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OCTOBER 2024

Hoping To Improve Its Ruined Navy, Kiev Asks For Western Submarines

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Hoping To Improve Its Ruined Navy, Kiev Asks For Western Submarines

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Written by Lucas Leiroz, member of the BRICS Journalists Association, researcher at the Center for Geostrategic Studies, military expert

There really are no limits to the Kiev regime’s incessant military demands. Ukraine is now asking the West to deliver submarines in order to escalate military operations in the Black Sea. In fact, this measure could seriously worsen the conflict, but it would not help Ukrainian forces achieve any useful military results.

The head of the Ukrainian Navy, Admiral Aleksey Neizhpapa, recently stated that Ukraine urgently needs to receive Western submarines to reinforce its military positions in the Black Sea. According to him, only by deploying submarines will it be possible to improve Ukraine’s strategic capabilities and effectively damage Russian forces in the Black Sea.

Neizhpapa does not believe that Ukraine can achieve a military “victory” in the Black Sea without the use of submarines, which is why he calls on Western partners to quickly meet this strategic demand. He emphasizes that large submarines are useless in the region, given the local geographical conditions. However, he believes that small submarines are necessary to make the Ukrainian Navy capable of “spreading” itself across the sea, expanding the field of activity against the naval and coastal positions of the Russian Federation.

“We are thinking about it, submarines are necessary for us, they should be part of the navy (…) Locating only near Odessa means having nothing, we should look further, spread the fleet throughout the Black Sea and use its entire area (…) [Thus, Ukraine may turn] from a coastal state into a maritime power,” he said

It is important to emphasize that Ukraine has virtually no navy anymore. The Ukrainian naval forces have been heavily hit by Russia since 2022, with little useful force left from this branch of the Ukrainian military. Kiev has occasionally managed to cause damage to Russian naval positions in the Black Sea, having already sunk some Russian warships – which has greatly boosted the Western propaganda machine, with American and European newspapers reporting such cases as “great victories”. However, these moves are due to NATO assistance – mainly from American and British drones and satellites – in the Black Sea region. The Ukrainian Navy’s merit in these attacks is minimal, being almost entirely Western operations.

Recently, Russia has been progressively tightening measures in Ukrainian port areas, especially in Odessa. Intelligence data shows that the Kiev regime is using civilian facilities for military purposes, hiding weapons and ammunition in grain depots, as well as transporting weapons on civilian ships. Moscow’s patience with this type of illegal activity has gradually diminished, as there are frequent bombings to prevent the military use of Odessa’s ports.

However, the naval front of the special military operation has always been secondary regarding its strategic aspects. The conflict is being decided by land and air. On the ground, Russian troops are advancing in the New Regions and northern Ukraine. In the air, Russian aircraft and drones are circulating freely, given the collapse of the Ukrainian air defense, thus allowing the destruction of several enemy tanks and military vehicles.

At sea, Russia’s priority is to protect its own coastal regions, preventing terrorist incursions into areas such as Crimea and Krasnodar. Russia could use its naval positions to launch major raids on Odessa, which would significantly advance the results of the special military operation. However, Moscow still has as one of its main goals the achievement of its military objectives through moderate actions, without major civilian casualties – which is why large-scale incursions have been avoided as much as possible.

In parallel, the UK has been the most destabilizing agent in the Black Sea. Not only British military software, but British Navy’s special commandos have also been used on the maritime battlefield by Kiev’s forces. The US has also been playing an incisive role, mainly through technical assistance, providing intelligence and geolocation data to Kiev to plan terrorist attacks. In this sense, as much escalatory and irresponsible the Western move to provide submarines to Ukraine may sound, this possibility should not be ruled out.

Instead of inflicting damage on the Russians and generating a strategic advantage for Ukraine, such a move would only accelerate the destruction of Ukrainian positions in the Black Sea. The Russian response would be carried out through an escalation of military actions on the naval front. So far, Moscow has spared the enemy from its true maritime potential, but this situation could change quickly.

Under the current circumstances, any escalatory measures taken by Ukraine will have a negative impact on the Kiev regime itself. Nothing sounds more dangerous for Ukrainian forces than taking decisions that could test Russia’s patience.

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thewhiterose

the sailors also need a long training, or are these guys included already like with the missile systems. anyway the gloves are off after the beach bombing and we see some real hellfire now in kiev and expect much more

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Cavery

do the ukrainians understand that russia is a great land power. ukraine is really becoming natos verdun. i take it the multipolar world is quietly content to watch nato bleed its self dry in ukraine.

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A.H.

this was the project for europe in 2012. jew-american war ageinst russia on the ukrainian battelfield and in the same time destruction of europe a great oponent for the yankee dying blood dollar.

Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.

“-i am joe biden, president of the united sates and husband of joe biden.”

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Green Mountain Boys

try repeating after me, joe. righty tighty, lefty loosey. now go screw your head back on.

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Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.

i can’t any more. i already stripped the threads and now it just wobbles around like a bobblehead, and don’t you forget: nobody screws with a biden, not even me.

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Overworked

obama said you screw up everything you do, so it all makes sense now.

former Airbus Engineer

the antifascist partisan resistance in romania performed some sabotage operations. will sf report on it pls.

Moshe Dayan

they attacked the azov neonazis? great news 😁

kotromanic

so let me guess they will have their home port in romania or bulgaria while the f16 will have their home airport in romania and poland?

