A Greek and a Turkish warship were involved in a collision on Wednesday during a confrontation in the eastern Mediterranean, a Greek defence source said, describing it as an ‘accident’.
Tensions were already high this week after Turkey sent a survey vessel to the region, escorted by warships, to map out sea territory for possible oil and gas drilling – an area where Turkey and Greece both claim jurisdiction.
Turkey’s plan to send its Oruc Reis seismic exploration ship to the disputed area was initially stalled by German attempts to broker a compromise. Encouraged by Chancellor Angela Merkel, Turkish and Greek officials planned to resume talks over competing maritime claims that had been suspended for several years.
However, the Turkish Government ordered the survey operation to resume after Greece and Egypt announced the signing of a maritime agreement that overlaps with the agreement signed by Turkey and Libya’s Government of National Accord late last year.
The Turkish Oruc Reis survey ship has been moving between Cyprus and the Greek island of Crete, escorted by the Turkish navy and shadowed by Greek frigates. On Wednesday one of the Greek frigates, the Limnos, was approaching the survey vessel when it entered the path of one of its Turkish naval escorts, the Kemal Reis.
The Greek frigate manoeuvred to avoid a head-on collision and in the process its bow impacted with the aft section of the Turkish frigate, the defence source said.
“It was an accident,” the source said, adding the Limnos was not damaged. It subsequently took part in a joint military exercise with French warships off Crete on Thursday morning.
Deniz yetki alanlarımızdaki hak, alaka ve menfaatlerimizin yılmaz ve kararlı koruyucuları Türk Deniz Kuvvetleri, MTA ORUÇ REİS araştırma gemimize refakat ve koruma görevine ilk günkü kararlılıkla ve aynı gemilerle devam etmektedir.#MSB #TSK pic.twitter.com/Fab91yxuSW
— T.C. Millî Savunma Bakanlığı (@tcsavunma) August 13, 2020
Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said France should refrain from steps that escalate tensions. Switzerland has offered to mediate in the row and Turkey has agreed in principle, Cavusoglu told a televised news conference with his Swiss counterpart in Bern, adding Greece will get a response if it interferes with the survey vessel’s mission.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Thursday that any attack on a Turkish ship exploring for oil and gas in disputed Mediterranean waters would incur a ‘high price’ and implied that Turkey had already taken measures to respond to the latest incident.
“We said that if you attack our Oruc Reis you will pay a high price, and they got their first answer today,” Erdogan said in a speech in Ankara, without giving details.
Shortly after the collision, French President Emmanuel Macron held a phone conversation with Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis and ordered the deployment of additional French warships and jet fighters to the area. Greece is planning to raise the matter and ask for solidarity at a meeting between European Union foreign ministers on Friday, a Greek official said.
Greece and Turkey are allies in NATO but their relations have long been fraught with tension. Disputes have ranged from boundaries of offshore continental shelves and airspace to the island of Cyprus. LINK
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Tiny bankrupt Greece may be cruising for a bruising.
Why veiled threats ?
What are you some “Turk expert” on Greece? I don’t think Turkey should underestimate Greece even though almost 10 times bigger population (which is huge difference) I admit… but still.
Turkey is part of G-20 and has a huge economy. In raw firepower its ranked top 10 militaries.
doesnt matter ,ur army is garbage dude.even rebels at syria raping ur asses lol
STUPID..Our loans in ‘Swiss’ ,with what will follow in Turkey, with their loans in ‘dollar’ , will look like a toy
It’s so difficult to revive an Ottoman Empire these days, but erDOGan still doesn’t seem to understand it.
Ottoman Empire already exists in his head he just can’t understand why all others can’t see it clearly, like he does… So not his fault obviously…He is Sultan Recep Tayyip the Magnificent and idiots keep calling him president Recep Tayyip Erdogan for to him, some unknown reason.
Hehehe, you nailed it, poor Sultan, he just cant understand why we arent on our knees in awe of His presence. Thanks for this months, best coment.
peace
wait time will show //////
You do not have time. !! The Turkish pound is collapsing.
https://prnt.sc/u01k4x
We got enough reserves don’t worry.. what happened to your drahma now you expecting hand over from Germany.. and rest of EU ??
