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How Big Brother Grips Americans’ Minds to Support Invasions

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Written by Eric Zuesse; Originally appeared on strategic-culture.org

On November 29th, Gallup headlined “Democrats Lead Surge in Belief U.S. Should Be World Leader” and reported that “Three-fourths (75%) of Americans today think the United States has ‘a special responsibility to be the leading nation in world affairs,’ up from 66% in 2010. The surge is driven by Democrats, whose belief in this idea has increased from 61% eight years ago to 81% now.” This finding comes even after the lie-based and catastrophic U.S. invasions of Iraq in 2003, and of Libya in 2011 (and of so many others, such as Afghanistan, where the U.S. and Sauds created the Taliban in 1979). Americans — now even increasingly — want ‘their’ (which is actually America’s billionaires’) Government to be virtually the world’s government, policing the world. They want this nation’s Government to be determining what international laws will be enforced around the world, and to be enforcing them. Most Americans don’t want the United Nations to have power over the U.S. (its billionaires’) Government, but instead want the U.S. Government (its billionaires) to have power over the United Nations (which didn’t authorize any of those evil, lie-based, U.S. invasions).

How Big Brother Grips Americans’ Minds to Support Invasions

Not only would doing this bankrupt all constructive domestic functions (health, education, infrastructure, etc.) of the U.S. federal Government, but it would also increase the global carnage, as if the U.S. Government hasn’t already been doing enough of that, for decades now.

The leadership for this supremacist craving comes straight from America’s top, not from the masses that are being sampled by the Gallup organization, who only reflect it — they are duped by their leaders. Here is how U.S. President Barack Obama (a Nobel Peace Prize winner in 2009, for nothing at all but his ‘kindly’ but insincere verbiage when he had been a candidate) stated this widespread delusional American belief in American global moral supremacy, when addressing the graduating class at West Point Military Academy, on 28 May 2014:

The United States is and remains the one indispensable nation. [Every other nation is therefore ‘dispensable’; we therefore now have “Amerika, Amerika über alles, über alles in der Welt”.] That has been true for the century passed and it will be true for the century to come. … America must always lead on the world stage.

This had certainly not been the objective of U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt when he set up the U.N. just before his death in 1945; he instead wanted the U.N. to evolve into a democratic government of the world, with elected representatives of each and every one of the world’s governments — to evolve into becoming the global international republic — regardless of whether or not the U.S. Government approves or disapproves of another nation’s government. The idea on which the U.N. was founded was not to involve the U.S. Government in the internal affairs of other nations, not to be the judge jury and executioner of other governments that it doesn’t like, nor to dictate what other nations should or should not do within the given nation’s boundaries. FDR intended that there instead be democratically represented, at the U.N., each and every nation, and each and every people within that global government, where each of these national governments is (hopefully but not necessarily) a democracy. FDR was just as opposed to dictatorship internationally, as he was opposed to dictatorship nationally, and he recognized that inevitably some governments will disapprove of other governments, but he was deeply committed to the view that a need exists for laws and law-enforcementbetween nations, on an international level, and not only within the individual nations, and that each nation is sacrosanct on its own internal laws. He respected national sovereignty, and opposed international empire. (This was his basic disagreement with Winston Churchill, then, and with American leaders such as Obama and Trump now.) Unlike President Obama (and evidently unlike the vast majority of today’s Americans) FDR didn’t want this international government to be an American function, but instead an entirely separate international governmental function, in which there is no international dictatorship whatsoever — not American, and not by any other country. He knew that this is the only stable basis for international peace, and for avoiding a world-annihilating World War III.

Barack Obama rejected FDR’s vision, and advocated for the United States as being (and even as if it already had been for a century) virtually the government over the entire world, which “must always lead on the world stage.” Adolf Hitler had had that very same international vision for his own country, Germany, “the Thousand-Year Reich,” but he lost World War II; and, then, when FDR died, Hitler’s vision increasingly took over in America, so that ideologically, FDR actually lost WW II, when Harry S. Truman took over the White House and increasingly thereafter, until today, when the U.S. commits more invasions of foreign countries than do all other nations in the world combined. Americans (apparently, as shown in this and other polls) like this, and want more of it.Nobody else does. For example, nobody (except the U.S. and Saudi and Israeli aristocracies and their supporters worldwide, which are very few people) supports the U.S. regime’s reinstitution of sanctions against Iran, which the U.S. regime is imposing as the global dictator. America’s economic sanctions are like spitting into the face of FDR, who had opposed such imperialistic fascism in the more overtly military form when Hitler’s regime was imposing it. It’s also spitting at the U.N.

