 kilometers, while a ballistic target can be engaged at 60 kilometers.

  • The Russian armed forces have several S-400, located at various positions, as well as plans to equip the Kirov-class battlecruiser Admiral Nakhimov with the 48N6DMK anti-aircraft missile derived from the land-based S-400. By 2020 Russia plans to have 28 S-400 regiments, each comprising of two or three battalions. In turn, each battalion consists of at least eight launchers with 32 missiles and a mobile command post.
  • Two S-400 systems are deployed in Syria for use in protection of Russian personnel.
  • Since 2016, Belarus has two S-400 missile systems, both provided by Russia free of charge, as per a 2011 agreement.
  • China received its first S-400 regiment in May 2018 and carried out successful tests in August 2018. There was an issue  where Russia had to send dozens of replacement missiles in early 2019 since a Russian cargo ship, reportedly carrying an export variant of the S-400’s most advanced interceptor, the 40N6E, was forced to return home as a result of damages sustained during a storm in the English Channel.  On July 25th, 2019, Russia began the delivery of China’s second S-400 missile defense system regiment;.
  • In October 2017, Saudi Arabia announced that it had finalized an agreement for the delivery of the S-400 missile defense system. Unsurprisingly, the US’ key ally in the Middle East wasn’t subject to sanctions and constant warnings over purchasing the S-400. In February 2019, the Kingdom and Russia held consultations on the S-400.
  • The S-400 missile defense system is expected to enter into service in India in October 2020. The United States threatened India with sanctions over India’s decision to buy the S-400 missile defense system from Russia. So far, it’s proving as effective as the threats towards Turkey.
  • As of January 2018, Qatar has allegedly been in advanced talks for the purchase of S-400, but no additional information has been provided since.
  • There are various rumors and confirmations by officials from Pakistan, Iraq, Iran and Egypt for interest towards the S-400.

The US strongly opposes the purchase of S-400 by its allies, but mainly by Turkey, since Turkey was a key partner in the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program. According to US officials, there were constant fears that it could be used to steal the fighter jet’s secrets. Turkey has, for over a year now, maintained that the deal was done and there was nothing the US could do to dissuade it from purchasing despite threats of sanctions and other aggressive actions.

In a last ditch and quite absurd effort US Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, allegedly on behalf of US President Donald Trump, suggested that the Turkish side may choose to “simply not turn on” their $2 billion system to avoid difficulties in the Turkish-US relations. This absurd proposal was later repeated by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

US media claim that negotiations on an offer by the US for Turkey to purchase a Raytheon Patriot missile system are still on-going despite the S-400 delivery. How that makes sense is unclear, but the new US Defense Secretary Mark Esper was, after all, a Raytheon lobbyist. Regardless, the cost of the proposed Patriot is $3.5 billion, compared to the $2 billion Russian system.

Another factor why the US military political leadership opposes deliveries of Russian state-of-the-art air defense missile systems to other states is that such deals contribute to the Russian development programmes in this field. Right now, the Russian military is developing and testing interceptors of the A-235 Nudol anti-ballistic missile system and anti-satellite weapon. The system is set to replace the current one defending Moscow and the surrounding region from nuclear attacks, the A-135 Amur.

According to reports, the Nudol will operate in three stages:

  • Long-range, based on the 51T6 interceptor and capable of destroying targets at distances up to 1500 km and altitudes up to 800 km
  • Medium-range, an update of the 58R6 interceptor, designed to hit targets at distances up to 1000 km, at altitudes up to 120 km
  • Short-range (the 53T6M or 45T6 interceptor (based on the 53T6)), with an operating range of 350 km and a flight ceiling of 40-50 km

The main contractor for the project is Almaz-Antey, who created the S-300, S-400 and is working on the S-500. According to military experts, the future of the missile defense systems A-235 and S-500 will form the basis for the comprehensive, integrated aerospace defense system of Russia, which will include a variety of modern ground-based detection tools.

