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Hayat Tahrir al-Sham Continues Advance On Turkish Proxies In Western Aleppo. More Than 100 Killed In Clashes (Map)

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After imposing its control of the strategic town of Darat Izza, Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) continued its advance in the western Aleppo countryside on January 2 and captured the villages of Kafrintin and Maklabis after heavy clashes with the Turkish-backed Nour al-Din al-Zenki Movement.

Hayat Tahrir al-Sham Continues Advance On Turkish Proxies In Western Aleppo. More Than 100 Killed In Clashes (Map)

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According to Syrian opposition activists, Abu al-Yaqzan al-Masri, an infamous Egyptian scholar and military commander, is leading the attack against the Nour al-Din al-Zenki Movement. HTS, which is the former branch of al-Qaeda in Syria, launched the attack after accusing al-Zenki of assassinating four of its fighters last week.

Citing local sources, the Lebanese al-Mayadeen TV said that over 100 militants of HTS and the Nour al-Din al-Zenki Movement have been killed so far. Furthermore, many civilians have been reportedly injured and killed as both sides are shelling residential areas in western Aleppo.

Despite that HTS appears to be determined to neutralize the Nour al-Din al-Zenki Movement, local observers believe that Turkey will facilitate a ceasefire agreement between the two groups soon, as it did during the previous rounds of infighting.

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Moursal Admaj

I feel sorry two brothers kill each other

You can call me Al

I don’t, I laugh and cheer. The more inbreeds that die, the better.

jorge

Allah the magnanimous has send more 100 desperados to hell, but has made some colateral damages on the civilians, may be He is needing glasses.

Ivanus59

lol, Turkey is not there to “stop terrorism”, but to keep peace between terrorists. :] 2019 sounds like the year for SAA to liberate Idlib finally. :)

Tudor Miron

Rats eating each other. Good.

jorge

Pity only because of the civilians.

BMWA1

Moderate rebel vs. moderate rebel, BOTH fighting for freedom against Animal Assad.

Tudor Miron

Their “freedom” means slavery for Syrian people.

RichardD

Clearing Idlib is being put on hold because of the possible US withdrawal. Which the Jews are trying to derail with the resumption of their airstrikes on Syria after the deployment of the 3 battalions of S-300s to the SADF. For the time being the IAF has neutralized these new systems by their successful attacks on Syria. Success being defined as not being deterred or shot down. Though the attacks themselves were largely thwarted by most of the ordnance being interdicted.

I’d be surprised if these victories over the Russians and Syrians by the Jews doesn’t slow or stop the US withdrawal until these IAF airstrikes from outside of Syrian airspace can be stopped. These new SADF S-300s are a lot closer to S-400s in capability than they are to the S-300s that most operators of these systems have. Because they use identical or almost identical missiles as the S-400s. Because the SADF S-300 systems are the most advanced version currently available. And unlike most operators, these SADF systems have full Russian satcom and electronic warfare integration or close to it. And they’re part of a larger theater wide 1,000 launcher strong network.

And with 3 battalions, the Syrians have enough to maintain escalation dominance over the IAF, if they work against modern NATO fighters in combat. The Jews are making the case that they don’t work for deterrence because they’re currently flying missions against them with none of their planes being shot down. When if these systems worked properly. The IAF jets would be shot down. The questions that everyone watching this unfold are asking is why aren’t the attacking IAF fighters being shot at? Or are they being shot at and the S-300s are missing their targets.

Until this issue is resolved, in my opinion it’s going to be difficult to get the US out and the war wrapped up. And the Israeli provocations and Yinon plan implementation and destabilization will continue unabated.

jorge

With all those “victories” the zionists are in risk of being put in the madhouse.

RichardD

I don’t understand your reply. What’s your point?

jorge

There’s no point, it’s a joke, and isn’t funny to explain a joke.

RichardD

The people who have these systems have watched Russian systems being overrun by NATO aircraft numerous times in Iraq, Lybia, Syria and elsewhere. And the recent successes in Syria has improved their reputation. This latest upgrade to the S-300s is early in it’s deployment. And as you point out there’s a legitimate question as to whether the SADF has them operational in their command.

There’s been no official extension of the 90 day training time frame. And the reports of an extension from unnamed sources can’t be verified. The last couple of attacks near the end of the maximum stated training schedule fall within a grey area. Any further IAF attacks that result in non SADF interdiction of attacking aircraft are going to further damage the war effort, even if the attacks have little effect on the Syrian government coalition’s operational capabilities. They risk slowing or stopping the US withdrawal, fueling further terrorist activity, and damaging the marketability of these systems and Russia’s value as an ally and security guarantor.

Nucu

jews are attacking from outside syria airspace. they can not use s-300 on the fighters as the missles will be targeted by IAF air defences. they will be kept for the most dangerous attacks of the IAF.