Better to worry about Germany. Besides, Germany owed us tons of gold that it stole from Greece, during the German Occupation in 1940. !! And do not forget, we have oil deposits worth many trillions in the Mediterranean. !!
Poor German they never finish paying greek back all this time shame on .. typical Greek way of thinking everyone owe them. more ouzo? oil deposit where?
We have money for that and we are helping the Lebanese. But you did not send help, nor did the Germans.. The IKARIA Barge (L175) of the Hellenic Navy sailed on 12AVG20 to the port of Beirut, transporting medical and nursing staff of the Hellenic Armed Forces and pharmaceutical material as well as humanitarian aid of the Republic of Cyprus loaded from the port of Limassol the previous day.
https://twitter.com/isozygio/status/1294359187791781888
Greece was a colony of Turkey for centuries and will last a week at most.
Tell us better the other tale with Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs
hahaha funny bob, Turkey does not have the power to do anything. Perhaps you should check your resources because you act like Turkey is some kind of superpower, how can be so much stronger than Greece as u claim when military speaking both Greece and Turkey are peer adversary’s, both have equally sizeable navies, airforces and army. But Greece controlling the Aegean and being a seafaring nation for thousands of years will win, Hellenic navy has never lost a sea battle in its history especially against the turkish one. The airforce as well will rip apart the turkish one, Greek pilots are well better trained especially now that your Sultan got rid most of your experienced pilots after the failed coup. You should know your limits.
When the Greeks built the temple of Artemis in Ephesus there was not a single Turk in Ionia because he was still in the caves in Central Asia.
https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%9D%CE%B1%CF%8C%CF%82_%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%82_%CE%91%CF%81%CF%84%CE%AD%CE%BC%CE%B9%CE%B4%CE%BF%CF%82_(%CE%88%CF%86%CE%B5%CF%83%CE%BF%CF%82)#/media/%CE%91%CF%81%CF%87%CE%B5%CE%AF%CE%BF:Model_of_the_Artemisium_-_Ephesus_Museum.JPG
You can’t even feed your own people.. Turkey was there first anyway. How can you compare yourself with Germany and Turkey. South cp community send some help very nice of them
Goldman Sachs took everything from Greeks.
TURKS END THE LIES..This is the Hole of KemalReis … !!! There, at the height of the helicopter hangar carried by the Turkish frigate, a deep and wide crack starts, almost 4 meters long, maybe 5 … and with an opening of at least one meter !!! In the photo that NO ONE CAN deny, the number of the ship can be seen faintly on the bottom right … At the back, where the helipad ends, its coat of arms can be seen.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MS-COyVm4Dc/XzjVEaQ_ARI/AAAAAAAMH7Q/szJXuf94MXAXmTK22toJSMmKkV37EtWXACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/kemalreis.JPG
this looks like fishing boat ….sad geek ppaganda
Russian publication..do the Russians also lie ??
https://en.topcor.ru/15999-v-shage-ot-vojny-grecheskij-fregat-sovershil-naval-na-tureckij-korabl.html
if you look at the picture closely damages straight cut. not the messy one impact like that you can expect very messy damages.. Russian they never tell you true anyways. Propaganda
The rift caused by “Lemnos” in the Turkish frigate “Kemal Reyes”. And there is a video, which has been seen in the EU.
https://slpress.gr/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/kemal-reis-rigma.jpg
In order not to sink his ship, the Turkish captain filled water on the left side of the ship to level it and sail. But with the force that pulled the hull with so many cruising miles full of water in the ballast, it is a given that the hull has tilted and now elsewhere is the stern and elsewhere the bow. The total damage may well exceed $ 10 million, according to experts.
If one or more electric motors have been damaged then the cost will increase by 4.5 million for each electric motor if they decide to put a used one. If they put new ones, each one costs from 6-7 million. And of course the electric motors are enclosed in the steamer before it is “built” which means that it has to be opened completely from the sides, so there will be an additional cost in man-hours.
