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The Armenian-Azerbaijani war in the Nagorno-Karabakh region does not show signs of nearing its end despite the humanitarian ceasefire launched in the region. The ceasefire started in the Nagorno-Karabakh region at 12:00 local time on October 10. The ceasefire deal was reached by the Azerbaijani and Armenian sides following long talks in Moscow a day ago. Russia played a key role in forcing the sides to make steps towards the de-escalation.
Azerbaijan and Armenia also formally agreed to begin substantive negotiations of a peaceful settlement of a military conflict over the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh that erupted on September 27. These talks will be mediated by the Organization for Security and co-operation in Europe’s Minsk Group of international negotiators. Following the ceasefire agreement, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said that the first phase of the military operation in the Nagorno-Karabakh region is completed. The Russian diplomatic intervention allowed to put an end to the hottest phase of the military confrontation and force the sides to halt active offensive operations on the ground.
Despite this, the situation on the ground remained very tense. Almost immediately after the start of the ceasefire regime, the sides simultaneously accused each other of violating the ceasefire and of shelling civilian and military targets, and repeated these claims on October 11 and October 12.
Meanwhile, Armenia and Azerbaijan released a new batch of fresh and few days old footage showcasing casualties of each other and making loud statements. In particular, pro-Azerbaijani sources claimed that at least two more S-300 systems of Armenia were destroyed in Karabakh. The released videos accompanying these claims include the moments of the alleged destruction of 35D6 (ST-68U) radars and a S-300 missile launcher of the Armenian military with Israeli IAI Harop loitering munitions near the village of Khojaly in the Khojaly District and the village of Qubadlı in the Kashatagh District.
The 35D6 is a vehicle-carried three-dimensional air surveillance radar system. The range of the radar’s primary functions includes the detection of low-flying targets protected with active and or passive jamming screens, and also the performance of air traffic control. It can be operated as a separate installation as well as a part of the S-300 air-defense system. Nonetheless, if it was the S-300 batteries, as Azerbaijani sources insist, it still remains unclear what these long-range air defense systems were doing so close to the frontline.
Meanwhile, the Armenian military reported that its forces repelled large Azerbaijani attacks in the northeastern and southern parts of the region. The hottest area of the frontline is the town of Hardut. Azerbaijani President Aliyev officially announced that his forces captured it a few days ago. Nonetheless, videos from the ground show that in fact most of the town remained in the hands of the Armenians. Another part of it is now a gray zone, which is not controlled by any side. According to Armenian sources, Azerbaijani troops, supported by Turkish special forces and Syrian militants, tried to capture the town just a few hours before the start of the ceasefire. After this failed attack, Azerbaijani combat drones and artillery units delivered powerful strikes on Hardut and nearby villages, but were not able to force Armenian troops to retreat.
The Armenian Defense Ministry insists that the Turkish Air Force is leading the aerial operations of Azerbaijan. “Turkish aerial command centers, flying within the Turkish airspace, are commanding the Turkish UAV’s operating in the Azerbaijani air force. UAVs, accompanied by six F-16 units, are directly attacking the peaceful population and civilian infrastructure of Artsakh,” the defense ministry spokesman said.
In its own turn, the Azerbaijani side says that it’s just taking the necessary steps to respond to Armenian violations of the ceasefire and strikes on Azerbaijani settlements. The most widely covered incident of this kind took place on October 11, when an alleged Armenian ballistic missile hit Ganja city.
The active offensive phase of the Armenian-Azerbaijani war was put on pause, but the conflict itself does not seem to be nearing its end. Without the real political will of the Azerbaijani and Armenian leadership to reach a ceasefire, the de-escalation of the conflict, without direct intervention of some third party, remains unlikely. Instead, the war has chances to resume with new power in the coming days.
Most important words: “claim” and “if”….
Russia “claims” brilliant diplomatic victory in cheasefire negotiations, only”if” Erdogan wants.
Possibly, I agree :)
The Turkish dream: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/32e55eb03ce57c44b213864778f8d0845f5eff457054e73f07c6896ee2268dc1.png
The Armenians have not forgotten how blood thirsty the Turks can be, neither have the Assyrians. And because neither has forgotten they will fight to defend their people and their lands.
Question: Have the Greeks forgotten? I ask because your constant criticisms of Putin and Russia, that is supporting the Armenians, suggests maybe you have.
What do you propose ? That Armenians crucify Turkish women like that ? BTW the above photo, if real, screams of Talmudic ritual murder, look into the Dönmes .
Turks = Khazarians = Jews
Not all Turks are Khazars thats impossible.
But all Khazarians are.
Touche sir, touche.
