It’s the warmongering forces of Aliyev deciding to invade again that warrant such preparations. Only the idiotic UN deploy toothless peacekeepers to warzones.
Nonsense..Why Erdogan initiate such a pointless attack knowing that he is extremely vulnerable position in Syria..Why he risk 25 billion usd Nuclear plant which is constructed by Russians?Imo you are quite prejudiced and full of hate against Turks..Everything in south-caucaus except Georgia is under Russian control ı assure you..
Because Aliyev knows Russia doesn’t really want to stick it’s neck out for the western puppet who rules Armenia. If the Azeri’s attacked in force they could defeat a small, unprepared force pretty quickly. Russia would sanction and launch cruise missiles, maybe even sink the Azeri navy, but Aliyev would survive and Azeribaijan would keep NK. No ground invasion would be worth it for Russia. Hell… Turkey was basically in a semi-open state of war with Russia earlier this year in Idlib.
Do I think it’s likely? No. Possible? Yes.
I don’t hate someone because they’re a Turk, I hate them if they support Erdogan or his Islamist agenda. Which is just a sanitized version of ISIS or HTS at this point.
I have every reason to be suspicious of Turkey’s actions. Under the dictator Erdogan Turkey has been a constant menace the whole region, supporting terrorists in Syria and exporting them Libya and NK. Not to mention his constant blackmailing of Europe by threatening to send yet more unwanted migrants – none of whom like Europe or Europeans, they just want money and handouts. And don’t even get me started on the continued occupation of northern Cyprus…
Before you respond with some ‘you’re a nazi’ line, consider what Erdogan said back in his earlier days – “The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers.” No wonder he loves opening new Mosque’s in Europe.
The bastard should be sent back to jail. Sadly, secular Turkey doesn’t really exist anymore.
Fair,well-rounded comment which ı havent seen a single insult…+ for you..Your first pharagraph highly radical,doomsday scenario in which there is not 0,001 probability to be realized.Aliyev cant simply dare anything without Russian confirmation before-during-after the war.
There are lot of people hating Turks,Erdogan in this venue which prevents them to assert the situations in common-sense..ı didnt respond you with a nazi line..ı said ”prejudiced” and full of hate to Turks..
prejudice = subconscious
The same thing happens when two resumes are the same but most employers pick “John” over “Jose” without a thought.
Personally ı am not islamist,ı dont have any religion because of lack of belief but thats my concern.I am supporting some of Erdogans policies like in Iraq,Libya,east-med but not supported his initial Syria policy.
Turkey has still secular majority even after 20 years Erdo governance..
I skimmed the sentences with Europe because Europe’s irrelevant soapboxes based on Hypocrisy,double standarts don’t interest me.
After Turkey/NATO launched the notorious F-16 ambush that downed the Russian Sukhoi bomber over northern Syria, Russia quietly deployed a squadron of Mig-29’s to Armenia, pointedly, directly at Erdogan’s back. Would assume they are still on deployment and rotation.
Pashiniyan and US, UK, France are much more dangerous than Aliyev, Syrian would be jihadist’s or Turkey.
Aliyev is winner and Pashiniyan is only loser puppet becoming snake in the hands of US, UK, France.
I do not know what to make out of it….
It must be because of Armenian minority in Syria…nothing else. West (US included) talks to Assad also when they must…
“Pashinyan is Anti Erdogan “and so is whole West – anti Erdogan.
And since West is anti Assad also I doubt that Western puppet Pashinyan will ever meet Assad.
I agree and all Turkish political parties are better than Erdogan and no one wants to be worse
but problem is that they are EU puppet so do not know what to do
Because Pashinyan with the support of France can create a guerrilla army to desestabilize NK and save the Pashinyan face….anyway Armenians are more interesting in the life and dresses of Karda sisters than the fate of NK…
Dear Servet, Russians do not afraid of anybody, and they have proved it throughout the history. You would agree, right. With all due respect, but there area always provocateurs. There are plenty of mercenaries in the area, right. I know one for sure – whoever attacks the Russians, will pay with the interests. Russian can devastate any state in Europe with conventional weapons without the platforms leaving Russian territory or Russian territorial waters. Do you really think Russians are afraid? But let me ask you something- I have been to Turkey tens of times. And all your military facilities are heavily protected. Why is that? The Turkish armed forces are afraid of their own people??? Your president goes without security in Turkey? Of course not. Why? He is afraid of his own people??? .. You see those are provocative questions. Even when you build a camp in the mountains when you go, you take some security measures, right. So do the military during even simple drills. Cok selam.