ΤΑΜΑΜ;;;;
I can’t believe I’m reading all this …the Greek way of thinking you lot is f***** up you lot born Brain Death…
If you can not stand the TRUTH, this is your problem, not mine !! There is also a video of the naval battle, which Macron has also seen, and it will also be released.
https://slpress.gr/english-edition/revealed-how-the-naval-battle-between-the-frigates-quot-lemnos-quot-and-quot-kemal-reis-quot-took-place-all-the-details/?fbclid=IwAR25tC5MwPuZMCzmrBPC0iVvOtD2NemxnX92_VQyNGJLHYVLXDJeT1OhyA8
If we did not have food for us, then HOW we can send food and aid to Lebanon and elsewhere??? Tell us better the other tale with Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs.
firstly Beirut Port was destroyed how can you delivery aid with navy. Quickest way to help is aircraft . plus Turkey open mersin port for Lebanese government. until they repaired Beirut ports. gadalaves re Andrea
” firstly Beirut Port was destroyed how can you delivery aid with navy.”
There is also the port of Tripoli. Yes I know the news about the port of Mersina,
Turkish economy is 15 times the size of bankrupt Greece, just saying…..
Wrong. Turkish GDP is 744 billions while Greek GDP is 224. About 3.5 times smaller not 15.
Not true. Growing tensions with neighboring Turkey have placed the Greek military on notice heading into 2020.
For 2020, Greece is ranked 33 of 138 out of the countries considered for the annual GFP review. It holds a PwrIndx* rating of 0.5311 (0.0000 considered ‘perfect’).
Here is nominal gdp rating for 2019 http://statisticstimes.com/economy/countries-by-gdp.php
And this is the nominal GDP Diffence in actual GDP is less, as Turkey has huge inflation for years
It has nothing to do with the Ottoman Empire. The main issue here is that Greece has unfairly owned the islands. Turkey used to be too weak to get this right, but now it is strong enough.
XAXAXAXAXAXA Turkey does not even have the right to own Minor Asia,Constantinople etc let alone the islands!
Turks are mongols they do not belong in the Mediterranean.
They have, they fight with their blood and their rights. Look who’s got Istanbul. Istanbul was hosted by many civilizations. Let’s see what you’ll do if Hagia Sophia falls tomorrow.
They fight with what? there blood? XAXAXA,they are so afraid to fight that they use mercenaries!! Constantinople was founded by Constantine the Great! The City was always Greek and soon it will return to its rightful owner.
Agia Sofia will never fall,no matter what erdogan does, he can not stop what is coming.If your a turk i suggest you to do a DNA test,who knows maybe you will also find that you have Greek DNA like this woman below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86RLzOPOB-0
“unfairly”?
Signed by THE GOVERNMENT OF THE GRAND NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OF TURKEY: https://wwi.lib.byu.edu/index.php/Treaty_of_Lausanne
REATY OF PEACE WITH TURKEY SIGNED AT LAUSANNE JULY 24, 1923
THE CONVENTION RESPECTING THE REGIME OF THE STRAITS AND OTHER INSTRUMENTS SIGNED AT LAUSANNE
THE BRITISH EMPIRE, FRANCE, ITALY, JAPAN, GREECE, ROUMANIA and the SERB-CROAT-SLOVENE STATE,
of the one part,
and TURKEY,
of the other part;
3 us lapdogs fighting each other. Funny.
It is disrespectful to the people really. Neither Greeks nor Turks are “US lapdogs” as nations. They are not responsible for the servile policies of their contemporary governments. Those polices do not reflect their state of mind. For example Greeks have refused to participate in NATO agression on Serbia only because of their own population. Also Turk Sunni Muslim population was never supportive of US mass slaughter of Sunni Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan etc. for no obvious reason but US hegemony.
I am talking about the governments not the people.
If you are “talking about the governments not the people” than say it . There is big difference between the two. BTW no need to brag about your country being “lapdog”. We all already know that, that is VERY OLD “news”.
When de Gaule died with him died french independence as well. And today even old traditional, true France, that has cherished that spirit of pride and independence is dead. France is not even France any longer but country in full mutation that is distancing France from her own tradition and roots. So if countries like France and Germany are not “independent” why would that be a case with anybody else??!?
There are only 3 truly independent countries on the planet China, Russia and of course U.S. ALL other governments are “lapdogs” to one of those 3 countries or to some combinations between those 3.
