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The first combat use in Russian history of the Oreshnik intermediate-range ballistic missile at the Yuzhmash enterprise in Dnipropetrovsk triggered a wave of phobic and alarmist publications in the Western press.
The Daily Mail calculated how many minutes it would take for a new ICBM to reach European capitals from the Kapustin Yar test site in the Volgograd region. It would take 11 minutes to reach Berlin, 13 minutes to reach Rome, 15 minutes to reach Paris and 16 minutes to reach London. The ability of missile defense systems to repel a Russian missile attack is reasonably questionable.
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In Europe, and more broadly in the West, there are two polarized views on the realism of a Russian nuclear strike on the territory of NATO countries. The first view was expressed the other day by Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who called on his colleagues in the North Atlantic Alliance to exercise prudence and common sense.
“These are changes that will have consequences. The Russian president sent a televised address to the citizens in which he clearly described the situation and said that they feel entitled to declare as military targets those countries that give such long-range weapons to Ukraine. This is not a communication gimmick. You have to be careful when dealing with a country like Russia. The fact that they have one of the strongest armies in the world, with the most advanced and destructive weapons, plays a key role in their standing in the world and their view of the future. When they say something about it, you have to take it as they say it,” the Hungarian prime minister said.
This position is clearly close to Donald Trump’s team. A different opinion is held by ardent Atlanticists who are still guided by the approaches of the outgoing administration of Joseph Biden. French Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot said that there is no need to fear the arrival of a nuclear bomb from the East – it is just blackmail:
“This is all the nuclear rhetoric that Vladimir Putin has been waving around for the last 2.5 years to cause concern. And it’s not entirely unexpected, since he announced a change in doctrine a few weeks ago. So let’s not get scared. As the president said yesterday, Russia must return to common sense and responsibility. The responsibility of a country that has nuclear weapons. The responsibility of a country that is a permanent member of the UN Security Council”.
At the same time, it does not look like Moscow is joking. The Russian leadership is taking very measured and cautious steps on the ladder of counter-escalation, responding to pressure from the West. In addition to the combat use of the Oreshnik, Russia’s nuclear doctrine has changed. Now the use of weapons of mass destruction is authorized in the event of a non-nuclear threat to national security, not only for the Russian Federation, but also for the Republic of Belarus, its closest ally. This threat can now be posed by cruise missiles, drones, hypersonic and other aircraft, as well as tactical aircraft. Previously, the doctrine prescribed only ballistic missiles.
How realistic is the use of nuclear weapons in the current conflict? So far, we can say unequivocally: Russia does not intend to use them against Ukraine, as President Vladimir Putin confirmed in his speech at the plenary session of the Valdai International Discussion Club on October 27. For the Kremlin, the Ukrainian territories are historical Russian lands over which NATO proxies have established control. It is illogical to attack one’s own country and poison it with radiation for centuries to come. The Kremlin’s goal is to liberate Ukraine and reunite it with the Russian state (with the most favorable outcome). Therefore, we will not even consider this scenario.
A strike with tactical nuclear weapons on the territory of the North Atlantic Alliance is a more likely scenario. However, in order for this to happen, several stages of escalation will have to pass. We should not assume that tomorrow a nuclear-tipped Oreshnik will fly into the territory of Lithuania, Poland or Germany. The Russian supreme commander has made Moscow’s next steps quite clear, emphasizing that they will be mirror steps. In an address to his fellow citizens, Putin said:
“We consider ourselves entitled to use our weapons against the military facilities of those countries that allow their weapons to be used against our facilities, and in case of an escalation of aggressive actions we will respond just as decisively and in mirror image. I recommend to the ruling elites of those countries who are hatching plans to use their military contingents against Russia to think seriously about it”.