This latest Gallup finding displays an increase, but nothing that’s at all anomalous as compared to the decades-long reality of imperialistic U.S. culture. For decades now, Gallup’s polling has shown that the most respected of all institutions by the American people is the nation’s military — more than the church, more than the Presidency, more than the U.S. Supreme Court, more than the press, more than the schools, more than anything. America is invasion-nation. This is true even after the 2003 invasion of Iraq on the basis of blatant lies, which destroyed Iraq — a nation that had never invaded nor even threatened to invade the United States. The American people are, resolutely, bloodthirsty for conquest, even after having been fooled into that evil invasion, and subsequent decades-long military occupation in Iraq, and after subsequent conquests or attempted conquests, in Libya, Syria, Yemen, and elsewhere — all destroying nations that had never invaded nor even threatened America. Why? How did this mass-insanity, of evil, come to be?

How is this aggressive nationalism even possible, in America’s ‘democracy’? It’s actually no democracy at all, and the public are being constantly fooled to think that it is a democracy, and this deception is essential in order for the public to tolerate this Government, and to tolerate the media that lie for it. This widespread deceit requires constant cooperation of the ‘news’-media — and these are the same ‘news’-media that hid from the public, in 2002, that the U.S. Government was outright lying about “WMD in Iraq.”

The public simply do not learn. That’s a tragic fact. Largely, this fact results from reality being hidden by the ‘news’-media; but, even now, long after the fake ‘news’ in 2002, about the U.S. regime’s having possessed secret and conclusive evidence of “Saddam’s WMD,” the published ‘history’ about that invasion still does not acknowledge the public’s having been lied-to at that time, by its Government, and by the ‘news’-media. So, the public live, and culturally swim, in an ongoing river of lies, both as its being ‘news’, and subsequently as its having been ‘history’. This is why the public do not learn: they are being constantly deceived. And they (as Gallup’s polls prove) tolerate being constantly deceived. The public do not rebel against it. They don’t reject either the politicians, or the ‘news’-media. They don’t demand that the American public control the American Government and that America’s billionaires lose that control — especially over the ‘news’-media.

Honesty is no longer an operative American value, if it ever was. That’s how, and why, Big Brother (the operation by the international-corporate billionaires) grips Americans’ minds to support foreign Invasions. Americans support liars, and it all comes from the top; it’s directed from the top. It is bipartisan, from both Democratic Party billionaires and Republican Party billionaires. National politicians will lose their seats if they disobey.

A good example, of this Big-Brother operation, is America’s Politifact, the online site which is at America’s crossover where ‘news’ and ‘history’ meet one-another. It’s controlled by billionaires such as the one who founded Craigslist. Millions of Americans go to Politifact in order to determine what is true and what is false that is being widely published about current events. The present writer sometimes links to their articles, where I have independently verified that there are no misrepresentations in an article. But, like the ‘news’-media that it judges, Politifact is also a propaganda-agency for the (U.S.-Saud-Israeli) Deep State, and so it deceives on the most critically important international matters. An example of this occurred right after the U.S. regime had overthrown in February 2014 in a bloody coup the democratically elected Government of Ukraine, and replaced it by a rabidly anti-Russian racist fascist or nazi Government on Russia’s doorstep, a regime that was selected by the rabidly anti-Russian (but lying that it wasn’t) Obama regime. This Politifact article was dated 31 March 2014, right after over 90% of Crimeans had just voted in a referendum, to rejoin Russia, and to depart from Ukraine, which the Soviet dictator had transferred them to, separating them from Russia, in 1954. (None of that history of the matter was even mentioned by Politifact.) The Politifact article was titled “Viral meme says United States has ‘invaded’ 22 countries in the past 20 years”, and it was designed to deceive readers into believing that “Russia’s recent annexation of Crimea” reflected the real instance of “invasion” that Americans should be outraged against — to deflect away from America’s recent history as being the world’s actual invasion-nation. This propaganda-article said nothing at all about either Crimea or Ukraine except in its opening line: “A Facebook meme argues that Americans are pretty two-faced when it comes to Russia’s recent annexation of Crimea.” It then proceeded to document that the exact number of American invasions during the prior 20 years wasn’t 22, and so Politifact declared the allegation “false” (as if the exact number were really the entire issue or even the main one, and as if America’s scandalous recent history of invasions were not).