I said France is a lapdog just to show you that I have no desire to be disrespectful not because I wanted to teach you anything new. My first statement was ironic. Countries under us control and nato members are fighting each other. This is a clear example of the US gradually losing its capacity to impose its will on its puppets.
Turkey is the premier destabilizing l factor in the Mediterranean.
Turkey in Egypt, Syria, Greece / Eastern Mediterranean Sea … three fronts. Can Turkey really handle it?
Of course they won’t, what can you except from a bankrupt country? Turkey is bleeding with inflation and corruption. The tourism, that is a key economic element in Turkey has decreased seriously. High unemployment, lower purchasing power… A day or another Turkish people will rebel against Erdogan expensive Ottoman dream… Good luck damn rat Erdogan… May you run fast…
Nobody will rebel. Turks will sit quietly while Erdogan doing his oil business. Sultan has enough brainwashed “great turan” bashi-bozoocks to slaughter half of population.
Growing reliance on an internal industrial base, as well as support from Russia and Iran, has Turkey moving along its own path and now nominally part of a defunct NATO alliance.
For 2020, Turkey is ranked 11 of 138 out of the countries considered for the annual GFP review. It holds a PwrIndx* rating of 0.2098 (0.0000 considered ‘perfect’).
ZioAmerica Amis bleeding with inflation and corruption. France is bleeding with inflation and corruption. England is bleeding with inflation and corruption. Germany is bleeding with inflation and corruption.
etc, etc, etc …. Whats your point ?
Franco very nice of you worrying about TÜRKİYE but we can ensure you we doing fine we are not complaining… I bet you wish to have leader like ERDOGAN
C’est un rêve!
Westerners keep dreaming about “regime change” and keeping Turkey in the west, despite all evidence to the contrary. What a pipe dream!
There’s an entire generation raised under akp islamist rule (2002-). Good luck changing the mindset of those anatolian rednecks, who probably have seen the med only on tv and on maps.
No one has the guts or capability to attack Turkey.
wow You are really delusional dont u?
No one? No two or three? Is Greece the only country with a vested interest in stopping an expansionist Turkey?
Yeah say that to the Kurds..
stupid idiot yanni what problems we got with kurdish people? Some terrorist groups like everywhere else
These terrorist groups need their independence because they are not turks (donkeys) they are Kurds and they are not a few they are over than 25 million anyway turkey doesnt have much life its an artificial state and it will end….ok turkish cockroach?
Why don’t you scambag holding some Albanian some makedonian and Bulgarian. land’s Especially where Turkish population lives western th.?greek morons should give there land back. Turkish population wants nothing to do with scumbag like you now go back to your cave your priest wants you to play with him
We are not holding anyones land THEY are holding ours,albanians came from far away and the real Macedonians are Greeks this is proved very easily with a dna test,there is no turkish nation you are a multicultural nation mixed by greeks,armenians and others (this is proved with a dna test as well you can do one for your self) so stop busting our balls with your fake state and stop looking for fake allies and fake accusations (you are holding albanians and makedonians land),YOU are holdind others land all DONKEY (turkey) is stolen and you know that very well you jealous turkish cockroach and what ever is stollen eventually is returned back to its owner you got that you fuckin turkish fascist????p.s.Take your cockroach parents go to YOUR priest and complain to all three of them that when you were a young cockroach they took you to him and he played with your little dick and now its bald…hahahahaha!!
Balkan war territory taken over by Greek. Western. Eastern thrace belongs to Turkish people you like it or no their Turkish we are watching you any wrong doing. Will be there like thunder ⚡. you did take Albanian and macodonyan land. Stop denying dambo Greek
I am speaking to you with facts and I am supporting what I say and you are not answering you are saying again that we took land from albanians and makedonians without supporting it with facts just because is convenient for you and thats how they taught you to your fuckin gypsy donkey school, how is this possible since we are here for thousands of years????Eveything can be proved with a dna test but to this you dont answer because you dont have an answer you dont have anything to say…macodonyan???Hahahaha you are realy funny thanks for making me laugh my turkish muslim cockroach!!!Greetings from Europe….p.s. When are you going to do a dna test to find out about your ancestry and does your dick still hurt after the priest cut it when you were a small cockroach????”