A mirror response implies the use of the same types of weapons against similar military targets. In this case, we are not talking about weapons of mass destruction, because the West has not used a nuclear bomb against the Russians. The Russian command has targets for not only legitimate, but also quite legal strikes. For example, in the Syrian Arab Republic there is a military base of Al Tanf and other facilities of the United States of America. A total of 900 U.S. military personnel are on Syrian territory without authorization from official Damascus. President Bashar Al-Assad, in accordance with international law, can ask Russia to eliminate the foreign military presence in Syria.
The reasons for the presence of American military contingents in Iraq, where they appeared after the occupation in 2003 (there are now up to 2,500 Pentagon troops in the Arab country), are highly questionable. One of the largest American bases, Camp Bondsteel, with an area of 3.86 km2 and a perimeter length of 11.3 kilometers, is located on the occupied territory of Serbia – in the region of Kosovo and Metohija. Obviously, the government in Belgrade will not officially authorize strikes against the occupying forces, since the Serbs are not in the best condition. However, Russia can disregard this authorization: a strike on Camp Bondsteel would have a huge propaganda effect and create a wave of euphoria among the Serbian population. President Aleksandar Vucic would hardly dare to impose sanctions against Moscow while standing up for the American occupiers and Albanian separatists.
All these attacks may not be carried out directly by Russia, but under cover of proxies. In Syria, for example, the “front man” could be either the Assad government itself or the Lebanese Hezbollah, which has experience with painful attacks on Western occupation contingents (just recall the 1983 attack in Beirut that killed 299 “peacekeepers”). In Iraq – the Popular Mobilization Forces, controlled by the Islamic Republic of Iran, but not directly linked to Tehran. Missiles against Kosovo can be launched by some “Serbian patriotic organization” which “by chance” has an Oreshnik missile. It will be obvious to everyone that Russia is directly involved in the attack on the American base, but we should not forget: it is obvious to everyone that it is American, British and French specialists who are guiding ATACMS and Storm Shadow missiles over the territory of the Kursk region. Just today this was confirmed by the newspaper Le Monde.
The prospect of a Russian tactical nuclear strike directly against NATO is now very vague. At least until January 20, 2025, it is not worth talking about, because Moscow is waiting to see what strategy the new administration of Donald Trump will choose for Ukraine. The provocative actions of the Democrats are quite readable by the Kremlin: Vladimir Putin realizes that Biden and his entourage are deliberately trying to bring Russia and the United States into a direct armed conflict just before the new president takes office. Therefore, restraint on the part of the Russian Federation is to be expected.
The use of tactical nuclear weapons is possible in three scenarios:
First: full-scale entry of NATO military contingents into Ukraine. Weapons of mass destruction – something that can level the difference in military potential between the collective West and Russia.
Second: an attack by NATO troops against the Republic of Belarus. Russia does not have enough forces to use them in the western direction and to cope with the troops of the North Atlantic Alliance. The Belarusian army alone is not capable of solving defense tasks. Tactical nuclear weapons will make up for this difference.
And finally, the third: NATO’s attempt to change the course of the war by using not military contingents but, for example, air power to impose a no-fly zone, following the example of the 2011 intervention in Libya.
As emphasized above, the first tactical nuclear strike, as well as subsequent ones, will be launched not on Ukrainian territory, which Russia perceives as its own, but on the near and far rear of the North Atlantic Alliance. The primary target will be the Polish airfield at Rzeszow, which has become a logistical hub for military aid to Ukraine, as well as places where NATO troops and warplanes are concentrated near the Ukrainian border. It is difficult to say who would be the beneficiary of an exchange of tactical nuclear strikes. Most likely, a direct nuclear exchange would be detrimental to both sides of the conflict.
At the same time, Russia has been fighting a war for two and a half years that it sees as a defense of its own borders. NATO’s involvement in a conflict far from the Alliance’s interests, with huge and unprecedented casualties, could lead to public discontent and a political crisis in the West. It is unlikely that the Portuguese, Canadians, Americans and Italians will be enthusiastic about the prospect of burning in nuclear ash to prevent Russian troops from taking Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev or Kharkov.