So, it’s on account of such drowning-in-propaganda, that the U.S. public not only respect what U.S. President Dwight Eisenhower derogatorily called the “military-industrial complex,” but respect it above even the U.S. Presidency itself, and above all other U.S. institutions (as Gallup’s constant polling demonstrates to be the case).

Here’s the reality: The same group of no more than a thousand super-wealthy Americans control both the United States Government and the weapons-manufacturing firms (such as Lockheed Martin), which are the only corporations whose only customers are the U.S. Government and its chosen allied governments. So, these few people actually control the U.S. Government’s foreign relations, and foreign policies. They create and control their own markets. This is the most politically active group of America’s super-rich, because they own America’s international corporations and because their business as owners of the military ones is military policy and also diplomatic policy, including the conjoining of both of those at the CIA and NSA, including the many coups that they (via their Government) engineer. They also control all of the nation’s major news-media, which report international affairs in such a manner as to determine which foreign governments will be perceived by the mass of Americans to constitute the nation’s ‘enemies’ and therefore to be suitable targets for the U.S. military and CIA to invade and conquer or otherwise “regime-change” — such as have been the lands of North Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran, North Korea, Yemen, Venezuela, etc., at various times. The weapons-manufacturers won’t have any markets, at all, if there are no ‘enemy’ nations that are deemed by the public to be suitable targets for their weapons. ‘Enemy’ nations, and not only ‘allies’ (or ‘allied’ nations), are necessary, in order for the military business to produce the most profits. Overwhelmingly, if not totally, the chosen ‘enemies’ are nations that have never invaded nor even threatened to invade the United States; and, so, in order to keep this Government-funded business (the war-profiteering and associated international natural-resources extractions businesses) growing and thriving, what’s essential is continuing control over the nation’s ‘news’-media. As Walter Lippmann wrote in 1921, “the manufacture of consent” is an essential part of this entire operation. It happens via the media. Even Germany’s Nazis needed to do that. Any modern capitalist dictatorship (otherwise called “fascism”) does. The U.S. regime, being a capitalist dictatorship, certainly does. Physically, Hitler lost, but his ideology won, he won even as nazism (racist fascism) instead of merely as fascism, and this racism is shown because the U.S. regime is rabidly racist anti-Russian (not merely anti-communist), and has been so for at least a century. (Maybe it’s what Obama actually had secretly in mind when he said “That has been true for the century passed and it will be true for the century to come.” And Trump is no less a liar than Obama, and he continues this aim of ultimately conquering Russia.) They say they’re only against Russia’s leader Vladimir Putin, but Putin shows in all polls of Russians, even in non-Russian polls, to be far more favorably viewed by Russians than either Barack Obama or Donald Trump are viewed by Americans. This is why regime-change-in-Russia is increasingly becoming dominated by U.S. economic sanctions and military, and less dominated by CIA and other coup-organizers. The actual dictatorship is in America, and it requires participation by its ‘news’-media. Demonizing ‘the enemy’ is therefore crucial. It is crucial preparation for any invasion.

The United States Government spends at least as much money on its military as do all of the other governments in the world combined. Its ‘news’-media (that is to say, the media that are owned by, and that are advertised in by, the corporations that are controlled by, the same small group of billionaires — America’s billionaires — who fund the political campaigns of both the Democratic Party’s and the Republican Party’s nominees for the U.S. Congress and the Presidency) may be partisan for one or the other of the nation’s two political Parties, but they all are unitedly partisan for the international corporations, such as Lockheed Martin, that America’s billionaires control, and that sell only to the U.S. Government and to the foreign governments that are allied with the U.S. Government. They also are partisan for the U.S.-based oil and gas and mining international corporations, which need to extract at the lowest costs possible, no matter how much the given extractee-nation’s public might suffer from the deal. “Three-fourths (75%) of Americans today think the United States has ‘a special responsibility to be the leading nation in world affairs,’” and the actual beneficiaries of this mass-insanity are the owners of those U.S.-based international corporations, the military and extraction giants.

