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On December 4th, Germany expelled two employees of the Russian embassy after German prosecutors claimed there was sufficient evidence to prove that the murder of al-Qaeda-linked terrorist Zelimkhan Khangoshvili was carried under orders by either Russia or Chechnya.
Khangoshvili is a member of the Emirate of the Caucasus terrorist organization. It has operated in Russia and is now active in Syria. It’s well known for its links with al-Qaeda.
Berlin’s attorney general took over the investigation and said that evidence points to Russian state involvement.
Prosecutors said there is “sufficient evidence” to indicate that the man’s murder was carried out on the behalf of the Russian state or by Chechnya.
The German foreign ministry announced that two employees at Russia’s embassy in Berlin had been designated personae non grate and were expelled.
The names and positions of the diplomats were not given, although the ministry said it took the move after Russian authorities failed to “cooperate sufficiently” in the murder investigation.
The statement by the German Foreign Ministry is the following, translated from German:
“The Federal Foreign Office today declared two employees of the Russian Embassy in Berlin to be personae non gratae in accordance with Article 9 of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations of 18 April 1961 (WÜD).
With this step the Federal Government reacts to the fact that the Russian authorities, despite repeated high-ranking and emphatic requests, did not sufficiently participate in the investigation of the murder of Tornike K. [the Georgian citizen, Zelimkhan Khangoshvili] in the Berlin Tiergarten on 23.08.2019.
This expectation was last expressed by Foreign Minister Michaelis to Ambassador Nechayev on 20.11.2019 in an interview at the Foreign Office. Irrespective of this, the Russian side diligently ignored the Federal Government’s call to participate in the investigation as in previous months.
From the point of view of the Federal Government, serious and prompt cooperation by the Russian authorities remains imperative, given that today the Federal Public Prosecutor General has taken over the investigation in this case on the grounds that there are sufficient real indications that the killing is either on commission is done by state agencies of the Russian Federation or such of the Autonomous Chechen Republic as part of the Russian Federation.
The Federal Government reserves the right to take further steps in this matter in the light of the investigation.”
The Russian Foreign Ministry, in turn, said that Moscow considers the decisions of Berlin to be politicized, so it will be forced to respond accordingly. It called the move to expel the diplomats an “unfriendly, ungrounded step.”
Earlier media reported that the government of German Chancellor Angela Merkel may impose diplomatic or other sanctions against Moscow if there is evidence that it played a part in the murder of the Georgian citizen.
In late August, 40-year-old Zelimkhan Khangoshvili was shot in an “execution-style” killing at Berlin’s Kleiner Tiergarten park. The suspect in the case, a 49-year-old Russian national, carried out the drive-by shooting on a bicycle in broad daylight — shooting the victim in the head and chest, prosecutors said.
Zelimkhan Khangoshvili
Zelimkhan Khangoshvili was an asylum-seeker of Chechen descent from Georgia who fought against the Russians as a member of the terrorist group during the Second Chechen War from 1999 – 2009. He was also known by a second identity “Tornike K.” which was the one used by German prosecutors. After the war, he reportedly worked in both Ukraine and Georgia against Russian interests.
German prosecutors said he was “classified as a terrorist by Russian authorities and persecuted as such.”
Khangoshvili, fought against Russia on the side of illegal armed groups led by Shamil Basaev, Abu al-Valid and Aslan Maskhadov.
During the armed conflict in South Ossetia he was an officer in the Georgian army. He was put on a wanted list on suspicion of terrorism in Russia, since he supported the terrorist organization “Emirate of the Caucasus”.
In 2005, he left Georgia to get to Germany, through Ukraine. On August 23th, 2019, he was killed in the center of Berlin by shots in the chest and head.
He applied for asylum in Germany in 2016 following multiple attempts on his life in Georgia. His asylum application, however, was denied and he was slated for deportation. Khangoshvili’s ex-wife, Manana Tsatieva, previously told DW: “We were warned that this would happen eventually.”
The Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said that Russia was not involved in the death of Khangoshvili.
The United States accused the Russian special services of his murder. German media also believe that Russia is to blame for the murder, even calling it the “second Skripal case.”