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trump will save usa army from trans troops. trump will deport all trans troops to (ukraine). mass deportations now. be a trumper for the usa safety. make america great again.
the only way a trans person could enlist in the military would be to go back into the closet. they would be unable to wear the uniforms, use the bathroom or sleep in the barracks that align with their gender
trump will save children from transsexual genders and trans troopshow trump will do this? mass deport all trans genders to (ukraine front lines).
transvestite insanity was invented by jews. they associated it with the rainbow flag so that in the future they can present the “solution” to the problems they caused. their “solution” is jews ruling the world to save us from ourselves.
https: //www. sefaria. org/ sheets/ 37225?lang=bi
myjewishlearning. com/ article/ the- eight- genders- in- the – talmud/
morons believe propagandas. everyone knows .
forward. com/ culture/ 549587/ trans- book- burning -library -gay – pride/
“in weimar germany, the gay jewish doctor magnus hirschfeld performed the first gender-affirming surgeries and collected research on sexuality. the 1933 book burnings destroyed his life’s work”
look you ignoramii even one if rome’s caesars was a cross dressing tranny who actually went out at night and worked the streets as a prostitute. grow up .trannies are as old as time .
the jewish autonomous oblast in russia created in the soviet union has a rainbow flag.
chabad. org/ library/article_cdo/ aid/ 2770455/ jewish/ what- is- the- significance- of- a- rainbow -in -judaism .htm
“when a rainbow appears in the sky, it is considered a sign that we have sinned, but g‑d has remembered his covenant. therefore, when seeing a rainbow, it is appropriate to thank g‑d for not making another flood. we thank g‑d by making a special blessing.”
it’s judeo christian sunday school lessons for preschool kiddies you obviously didn’t go .
you and your fake names everyday .boring
https: //t. me/ eternalmuscovite/ 71395
ah yes, russian dubbing moment (replaces the words “putin” and “russia” with “hitler” and “germany”)
another russian dubbing studio replaced “putin” and “russia” with “north korea” and “kim jong un” lmao
why do i comment here? because i hold most people here in contempt. they lie often and ironically share many of the characteristics they hate americans for. the reality of the matter is far more complex and not straight forward.
i know the problems, they are diagnosed, and the fact we have been governed by depraved foreigners for 100 years who deliberately weaken us while opening our borders with the intent of exterminating us through the ensuing chaos.
they’ve never accepted the independence. they in various guises behind masks and using over institutionalised ” educated ” aka brainwashed dumb and dumber, their favourite things , have sabotaged it from the start.
do you ever wonder why they might hate americans?
look in a mirror, yankee doodle.
i remember in 1993 when i first visited moscow and was at a kiosk. next to me was a mother and her young kid. i bought a snickers and handed it to him, saying in russian ‘a present from america’, he lit up with a smile and she thanked me.
boy was i a dumb, naive shit back then. and boy, so were they.
i also note that like elsewhere online they treat their detractors as if they are animals trapped behind the glass at the zoo. they tease them like how some people deliberately seek to antagonize lions behind the glass.
it’s a circus. there’s a ring master .and owners .
i saw a clip on telegram where a rabbi acted like a lunatic at the zoo. he was antagonizing a white lion behind the glass. whoever posted it compared it to the toxic relationship between whites and jews.
there was also a photoshopped picture from a scene in planet of the apes (1968) where 2 apes were talking in front of enslaved humans in cages. the actors were white. the black one had a blm logo and the brown monkey had a jewish star.
i notice that blacks, jews and others love to gloat about white decline which is caused by white people being tricked by egalitarian lies invented by psychopaths 100-2000 years ago seeking their downfall.
whites suffering brings joy and glee to their hearts. women and children crying out in pain makes the assailants feel horny as they pump their semen into their bodily holes.
fool caucasian genes are dominant they know it .
your blunt nature comes off as a bit depraved; might wanna dial that down a bit… or, spin the mute point some more…
while they are raping and murdering, they feel like white people are evil murders unprecedented throughout human history, while ignoring horrific things that every other race have done to members of other races including their own.
