The situation is once again escalating at the contact line between Indian and Pakistani forces in the contested Jammu and Kashmir region.
Accrding to reports, last night a 24-year-old woman and her two siblings were killed on the Indian side of the Line of Control and another civilian was injured as a result of the artillery duel between the Indian and Pakistani forces. At the same time, 5 civilians and 2 soldiers were portedly killed on the Pakistani side of the contact line
Jammu & Kashmir: Three members of a family were killed in shelling by Pakistan, in Poonch district's Krishna Ghati sector, last night. pic.twitter.com/kqCsnf6RFH
— ANI (@ANI) March 2, 2019
Both sides accuse each other of violating the ceasefire regime and targeting civilian areas. This development comes amid recent signs that the leadership of both states may have been seeking for a de-escalation of the situation. However, the situation on the ground is developing by own logic.
Indians got whupped in the sky, so now resorting to killing Kashmiri civilians and then you wonder why the people of Kashmir want freedom.
By using ISIS and Al-Qaida style tactics and attacks? This whole sorry round of escalations wouldn’t have happened if the Pakistani military wasn’t hosting and supporting Kashmiri headchoppers.
People who carry out suicide attacks are not people interested in freedom but wanting to impose their brand of ‘freedom’ on others.
As for Pakistan and India, children who access to nuclear weapons shouldn’t be playing with matches. It’s amazing that the West goes apeshit when Assad supposedly gasses some Jihadi stronghold, which even if it were true is no real threat to the world, but instead leans back and does nothing while Pakistan and India can actually unleash WW3 on the world. A nuclear exchange between the two countries will not directly hurt the rest of the world, that is until the nuclear fallout starts raining down on the rest of the world and millions of hungry desperate what used to be Pakistanis and Indians come screaming across the border looking for food and safety.
Kashmiris want freedom and the Zionist scum are helping Indian repression and brutality. I used to be neutral in this spat but after the Zionist filth got involved, I think Pakistan needs to train more Jihadis and let them loose in Kashmir.
So…., what makes Jihadis good when fighting India but bad when they fight Assad? THEY ARE THE DEVIL! There are no good Jihadis! They will always try to impose Hell on Earth, as they want to impose their hardline Jihadi Islamism on society. Do you want to have Idlib in Kashmir? Islamic State in Kashmir? The Taliban Emirate in Kashmir? The Gazastrip under Hamas in Kashmir? Those are not happy places to live in.
Also, you can’t support Jihadis and expect them to do what you want them to do. Jihadis have their own plans and they WILL bite the hand that feeds them. Support them at your own peril!
Absolute nonsense, they are a convenient tool for the west to sow sectarianism and protect the Zionist occupation of Palestine. Do read a book once in a while. I suggest start with SHADOW WARS by Christopher Davidson a very well respected British scholar who details how the west created the Jihadis to fight as proxies and then the project boomeranged. US intelligence agencies continue to regard the Islamic State, like al-Qaeda before it, as a strategic but volatile asset to be wielded against their enemies.
So the Mufti of Jerusalem was a western in beard and tent ? Why not.
Extremist Jihadi groups are a western creation for proxy wars dating back to USSR in Afghanistan.
So Jews and christians invented Islam. That of course includes Muhammed economics.
If You are a muslim, You show very well, that You not even know, what is written and by that Islam more is a Yankee Bar.
Benghazi
Very impressing. You take one little dot on the world map. Even on an Islamic world, its hardly there.
“Jihadis have their own plans and they WILL bite the hand that feeds them. Support them at your own peril!”
Benghazi
was where the US ambassador had more than his hand bitten
What a joke.
That was an internal political American affaire of the dirtiest kind. Mainly Hillary did not do well. It was the same for Syria where she hesitated cutting the support to ISIS even Obama thought so.
The Democrates certainly has to refind themselves. I would like to have Sanders as Vicepresident at the next election. It would be very good for USA.
I see none Republicans should be able to win.
You seemes to have written nothing about me. Even so You can write about me like that assuming things from the dark sky.
I agree in this. Even in versions Jihadists are almost the same.
Those attackers are very few and dont represent the muslims living in India at all.
Its more true Turks in Ankara represent Syrians in Syria. Palestinian models must be in clothing or something like that as well.
The attackers mainly are from far away from Kashmir and should start liberating Pakistan themselves. But they cant, because they are a minority, which for good and a few bad reasons are kept down.