The additional experience and funds obtained by Almaz-Antey and Russian military experts during implementation of S-300 and S-400 deals around the world and their usage in the conflict zones such Syria will allow Russia to make its aerospace defense systems even more sophisticated and effective.

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Tommy Jensen

We from Israel thank Russia for its defense of Israel security. Turkey will be able to shoot down 36 Syrian airfighters in one shot and all the Bukh missiles from 1971 fired that Assad have……….LOL. The Yinon Plan is in its final phase and the sheeple is still hoping…………LOL.

Hasbara Hunter

Oh…I thought the Yinon-Plan was Dead as Fuck….can you send me that link please? Sounds like very interesting news….thanks in advance

Icarus Tanović

Okay, now you revealed your self. Thank you.

verner

putin is patiently waiting in the wings for the time when Erdogan together with Iran and a few more move in to obliterate the squatters from the land they have no right to. Russia will not intercede but will make certain that the more than ever dysfunctional states of A(rschlöcher) won’t either, leaving it to the actual middle east countries to settle a score, and believe you me, there is a score to be settled and it will result in the squatters skedaddling to the dysfunctional states on their green cards. and if the squatters would even thnk of using nukes, the squatters and their fifth columns will be holocausted to oblivion.

Rob

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lrUMILZx1kU

This is Russian Concord jet Tu-160 which is all the time ready for challenge.

Justin

i agree but remember Israel already destroyed Russia when they installed the Communist Soviets! The bolsheviks were Jews, Stalin was in the bolshevik gang and he was a Jew! The Jew’s created the Gulags and sent all of Russia’s best and smartest people to the Gulag! Putin and the Russian Military intel took back the country from the Jews who were profiting from it such as Boris Berezovsky! Putin and Russian Military intel saved Russia! Now Trump and US military intel are saving the USA (General Flynn and Admiral Rogers both former heads of the DIA and NSA). Epstein has been discovered to be a Mossad agent! This is obvious and well known now which is why he was released from pedo charges over a decade a go! Now he is being denied bail! Jews use honey traps to control politicians which was a common JEWISH Soviet program used against the USA (very effective). You heard me right, its proven Epstein works for Mossad! This is not a rumour or allegation but a stone cold fact! His accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell is the Daughter of Robert Maxwell who was awarded and regarded as the greatest Mossad agent ever! Anyway, my point is this, the Jews lost the Soviet union, Russia is back! Now they are losing the USA so the USA is back! USA and Russia will become official allies after 2020 US election! Those are Trump’s words, not mine! Yes Trump said this himself! Investment in Russia will be big! The future will be the USA and Russia leading the world and policing the world whilst China will be drained of the wealth it stole from Western Industries (because Globalist Jews needed a new HQ because the Soviet Union Jewish project failed and so has the US project! China much easier to control and enrich)

Mark my words! I am correct on this, u just wont get this news from this site but u will soon!

cettel

“Justin”s allegation ” that “Stalin … was a Jew” is ludicrous. Stalin was born to a devoutly Russian Orthodox family, went to the Church’s school, and then to its seminary, studying to become a priest. See, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_of_Joseph_Stalin His entire environment was anti-Semitic (like you just displayed yourself as being. I am no Jew, nor Christian nor afflicted with any other religion, but bigots of any type are filth).

Justin

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ccbfefcbd0390f01ce981b853f525c3313424e3a4880107cb7250e877441ebaa.png

Jewish Bolshevism Judeo–Bolshevism they held primary power among the Bolsheviks who led the revolution! Stalin was born a Georgian Jew! You are reading from altered history! Bolsheviks were a jewish funded (Rothschild) gang that was set to take out the Russian Tsar and family because of the Tzars resistance to Central banks! Communism is a Jewish invention in order to control and turn nations into a police state and a military state! If you notice they tried to turn the USA into a socialist society and take away free speech and guns! They failed but they did manage to transfer Western Industries to China and put the USA into endless costly wars! How do they do this? Via honey traps! Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein all work for Mossad (Fact) and control politicians, CEO’s, bankers etc thus controlling foreign policy decisions!