you are boring, irrelevant and boring!
so you enjoy being destroyed by immigration?
wake uo whi on earth do you think spread immigration more than england????
you’re ignorant uneducated ill informed and naive or just plain totally dishonest .imo .
it’s always been class war .not colour
oh, my uniform just isn’t colour coordinated! it’s so-o-o-o-o last year! it just doesn’t go with my eye liner!
gay people are rhe gender they re attracted too you numbskull .
if you should be picky, trump is a murderer, which should hang. he is not messiah, despite cia have declared him immortal.
you must have forgotten that trump said a tranny can use whatever bathroom they want at trump tower .
so he’s no holy roller (except when it comes to israel) and loves his trannies.
are you deaf ? he played ymca by the village people at his victory speech. he used that as his theme song .
if it really and unfortunately comes to that point, the first country to be turned into a nuclear ashtray is poland because the polish government, and the military of that country, have made it clear on several occasions that they want this and, of course, they will not get it back none of the territories that the soviets retook after the end of the second war and which, ironically, are under the command of the kiev puppet.
people aren’t under command of puppets puppets are under command of people
this is just another questionable article by servian chetnick drago the fuck.
boooooring
left and other enemy states want to kill trump like kennedy. trump must up 2x more security immediatelly. trump’s 1st job must be firing top usa (left).generals that planing coup across him , if trump do not fire these left generals coup will be loading same as brazil (lula ) in usa and trump will gone with coup
there’s nothing he can really do maybe stall them for a bit he needs the world’s people ,the people to form new governments if he effects change ,but that won’t happen because they’re too corrupted already. it’s too late .bottom line .
the disunited c*nts of a never forgets and never forgives and this is a payback of sorts for the way pres putin took back the russian resources the well known pedophil clinton thought he had secured for the americ*nts. and today the americ*nts are more or less bankrupt whereas russia is still brimming with rawmaterials of every kind. it appears pedophilia is allowed in the disunited states if you have a certain standing. the ones not so outfitted go to jail!
you’re full of it .
listen sir walter rally .england, you uneducated drop put institutionalised paedophilia more than any other nation ever on earth they made the cabin.boy system of operations the backbone of their admiralty that created thd brittania rules the waves greatest empire ,land thieves , murderers ,the world has ever seen .you’re just so ridiculously uninformed. it’s unbelievable.
should be ”and the britons waives the rules” and not the other way round – ignoramus – alas for the cognoscenti!
talking about jews and israel, to them being a pedo is ‘biblical’ to jews, but you don’t address reality, now your blambing brewers club pedos on all uk, faf..
rusko by malo udrieť na usa v sýrii a červenom mori!!! usa sú vo vojne proti rf!!! ich rakety zabíjajú na ruskom území a to si žiada odpoveď!!! svetu mier!!!
before finishing the entire world it is time to turn lemberg into a smoking ash tray as a last (or first?) and serious warning…
russia has just made nuclear weapons obsolete. they just obliterated a huge facility in dnepro using simple physics in the form f=ma. this irbm (not an icbm, it doesn’t have – or need – intercontinental range) can obliterate entire military complexes anywhere in europe without any explosives, either nuclear or conventional. it just fires hypersonic 140kg ‘bullets’ (36 of them per missile) made of hardened steel or tungsten.
yes and theyre not alone .japan’s got amazing new secret weapons .
it would be nice to see demonstrations of larger and faster kinetic penetrators. the big brother r-36 could carry a much larger payload and to higher speeds. how much chemical energy does such a huge rocket have, and what is the approximate fraction of this energy that end up as kinetic energy of the warhead as it hits the ground? 1/20 roughly perhaps; still a huge amount.
a lot of these military industrial facilities underground can be demilitarized.
exactly, the writer of this article, and most of the commenters, miss the purpose of this new weapons system entirely.