Ottoman left over. go back to your cave your gay priest waiting for you., pusti
Gerçekten acınacak haldesin, seninle tartışmalarla konuşuyorum ve cevap vermiyorsun çünkü söyleyecek hiçbir şeyin yok, eşcinsel (poustis) senin baban ve çürümüş annen ve bam olduğunda hepinizi öldüreceğiz … Moğol pufuna dönün …
ottoman left over ..damarlarinda hala osmanli kani dolasiyor turkcen fena diyil. sizin papazlarniz hepsi pustur poustis..atalarna nankorluk etme .ben seninin sulaleni belerim re buttana
DNA testleri, Türklerin bile itiraf ettiğini söylüyor
You are don’t lie now. F****** a******
Yes, the USN and le Marine Nationale are shaking just at the thought …
Turkish navy is just 26 surface ships and 12 submarines. Literally just need 100-120 missiles and it’ll sleep with the fishes.
Votes for just asking a question? Hmmm.
Nothing is going to happen with Egypt…. Syria nothing going to happen..soo. you see your are alone again.. so be a gd girl now
The Greek frigate ‘LIMNOS’ ”touched” the TurkISIS frigate ‘KEMALREIS’ on its ‘behind’ … The Greek frigate went on to join the French excerises later that day. The Turk was taken to the nearest port for repairs… ?
https://youtu.be/4eJ4rchkrno?t=82 [Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/mAmRkIG.png)
Greece needs to wake up and realise it has no friends ,especially amongst its Nato allies. No European power helps Greece apart from some Luke -warm statements of Solidarity against Turkey…worth less than toilet paper.They will sell Greece out exactly as her “friends “did in Cyprus in 1974.
It needs to make secret allies to give it munitions and train asymmetrically .
As for SF saying both “Greece and Turkey claiming jurisdiction” is like saying the Virgin and her rapist both claim jurisdiction of her psssy ! Useless saying indeed!
But why you need help. do it yourself
We will memet.
“No European power helps Greece apart from some Luke -warm statements of Solidarity against Turkey” Wrong: https://www.france24.com/en/20200813-france-to-bolster-military-presence-in-mediterranean-over-turkish-gas-explorations
[Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/ZDZZ2sY.png)
WITH SO MANY OPEN ACTIVE FRONTS THAT THE TURKS HAVE, WITH SUCH DIFFUSION OF THEIR BATTLE UNITS, MILITARY LITERALLY WOULD DESTROY , IN 24 HOURS …INTERIORS WITHIN 48, AND STATE WITHIN 72+….IT IS ONLY ENOUGH FOR US THE GREEKS TO MAKE THE BEGINNING …REASONS ARE CONSTANTLY GIVEN TO US
Should get the caps lock on your keyboard fixed
Σας άρεσε που σας τον ακουμπήσαμε, έτσι? Που να σας τον βάλουμε κιόλας!
To translate this for you :
You liked it when we ”touched” your frigate, didn’t you? Imagine if we had full ”penetration” !
The Greeks and Turks need to tone down the ” homosex ” refrences.
You are not a homephobe are you?
Cause you know what they say about homophobes, they are the biggest ”uphill gardeners” them selfs!
I’m sorry to ruffle you Greek feathers. I dint know you’re into man love. BTW, A ” PHOBE ” had a fear of something. I dont fear Gays one bit, nice try though.
Wel lyou like to talk about the subject enough for us to come to conclusions…you know what I mean. So if you are not a homophobe then you must be a cryptohomo , its either one or the other, nobody talks about gays that much without a reason.
you love sucking dont you
Well, I did used to love your moms clit son. Then I got tired of her and now she has become a prostitute, but thats another story. So how are you? Are you still working on the street for money ? Take care of your mom. Ahh…best clit East of Constantinopole your mom’s clit!
” nobody talks about gays that much without a reason. ”
You’re obviously off your rocker. I mentioned the Gays in ONE post . WTF are you talking about ? Its OK if you like men, just dont drag me into your world.
Here take a pic to get you through the night pal, you look like you need it.
[Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/NasRxsj.png)
Listen Greek douchebag, I actually support the Greeks and have no love for the Turks, but you’re acting like a moron. Stop embarassing the White race.
Dont get upset, just cause you like the Greek sausage with veins!