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former Airbus Engineer

tthen those home ports and airports will be destroyed

Crocus Shooting Gallery

russia’s 3rd rate navy wouldn’t last one day against usa-nato…heheheh

Long Jan

which day nazi? u an idiot? ww3 will last just some hours. all nato hubs will tun into radioactive ashes

AM Hants

only france, uk and us have nuclear submarines and the balistic submarines are aged and should be decommissioned. the only thing preventing that, are the delays in the new build submarines. russia has more submarines than the us and most of them are fairly new, as russia is in the middle of a replacement programme.

AM Hants

2) germany, italy, spain, netherlands and austro-hungary have a few diesel electric submarines, that you can hear coming, from miles away. wonder which submarines non-nato ukraine is after?

Overworked

submersible caskets for burials at sea would make more sense. land is getting scarce in ukraine.

AM Hants

remind me, but, russian submarines, all classes are coming off the conveyor belt, are they not? how many new ssbn? how many new ssgn and how many new ssk? not forgetting their special submarines, that come in handy for collecting arctic ground samples, from the arctic bed. what has happened to the un sorting out the dna, in the ground sample that russia provided them with in the early 21st century?

Wallter

how to get even a small sub into the black sea? the montreaux agreement give the oversight to turkiye and they sure have the means to detect even small subs sneaking in, otherwise they are obliged to stop man of war ships entering the bs. otherwise dissembled and transported on the danube in smaller pieces. not likely however and by that time the war will be over and z either swinging from a lamppost or resting in florida!

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kotromanic

we are talking about turks … they sold isis oil on the world market to get rich. and you believe they will follow contracts?

Wallter

sure why not. they’ve applied the convention meticulously so far in the face of the disunited states, netherlands, uk and more. turkey is not interested in having more trouble on its doorstep and in principle is far more favourable towards russia.

AM Hants

especially as turkey is looking at joining brics, which would mean it has to leave nato. now that will be when things get interesting.

jens holm

amerikan navy like lgbt sodomy in submarine

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Антон

“in the navy” song proves it, and not only in submarine. it’s also fair for english navy. from the old times whip, rum and sodomy are 3 pillars of english navy. сorporal punishment was prohibited after the second world war, daily ration of rum was cancelled in 1970s, so…

Антон

previous head of navy in rural reich was general of tank forces before going to navy. neizhpapa has no navy at all, because all ships are sunk. his surname literally mean “don’t eat dad”. no jokes.

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food for barfing

that would be niezhpapa, don’t you think?

Антон

– nie – sounds like polish. i think you have the full right to distort his surname as you wish, because neizhpapa is already bastardized variant ofsouth-russian surname neeshpapa. hohols bastardize everything. koshka (cat) is kishka. kot (tomcat) is kit. but in russian kishka is gut, kit is whale. how to speak like a hohol? take russian words, distort them and you are already speaking like a hohol.

Антон

or take the clown of kiev. he was born as vladimir (vova in short), now he is volodurmar-chih-pyh-ik-puk. i could understand if he transferred vova to shlomo as valeriy kogan who is ariel now to be “more jewish”, though it’s stupid for me and some kind of family treason. so you can name these bastards as you wish, they have no names after changing to such hilarious variants like their idiotic volapuk with gut-cat and whale-tomcat.

Puss & Boots

koshka in ukrainian is kishka probably because ukrainian barbarians never saw a cat they wouldn’t gut for kielbasa. the organ trade’s far more lucrative but old kielbasa habits die hard.

Антон

famous writer bulgakov (born in kiev) wrote one episode about tomcat-whale in his roman “white guards”. it’s about the civil war in russia (1917-1922). kiev was taken by ukrainizators, they forced russian people to use volapuk even in daily life. but the problem was and still is — nobody know this idiotic pseudo-language, because it changes 1 time in every 5 years, so all attempts are failed.

p.s. it’s kolbasa, if you’re talking about a sausage.

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evjensky holmchuk

half usa navy in repair not seaworthy—usa dumbo 14 useless carriers that weaken moron amerikan—now idiot pay 20$ for worm burger to pay for taliban sodomy

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Massa John

shure, and the rest of the strike group too.

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John Kesich

the new lyrics in volodymyr’s cover of “yellow submarine” are truly awful, “you’ll all die in a nato submarine…”

what next? please, uncle joe, just one nuke. pretty please.

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Bomb Kiev

ukraine can get a kick to their behind. not a penny from my taxes should go to this nazi land. we need the money for ourselves.

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corrupt mafia dunghole

if you ask, maybe zelensky will give you a one day out of the decade timeshare at one of his resorts.

corrupt mafia dunghole

and they said they had to overthrow yanukovych because of corruption. he was small potatoes compared to what came after.

Green Mountain Boys

once a clown, always a clown. zelensky’s comedy act never goes stale.

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AM Hants

only problem, it was never funny to begin with.

AM Hants

so what submarines are they after and does ukraine have any submariners, that will be able to use the aged submarines? vanguard class, due to retire, in a few years, but, needed for another decade, owing to delays. or the us ballistic subs, also due to retire, but, needed for another decade, owing to delays with replacements. why is ukraine so demanding, and not even a member of hato?

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IMHO

russia has suffered as much or more naval damage.

over two years and russia has only accomplished a few miles of land and thousands of dead ukes and ruskies.

just as there zionist plan calls for.

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Kamarious

i think the little sodomite junky khazar bastard really wants and should be given is the yellow submarine. i doubt if his navy could handle anything else anyways.

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