On August 30th, German outlet der Spiegel speculated that the suspect could be an agent of the Russian special services. The authors of the article made such a conclusion on the basis that the name of the suspect presented in the documents for obtaining a visa, according to their version, is not available in the Russian data banks, and his passport number indicates the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which “had already issued documents to the GRU military intelligence officers.”
Steffen Seibert, spokesman for the German government, said the authorities “took note of media the reports.”
As always, the only reasonable explanation of the death of a member of the al-Qaeda-linked terrorist group in the EU that mainstream media outlets and Western diplomats can see is “GRU agents”.
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How dare Russia kill al-Qaeda terrorists! Do you big gad Russians know how much US taxpayers paid to have that head-chopping ape trained by NATO? Stop killing our terrorists!
Russia didn’t kill that guy that is more than obvious. Even if that guy would have some value as dead body (which he doesn’t have) they have very big list of reasons no to do it right now. And also not in such amateurish way.
Timing is also so inappropriate for Russia but so perfect for some people in US and NATO, to try to restart anti=Russian hysteria (for impeachment, to prevent collapse of NATO unity with Turkey and France getting more pro Russian) and even try to stop North Stream 2 in Germany in process.
We have no Russian hysteria here at all. You are propagandized, we are.
We see no Nato collapse as well. You say.
But Nato is old buit the idea of defence and attack is not. Therefore reforms and other changes has to be made. Thats not collapse.
In economics its very clear USA for many years has paid too much. Thats why our pay goes up. Instead USA has to pay less. Thats no escaltion as You insinuate.
I dont see France as well as Turkey getting more pro Russia. France always has tryed to be kinder to Russia then most others in Nato amd EU. Makron is just stronger in words.
Turkey is quite different. If I should decide, they were no Natomemeber yesterday and not because of some missiles not made in USA.
You wrote the same crap about Northstream 2 yesterday. Facts are many pipelines with gas and oil are good solutions or political solutions, so this is a competision among them, where dirty and sober methods on all levels are used.
Right. Nato should be re-organised from a defense organisation to an attack organisation, because attack is defense and defense is attack.
Therefore people misunderstand Natos purpose and call it obsolete and braindeath, because they don’t understand it.
I wasn’t talking about normal countries. I was talking above all about US and their anti Russian hysteria. But one can also consider Baltic countries, Poland and even UK to the smaller extent.
“reforms and other changes has to be made. Thats not collapse.”
Call it whatever you want, there is video of Macaroni and Trump barking at each other on the latest NATO press conference. Macaroni have also attacked Turkey for S-400 and for attacking Kurd’s. Also there was some anti-Trump gossip in public place by that Canadian mangina Trudeau and his buddies. Trump fired back calling him “two faced” person…all that Turk-Kurd problem doesn’t exactly make NATO look united I would say… If Turkey leaves; NATO will implode.
“You wrote the same crap about Northstream 2 yesterday.”
Northstream 2 is “crap” that Germany needs badly (and many other countries as well ) despite US and NATO opposition to the project. ( Because NATO is also against everything that might develop normal relations with Russia ) The point is Russia has huge market in China and Asia in general and doesn’t need EU . It is rather opposite. US gas is 20-30% percent more expensive which is unsustainable for German industry if they want to stay competitive…
I dont think USA overreact. They do react too hard noe and then and sometimes are too soft.
So its much more about methods and some people being Leaders in some countries dont understand normalæ talk an debate having traditions for the opposite.
I disagree a lot – as You mention Baltics, Poland and UK.
Fingers and hands out. Those Neocolonies never was belonging to USSR and certainly never should join the Politics of Putin.
So I see hard against hard and some realisme from the Russians. Those many regained countries and Ukraine as new has to find their own way out of a collapse of continel dimensions.
And Yes Makron and others are right. Its a big mistake by Trump using Kurds as second choise, they do well, and then leave them. Big mistake.
But its even a much bigger mistake, that we dont tie Turks in agreemenet about Kurds in those areas havin their own choises in their own -new countries.
Syria is the best example for a pilot projekt for the whole Region. Their program is advanced Democrasy having much local influence for initiaves of any local kind.
According to promises by Obama the USA would stay there until some agreement with Damaskus was made keeping Syria as one even thin united State, which according to Obamas – I agree in that – was needed ISIS from any regain there.
SDFs has done their part well and some little support here and there could erode the last leftovers away.