I would actually be embarrassing the white race if I was to insert my big fat Greek Sausage into your dirty holes nigka !
But I aint gona do that, so why dont you get down and look for a shish-kebap like you always do turklover!
****
You’re an embarrassment to the Greeks, who I actually support. Stop with your homoerotic refrences. Thankfully most of your people are not like you. Lets make it clear also, I dont care for the Turks , however in its current state, Greece has no chance against them militarily. Thats you own government’s fault.
ahhaha No need to apologise, fags like you got to live too.
But about the Greek vs TurkIsis roach thing, you havent got the slightest fkn clue mr shitkebap lover.
The sliightest clue if what you think is that Greece has no chance against that bunch of useless baboonheads that cant even beat the Syrians or the Kurds!
You havent got the slightest clue if you dont know that 1/3 of their officers in the navy airforce and ground forces are in jail or have fled abroad (including even fled to Greece). Ok !
You havent got the slightest motherfucking clue if you dont know that both Russians and CIA intelligence agree that Greece can hold its own against the Turks in the Aegean Sea with its navy and even more in the air!
And as far as the ground forces we have proved it time and time again, last was vs Italy in WW2. Slightest mothrfkn clue gay boy!
So why dont you leave the cock talk aside for a change and go learn some mothrfkn history about the subject you are so keen to talk about. …yeah …you like Greeks !
GTFOH
FAGgot of War is not homophob and don’t you ever turn your back on him either.
Other way round slavic left over
They are just Ottoman garbage fucking Turkish shit.
Another ottoman and leftover
Greece will give back those unjustified Islands. Turkey must and will take back its continental shelf. The Little Boy is in Greece , meeting with his brothers. If Greece has the guts, come alone. LOL
Do not worry at all, the plan is already progressing for the liberation of our lands.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/560b3df8902f44824e8826f3fac68f631ddebd123e60497aa60bce17d9ba2f39.gif
Greece will NOT GIVE ANYTHING! Maybe we should start asking for our 2 islands Imbros and Tenedos., Mitsotakis will not be prime minister for long. the OTHER who will come will not be so good! We want Ionia and Imbros and Tenedos back … for a start.
Another kebap …
[Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/6p6c7GT.png)
Souvlaki Gay
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Greece needs to bugger off lgbtq eu-epp for starters,then we get to understand true spartan balls, No future in fascism nor lgbtq(period)
Either way if neighbours get into conflict,both would end up fkd,never forget ww2 greece ousted nazis in 221 days from their mainland,so no it wont be easy on either,yet its not like anyone(usa,eu,uk) gave a rats arse when turkey took over northern cyprus,why now akk of the sudden they care about
christianity,yet the same not gave a rats arse about that fake orthodox bishop(whatever) carrying the soros banner on the sly?
Fk ’em off greece,tell pyatt where to go,that deep state obummer shill need begone,fk it off for good, if not then the eu-epp or both! Make better friends with the russians not the cia/p00sties!
Treacherous Merkel, in fear of millions of Pro-Muslim Brootherhood Terrorist Erdogan supporting Turks with German “nationality” always bowing to him. How come a few million of them trump 75+ million Germans and 100s of millions of Europeans and their national security?? Traiterous scum.
[Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/1Z9s2hT.png)
Stupid idiot cu… t.. computer stick you using why don’t you just sit on it spin around. you dirty filthy stupid Cockroaches… I am always against the war but people like you asking for it… I wish one day we fight and you will see what’s going to happen.. I don’t think anyone will come to your help this time . definitely not British. You are just like a fiddler on the roof playing same music…. piiiss offfff
Computer stick? ahhaahhahaahhahaa TurkIsistanland has got computer sticks !
hahahahahhahaha You are suck a dumb baboonokefalos ! hahahhahaa
These events happened comes from the issue of the East Mediterranean and Hagia Sophia. More unusual events happen in the future. Macron don’t step back the issue.
more complicated than many assert—Greece, France, Egypt oppose Turkey; Egypt alone has a more formidable military than turkey…turk US interests align in Syria, not in Libya where France and Egypt align w LNA—USA/Russia seemingly neutral but maybe tilt to LNA…turkey increasing unemployment, poverty, Kurdish rebellions suggest that turkey cannot sustain their imperialism long