These “revolutions” which occurred both in Russia and China killed tens of millions and created slave prisons! China is doing this right now as we speak!

Check your history and stop supporting your beloved Stalin! You older Russians are brainwashed!

Tim Hadfield

America just wants every country to buy USA made stuff (or else).

goingbrokes

Turkey is prepared to stand for its own national interest (something the EU and US are incapable of doing), and I can respect that.

Ian Perkins

This article doesn’t seem to mention a major reason for Turkey and other countries opting for the S400: US equivalents like the Patriot system won’t target US planes and missiles, while the S400 targets what it’s told to. This is also a major reason why the US dislikes it. (Please correct me if I’m wrong!)

cettel

How do you know that? Provide your source for that allegation.

Ian Perkins

I’ve just spent 40-odd minutes hunting for a source, and can’t find one. It appears that the Patriot does have an “Identification, Friend or Foe” (IFF) system that will – or should – “identify aircraft, vehicles or forces as friendly and to determine their bearing and range from the interrogator,” and the plan was to have this system on all NATO planes (and missiles?). https://web.archive.org/web/20140408224218/http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/archive/2002/October/Pages/Nations_Seek4006.aspx https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-apr-21-war-patriot21-story.html I’ve read two or three articles in the past few years mentioning that the Patriot will refuse to attack targets with working and appropriate IFF transponders, while the S400 targets what it’s pointed at, but I can’t remember where or what these articles were. I’m suspecting I’ve been the victim of disinformation or sloppy journalism, which would explain Southfront not mentioning it. If you know of anything that would clear this up one way or another (with sources if possible), please reply! [As for the final part of my comment, that this is also a major reason why the US dislikes the S400 so much, that’s basically just my own take on it, which is wrong if the rest is.] Thanks!

Douglas Houck

The Patriot system has a heavy reliance on satellites which the US has never given anyone free access to, including the Israelis. It’s why the US has stationed US soldiers inside Israel. So yes, you are correct, but Turkey did not buy the S400 to defend against the US but Israeli planes and especially missiles (Those nuclear warheads are on old and easily shot down missiles). This is why the story of Isreal pressuring the US to nick the Turkish delivery of F-35 in bid to preserve it’s military qualitative edge has been making the rounds. See: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-reportedly-lobbied-washington-to-drop-turkey-from-f-35-program/

Ian Perkins

I would guess Israel is the more immediate reason, but if I were Erdogan I’d be happier knowing I could deal with the US should they decide to turn on Turkey.

Anonymous

The S400 never has been the reason or the root cause. The S400 is only the consequence.

The origin of the stand off with the US is the neocon new ME project map. The plan has been and still is the partition of Syria, Iraq and Turkey along sectarian lines.

See the Oded Yinon entry.

Or when the Turkish officers left the Nato meeting whereas Turkey was shown cut in two parts with the new Kurdistan.

Or see the tension in Syria or Iraq where the US support Kurdish Militia. Whereas Turkey and Iran do not allow the Kurdish national project.

The nail in the coffin was the failed US and CIA masterminded so called Gullen “coups” against Erdogan.

Or the End of the EU adhesion dream.

Turkey is firmly standing out of Nato just because it has never been respected by its so called western allies: call it AngloZionist hubris.

Truly ridiculous for southfront to mix cause and consequence. Southfront truly no better than MSM. Reuters and AFP with only shallow titles and news…. What a terrible shame… Expected more.

British Free Corps

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Hassadnah Abraham

why U.S force Erdogan to buy Patriot? Because it was design NOT TO HIT US plane and missiles. S 400 will be able to shoot down US jet/missiles like a sitting duck.

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