Sure better safe than sorry..ı was quite mocking to show even friendly Armenians can provocate sadly..ı lived in Russia and living in Antalya now..lots of Russian friends..agree Russians are tough people and has a powerful army…but İndividually they can afraid as well ..they have families,kids..vam toje..:)))
And who is saying that protection is only to protect from “friendly Armenians”?!
Only you.
Actually…
They do what any advanced professional army does in such circumstances. Building – fortifying military base because in foreign country.
You are playing smart a$$ and your mockery is displaced and you even know that.
ı am not playing smart-ass.. again you are creating yourself a bubble..ı put ”xD” at the end of my sentence which shows ı am mocking..if so-called provocation not from friendly armenians then armenian side again maybe through some dirty hands…Azerbaijan got what it needed and president,people very happy..they wont and can not dare…
Azerbaijan got what it needed and president,people very happy..
I think exactly the same….Pashiniyan is much more dangerous… could make diversion to restart the war (because has nothing to lose and Russia & CIS have written obligation to defend Armenia anyways )
Better yet US, UK, France have plan, just like in Libya with Gaddafi and he will help execute their plans because now as total loser he depends only on their support and their success..
If US, UK, France try to restart the war to turn Armenia’s defeat into victory through their help. And through that get Armenia totally under their control thus Russia out…they will also totally antagonize Turkey by doing that.
I agree. The problem is, too many Muslim (regimes controlled by the West) countries make problems to each other also.
Recent building Shia – Sunni conflict is created by Israel and the West.
Caliphate and ISIS are their products.
Reason is simple : they want Muslims to kill Muslims forever and make them stay weak and divided.
Everybody knows that.
As their employer it’s the Russian military’s responsibility to insure Russian soldiers can do their jobs in reasonable safety. They give them PPE like helmets, safety glasses as well as weapons for self defence but they are also responsible for providing protection against heavy weapons and sniper attacks while on base and providing armoured vehicles when on patrol.
Aside from their responsibilities as employers there is substantial investment in the training of soldiers and health care for wounded soldiers can be very expensive. It simply makes sense to protect trained personel in your employ and it’s pretty hard to recruit quality soldiers if you don’t provide decent living conditions for them to work in.
Alberto Garza
3 years ago
they copied the dirt walls from the american bases in syria .
This is an internationally used military engineering system – flat packs of wire gabions joined with wire spirals and lined with sacking – basically is modern version of the ancient woven wicker basket and soil packed entrenchment fortifications.
They didn’t copied Russians do that way with with decades on their bases, these ones are actually better than the american ones, these are with steel wires in squares and attached with steel wires one to each other, the US just have same bags filled with sand and stacked next to each other, no steel support as these Russian new ones, but the concept is same. The Russian ones are better made.
“That dirty walls”… have been used in Russia for agriculture purposes.. . wheat/sunflowers seed filling, Tobacco and products that cannot remain closed in bags during storage… years before USA deployed that kind of protection instead of sandbags pallets..
Why?Russian peacekeepers are afraid of friendly nation Armenians xD?
It’s the warmongering forces of Aliyev deciding to invade again that warrant such preparations. Only the idiotic UN deploy toothless peacekeepers to warzones.
I dont think Aliyev will launch another attack…Do you seriously think that Azerbaijan army can dare to touch even a hair of russian soldier?
If it were only a token force of Russian peacekeepers, then yes, as long as Erdogan would back him up.
Nonsense..Why Erdogan initiate such a pointless attack knowing that he is extremely vulnerable position in Syria..Why he risk 25 billion usd Nuclear plant which is constructed by Russians?Imo you are quite prejudiced and full of hate against Turks..Everything in south-caucaus except Georgia is under Russian control ı assure you..