RichardD

Please provide a link showing that S-300 missiles can be stopped by Israeli air defenses. Unless I’m mistaken, they travel a speed above what the Israeli air defenses are capable of intercepting.

Nucu

you may be right. but we don’t know exactly if they have the latest variants. also s-200 seems to have mach 4 but are still intercepted when fired in Israel.

RichardD

“s-200 seems to have mach 4 but are still intercepted when fired in Israel”

I’m not aware of Israel having any system capable of intercepting them or having ever intercepting a S-200. Do you have a link?

“missile speed is around Mach 8”

– S-200 (missile) –

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-200_(missile)

Nucu

the right panel of the wiki article said speed: mach 4(5V28V-Vega?) but the article mentions missile speed mach 8. I don’t have a link but in the latest Israeli attack an article on SF said that IAF activated their air defences against Syrian AA missiles. I have read this before at times of other attacks.

RichardD

Somebody has edited those panels recently to downgrade the speed. There are different versions of the missiles with different speeds for different applications.

I didn’t ask if you had links for missiles being shot at. Anyone can shoot at them. I asked if you had links for them being taken down. There’s a big difference. Evidently you don’t. As I expected. Which is why I asked.

Nucu

hard to get info of what really happens in Israel. here is one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_2017_Israel%E2%80%93Syria_incident

RichardD

“Video posted on social media purported to show remnants of a rocket, possibly parts of the intercepting missile, though Reuters was unable to independently verify the footage.”

– Israeli military claims it shot down a Syrian missile –

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/israeli-military-claims-it-shot-down-a-syrian-missile-1.3014987

The unverified claim that you found was in response to an unverified claim that IAF jets had been hit. Out of the hundreds of launches of S-200s over the years, it’s the only report of an intercept that I’m aware of, it’s unverified and of questionable veracity considering the extensive credibility deficit of the IDF that purportedly made the unverified claim. I looked and couldn’t find the IDF source for the news stories. What the IDF actually said may have been misquoted because there are conflicting versions of what happened all citing the same purported IDF source:

“An IDF aerial defense system activated in response to an anti-aircraft missile launched from Syria,” the army said in a statement.

It did not say where or even if the missile was successfully intercepted.”

– Israel fires at missile from Syria –

https://www.timesofisrael.com/syria-says-air-defenses-deployed-against-enemy-targets-near-damascus/

RichardD

These are the source references for the Wikipedia article that you linked to:

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a495c7381b52bcf9661c07ddc92e7909ba7dfa83441ccc6e5163219e62b755f9.png

The entire report is built around an alleged IDF Twitter statement. But as you can see from the footnotes the Twitter statement isn’t included. The whole thing looks like a scam. I’m sure that the evil Jews are all over Wikipedia trying to rewrite history and articles with their lies to cover up their crime, corruption and evil. This report and Wikipedia article looks like one of those attempts.

Nucu

aslo : http://www.jewishpress.com/news/middle-east/syria/israel-intercepts-anti-aircraft-missile-attack-from-syria/2018/12/25/

RichardD

Are you trying to infect my computer with a virus? This is what that link leads to: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c1ab08a8d70b878f9a93f547fcde2be60e6a27790f0e61d86f5f68f9b52fec23.png

Nucu

i didn’t make the site.. and it works for me so I don’t know what is that.

RichardD

I tried it again, and it brings up an article describing the same incident and refers to an IDF Twitter statement. The alleged quote in the article doesn’t say anything about an interception. Only that:

“An IDF aerial defense system activated in response to an anti-aircraft missile launched from Syria,” the IDF Spokesperson said in a statement posted to Twitter. …

“An air defense system was launched against an anti-aircraft missile launched from Syria. There is no damage and no casualties,” the IDF Spokesperson said.

Which as I pointed out in another reply to you, even the Zionist media is denying that the original statement, that even the Wikipedia article doesn’t link to. Doesn’t say anything about an interception, only a launch. The whole thing is very fishy coming from an evil cult that lies habitually. It looks like the story may be psyop disinfo.

Nucu

we all know that Israel censors everything. I think it’s safer to assume that they have the capability to intercept large missles with the Arrow system. It may not be cost effective but they could use it against a missle that may shot down an expensive jet.

RichardD

I never said that they couldn’t intercept large missiles. I said that I don’t think that they can intercept hypersonic anti aircraft missiles traveling at speeds faster than what their anti ballistic systems are designed to intercept. Other than 1 questionable report that even Zionist media outlets say didn’t claim an interception. You haven’t provided any proof that any of the Israeli systems can intercept Russian hypersonic anti aircraft missiles.