Anthony Cordesman, at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, headlined on 15 August 2016, “U.S. Wars in Iraq, Syria, Libya and Yemen: What Are The Endstates?” and he said, “Once again, the United States does not seem to be learning from its past. The real test of victory is never tactical success or even ending a war on favorable military terms, it is what comes next.” But he ignored the main reason why these invasions had occurred. America’s weapons-manufacturers won’t have any markets, at all, if there are no ‘enemy’ nations that are deemed by the American public to be suitable targets for their weapons. Cordesman is there calculating success and failure on the basis of the myths (such as that the U.S. Government cares about those “Endstates”), not of the realities (that it craves targets). The realities focus upon the desires of the owners and executives of the weapons-manufacturers and the extraction-firms, for ongoing and increased profits and executive bonuses, and not on the needs of America’s soldiers nor on the national security of the American people. Least of all, do they focus upon the needs — such as the welfare, freedom, or democracy — of the Iraqi people, or of the Syrian people, or of the Libyan people, or of the Yemenite people. It’s all just lies, PR. Those invasions served their actual main functions when they were occurring. “The Endstates” there are almost irrelevant to those real purposes, the purposes for which the invasions were, and are, actually being done.

Here’s an ideal example of this mass mind-control: On 19 November 2017, Josh Rogin at the Washington Post headlined “The U.S. must prepare for Iran’s next move in Syria” and reported that:

A task force of senior former U.S. diplomatic and military officials has come up with suggestions for how Trump could prevent Iran from taking over what’s left of liberated Syria and fulfill his own promise to contain Iranian influence in the region.

“Most urgently… the United States must impose real obstacles to Tehran’s pursuit of total victory by the Assad regime in Syria,” the report by the Jewish Institute for National Security of America states. “Time is of the essence.”

The underlying presumption there was that the U.S. regime has legitimate authorization to be occupying the parts of Syria it has invaded and now occupies, and that Iran does not. But the reality is that the U.S. regime is occupying Syria instead of assisting Syria’s Government to defeat the U.S.-Saud-Israeli invasion to overthrow and replace Syria’s Government, by stooges who will be selected by the Saud family who own Saudi Arabia, and the reality is that Iran’s forces there are invitees who are instead assisting Syria’s Government against the Saudi-Israeli-American invasion. In other words: this WP article is basically all lies. Furthermore, the Jewish Institute for National Security of America is a front-organization for the fascist regime that rules Israel, and the WP hid that fact, too, so its cited ‘expert’ was a mere PR agency for Israel’s aristocracy. So, this is Deep-State propaganda, parading as ‘news’.

Americans actually pay their private good money to subscribe to (subsidize) such bad public ‘news’papers as that. The billionaire who happens to own that particular ‘news’paper (the WP), Jeff Bezos, had founded and leads Amazon, which receives almost all of its profits from Amazon Web Services (AWS), the cloud-computing division, which supplies the U.S. ‘Defense’ Department, CIA, and NSA. For example, “without AWS and Prime, Amazon lost $2 billion in the 1st quarter of FY18. … These losses come from Amazon’s retail business. About 60% of Amazon’s revenue comes from retail and that’s where Amazon is losing money.” Amazon is profitable because of what it sells mainly to the Government, but also to other large U.S. international corporations, and they all want to conquer Syria. None opposes that evil goal. Although Bezos doesn’t like the Sauds, he has actually been (at least until the Khashoggi matter) one of their main U.S. media champions for the Sauds to take over Syria. It’s all just a fool-the-public game. It works, it succeeds, and that’s what Gallup’s polls are demonstrating. The public never learns. It’s a fact, which has been proven in many different ways.

This reality extends also to other nations, allies of the U.S. aristocracy, and not only to the U.S. regime itself. For example, on 27 November 2018, a whistleblowing former UK Ambassador, Craig Murray, who is a personal friend of Julian Assange, headlined“Assange Never Met Manafort. Luke Harding and the Guardian Publish Still More Blatant MI6 Lies”, and he proved that Britain’s Guardian had lied with total, and totally undocumented (and probably even totally non-credible), fabrications, alleging that Julian Assange of WikiLeaks had secretly met (in 2013, 2015, and 2016) with Paul Manafort of the Trump campaign. The UK, of course, is a vassal-nation of the U.S. aristocracy, and the Guardian is run by Democratic Party propagandists (paid indirectly by Democratic Party and conservative Tony-Blair-wing Labour Party billionaires) and therefore fabricates in order to assist those Parties’ efforts to impeach Trump and to dislodge Jeremy Corbyn from the Labour Party’s leadership. However, each of America’s two political parties (like the UK’s aristocracy itself) represents America’s aristocracy, which, like Britain’s aristocracy, is united in its determination to eliminate Assange — they are as determined to do that to him, just as Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman al-Saud was determined to eliminate Jamal Khashoggi. ‘Democracy’? This? It is Big Brother.