Or, Christians.
Neither Putin nor the Russians are supporting the Armenians.
Putin and the Jewish-ruled Russians are only interested in preserving that narrow sliver of southern Armenia to preclude the Turks from adjoining Azerbaijan.
The Russians don’t care about what is right or Armenians’ suffering.
The Russians allied themselves with the Turks in 1917 and created Turkey while enabling the genocide of the Armenians and the Greeks and the Assyrians.
Russians are a soulless dishonorable bunch.
Putin and the Russians make me sick.
“Neither Putin nor the Russians are supporting the Armenians”?
Not true my Greek friend, allow me translate part of this report:
http://infosarm.ru/archives/80321
“On the night of September 26-27, the An-124 military transport plane arrived in Yerevan from Rostov-on-Don Platov Airport [located in the Rostov Oblast, Russia]. Six hours later, the active confrontation between the two countries began. A few hours later, another military plane headed to Yerevan from Roni Rostov.”
In fact, Russia has been sending so many military cargo planes, loaded with weapons and munitions, to Armenia that Aliyev, Azerbaijan’s dictator, called Putin to complain about them.
Please tell us, how many shipments of arms have the Greeks sent in support of their Armenian brothers and sisters in Christ?
“The Russians allied themselves with the Turks”?
Poppycock, the Russians have fought twelve wars against the Turks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Russo-Turkish_wars
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Greece in a military alliance with Turkey… called NATO?
And regarding the “Jewish-ruled”, how many joint military exercises has Greece held with their ally Israel? FYI: Russia has never held a single one with Israel.
As for “only interested in preserving that narrow sliver”.
Tell us, what legal justification would Russia have for enter this war at this time? Given, no nation recognizes the sovereignty of the Republic of Artsakh, not even Armenia.
But make no mistake about it, if the Turks are foolish enough to invade Armenia, where Russia already has forces stationed, NATO or not, Russia will be fighting a thirteenth war.
The battle for Artsakh is the Armenians’ battle, and theirs alone.
Մահ չիմացեալ մահ է, Մահ իմացեալ՝ անմահություն. Death is unknowable death, Death known is immortality.
I am not here to defend Greek policies. I distinguish between the historic Greek people and their current government and the population that supports the government’s policies. Suffice to say, we conceded our honor and our money to the Jewish scum of Goldman Sachs and assorted Freemasonic interests. And we sold our country to the Germans we fought in WWII. I am not proud of any of that.
But it is a fact that the same Jewish Bolsheviks (representing/ruling Russia) collaborated with the Turks shortly after WWI, giving the Turks arms, ammunition, gold, and supplies without which the Turks could not have defeated the Greek army in Anatolia. https://allinnet.info/history/russian-assistance-to-turkey-in-1920-1922/
Armenia is being prevented from recognizing Artsakh by Russia.
You know this.
Your focus is far too narrow. You have to step back, way back, and see the world as it was a hundred years ago and as the world is today, a hundred years later.
Simply put, a hundred years ago, the German, Austro-Hungarian and Ottoman empires are all gone, along with Czarist Russia. The Great War was over, and so too with these events, bring to a close the nineteenth century. We now enter the twentieth century, and as the war’s victors divvy up the spoils of that war what are the “Jewish Bolsheviks” now in power in Moscow suppose to do, let them have Anatolia too? And then the South Caucasus, then the North Caucasus, and then?
And today, a hundred years later, Russia is supposed to spill her sons’ blood defending Armenia’s interest in Nagorno-Karabakh? Why, so the Armenians can safely continue their economic and military flirtations with Russia’s adversary in the West?
Tell me you’re not that naive.
The west is Satan, but Russia is currently still an antichrist. The Russians keep trying to play both sides, because their rivalry with the western Judeo-Anglo atlanticist American led empire is not really one of conflicting ideology, but of power. The Russians go to help Syria, but they completely control the war and prevent the Syrians from doing what needs to be done, especially regarding the zionist entity that Russia still has love affair with. With Armenia, Arman is completely right. They are the only thing stopping Armenia from recognizing Artsakh. Russia has its own nefarious intentions, just like the west.
Agreed, the Russians are trying (and maybe this is not possible) to maintain good relations with both Armenia and Azerbaijan. And yes, if you call Russia for help Russia is going to insist on complete control. If this is not acceptable I would suggest not calling. And yes, Russia is going to want to limit the war as much as possible. Nobody in their right-mind would want to start a third world war.
“And yes, if you call Russia for help Russia is going to insist on complete control. If this is not acceptable I would suggest not calling.”