Because Aliyev knows Russia doesn’t really want to stick it’s neck out for the western puppet who rules Armenia. If the Azeri’s attacked in force they could defeat a small, unprepared force pretty quickly. Russia would sanction and launch cruise missiles, maybe even sink the Azeri navy, but Aliyev would survive and Azeribaijan would keep NK. No ground invasion would be worth it for Russia. Hell… Turkey was basically in a semi-open state of war with Russia earlier this year in Idlib.
Do I think it’s likely? No. Possible? Yes.
I don’t hate someone because they’re a Turk, I hate them if they support Erdogan or his Islamist agenda. Which is just a sanitized version of ISIS or HTS at this point.
I have every reason to be suspicious of Turkey’s actions. Under the dictator Erdogan Turkey has been a constant menace the whole region, supporting terrorists in Syria and exporting them Libya and NK. Not to mention his constant blackmailing of Europe by threatening to send yet more unwanted migrants – none of whom like Europe or Europeans, they just want money and handouts. And don’t even get me started on the continued occupation of northern Cyprus…
Before you respond with some ‘you’re a nazi’ line, consider what Erdogan said back in his earlier days – “The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers.” No wonder he loves opening new Mosque’s in Europe.
The bastard should be sent back to jail. Sadly, secular Turkey doesn’t really exist anymore.
Fair,well-rounded comment which ı havent seen a single insult…+ for you..Your first pharagraph highly radical,doomsday scenario in which there is not 0,001 probability to be realized.Aliyev cant simply dare anything without Russian confirmation before-during-after the war.
There are lot of people hating Turks,Erdogan in this venue which prevents them to assert the situations in common-sense..ı didnt respond you with a nazi line..ı said ”prejudiced” and full of hate to Turks..
prejudice = subconscious
The same thing happens when two resumes are the same but most employers pick “John” over “Jose” without a thought.
Personally ı am not islamist,ı dont have any religion because of lack of belief but thats my concern.I am supporting some of Erdogans policies like in Iraq,Libya,east-med but not supported his initial Syria policy.
Turkey has still secular majority even after 20 years Erdo governance..
I skimmed the sentences with Europe because Europe’s irrelevant soapboxes based on Hypocrisy,double standarts don’t interest me.
Parts of Georgia. They control it tro Abkhazia.
After Turkey/NATO launched the notorious F-16 ambush that downed the Russian Sukhoi bomber over northern Syria, Russia quietly deployed a squadron of Mig-29’s to Armenia, pointedly, directly at Erdogan’s back. Would assume they are still on deployment and rotation.
Pashiniyan and US, UK, France are much more dangerous than Aliyev, Syrian would be jihadist’s or Turkey. Aliyev is winner and Pashiniyan is only loser puppet becoming snake in the hands of US, UK, France.
but Pashiniyan is collaborating with Assad
I do not know what to make out of it…. It must be because of Armenian minority in Syria…nothing else. West (US included) talks to Assad also when they must…
Pashinyan is Anti Erdogan and so is Assad I just know they are cooperating but they might meet each other one day
“Pashinyan is Anti Erdogan “and so is whole West – anti Erdogan. And since West is anti Assad also I doubt that Western puppet Pashinyan will ever meet Assad.
it could be that it happens? you never know Armenia and Syria are good friends so it is not impossible Assad also loves Armenia and Christians
I do not believe that to be possible at all. Pashiniyan is Soros puppet.
Okay let’s see but I do not mind him I prefer to have him than Erdogan
I do not like both. Erdogan will bring catastrophe to Turkey sooner or later
agree I think Erdogan will be finished soon max 2025
The sooner the better. Turkey should look for future in Asia, that is where the growth is…Investing in production and economy brings growth not wars.
I agree and all Turkish political parties are better than Erdogan and no one wants to be worse but problem is that they are EU puppet so do not know what to do
Aliyev is also dangerous he is collaborating with jihadist
There are Russia and Iran breading down his neck so I think that he will behave once they start to squeeze him.
Let’s be frank here, those are not peacekeeping forces station there.
Because Pashinyan with the support of France can create a guerrilla army to desestabilize NK and save the Pashinyan face….anyway Armenians are more interesting in the life and dresses of Karda sisters than the fate of NK…
You have a point ı am asking myself that why this dumbass still dont resign?His supporters still whisper somethings to his ears..