Only if the population boycott lying individuals and organizations, is democracy even possible to exist in a nation. Democracy can’t possibly exist more than truth does. In political matters, deceit is always treachery; and its practitioners, whenever the evidence for it is overwhelming and irrefutable, should experience whatever the standard penalty is for treachery. Only in a land such as that, can democracy possibly exist. Elsewhere, it simply can’t. The only basis for democracy, is truth. Deceit is for dictators, not for democrats. And deceit reigns, in the U.S. and in its allied countries. Is this really tolerable? Americans, at least, tolerate it.

When Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, the far-right Rupert Murdoch’s Wall Street Journal editorialized against Obama on 10 October 2009, by saying that “What this suggests to us — and to the Norwegians — is the end of what has been called ‘American exceptionalism’.” Little did anyone then know that after winning re-election upon the basis of such war-mongering lies from Obama, as that “America remains the one indispensable nation”, Obama in February 2014 would go so far as to perpetrate a bloody coup overthrowing the democratically elected Government of one “dispensable” nation, Ukraine; and, then, on 28 May of 2014, Obama would be telling America’s future generals, that “The United States is and remains the one indispensable nation” and that Obama would, in that speech, explicitly malign Ukraine’s neighbor Russia. He did it, in this speech, which implicitly called all nations except the U.S. “dispensable.” He had carefully planned and orchestrated Americans’ hostility toward Russia. His successor, Trump, lied saying that he wanted to reverse Obama’s policies on this, and Trump promptly, once becoming elected, increased and expanded those policies. Whatever a deceitfully war-mongering country like this might be, it’s certainly no democracy. Because democracy cannot be built upon a ceaseless string of lies.

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You can call me Al

Nothing surprises me with them (and their bosses), but I am hesitant to believe the article is real BECAUSE in 2016, Trump was elected on a basis that is opposite to above; maybe the anti-Russia BS has turned the tide, but I do not believe it.

SO I call this articular OPTIMISTIC at best, MANIPULATION or at worst FAKE.

PS Look a little into the author, just type his name into the search engine; gee, who would have guessed !!?.

Monte George Jr

I followed your suggestion and typed the author’s name into google search engine. I found nothing I thought was alarming, or damaging to the man’s credibility. Could you be more specific about what you found that you were concerned about??

You can call me Al

No I cannot now, yesterday I found an article on him that I just cannot find now. Apologies, but I shall keep looking for it.

Spit

Manipulation and fake, I to see it. The deep state and the Muslim brotherhood losing its grip is all to politically incorrect. and thats what people are beginning to see. Perhaps on a borring Monday, one day You can see my face. on day. We are headed towards a revival of Dignity pride and a return to Christianity. One day we will all realize what Holidays actually mean. What the reason is. one day we will all return to normality or death.

Sinbad2

Did people vote for Trump, or against Clinton? When people believe they have only 2 choices they will naturally vote for what they perceive to be the lesser of the 2 evils.

You can call me Al

It is a good point, as a Brit, I wanted him to succeed by stopping the wars and pulling the troops back – as he promised.

Garga

That was exactly my hope too. Despite all the jibber-jabber he used to spout about my country, in the match against Hillary (he was and is far from ideal choice, but it was him against her), I wanted him to win for 2 reasons, :

1- So Killary doesn’t win, I thought anybody is ought to be better than that witch. 2- Trump’s campaign promises to end conflict, focus on rebuilding the US and reduce it’s military presence everywhere. I thought if he does even 1 fifth of those, it’ll have a very positive result.

Everybody got conned and all he did and does are dictated to him by Israel, Saudis and large corporations. I doubt if Clinton won the world was in a better or worse state. She probably wouldn’t pull out of Paris accord or JCPOA, but I’m sure she’d find other excuses to ruin the world and perhaps right now there was an Iran war, instead of Yemen.

Rеinеr Tоrheit

Lying sack of sh*t

You can call me Al

Me ?…..if so GFY.

Garga

The author is a Jew, if that’s what you mean Al?

I find this article helpful. The author pays attention to the real cause of the US’ policies which is determined by it’s wealthy not it’s puppet politicians. We all spend time hating this leader or that, Trump, Obama, May or Blair, but they’re not really the decision makers, are they?

And Trump lied through his teeth in campaigns, plain and simple and made Americans (and non-American) fantasize about a rainbow and unicorn-fart-ridden world where the US government is sane and it’s policies will be to benefit the American people, not just the wealthy. He lied about a lot of things and later made U-turns and did the opposite.

You can call me Al

Yes he is, but as stated above, for the life of me, I cannot again find the article I read yesterday; there was an extra link to being Jewish… I’ll get it, when I am not thinking about it. Apologies.