Which makes Russia self-interested and evil, and not heroic saviors, which is my point. This is not a conversation of “what do we expect someone to do?”, it is of who’s right and who’s wrong, who is good, and who is not.
“Russia is going to want to limit the war as much as possible. Nobody in their right-mind would want to start a third world war.”
You do limit war by continuing to indefinitely postpone it and preventing the side who is right from realizing all of its goals and conclusively ending the war by complete defeat of the other side.
A third world war cannot take place without Russia willing involving itself in it, so limiting this war is completely irrelevant to whether a third world war takes place or not. Russia has the option to allow Armenia to recognize Artsakh, they choose not to. They have the option not to intervene, but they choose to, which would be fine if they chose to intervene on Armenia’s side, but they haven’t and are trying to play both sides as usual.
Not to be disrespectful, but thinking geopolitics is ever about “who’s right and who’s wrong, who is good, and who is not” is, well, naive.
Geopolitics is always about interests. If Russia, or anyone else, comes to Armenia’s aid in this conflict it is because it is in their interest to do so.
FYI: Armenian media is already reporting Russian material support.
http://infosarm.ru/archives/80321
another false equivalence
So the Jewish Bolsheviks and the Russians (Putin says Scratch a Russian and you’ll find a Turk underneath) gave Anatolia to their Donmeh Jewish Feeemasonic Turkish brothers instead of the Christian Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians?
Jew, Russian,
You don’t have to die for Artsakh, you don’t have to do anything for Armenians. Just keep giving S-400s and building nuclear power plants for the Turks who genocided the first Christian nation of the world, and who are trying to do it again.
Jew, Russian,
Keep selling your know how and your honor for American dollars thence prop up your supposed sworn enemy’s main weapon and tool for dominance, the petrodollar.
But I will call you to carpet on your perfidy and hypocrisy.
Did I say Jews and Russians are stupid?
I think I did.
Again, you seem to be totally oblivious as to the Machiavellian nature of geopolitics.
But to answer your question, no, Anatolia was not Moscow’s to give.
By helping the Turks — going so far as threatening the British to go to war against them on the side of the Turks — that’s exactly what you did.
Bolsheviks are from Manhattan, they’re not Russian. Financed by Schiff, and others they were sent to Russia to do exactly what they did. They were not able to complete the task, and were forced to flee Russia. Running straight to Manhattan. The Zionist Khazar criminal Banking Cabal hates Russia’s guts, you idiot. These pretend Jews want Russia, and Russians destroyed. In addition the statements made to Jacob Rothschilds face by President Putin during a rather heated discussion ont the topic of the Globalist New World Order, Putin’s thoughts on the subject, and his refusal to have any part in this, and UN Agenda 21/2030, in fact Putin’s stated decision to remove Russia, and himself from association, and intention to resist the advance of the Globalist agenda’s. Which is exactly what Russia is doing. Disgraceful idiot troll.
The chief rabbi of Russia, Berel Lazar, is Putin’s mentor and great friend. Putin’s affiliation with the Zionist mafia of Chabad is well documented.
Even though Jewish Bolsheviks raped, tortured, killed, and oppressed Russians by the millions, Russians are still in love with the Christ killers. The so-called Russian oligarchs are Zionists and so is Putin. Putin’s Jewish Russian oligarch buddy Roman Abramovich is Israel’s richest man: https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-is-putin-s-pet-oligarch-abramovich-worthy-of-israeli-citizenship-1.6136441
Roman Abramovich stated in an interview in 2005 that Putin could obtain Israeli citizenship upon his request because Putin is a Jew: http://aanirfan.blogspot.com.tr/2018/02/trump-putin-kosher-nostra.html?m=1
http://redefininggod.com/trump-and-putin-agents-of-chabad-lubavitch/
To put it in the mildest of terms, Putin is not a good man nor a great strategist who has Russia’s best interests at the top of his priorities.