But we today – and for many years – see Turks acts as elephants in strawberry having a complete wrong politic for the whole Turkey, Kurds there as well as Kurds and others in their neighborhood, which partly includes the very stubbern greeks as well.
Trump naming any as 2 faced makes me feel very sad. I rely in nothig in that part of foreign policy as well as the internal one.
2 face to med cover a peace of paper having 2 sides only and maybee a women at one of them. The world and countries are not like that anymore. None can split things up and reduce them to 2, when there are 100 or 500 sides. By that its only a disagreemeent in those matter.
We and other countries do buy and sell a lot of stuff from Russia. USA has no right to stop our trade and not only buting oil and gas. USA by Trump almost deny in less expensive and less pollusive production for electriciry, warming and cooling as well.
Some states in USA doing like us having great succes. Thats California and parts of their East coasts and here and there only.
Russia is a very bad producers of many things, therefore we do like to sell our stuff as pay for oil and gas. I am very mixted in fx Northstream too and not because of the projekt as such. I just feel the fokus should be on wind and solar power making electricity.
Danes invented this to be a world thing and as we have seen that source has been innovated being less expensive then oil and gas. In the beginning the cost was 4 times more then those fossils and only close to fossils(apart from coal) when we comprimied 2,5 times.
I see no miracle thee for electric cars, but I see wind, where it is, can implement more electricity, which also is cleaner in all matter.
Solar power seames well as well as making all electric equipment making more what it should instead of a lot of hot are and erdoding the machines. I yesterday replaces an old low energy lamp. I have had it about 8 years and used it a lot. 15 watt in that time had replced 75 watt. And now it will be replaced by a LED one, which is even cheeper.
So thats why I am kind of passive forand ágainst Northstream, which by the way is one of many pipelines being as planes or being under construction.
By the way Norweigian one is comming by our territory too and we (EU) partly has decided replacing fossils with something else. …………………………….
Its fine to me The Russians and the Chinese make their own devellopments at that part of the Silk road. Both certainly need to make the cake to share bigger even its none of my business that so many Russians and Chineses are kept poor by their own Goverments.
I again will try to tell You that Russia as it is now dont have much to sell for Europe as well as China. Nothing. Those investments should be for their own populations, where they are needed. One of the reasons for the collapse of USSR was they not even produced to their own population, but when they did it sis not follow the need as well as the prices for the products was totally random.
The Chinese has radically changed and made a lot of production effective and need to upgrade the living standars fordeveral 100 million very poor in old agraable systems.
So forget Your incompetent attitudes about Russia and the rest of Europe. The fokus of Yours in very narrow. Many liberated or regained countreis do need even Russian stuff, but You have to produce good stuff to the price like S400, T34 and the Kalasnikof or else China just take You over in Sibiria not beig less expansionists then western europeäns and USA.
The vital things are inside Your belowed Russia. We see it every day. The last example is the new definition of “terrorists” as well as very subjektive internet control.
That by the way is same thing for the Erdogan-AKP Turkey.
You dont get the USA about gas at all. No gas from Russia cant be relatet to 20-30% more from USAin price at all. Its about replacing vital gas need at any cost neutralising that Russian weapon as well as it goes.
But US Gas is officially called ‘Freedom Gas’ by the shysters in the US. Sure the EU public should be clamouring to literally burn more of their income by purchasing Freedom Gas from US corporations ? :)
Yeah like “Freedom fries” instead of “French fries”…How original. What else one can expect from “Exceptional nation” but shiTloads of “freedom” and we all know that their freedom is very expensive… Just look US repressive domestic and global security apparatus they have. Only that security apparatus costs “Exceptional nation” an exceptional amount of money. But who cares the rest of the planet will pay the bills anyways.
Exactly, there is also the imminent ‘ Normandy meeting with Ukraine and Germany/France etc ‘ that Zionist interests within Germany would like to disrupt.
The assassination of a career terrorist who also fought for ISIS and who was living freely in Germany suggests yet another ‘clean up ‘ operation by NATO etc to conceal their links to the International Terrorism fermented by the US Coalition of Terror.
Agree except to me all this has more of “Deep State” (CIA, MI6) signature than NATO-Gladio department operation.
Could well be, I agree. All piss in the same pot of infantile lies. :)
The point is where it happend. And of course Your infection is total putting USA into it as well.