Dear Servet, Russians do not afraid of anybody, and they have proved it throughout the history. You would agree, right. With all due respect, but there area always provocateurs. There are plenty of mercenaries in the area, right. I know one for sure – whoever attacks the Russians, will pay with the interests. Russian can devastate any state in Europe with conventional weapons without the platforms leaving Russian territory or Russian territorial waters. Do you really think Russians are afraid? But let me ask you something- I have been to Turkey tens of times. And all your military facilities are heavily protected. Why is that? The Turkish armed forces are afraid of their own people??? Your president goes without security in Turkey? Of course not. Why? He is afraid of his own people??? .. You see those are provocative questions. Even when you build a camp in the mountains when you go, you take some security measures, right. So do the military during even simple drills. Cok selam.
Sure better safe than sorry..ı was quite mocking to show even friendly Armenians can provocate sadly..ı lived in Russia and living in Antalya now..lots of Russian friends..agree Russians are tough people and has a powerful army…but İndividually they can afraid as well ..they have families,kids..vam toje..:)))
And who is saying that protection is only to protect from “friendly Armenians”?! Only you. Actually… They do what any advanced professional army does in such circumstances. Building – fortifying military base because in foreign country. You are playing smart a$$ and your mockery is displaced and you even know that.
ı am not playing smart-ass.. again you are creating yourself a bubble..ı put ”xD” at the end of my sentence which shows ı am mocking..if so-called provocation not from friendly armenians then armenian side again maybe through some dirty hands…Azerbaijan got what it needed and president,people very happy..they wont and can not dare…
Azerbaijan got what it needed and president,people very happy..
I think exactly the same….Pashiniyan is much more dangerous… could make diversion to restart the war (because has nothing to lose and Russia & CIS have written obligation to defend Armenia anyways )
Agreed..his mind-set and the fact that he is still in power shamelessly shows that he hasnt any dignity and has a plan..
Better yet US, UK, France have plan, just like in Libya with Gaddafi and he will help execute their plans because now as total loser he depends only on their support and their success..
If US, UK, France try to restart the war to turn Armenia’s defeat into victory through their help. And through that get Armenia totally under their control thus Russia out…they will also totally antagonize Turkey by doing that.
I am not lying only the Gaddafi family can get Libya out of chaos the others can not because they can not figure it out
I agree. Divided Libya is not good solution,.. except for the West.
they killed Gaddafi because they do not want Libya to get bigger and stronger and NATO does not want Muslim countries to become good
I agree. The problem is, too many Muslim (regimes controlled by the West) countries make problems to each other also. Recent building Shia – Sunni conflict is created by Israel and the West. Caliphate and ISIS are their products. Reason is simple : they want Muslims to kill Muslims forever and make them stay weak and divided. Everybody knows that.
I am not lying only the Gaddafi family can get Libya out of chaos the others can not because they can not figure it out
they killed Gaddafi because they do not want Libya to get bigger and stronger and NATO does not want Muslim countries to become good
As their employer it’s the Russian military’s responsibility to insure Russian soldiers can do their jobs in reasonable safety. They give them PPE like helmets, safety glasses as well as weapons for self defence but they are also responsible for providing protection against heavy weapons and sniper attacks while on base and providing armoured vehicles when on patrol.
Aside from their responsibilities as employers there is substantial investment in the training of soldiers and health care for wounded soldiers can be very expensive. It simply makes sense to protect trained personel in your employ and it’s pretty hard to recruit quality soldiers if you don’t provide decent living conditions for them to work in.
they copied the dirt walls from the american bases in syria .
Thick dirt walls are quick and cheap, like oversized sandbags. :)
This is an internationally used military engineering system – flat packs of wire gabions joined with wire spirals and lined with sacking – basically is modern version of the ancient woven wicker basket and soil packed entrenchment fortifications.
They didn’t copied Russians do that way with with decades on their bases, these ones are actually better than the american ones, these are with steel wires in squares and attached with steel wires one to each other, the US just have same bags filled with sand and stacked next to each other, no steel support as these Russian new ones, but the concept is same. The Russian ones are better made.
“That dirty walls”… have been used in Russia for agriculture purposes.. . wheat/sunflowers seed filling, Tobacco and products that cannot remain closed in bags during storage… years before USA deployed that kind of protection instead of sandbags pallets..