RichardD

It looks like Wikipedia may be compromised by the lying Jew vermin. Wikipedia used to list speeds in the panels for the S-200 & S-300 missiles as mach 9 and mach 7. This is from a dated technical article of a lot of depth on the S-300:

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8f1c7cad9516766c682bc523536b995214989e60da2c024320ffb87784715309.png

– Almaz S-300P/PT/PS/PMU/PMU1/PMU2 Almaz-Antey S-400 Triumf SA-10/20/21 Grumble/Gargoyle

Technical Report APA-TR-2006-1201 –

by Dr Carlo Kopp, AFAIAA, SMIEEE, PEng

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Grumble-Gargoyle.html

PZIVJ

“Because the SADF S-300 systems are the most advanced version currently available” This was a regiment set retired by a Russian unit, so would not be the most modern. Russian MOD stated it was converted to PMU or PMU-1 ? So max range may be somewhat limited. But you never know what missiles could be added in the mix ?

RichardD

S-400 Missiles: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d041dff2a4f44b315678c142acf9aef67175b2e1d4eef0f4a4a0ecea94bc7a0d.png

– S-400 missile system –

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-400_missile_system#Current_operators

RichardD

S-300 Missiles: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/55a01ab213aefd5011b149e3153bb97429d4b3e7136304cd8c3660718de2a7cb.png

– S-300 missile system –

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_missile_system#Comparable_SAMs

RichardD

On September 24th the Kremlin reported:

“The President of Russia informed about the decision to implement a number of additional measures in order to ensure the security of the Russian military in Syria and to strengthen the country’s air defense system, including the transfer of the S-300 modern anti-aircraft missile system.”

– Telephone conversation with Syrian President Bashar Assad –

http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/58614

On November 7th Tass reported:

“All three battalions armed with S-300PMU-2 systems are ready for combat operation in Syria. Syrian military personnel is now to be instructed in their use,”

– Russian specialists reconfigure S-300 systems in Syria –

http://tass.com/defense/1029616

PZIVJ

Need to understand the source of news, not what we hope to be true. From your tass post: “a military-diplomatic source told Tass” Must be a mystery person, but maybe disinfo source ?

RichardD

“TASS is registered as a Federal State Unitary Enterprise, owned by the Government of Russia”

– TASS –

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TASS

RichardD

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f0435c49d4933d6836ca5bd35c482ae89c2ea89d7a9d038e4aab28dd2370572b.png – S-300 missile system –

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_missile_system#S-300PMU-1/2_(SA-20)

RichardD

“S-300V4 missiles have a range of 400 km at Mach 7.5 or a range of 350 km at Mach 9 and can destroy maneuvering targets even at very high altitudes.”

– S-300 missile system –

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_missile_system

PZIVJ

There are rumors Russia has this in Syria? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/300e01eee080f16843841de364a87c883f87a3b4123e6c81a908a87deccca909.jpg

RichardD

That’s a launcher, not a missile. What the missile interchangeability is may be classified. The VMs are in the S-300 family tree. These SADF S-300s are so close to S-400s. That the S-400s probably have similar missiles to the VM that the S-300s can launch. If they can’t use the actual VM missiles. Egypt has the VM system, so it’s possible that Syria has it also and it isn’t open source at this time.

PZIVJ

Did you even read the charts you posted numnut ? The V stands for a tracked vehicle, not the type of missile. WTF Richard !!!

RichardD

What is it about “S-300V4 MISSILES have a range of 400 km at Mach 7.5 or a range of 350 km at Mach 9” that you don’t understand?

PZIVJ

Now you try to deflect ? LOL Did you even read the charts you posted numnut ? The V stands for a tracked vehicle, not the type of missile. WTF Richard !!!

RichardD

It’s not my quote, it’s the source quote. The QUOTE refers to the MISSILES that the VM system uses. What don’t you understand about that?

Rupert Armstrong

As far as i’m aware the Syrian operators of the new S300’s haven’t been fully trained yet so they aren’t yet active or in use. I think I read that they would be by end of January or Febuary.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

Nour al-Din al-Zenki, laugh hilariously as they slit young boys throats for the camera, eat the livers of dead SAA soldiers, trample over the bodies of women and soldiers they’ve just killed, and rape female captives or worse, what a lovely bunch of gentlemen Erdogan has under his employee. There is no difference between HTS and Nour al-Din al-Zenki, they’re more alike than they are different, and this is one of the groups Erdogan would install as security in Idlib if he had total control. I wonder how many of the locals that originally supported Erdogan’s intervention into Idlib still feel the same way about it now. After seeing so many repulsive atrocities committed by the people on your own side for so long, I’m sure some of them would have to be changing their minds by now, and wondering what the hell have they gotten themselves into.

antoun

nour al den zenki= wolfen green=fascist turk

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