Apart from some semi atomic bpmbs the rulers of Pakistand has not develloped a sigle thing since britts was forced to leave.
Even food is more and more a problem. Because of their landownersystems as well as the last thing You can are children, the more and more salty irrigations make less and less food like it will in Syria and Iraq bacuse Turks systematicly even take the water, which traditionelly was used down streams.
Pakistan need reforms. Some upperclass run the whole thing as well as there never should have been only one Pakistan.
The big excuse as for Ottomans and Ottowomen are wars unite people. And yes they do – in graveyards.
The headchoppers in Pakistan are controlled by the Saudis, who do it for the USA. The headchoppers use American terror instruction manuals at school. Time you realized how evil your country is.
Realistic assessment backed up by historical facts. The headchoppers are a tool of US and western military policies of waging proxy wars using Saudi and Gulf money.
Kind of funny. Saudis are muslims too. You certainly are among friends and even have to use USA and Zionists to excuse them. Hahahahaha.
There is a lot of soul searching going on in India at the poor performance of its airforce. An in depth analysis in an article “Why Indian Airforce is Dying ?” predicted this poor outcome a few years ago.
The age of the captured Indian pilot was telling, as was his rank.
Quite baffling, why any airforce would send an old senior pilot in an antiquated MIG-21, albeit refurbished by Israel, into combat against a better airforce. The result was quite expected.
Pakistan are no better airforce and they lost i unit.
If he had empty pockets, he was forced to it, because he was poor too or they held his daugthers and sons as hostages ?
Just creativisme from You.
There are not. The Indian airforce did very well, if the results are reliable.
Even many old planes, they could efford new ones, if they wished. But they are sensible in economics comparing to, what mainly Pakistan has.
As I recall it, India actually has ordered new jets but stay in the not so advanced level. It also say, that You overrate the internal critisisme and try to infect their unity about 40 of theirs should be killed.
You only try to appeal to the warmongols of theirs. Thats exact the same kind as Yours apart from they are Hindus.
Do You really want another war again killing 1000s there. I think so.
India and Pakistan have been having artillery duels for decades now, the rest of the world only makes a huge problem of it because of the last days events, like its then beginning of a total nuclear war…
This might indeed be preparing the ground for the influx of displaced ISIL and other goups’ members. Especially Uighur groups would be ‘suitable’ next to a border with China. The struggle for Kashmirian autonomy is something quite different, certainly not helped by such movements as Jaysh-e Muhammad. The comparison with the Middle East only holds partly. Unlike Syria, both Pakistan and India are democracies. Yet, it has to be acknowledged that they both supress minorities that seek greater independence, like Baluchis and Kashmiris. I agree all this shouldn’t be exaggerated, especially as we talk about mature states, more so than e.g. the US, which is an infinitely greater threat to world peace and thus humanity as a whole. Likely, Saudi-Arabia is paying Pakistan to set up a free haven for their “terrorist” assets.
That is a sensible comment. The so-called Jihadis are a US and Zionist creation to sow sectarianism in the Muslim world as as well use them as proxies in regional conflicts. People with limited knowledge or Zionist induced amnesia conveniently forget that the CIA allowed trained and armed hundreds of thousands of Jihadis to kill Russians in Afghanistan and the demented Reagan and his CIA pimp Bill Casey openly feted them in the White House calling them the equals of “American Founding Fathers”. It is totally hypocritical to say that one set of Jihadis is good and the other bad. Most of the uneducated idiots who post nonsense here don’t have a clue.
A very well written book by a British scholar Christopher Davidson -Shadow wars explains how f https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d9199580b5ae8f576a723559011a2dd44349fcbeb06a8fb39c85c75db9fd2f36.jpg or more than a century successive US and UK governments have sought to thwart nationalist, socialist and pro-democracy movements in the Middle East. Through the Cold War, the ‘War on Terror’ and the present era defined by the Islamic State, the Western powers have repeatedly manipulated the region’s most powerful actors to ensure the security of their own interests and, in doing so, have given rise to religious politics, sectarian war, bloody counter-revolutions and now one of the most brutal incarnations of Islamic extremism ever seen.
India says that a Mig-21 shot down a PAF F-16…..sci fi?