Spit

There was a Rich man a king and a Priest.

The Rich man told YOU, Kill the King and the Priest, all of the money in the world will be Yours. The King told YOU to kill the rich man and the Priest with Promises of power. The Priest told YOU to kill the rich man and the kind with his Honest word that You will become a Saint. But You said no. They are worthless without You.

Sinbad2

Since WWII no American president has been reelected, without killing a lot of people. The simple fact is the American people like killing people via remote control, from the safety of their homes.

Tommy Jensen

Play-station culture or deep rooted culture since Sitting Bull? Whatever it is, the result s the same.

They have theirs, and we have our counter-punch! http://ihr.org/sites/default/files/RevisedBillboardResized.jpg

TomWonacott

An example of this occurred right after the U.S. regime had overthrown in February 2014 in a bloody coup the democratically elected Government of Ukraine, and replaced it by a rabidly anti-Russian racist fascist or nazi Government on Russia’s doorstep, a regime that was selected by the rabidly anti-Russian (but lying that it wasn’t) Obama regime.

I’m not quite sure how you counter what you call propaganda and lies from the MSM – with (RT) propaganda and lies about the overthrow of the Yanukovych government in Ukraine. It’s fairly typical RT propaganda to just ignore a long history of Russian domination over Ukrainian affairs beginning with the end of Ukrainian independence at the hands of the Russia Bolsheviks during the times of WWI.

Just ignore the Holodomor which the Viktor Yushchenko government in 2006 recognized as attempted genocide directed by Stalin at ethnic Ukrainians. Four million Ukrainians died in 1932-33. Ignore that 100,000(+) Ukrainians suspected of fighting the USSR in WWII were deported to Siberia in 1947. Ignore that Yanukovych promised closer ties to the EU in 2010, conducted a year long negotiation with the EU and after everything was ready to sign suddenly under pressure from Putin reneged and signed with Russia. Ignore that Ukrainians were hurting economically and the Ukrainian economy was contracting in late 2013. Ignore that this is what brought thousands of protesters into the streets in November, 2013. Ignore that it was the fascist Berkut police sent by the Yanukovych government on November 30, 2013 which initiated the violence bringing hundreds of thousands of protesters into the streets to protest the decision by Yanukovych. All of this is ignored in favor of the neo-Nazi narrative promoted by the state-owned journalists in Russia.

It is so typical of the “alternate” media to throw Ukrainian sovereignty under the bus like Ukraine belongs to Russia. How many anti-democracy alternate media commentators have called Ukraine in the Russian “sphere of influence”? Mearsheimer in a sellout to democratic values and sovereignty writes in Foreign Affairs (https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/russia-fsu/2014-08-18/why-ukraine-crisis-west-s-fault?cid=soc-tw-rdr via @ForeignAffairs):

One also hears the claim that Ukraine has the right to determine whom it wants to ally with and the Russians have no right to prevent Kiev from joining the West. This is a dangerous way for Ukraine to think about its foreign policy choices. The sad truth is that might often makes right when great-power politics are at play. Abstract rights such as self-determination are largely meaningless when powerful states get into brawls with weaker states

Can the alternate media define “sovereign” and why Ukraine should give up theirs because their neighbor is more powerful militarily?

Did you even once mention the brutal crackdown on the mostly peaceful demonstrators in Syria (or Libya) by Assad? Do their rights matter? Your whole article is nothing but alternate media propaganda so why do you believe the alternate media offers any better choices for the truth? Because your truth – like the MSM – is couched in a political agenda. As Winston Churchill said, “History is written by the victors”. So please, don’t pretend you have a monopoly on the absolute truth.

Monte George Jr

I see no problem with the passage you object to, except that the Ukranian govt. is not primarily controlled by Nazis, but rather by Jewish oligarchs. The coup was implemented (violently!) by Nazis, that much is true, and they still terrorize citizens throughout Ukraine. But the planning, organization, financing, cheer-leading and recruitment of the Maidan snipers and subsequent staffing of the coup govt. was done by US/Nato operatives (John McCain, V. Nuland, J. Pyatt, Joe Biden, etc.). The remainder of your comment is exactly the kind of propaganda you claim to object to.

1. The Holomodor was perpetrated by Jewish Bolsheviks against all non-Jews within their grasp. The Russian people suffered as much or more than the Ukies under the Bolshevik reign. Stalin made great strides in rectifying that problem after WWII, by conducting a massive purge of Bolsheviks and sending them to the very same Gulags which they themselves had created beginning in 1919.

