On October 14, heave clashes between Kurdish Peshmerga forces and the Iraqi Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) broke out inside the Turkmen Shiite Tuz Khurmatu town 50km south of Kirkuk city, according to Iraqi sources.
Initial reports claimed that Peshmerga units opened fire on the Dah Dah Hussainiya hall in al-Askari neighborhood of Tuz Khurmatu town. A Hussainiya is a hall used for Shiite commemoration ceremonies, and its considered by Shiites a holy place just like Mosques.
Video shot seconds ago clashes continue in Tuz Khurmato between #Peshmerga and #PMU. pic.twitter.com/YAW0jKEnGb
— Iraq Day (@iraq_day) 13 October 2017
Iraqi sources reported that local PMU fighters in Tuz Khurmatu town destroyed a vehicle of the Peshmerga during the clashes. In turn, Peshmerga shelled PMU positions inside the town with mortars.
Another video from inside Tuz Khurmato, clashes continue, civilians are getting involved now. pic.twitter.com/pVxrwjUUNp
— Iraq Day (@iraq_day) 13 October 2017
Meanwhile, an official of the PMU confirmed to the Iraqi media that heavy clashes are ongoing around the Turuz hospital in the center of Tuz Khurmatu town. However, the official said that the clashes are with “unknown” gunmen.
The situation in Tuz Khurmatu town is still not clear, especially that no officials of the Kurdistan Region Government (KRG) or the Iraqi Federal Government have commented on the ongoing clashes yet.
An impact site of the Peshmerga mortar fire:
More about the PMU:
Hardly believable, especially that it was KRG starting.
They know the tense situation and it is not KRG escalating tensions.
Tomorrow it will be clearer.
Shut up you dumb subhuman kike ape
Obvious neonazi. Follow your leader…
Nobody wants, nobody likes, kikes, kikes, kikes.
Troll and neonazi. A total failure?
kike Jew is total failure.
You are probably a self-hating Jew.
haha I admit that was the first time I’ve heard that one, not sure how you came to that conclusion but it’s still amusing. Anyways I’m done talking to you.
So you have learned to use a keyboard. Congratulations, you deserve a scratch and sniff sticker
Well you just like to troll why don’t you scratch your ass and sniff that.
I don’t troll, I live. There is a difference my friend. Learn to breathe properly and become one with self. I find Tai Sing Pap Kar and Fu Jow Kuen are both therapeutic to the body and mind. Step outside of your religious circle and learn something new.
your such a doosh, the krg is nothing but a font for you know who and all they want is a major conflagration
(((dutchnational))) is a kike Jew rodent scum
Maybe, but he is Kurdish, a rather dumb one at that.
iraqi led coalition will be victorious against zio satanic terrorists
The non-Kurdish occupied areas must be liberated from the Kurdish fascists.
Kurds are not fascists. On the other hand, Ba’athism is based on communism and fascism.
You are both right
It is based on both? haha they are polar opposites. Communism is ‘What’s yours is mine’ = The state takes away from you for the state Fascism is ‘What’s mine is your’s’ = A community that gives to the greater good They have nothing in common.
Both are statist authoritarian ideologies and stem from Robespierre.
Fascist? Try communists.
They blend both so think of them as Antifa-Fascistas.
Death to the Piss-merga Zionist puppet scum.
Peshmerga in one mobilization could run through Iraqis defense. They have tactical mobility and the most professional military men in the region. They are also Highly disciplined.
The US won’t fight Iraq’s war this time and have already bailed them out twice and fought the fight for them. The Kurds could easily conquer baghdad
Volunteers from around the world must flock to the aid of humanity against the anti-human-kurd’s! When kurd’s detonated bombs to hurt people in Iran, they have hurt us all. When kurd’s committed the Armenian Genocide, they declared war upon us all! It is up to us to confront these bigots on all fronts, wipe them off of the internet as well!
Their days are numbered in Iraq, they will lose their autonomy status when the dust settles I assure you.
they will lose autonomy :) we wil take Bagdad even you dreamer if you want lose any meter of Kurdistan land .no way we will not let.65 million Kurds with them Southern Kurdistan brothers.war is just beggining.that time Peshmerga should let isis tkae control of Bagdad.now their ass is itching shia bitches.if they stay good neighbour its ok.if not iraq will turn to hell for iran and enemy of all Kurds.
haha not sure if you’re a Jew troll or dumb Turd but you should check the news today, we’re already on the march and have already taken some of your fake “Turdistan” land. Your leaders are already crying for outside help because they know they’re doomed. I feel sorry for how dumb you guys are.
Kurdistan was taken already now time to take back babe.KURDISTAN is soon.