At least You could blame Georgia or something.
Es betrifft Deutschland, daher mein Kommentar auf Deutsch. …. Zuerst dachte ich, die 2 Russen hätten einen deutschen Orden bekommen… Da war mein Englisch wohl nicht gut genug?
Dieser zwei sind nicht Deutche polizisten.
As usual, finger pointing games, accusing without evidence. Russia no longer takes these things seriously, this is getting funnier, this is like a reflex. I think if the lice in their hair die, they will also automatically blame Russia. This has been very tiring actually. I have a suggestion, this is not a good suggestion but … how about just say that you want to rule the world from west to east but Russia stands in your way, just say you hate Russia and openly declare war on Russia. It’s better than continuing to play cat and mouse, hide and seek like this.
“just say you hate Russia and openly declare war on Russia”
They “hate” Russia because they fear them…
So they will never declare war on Russia unless they have no other choice left…. It’s not “hide and seek” really.
The only thing West “hides” is that they are bankrupt already. And only thing they “seek” is to find the victims who will fight proxy wars for them against Russia and China.
Yes, indeed. They are sleepwalking toward destruction and no one wakes them up.
You are blinddolded Yourself having carrots in Your ears as well.
And when we again get recession most of us are more secured then ever after the 2008 bad times.
The main collapser seemes to be Russia, if we by that buyes less oil and gas.
Check again your biased facts please! Russia is the ONLY country on the planet that does not really have any debt (unlike Western Europe). Because Russian debt that goes about 15% of GDP is covered completely with Russian foreign exchange reserve savings. Even ( anti-Russian ) Wall Street Journal has called Russia “bullet proof” because of their conservative fiscal policy and very sound financial situation !! They have NO DEBT and very stable economic situation with booming development with Chines market ! China is using Russian market as an alternative for lost positions in US and elsewhere. Their trade is already over 200 billion a year and growing! Investors from US are flocking to buy Russian bonds because undervalued and very profitable ! The worse it is globally the better for Russia I would say.
Russia is one of few countries on the planet that would go TOTALLY unharmed with the immediate collapse of the dollar and global depression !
“Most of us are secure.after 2008.”
Regardless of if we little people are secure matters not, there is still an unsustainable debt load, that is being kept afloat with quantitative easing.
How are the big debt holders survive then end of QE? I really dont know.
What do you think about the QE stategy and “too big to fail”
Oh crazy girl strike again ..! Save yourself guys.. hahaha. You know, you live in your fantasy world. In your mind you think you are a viking hero who is leading a viking horde to destroy all enemies who oppose you. There’s no point in explaining everything and arguing with you seriously. You are totally blind, from now on I will think of you as a mere clown, when I need entertainment, I will see your comments as a laughing stock .. hahaha..boooo
We are not bankrupt at all. You must be blind. Our debts mainly are based on productive loans, which gives production.
If You have no loans or almost none, You mainly are poor and low productive. I never wil choose that kind of economy.
Give me links for, whats better. Wher should I live i stead.
“We are not bankrupt at all. You must be blind.” Yes you are bankrupt. If dollar collapses today you will be bankrupt immediately. Because despite wealth EU (and whole planet) has huge unpaid debt on their backs. When dollar and global economy collapses it will be extremely difficult to pay that debt because the planet will reset everything to gold standard. To restart global economy. And price of gold will sky rocketed to the moon.
In case of world depression go to Russia. Try to follow economic developments there now. Even if you follow through biased Western financial newspapers you will see that Russia really has no debt and has HUGE potential. Specially because of new resources discovered in Arctic and new Arctic trade root that links Asia and Europe and Russian growing development in Asian part of Russia and trade with China. Russia is true oasis protecting from huge sand storm that is coming our way.
The dollar can collapse. Itonly can decline a little by little ir raise.
Descreibing Russia like that makes me think about the russian car industry, where they deliever the parking spaces in Sibiria.
USSR as well as the Tzars had that potential. Thats not the point. The point is, if Russians are able to use it. I see no tools for that.
Instead I see reduction in debating about it making good soulutions for it, which do the opposite.
I hope for Russia the many new deserts the comming within few years can be compensated by arctics being more productive and better acces be the big rivers.