2. Russian influence in Ukraine results from the predominance of Russian speaking people in Ukraine. Many ethnic Russians live there and almost everyone in Ukraine speaks Russian. Russia language is so pervasive there that the coup govt. felt it necessary to sponsor a bill to outlaw the common practice of delivering speeches in Russian on the floor of the Rada.

3. Yanukovich was elected by a majority of Ukrainian citizens. 4. 100,000 Ukrainians sent to the Gulags? 100,000 is about the number of innocent civilians slaughtered by the Ukrainian Nazis (e.g., OUN-B) serving in Hitler’s Waffen SS during WWII. Also, Research Eisenhower’s holocaust of German prisoners at war’s end, and compare!

5. Yanukovich did not abandon his plans to join the EU economic theater. He merely refused to do so EXCLUSIVELY, as required by the deal the EU was offering – this deal would have prohibited Ukraine joining the Russian customs union (Russia was fine with Ukraine joining both.) He DELAYED signing the EU contract, negotiating for and insisting on a more reasonable agreement. 6. Sovereign rights to “ally” with whomever? Compare Russia’s kid glove treatment of the implacably hostile Ukraine to the USA’s treatment of Cuba. Or Venezuela or anywhere else in South America. 7. Your view of events in Syria are similarly misinformed, but it’s getting late and perhaps you should assume the burden of getting familiar with the real history of that conflict on your own.

To answer your question: YES, the alt. media is indispensable to understanding world events today. Discretion is required of course, and this requires a lot of effort; that’s why not many people attempt it. When I went to school all we had was I.F. Stone’s weekly and Ramparts (and MAD magazine!). Today we have a whole universe of alternative voices at our fingertips. So, stop complaining, do some research and count your blessings.

TomWonacott

But the planning, organization, financing, cheer-leading and recruitment of the Maidan snipers and subsequent staffing of the coup govt. was done by US/Nato operatives (John McCain, V. Nuland, J. Pyatt, Joe Biden, etc.).

Right. You have zero proof of that – especially that NATO had anything to do with the Maidan snipers (or that the snipers had anything to do with the Maidan leafership). There is no definitive proof that the snipers were associated in any way with Maidan.

1-2. Give up on the Jewish Bolsheviks, OK. No one believes that bullshit. Regarding the Holodomor, ethnic Ukrainians suffered about 80% of the losses (out of about 4 million). Under Stalin policies, there was confiscation of private land, forced collectivization, deportation of “troublemakers” to Siberia, starvation because of forced export of grain – all finalized by russification of Ukraine after the Holodomor. Finally, the Russian government attempted to cover-up/conceal the massive deaths due to famine. 3. True 4. After Ukrainian independence was lost after WWI (To the USSR) and the massive deaths associated with the Holodomor, who can blame (some) Ukrainians for fighting for Nazi Germany to regain their independence – like Bandera? 5. Regardless that is what started the protests. Considering the contracting Ukraine economy in 2013 and the rise of the standard of living of the Polish after joining the EU, ethnic Ukrainians looked toward a better economic future with the EU. This was something promised by Yanukovych in 2010. He reneged on the promise in 2013. 6. There certainly is some truth to that, but it shows the problems with the cold war (and real politik) concept of “sphere of influence”. Whether in Eastern Europe or Central and South America, there has been considerable pushback from countries formerly under the dominance of the USSR and the US.

Thanks.

Monte George Jr

“You have zero proof of that”. Not exactly zero. E.g., the intercepted conversations between Nuland and Pyatt discussing a) their plans for “wrapping this thing up” and staffing the coup govt. and b) nervously discussing the public revelation that the ammo used against Berkut and protestors/rioters was identical, Nuland’s public remarks about spending $5 Billion “bringing Democracy to Ukraine” (didn’t they already have that?) and the interview of 2 admitted snipers reported in the Italian press. These offer more compelling evidence than anything I’ve seen to the contrary.

1-2. “No one believes that bullshit” (re: Jewish Bolsheviks). Wrong. E.g.:

“You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the “Russian Revolution.” It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators.” – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (1918-2008), Nobel-Prize-winning novelist, historian and victim of Jewish Bolshevism (Marxism).

It was not just Ukrainians who suffered from the Bolshevik reign of terror.

4. “After … independence was lost … and … the Holodomor, who can blame (some) Ukrainians for fighting for Nazi Germany to regain their independence?” Not me. But is it OK to blame them for implementing the Nazi death/labor camps and massive extermination of civilians?