Volunteers from around the world must flock to the aid of humanity against the anti-human-kurd’s!
are you already on the way?
He / she is a brave keyboard warrior who hates 90% of people on Earth.
:))
Block it, it just takes you away from conversing.
I cannot see it’s comment as I blocked it, but I can imagine.
when iran fckng regime detoneited really bomb to Kurds you mean isnt it?and hanging every day tens of people.your nick is anti but you are one ofthe gayest Racist.we Kurds also should be little bit ten percent of you racist i wish.fck armenian Kurds didnt kill them dont try more here it will not work,everbody knows turks did even armenian knows.Kurds and Armenian,Jews,Turkoman,Alevites Sunnite and christians are good friends.if no Kurds no minor ethnicities in middle east.you too.
The funny thing with the Kurds that I noticed is that they are like the ”iceberg in titanic” it’s elusive and tricky then you can see and the reason why I’m saying this is because there numbers are elusive and not real.
Example I don’t know if anyone of you recall what happened in Kobane. ISIS went in there but ended up fighting Kurds back-up hordes from Turkey which overwhelmed ISIS.
The Iraqi army will open 3 roads of in flow towards themselves. Because they are located in the middle of the Kurdish heartland and have borders on all 3 sides.
The Iraqi gov’t can’t fight a war with the Kurds at this year or time without foreign backing which I doubt will come. They have to let Turkey or Iran fight for them because they can’t defeat nor take on millions of kurds right on their borders. Military success by Iraq is impossible in this war and Barzani knows this
no need iran or turkey to flush kurd zionist slave. PMU alone can handle kurd..
if PMU can’t handle kurd, at least PMU will make suffer to kurdish and ruin their plan to make independent state..
Sorry, please try your reply again :O https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7f788d17599eacf249708b1218770876ffbad7233c5ab0fb2afcf359c5c2ee45.jpg
You have been changed, cryptonazi. :))) But with such bih ears, maybe you will more listen to wise solomon. :P
LOL, very good.
Thanks a lot!
Same thing AMN said no difference.
But … the PMU was created to fight ISIS!
PMU is sword of Iran.
Of course!
Well how stupid is uszioyankistan for invading iraq,getting rid of saddam and pushing iraq shia to iran’s arms? Only retards could not see this coming!
Does it matter? If a force kept ISIS at bay when the army was running away in fear I wouldnt care much who is behind it..
Kurds must go on mars.
Iran controls these PMU but the Iraqi government will be responsible for this civil war. There is no way that the PMU will defeat the Kurds. Such a war would actually result in the split of Iraq into three states and the weakening of Assad. Because the Sunnis in Iraq will not sit still. And the Sunnis in Syria will take advantage of a Shiite-Kurdish war. Iran is making a big mistake. Too bad.
in this case this is not sure. also sunnis does not like kurds. sunnies without kurdish and shia oli fields are sandeaters…
My argument is that the Sunnis hate the Shi’ites and Assad more than they don’t like the Kurds. So the Sunnis will take advantage of this unnecessary war. In my opinion, such a war will also cause unrest among the Iranian Kurds. Iran is causing a civil war that will harm Iraq. ISIS were a foreign element with an alienated ideology, so it was easy for everyone to unite and fight them. The Kurds are a local fighting people. There is no way in the world that the Shiite militias will defeat the Kurds.
this is in iraq. syria is another chapter.
Time will tell.
Are Turks Sunni or Shia? Don’t you think your theory must be reviewed?
I didn’t mention the Turks here.
But Turks are pice of equation and are Sunni. Even more, Turks have imense influance over the Sunni in the region.
You’re right about Turkey. But if the PMU attacked the Kurds it would be perceived as a Shi’ite-Kurdish struggle. I do not see how it can end well for Iraq.
Peshmerga attacked since they opened up with a 23mm gun learn the facts as only pro Kurdish sites make those claims.
At my point, there is a very hard situation for Kurds. Iran and Turkey are against their independency. Iraq too. There are no avenues to massive resupply peshmerga in case of the war. I do not know who’s idea was to proclaim the independence, but that man for sure works against the USA. Nations make alliances much faster if they have the common enemy. Somebody gifted to the Turks, Persians and Arabs that enemy.
It is hard to say whether the Kurds made a mistake or not. We do not know what their leaders know. On the other hand, they knew that Iran, Syria, Iraq, Turkey and the United States would oppose a Kurdish state in northern Iraq. Time will tell who was wrong and who was right.
They are majority Sunni about 65% and 35% other religions.
yes. but until now i always saw large differences between these two countries.
To me too Syria and Iraq are different. But they are made up, mostly, of the same peoples / religions. And I heard Sunni Iraqis talking about independence since the Kurdish referendum. I also heard Sunni rebels in Syria saying that a Kurdish-Shiite war is a golden opportunity for them since it would slip into Syria.