“F-16 manufacturer Lockheed Martin to file law suit against false Indian claims & expresses annoyance over the factually incorrect claim of shooting down of Pakistan’s F-16 by IAF. Says all F-16s on Pakistani inventory are well accounted for!”
well on a propaganda basis i consider this ‘law suit’ not worthy of commenting….my guess is than the IAF greatly underestimated the PAFs response. they send obsolete Mig-21 aircrafts to attack ground targets with no support. just hit and run !Pakistan responded immediately. maybe their counter-intelligence expected that strike…..India become a joke for the world……sad. they have 2-3 aircrafts maybe a helo as well downed and they are talking about finding a missile fired by an f-16……maybe the missile that downed their aircraft in the first place. a long range missile that a Mig-21 wasnt capable of avoiding
I agree Your comment as a very good guess. It was a well organized revenge-surprice attack. Pakistanis was there and faster then they thought.
And to me 1 airplane and pilot isnt much, hoped not but a very low lose.
Too much diaperjumping here :)
i read about US wanting to know if the PAF used an F-16 because in that case they broke the agreement signed when sold. that is to be used for defense only….
I dont rely in much of anything from any of them. Pakistanis are many groups and hardly none speak for all. USA dont hold back as well. Taking Osama is only one example.
We have seen USA actually stop Saudis for giving extra high class missiles to ISIS. They were and really angry, but not as angry as USA can be.
But of course USA can use the agreements as they wish. My own oppinon repeated again yesterday is, that Pakistan as well as other poscolonial states are too artificial. Such states like fx Pakistan and Afghanistan, should be split up. Those should be 3. Libya 3-4. Somalia 3. Sudan now are 2-3, but should be 5. Nigeria should be at least 3 and Mali as least 2.
We have seen Senegal even well integrated and in first priority by France went from something to 2 states.
Thats a General oppinion. I also never will understand, that China should be only one state, and we should accept the oppinoins about it from Bejing. Which China was is, that rented Hong Kong and Macau to others. The chinese civile was was devastating. Why should there not be at least 2 x China. Tibet is not China but a chinese possesion zone.
I would say the same for many smaller countries. They should be allowed to decide themselves and fx make føderations and good neighbor relations in stead.
I know I am far from the F16s :) – just reflecting. Pakistan even was East Pakistan now Bangla Desh. The muslims in west were forced to be muslims. In Bangla Desh they became muslims by own choise. Strange people could not see that also makes big diffrences.
Fake claim and has been discounted by all western analysts. Indians got the worst in this encounter.
So where did the Indians get the used American missile?
Israel practices with Indians and Taiwanese airforces. The manufacturers of the AIM-120 state that it was supplied to Taiwan a few years ago and is incompatible with Pakistani F-16. This story was quite incredulous to believe.
i cant really understand why. i have read about a strike by 5 miraze 2000 aircrafts with spice bombs. then another by migs…..my guess is than the IAF greatly underestimated the PAF response. they send obsolete Mig-21 aircrafts to attack ground targets with no support. just hit and run !Pakistan responded immediately. maybe their counter-intelligence expected that strike…..India become a joke for the world……sad. they have 2-3 aircrafts maybe a helo as well doened and they are talking about finding a missile fired by an f-16……maybe the missile that downed their aircraft in the first place. a long range missile that a Mig-21 wasnt capable of avoiding
India is no joke for my world. I dont know from which dep basement, You send for.
Here it is as usual. Some Pakki morons provoke and maybee next Pakistan themselves will be knocked up by war.
trust me thats not how the world looks at the situation right now. India is in panic trying to give evidence that a MIG-21 shot down an F-16 while the Pakistanis have a captured pilot for the media festival. i guess the generals thought that they could surf the waves of the area …but they were wrong…the PAF set a trap and an ancient airplane fell into it. My friend its not business as usual trust me. if India lets go of this the terrorist state of Pakistan will become more and more aggressive.
Modi is copying American Presidential tactics, that is, start a war to get reelected.
It is possible that the planes both scored a kill and were also killed. If a Pakistani plane fell in India there would be pics, but if both planes fell in Pakistan only pics of the Indian plane would be released. Pakistan will never admit to using an F16, the US would refuse to supply spares.
The first casualty of war is the truth.
You certainly support casualties of truth being even more hidden.
Geesuz… you give them their crappy pilot back as a goodwill gesture and this is how they thank you..
Of course when your Prime Minister is rubbing shoulders with Netanyahoo aka satan, the last thing your country will be doing is seeking peace.
Come on India, what is the matter with you !
Are you really that weak ?
tststs…