5. The citizens who came to the Maidan to support EU involvement were content to protest peacefully and eat Vicky’s cookies. The did not set up barricades, burn tires, set the streets on fire, assault Party of Regions politicians and ethnic Russians on the streets or engage in gun battles. They did not storm the govt. buildings and station armed thugs inside the Rada. This was done by provocateurs – Svoboda, Right Sector, The Hundreds, various and sundry other Nazi’s and hired thugs, coordinated and financed by the usual suspects.

TomWonacott

Jewish Bolshevism, also Judeo–Bolshevism, is an anti-communist and antisemitic canard, which alleges that the Jews were the originators of the Russian Revolution in 1917 and that they held the primary power among the Bolsheviks. Similarly, the conspiracy theory of Jewish Communism implies that Jews have dominated the Communist movements in the world, and is related to The Zionist Occupation Government conspiracy theory (ZOG), which asserts that Jews control world politics.[1] – Wikipedia

The Georgia snipers (from the Italian press) is bebunked (BBC: “Analysis: Doubts cast on Italian sniper claims about Ukraine’s Maidan”) – and the doctor who made the remarks about the bullets denies that today. But (just for the fun of it) lets just say the snipers were a part of the Maidan revolution, there is nothing tying them to the Maidan leadership or the CIA. In other words, it could have just been a rogue element within the Right sector or Svaboda.

But is it OK to blame them for implementing the Nazi death/labor camps and massive extermination of civilians?

Absolutely. They should be condemned in the strongest possible words. However, from the Ukrainian point of view, they were fighting the Russians for Ukrainian independence.

Again, it was the Berkut police which initiated the violence – and the Yanukovych government was behind much of the violence. Most of the defense of the protesters were taken up by the Right Sector, Svoboda etc., but the great majority of the protesters were peaceful in the face of the government crackdowns. By the way, the neo-Nazis faired rather poorly in the Ukraine elections in 2014 – worse than their counterparts in other European countires.

Thanks.

Monte George Jr

“It was the Berkut police which initiated the violence” Wrong again. Yanukovich sent the Berkut ito the street without firearms, presumably to preclude any western propaganda about them shooting “innocent protestors”. I saw videos of Berkut officers armed only with … wait for it … Fire extinguishers, being repeatedly set on fire by thugs with Molotov cocktails. As soon as the burning officers were ‘extinguished’ they were set on fire again. And again, and again. My only complaint with Yanukovich is that none of those thugs were shot. It was neither Berkut nor the peaceful protestors (long gone by this time), who erected barricades in the streets, set tires ablaze and turned the streets of Kiev into a sea of fire and lawlessness.

“…it [snipers] could have just been a rogue element within the Right sector or Svaboda.” Or, it could have been polite green Russians. To solve this, or any other history mystery, simply ask “who Benefits” – whose agenda is being favored by this action and who has the resources to support it and get away with it?

“Jewish Bolshevism, … is an anti-communist and antisemitic canard…” “Similarly, the conspiracy theory of Jewish Communism implies…” When you have to resort to using labels like ‘antisemitism’ and ‘conspiracy theory’ to support your point of view, you have run out of legitimate arguments and no further reasonable discourse is possible. We’ll have to agree to disagree on this particular point.

TomWonacott

According to the Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-maidan-revolution-anniversary-protests-kiev-russia-eu-a8640111.html):

At the start, Madian was a marginal protest, attended by committed political activists who wanted Viktor Yanukovych’s administration to sign an association agreement with the European Union. The protest became a mass movement when riot police incomprehensibly turned their truncheons on the small camp of mostly students (30 November–1 December)………“It looked hopeless, and there were only about three dozen of us on the square on that first week,” he says. “But then, right as we were sleeping, the police attacked us, and the rest is history.”

The violence was initiated by the Yanukovych government. The numbers of protesters swelled after that in response to the government ordered crack down. In fact, despite the violence from both sides as the protests proceeded, common Ukrainian peaceful activists associated with the Maidan revolution were always present. You simply cannot delegitimize the legitimate protests by implying that this was a neo-Nazi coup (of course working with the CIA). That is simply RT propaganda.

You used the terms, “Jewish Bolsheviks”. I just googled it. Jews were certainly a part of the Bolshevik Revolution from 1917-1921, but they hardly underpinned the movement. In fact, as time went on, fewer Jews were in the leadership – especially by the time of the Holodomor.

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