No doubt, there are also such sunni groups. Problem is, they think, can have shia territories. but this is their mistake. if iraq will be split, the shia territories with oil fields come to iran. like crimea to russia. and sunnis will have some hills in deserts, without shore. i think, yanks and israelis did not think over deeply the whole problem with splitting of countries.
I agree with most of what you wrote. Only I think that the Americans did not think about the effect of their actions because they do not really understand the Middle East (I do not think it is in America’s interest that Iraq or Syria split ). And there is an overestimation of Israel’s influence.
you are right
Stop making a fallacious comment you are being a fake right now, there have been nothing like your claims just pure fantasy.
I wonder why my ideas are so threatening to you. On the other hand they might make you think. But if it’s so hard for you, maybe you should not read them.
Don’t want to burst your bubble but everything you comment has some serious flawed information, the only thing it makes me do is *facepalm. There is no reliable information just your opinion which is vaguely similar to some policy wonks misconceptions .
“the only thing it makes me do is *facepalm” try harder next time, knock some sense into that empty head of yours
Your the empty headed person here,try not sitting on yours.
It’s so lovely that you respond to my messages! Under that thick skin of yours, you might even procreate some sense of humour. On a serious note, what’s your take on Turkish Army incursion into Idlib province? Reading a lot of conflicting reports
Everything has been conflicting in regards to the actions by Turkey. The events unfolded in Iraq as I surmised, mostly the volunteer forces bore the brunt of the advance.While the other militias and KRG militia and PKK left in the ISOF, Ezidi and Turkmen PMF advanced with them. The Talabani left after the Barzani pulled out, Masoud used this as a way to grab power for 2 more years.
ISIS is 100% Iraqi. ISIS is the radicalized remnant of Sunni Ba’athist Iraq.
ISIS are originally al-Qaeda to which remnants of Saddam’s army have joined. They came as an occupying force from western Iraq / Syria.
Yeah but it is 100% Iraqi while Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham is Qatari. Ahrar al-Sham is Turkish and Hezbollah is Iranian. Taliban is Pakistani and Al-Qaeda is Saudi.
isis is 50% saudi and 50% israeli
ISIS is neither Saudi or Israeli. ISIS is Sunni Iraqi. Al-Qaeda is Saudi.
Same shit, different bucket!
Yes.
Your argument is erroneous. The militant sunnis certainly despise Assad & the Shia, but before the war Syria was secular. The population saw themselves as Syrians first. The SAA are majority Sunni fighting for Assad. If they despised the president then they would have revolted & all joined the rebels (some did this of course) . Clearly they are loyal to the motherland first. Simply categorizing people along religous & ethnic divide does not mean they all have the same goals. There are plenty of Sunnis who support Assad
I tried to simplify things. But you are right that most of Assad’s army is made up of Sunnis and many Sunnis in Syria and elsewhere support Assad. On the other hand, I heard Sunni Iraqis talking about independence since the Kurdish referendum. And I also heard Sunni rebels in Syria saying that a Kurdish-Shiite war is a golden opportunity for them since it would slip into Syria.
Read this..Explains alot..
http://theduran.com/the-proxy-war-against-iran-is-under-way-in-iraq/
KURDS SPECIALY DOESNT HAVE EXPERIANCE OF URBAN FIGHITNG ALL THIS YEARS BUT PMU HAS GAINED THAT EXPERIANCE IN JUST 2 YEARS TIME . FOR PHESMERGA TO DEAL WITH PMU WILL BE LIKE LOSING MORE GROUND ALL THE TIME . AND SECOUND SUNNI WILL DEFENETLY JOINED THIS FIGHT TO MAKE SURE BARZANI KURDS WILL PAY HEAVILY OF MISTREATING SUNNI IN KIRKUK AND OTHER ARES WHERE THE FORCED REMOVED SUNNI FROM THIER HOMES IN NORTHEN IRAQ. KURDS WILL PAY HEAVY PRICE FROM ALL SIDE.
Please turn off your caps lock, this is very irritating to read. :D
Masonic Lodges started WW 1 and WW 2,…with Banksters. Jews/Zionists got their shitty little Nation after all the death and destruction. Masonic endgame does not Include Jesus or any other Jew rule the world.
Nope…..Masonic Endgame is Their God rules the world, …which means they are using Jews,Zionist,Israel ….as leverage in their Genocide designs.
Means Israel is going to loose Big time in the Future….end of days for them! It’s already penciled in on the Calendar.
Try to write in English next time. You are not clear. It’s a shame that your wonderful ideas will remain only in your head.