Here’s a partial list of things explaining why Putin is part of the problem and not part of the solution:
1. Putin never stopped selling Russian oil for American dollars thus aiding and abetting Russia’s sworn enemy, the American Military Industrial Complex (MIC). 2. Putin never nationalized the City of London-controlled Russian central bank and never took control of the Ruble away from Anglo-Zionist bankers. 3. Putin never stopped BACKING thereby subsidizing the petrodollar with Russian oil. 4. Putin enabled NATO to kill Gaddafi. 5. Putin sells Russian gas and oil for Euros (which are just a different name for the American dollar issued by the same Zio bankers that own the Fed) to the European Union who commit acts of war by passing sanctions against Russia along with the Americans. 6. Putin never demanded that the Americans leave Syria. 7. Putin never declared Syria’s airspace closed to America. 8. Putin never helped the Russians in Eastern Ukraine establish secure borders and independence from the NATO-imposed criminal regime in Kiev. 9. Putin sold highest-level-military-technology S-400s to NATO via Turkey thereby directly impairing Russian national security. 10. Putin sold S-400s to Saudi Arabia who are wahhabi muslim terrorists bent on the extermination of Putin’s allies the Alawite/Christian Syrians and Shiite Persians. 11. Putin collaborates with the Turks who are proud to have ambushed and shot down Russian jets and killed Russian pilots. Turkish President Erdogan wowed to shoot down Russians again. 12. Putin opened Syrian airspace to the Turks so that they could bomb and exterminate the Kurds of Afrin in Northern Syria, just like the Turks did to the first Christian nation of the world, the Armenians. 13. Putin again opened the airspace in Idlib to the Turks who used drones, guided missiles and shells, and standoff weapons fired from Turkish F-16s to massacre hundreds of Syrian soldiers and destroy dozens of Syrian tanks and armored carriers. 14. Putin ALWAYS allowed the Americans and the Israelis to bomb and kill Syrians and Russian military personnel with impunity. 15. Putin never punished the allegedly Mossad terrorists who placed a bomb on a Russian passenger jet in Egypt killing hundreds of Russians in the air. 16. Putin agreed to pass sanctions against North Korea thereby agreeing to starve the North Korean population. 17. Putin refused to deliver the self-defense-related S-300s to his supposed ally Iran in the past. 18. Putin has not provided up-to-date SAMs including S-400s to his Syrian allies and prevented the Syrians’ effective use of the older SAMs they have. 19. Putin is still “investigating” the crash of the Russian plane that killed dozens of Russian pilots which were among its passengers. 20. The Zionist oligarchs are still in power in Putin’s Russia. 21. Russians are still not really better off than they were under the Soviet Union. 22. And now Putin and the Russians are enabling the Turks and the Azeris to attempt to commit another genocide of the Armenians.
Thanks Putin.
Who needs enemies with friends and *allies* like the (fake Orthodox Christian) Russians.
Turks don’t forget either…
Erdogans wet dreams.
Again? They did it week ago! AR have old S-300P/PS (the first version with 90 km range, P – towed, PS – self-propelled).
it was published on sf 2 days ago… https://southfront.org/azerbaijani-sources-claim-destruction-of-two-more-armenian-s-300-systems-in-karabakh/
Lots of commenters are complaining about the Armenian S300s lack of showing against Azeris, particularly their drones.
Most of this can probably explained because the Armenians are fielding these old S300PS systems,seemingly ill-suited for the drone threat.
Looks like Putin and Russia gone screw Armenia as they screw Syria, just to please Erdogan and Turkey. Putin weakness put in danger the whole regions.
Its not weakness, its intentional.
Shhh don’t say that to the Putin apologists! You see the Turks supply their side with everything, Russia supplies nothing, but we are supposed to believe Armenians betrayed Russia. Its a clever trick you see to absolve oneself of the truth at hand.
Turkey, I’m sending Jihadi scum to fight for my geopolitical ambition …Moscow OK! Turkey, I’m sending my F16…Moscow OK! Turkey, break the armistice and continue fighting…Moscow OK! Turkey, I will get involved in the fighting should the Azeri lose…Moscow OK!
SouthFront Staff…Armenia betrayed Russia…laughable if it was not so sad!
Way to early to tell.you know.
Turks only have part of Idlib province and some small kurdish areas…therefore Turks, Qatar, USA, Saudi Arabia, Israel and NATO failed in Syria!….Putin knows that AZ army is unable to retake NK since AZ infantery soldiers have been easily killed by snipers in all scout operation inside NK and APC&Tanks&Trucks are easy targets for Kornet ATGM!..for other side AZ army cannot join a large number of vehicles because Smerch rockets ( with the new 9M542 guide by Glonass) would wipe them off!…cannot use the air force to lauch heavy bombs because S-300/Buk/SA-6 shot down helicopters and jets!…
Ra ra Rasputin ♫♬ Lover of the Russian queen There was a cat that really was gone Ra ra Rasputin Russia’s greatest love machine It was a shame how he carried on ♫♬ (Boney m)
Putin has always been about stability in the region, not about ideologies or taking sides. Russia previously sold enough weapons to both sides so they could defend themselves, but not enough to provide a decisive advantage if one side decided they were going to attack their neighbors. The Azeri attacked the mountain fortress of N-K anyway, and had their ass handed to them by the Armenians. This wasn’t because of weapons, it was because a relatively even-matched but unmotivated Azeri army attacked Armenians defending their homes in the mountains of N-K. The Azeri are repeating the same bad idea today, except with the addition of drones.