Russian farmers being fishermen living in the dark most of the year makes me laugh a little too.
Cold and Dark Khoses – haha.
The Zio scum of the West would dearly love to control Russia and by so doing , control the Russian borders with China.
Actually the ideal scenario for them would be to use Russia for proxy war against China ( Like they were trying to do till now with Ukraine against Russia ) So they would sit and watch how one “bastard” country kill another “bastard” country so that they can effortlessly get spoils and total global dominance at the end.
Why not just say: “Yeah; we killed that Jihadi fuck. So what?”
Shot by an AK-47 bullet. Russians must’ve done it.
wow… the Germans get upset that an AQ terrorist gets whacked when it is trying to hide in their country? Maybe they should have fucking ARRESTED the MFer and deported him to face trial in Russia for his crimes?
Un-fucking-beliveable… What a pathetic loser nation they have become…
Nice job whoever greased this head-chopper takfiri ratfink.
No shit. They were going to deport him in the first place, gee I wonder why. You’d think they’d be quietly grateful. But then again, he was likely a US intel asset or a provocateur who could have been useful elsewhere. Maybe they’re just pissed because it was a waste of a good patsy.
Why would Germany deport Georgian citizen who is also CIA asset to Russia?!
Just to please Russia, because he was once sent there doing his job for CIA, MI6 and Muhammad ? US and major EU powers were propping up, supporting jihad terrorists like him in thousands in Syria. UK alone, took back hundreds of hard core jihadist from Syria. So what’s big deal about this one ?
So now protecting the innocent people and doing good in the world has become illegal? LOL
These people are insane, prepare for a cleaning, bunch of psychopaths they are.
Justice must prevail. No one deserve to be shot dead in the middle of the day in a Western park, and especially not a refugee family father with children. All sails should be set by all European, EU and the American governments and also the British government to investigate this attack on Western freedom and civilisation values. All stones should be turned in this case and the Russians should not think they can escape historical judgement.
LOL, very droll.
When militants that are part of groups listed as terrorist organisations attack Russia, Iran, China , etc., they are supported by Western bloc nations (and sometimes presented as heroes):
– “Within hours of the deadly attacks [against Russian personnel], the [US funded] Kavkaz Center – an organization known to be the propaganda mouthpiece of terrorist leader Doku Umarov – released an article characterizing the attacks as heroic acts” (America’s Long-standing Campaign to Destabilize Russia)
Western bloc support of terrorism (replicating the format of Operation Cyclone)
– “Putin stated that the terror in Chechnya and in the Russian Caucasus in the early 1990’s was actively backed by the CIA and western Intelligence services to deliberately weaken Russia…… President Bush Sr. gave his old friends at CIA the mandate to destroy that Russian Chechen pipeline and create such chaos in the Caucasus that no Western or Russian company would consider using the Grozny Russian oil pipeline. Graham E. Fuller, an old colleague of Bush and former Deputy Director of the CIA National Council on Intelligence had been a key architect of the CIA Mujahideen strategy…….
……….“The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Red Army. The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power.” The CIA used a dirty tricks veteran, General Richard Secord, for the operation….. In Azerbaijan, he setup an airline to secretly fly hundreds of bin Laden’s al-Qaeda Mujahideen from Afghanistan into Azerbaijan. By 1993, MEGA Oil had recruited and armed 2,000 Mujahideen, converting Baku into a base for Caucasus-wide Mujahideen terrorist operations….. Bin Laden’s mercenaries were used as shock troops by the Pentagon and CIA to coordinate and support Muslim offensives not only Azerbaijan but also in Chechnya and, later, Bosnia….. the CIA’s operatives were happy. They had what they wanted: their Baku–Tbilisi–Ceyhan oil pipeline, bypassing Russia’s Grozny pipeline…..