It is NOT a civil war.
and the rest of your comment is unworthy of my response.
too bad there’s still people singing to israel’s tune
So, in your opinion, is it forbidden to criticize Iran? And a Kurdish-Shiite war in Iraq is a good thing? How do you manage to bring Israel / Jews into any argument? (A rhetorical question. I know the answer to this one).
Problem is your on the US MSM syrup and should never add any of that to your food. Iran has no control over them as you would think they are attached to the PM office and part of the army. Peshmerga forces were firing a 23mm gun on the site not a good idea, Shi’ite Kurds will fight the Peshmerga again along with other Kurds so it will be more like Iraqi’s fighting Kurd separatists.
“How do you manage to bring Israel / Jews into any argument? (A rhetorical question. I know the answer to this one”
Because Israel / Jews is the only country that wants the destruction of Iran together with Saudia.
“So, in your opinion, is it forbidden to criticize Iran?”
Let me see. Are those who criticize Iran automatically labeled “antisemites”? and tbh, I don’t forbid nothing, it’s just that people singing the israeli tunes will get my critics. Or is that forbidden?
You are the one who gives meaning to what you hear. And it is very easy to understand your way of thinking is .
very true.
and frankly, if it’s easy to understand my way of thinking i cannot complain at all.
He’s a kike Jew troll, what do you expect?
i dunno. i can’t really keep track of all the names around, even if it’s two people using 200 names.
On que,….another conflict breaks out to keep the ME roiled in chaos. PMU are redirected shock army …which should be**…drive West towards Syria in what remains of ISUS Caliphate. SAA taking Omar Oil field in next days ( fingers crossed)…will block Kurds,unless US Airpower shows up vs SAA. Trump’s insane rant about Iran suggests US will use Iran as Pretext to stay on in Iraq and Turd-distan. Iran still has contracts with Boeing pending for several airlines. Why would they eat shit sandwich sanctions and then buy Boeing,…and then Trump Kick them in the balls again?
Masonic/Zionist genocide of humanity. …continues.
yeah, although trump s kicks are getting weaker day after day.
The Peshmerga fired on locals wonder who is going to be responsible in truth, the Iraqi govt controls these PMU not Iran as all they did was supply them with arms. Many forget the US refused to arm any militia units from the Shia’s ,Christians, Yezidis and Turkmen basically any minority group , they were hoping they would be killed and create more racial tension. Sunni Tribesmen also had the same issue with the US seems there won’t be this religious war as anticipated.
Sir I respect your intelligence on these middle eastern situations but I believe you are blind to the elephant in the room= Religious battles /wars have been a constant feature of Islamic belief since day 2.
They’re have been issues with this also in Christian religions and many others. There are no individual religions without these issues.There are always these issues with the minority few in them. There are deeper hatreds and old wounds for Kurds and Turkmen, since the Kurds first came to there Arab Turkmen region of Kirkuk.
FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION KURDSA RE MISTREATING MORE TO SUNNI THEN SHIA . AND IF BARZANI KURDS FORCE TIS WAR THEN DEFENETLY SUNNI WILL SUPPORT THIS PMU TO FIGHT KURDS AND REMOVE THEM FROM THAT LAND EHICH IS OCCUPIED BY BARZANI KURDS.
The PMU is made up of Christians and Sunni as well as Shia. It is Iraqis first Unity Movement and it is forming beautifully for a single united Iraq! Obviously you failed to even watch the last video that goes over all of the formations of militias with the PMU.
Wrong again dumb Jew, PMU is supported by both Sunni and Shias. Both Sunnis and Shias are strongly opposed to Kurdish secessionism and would gladly unite to put an end to their treason.
You kikes are so desperate for some positive news for yourselves you’re now making up facts as you go along. It’s pathetic for you but good news for the rest of us.
BL You are a stupid racist. Allah was cruel to you.
Shut up kike
Nice, cheers.
Peshmerga Kurds had withdrawn from some areas and they have been fighting in Tuz , they have a double hatred for Shia and Turkmen. Possibly why they thought of stirring things up with them, would make sense as this would make a perfect opportunity.
The PMU used to be an uncoordinated rabble, but years of constant fighting have honed their skills (as have the IRGC and probably the Russians too). They’re also getting better and better equipped, with some interesting home-grown gear (putting a 23mm on top of a M113 is a good combination – probably better than a Stryker). The Kurds were once in a position to negotiate with the Syrian and Iraqi governments, but I think they may have left it too late now. Perhaps they’ve been played by the USA. They’re not militarily strong (no tanks) and they know they’ve strayed out of their own territory. I expect greed will be the Kurds’ downfall.
O ya, I remember, its a relig of peace.