The only reason the Azeris launched this operation was because they a drone advantage with support from Turkey. So Russia was keeping the neighbors even before that. :)
By constantly focusing of these drones and drone strikes, I think we are all missing the big picture. Which is, the world has not seen conventional warfare on this scale, men and materials, engaged at the same time, since the 2003 invasion of Iraq by the Anglo-Americans.This war is magnitudes bigger than the recent wars in Libya, Syria and Yemen.
“engaged at the same time” You have a good point there, motorized and mechanized units fighting it out in rough terrain.
The wars in Syria and in Yemen are both much bigger than this war. If even the entire Armenian and Azerbaijani armed forces simultaneously engaged each other, it would still be a smaller war than any one ongoing middle eastern war. The populations of each country, and more importantly the population of any of the territory relevant to the war, the size of both sides armed forces, and the unbelievably tiny amount of equipment possessed by both sides make it impossible for this war to be in any way big.
The wars in Syria and Yemen have been ongoing for years and have certainly, at least thus far, taken more lives. So yes, in that sense those could be called “bigger” wars. And yes, the KSA has access to far more types and units of military hardware, and, maybe so, too the SAA, than either of our South Caucasus adversaries. But neither of their battlefield opponents had access to such inventories. So neither the Saudis, nor the Syrians, ever engage in what I would call “conventional warfare”. The two of them fought what is commonly refered to as “guerrilla warfare”.
To make the distinction more clear, the Armenians and Azeris are fighting on a battlefield where both sides are using, simultaneously, artillery, armor, infantry with air support.
more complicated by terrain….there is little actual aerospace conflict except for drones in Azeri/NK conflict
Sure, in terms of classifying the war, it would technically be considered conventional as opposed to asymmetrical. Still, the scale is very small (thankfully).
much of Azeri weaponry is Israeli or Turkish
” This wasn’t because of weapons, it was because a relatively even-matched but unmotivated Azeri army attacked Armenians defending their ”
That’s not really a fair assessment. Attacking a well fortified, well entrenched, mountainous area is extremely difficult for any army, especially one that hasn’t engaged in warfare for 30 years. For example, look how long the Syrian army had to fight to regain its mountainous regions. How many men did they lose in the process ? Were they not motivated ? This is a challenge for anyone Russia included. The Azerbaijan forces will get better with time. Does Armenia have that ?
Additionally, now is a good time to attack as any. As was said earlier, Azerbaijan has waited third years. Might as well get it over with.
syria still standing after almost a decade under siege. was it RF idk but i dont think you can use that
The Russian position in Syria can be described in an analogy.
Let’s say our hero, Mr P, has s friend, Dr A. So close a friend is Dr A that he has reserved a room in his house for the use of Mr P whenever he wants. Then one day a gang of neighbourhood Mafia gather and start beating up Dr A in order to steal his house. Dr A, after valiantly fighting then single handed, and when the Mafia have captured most of his hiuse, begs Mr P for help. Mr P helps, but only so much that the Mafia gangsters, all but one, are driven out of the kitchen, dining room, bathroom, and living room, but still occupy the bedrooms, which they continue to strip of all the fittings and equipment. When Dr A wants to drive them out of the bedrooms, Mr P stops him and signs an agreement with the Mafia by the terms of which they’ll permit Mr P to visit the bedrooms regularly for brief periods, but don’t even allow that. In the meantime the remaining Mafia member keeps shooting at Dr A through the windows, but Mr P, who could easily stop him, does nothing.
Mr P, obviously, is a very, very good friend, and Dr A will continue to trust him forever after that.
its terrible situation and i wish it wasnt just a few select brave nations dealing with the brunt of the hardships but they are not easily stopped unfortunately. zio terror is desperate, sure they are afraid to push back too much, russia doesnt want to fight nato. unless you are already being attacked, who would? more people need to step up like russia and syria is who i blame
Syria now controls nearly all lost territory—just 12% is populated by ISIS/HTS/SDF amerikan turkey terrorists
yes putin is a jew, this is how jews act
Any proof in the claim of destroying the s 300?
Just a fuzzy nighttime image of a Harop drone approaching a S-300 in transport mode. And the video was cut off well before it reached it’s target. Was it a real hit? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/48569c47b452c90c12935cb3e9f18331d1ef58fa1a19e1bd989cefca1cc60d13.jpg
this conflict reveals the racism and stupidity of many here—SF can only report the exaggerations of each side
DEATH TO AZERBAIJAN !!!