………”The Saudi and CIA-financed Islamic International Brigade was responsible not only for terror in Chechnya. They carried out the October 2002 Moscow Dubrovka Theatre hostage seizure and the gruesome September 2004 Beslan school massacre….. The Afghan-Caucasus Al Qaeda “terrorist railway,” financed by Saudi intelligence, had two goals. One was a Saudi goal to spread fanatical Wahhabite Jihad into the Central Asian region of the former Soviet Union. The second was the CIA’s agenda of destabilizing a then-collapsing post-Soviet Russian Federation.” (Did CIA Back Russia’s Chechen Insurgency?, Russia Insider, F. William Engdahl, May 15, 2015)
– “when Jabhat Al-Nusra was “besieged, we had officers from Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel and America here… Experts in the use of satellites, rockets, reconnaissance and thermal security cameras.” The journalist asked specifically if the US instructors were really present among the jihadists’ ranks and Al Ezz replied: “The Americans are on our side.”….. The money came from the “governments” of those states, not private individuals, he said. “Israel is now giving us support because Israel is at war with Syria and with Hezbollah,” Al Ezz said….. The commander openly confirmed that Jabhat Al-Nusra “are part of Al Qaeda,” the terrorist network responsible for the 9/11 attacks.” (‘Americans are on our side’: Al-Nusra commander says US arming jihadists via 3rd countries, RT, 26 Sep, 2016)
– “A new report citing former CIA officers has revealed that the agency was knowingly providing weapons, including tow missiles to fighters that were effectively part of al-Qaeda’s Nusra Front, continuing to arm “moderates” so long as they at least nominally kept their moderate names.” (CIA-Armed ‘Moderates’ in Syria Included al-Qaeda’s Nusra Front, by Jason Ditz, September 19, 2016)
– “According to Abu Khuder [an al-Qaeda operative], his men are working closely with the military council that commands the Free Syrian Army brigades in the region. “We meet almost every day,” he said. “We have clear instructions from our [al-Qaida] leadership that if the FSA need our help we should give it.” (Al-Qaida turns tide for rebels in battle for eastern Syria, Ghaith Abdul-Ahad, Guardian UK, 30 July 2012)
– “It is not lost on any of the foreign governments arming the Syrian opposition that they are in fact boosting radical Islamist organizations, some of which are close to al Qaeda. But it is not openly admitted. US officials prefer to depict the recipients of those weapons as “moderate” rebels. Israel sources admit that their military assistance reaches the hands of Al Nusra….” (Assad loses battles as US, Israel, Turkey, Jordan, Qatar and UAE arm Al Qaeda’s Syrian branches, Debka [Israel], May 4, 2015), etc……
There are many reports that establish the Western bloc continues to replicate Operation Cyclone (support of terrorist groups) as part of proxy warfare operations. Such criminal operations clarify the fraud that is the claimed ‘global war on terror’ that is in fact a pretext for engaging in acts of aggression against successive nations:
– “If the war does not significantly change the world’s political map, the U.S. will not achieve its aim” [D. Rumsfeld on the ‘Global War On Terror’]
In this context, the support of known terrorists by the German government should come as no surprise.
Thanks again.
“In Azerbaijan, he setup an airline to secretly fly hundreds of bin Laden’s al-Qaeda Mujahideen from Afghanistan into Azerbaijan.”
They did the same in Bosnia, Kosovo, Libya, Syria and now Afghanistan (by taking ISIS, Al Qaeda from Syria to Central Asia – Afghanistan closer to China – Uighur’s and Russia to start new false “jihads” there hoping to bring trouble to those countries.
Are we protecting terrorists now??? They should be skinned alive not only executed.. Shame on you Germany….
So our police, secret service or random made killers of ours should operate in Your country and kill as they wish too?
Nice, Thank You. I will renew the passport of my Gransmothers and support her with some smalller RPG for her big handbag and send her to You whereever You live. She never liked foreigners in her whole life even they live in foreign countries on foreign continents.
If it’s the second ”Skripal case”, then it’s bollocks, just like the Skripal hoax. The poison used in that farce killed only one person: the lady to whom was given a Novichok-laced perfume bottle found on a bin. The only venue in the world known to manufacture Novichok is in the USA. Translate this to the execution of a known al-Qaeda rat, who was an ally of the beast who carried out the Beslan school massacre. Why did Germany not extradite this animal to Russia to face justice? And was not the perp actually one of Ramzan Kadyrov’s heroes, who relinquished their Chechen badges in order to ”go wherever and strangle these enemies of Russia in their own lairs” (Ramzan’s own words)?
“… enough evidence to show that it was Russia OR Chechnya.” ROFL
In other words no evidence at all. This is a transparent attempt to assign blame before knowing the facts, that is so typical of the west now. Pathetic.