it is extremely annoying when the “eu” is reported in the west, one quickly talks about “europe” and the “usa” is always “america”.
now i notice that southfront adopts this slang and also speaks of “europe”. at this point, i would like to point out repeatedly that the european part of russia alone is just as big as all 27 eu states combined.
all the states of the usa together account for about 1/5 of the area of america. the fact that an idiot like trump shouts slogans like “make america great again” is due to his low iq coupled with a lack of education, and i think it is very unlikely that trump means cuba or venezuela by that! – but southfront should not adopt such ignorant and stupid behavior as its own!
he was educated by the jesuits at what is known as their fortress ,georgetown university.
the russian person is basically eurasian .the royals were mostly danish bloodlines even being queen victoria’s grandchildren .the ” european ” royals always marry a dane to prevent porphyria. it’s tradition .the russian people have intermarried with mongols and asians forever caucasian genes are dominant and the asian seems to disappear but it’s still there .
but, that was all they were after at. some of russian hypersonic weapon specifics and as russians didn’t implemented glassing grade seismics, they got what they were after at. even at the cost of a million dead slavs. the verminous creatures that they are and always have been.
just give some good weapons to the houthis….
no one gives them weapons they buy them or are employees .
if white people wipe themselves off the planet in this war, don’t their stupid leaders realize it will only make china an even bigger superpower, actually the only superpower left?
so by fighting russia, china wins. so why bother?
the mass idiocy of the western leaders is despicable.
go back to shopping for asian proxies to take on china in their hemisphere and make a deal with russia. let them have eastern ukraine.
rubbish africa’s ascending it’s the next superpower
sorry europussies, nato failed you
what do you think would have happened if france/ us/ uk/ germany fired cruise missiles into the soviet union killing soviet citizens and servicemen? what would any soviet leader have done? i think we know the answer.
you haven’t a clue zero .
it was theatre all of if . people are bred to be stupid by them .they hate clever people .they love dumb people
it’s the nuclear age. and it’s the end of the world their greed will cause it .and it won’t be avoided .there will be no time and this world will fall away and we will not need sunlight any more not need sleep not feel pain or sorrow and we wil live in our shiny bodies .that’s the end .
so this article confirmed that russia will not use nukes in ukraine, so west will give ukraine shot of up to 3000 km to russian territory. i knew putin did not have what it takes.
the war will not really start until the biggest air force base in the world in romania becomes operational ..
i know stupidy at this level is an art form, but saying you don’t want to kick your crack whore daughter out of the house, but sitting down with your lawyers to sort out your estate and protect you assests from bailiffs and to ensure summat for your other 2 kids, doesn’t mean you won’t kick her out, if you have to. nato is that crack whore…
jews control the west. it is more than obvious and they want a nuclear war
yes, and russia just demonstrated the finest flea flicker ever to hit the market, that kkills fleas dead, before they infest another host, without taking the birds and the bees with em. it’s brilliant.
the psycho social engineers think they pre-empted the tit for tat escalation response of ru calling on its defense pact partners in helping defend kursk (and donbass which is recognized by nk) with their announcement of korean troops in kursk earlier this month. it may not work out as successful as they thought.
i will not permit any senile vegetable like biden or tomsawyer to allow taliban to burn my mansions with russian nukes–we always back down
not needed a nuclear war…just attacking main airbases and taking them out of service, nato ground forces lack of vehicles and ammo for a ground invasion in russia, belarus and ukraine front
ukraine is a multi tier conflict, some specialist predicted, first was only ukraine support over russia agression, then it is nato war and support, now they are joining the vassals conquered states, france, germany. they are pushing fordward in layers against russia, so they expect russia would fall to the westerners. the children did not understand the scientific advances from the u.s.s.r and then russia. russia should blow children and master layer.
we will populate earth again after all scum were gone. and by scum i mean those soulless bots controlled by hollywood propaganda, and ai with all the tools of western civilization propaganda created. also usa have deployed gens modified children since the late 70’s. so russia understand what usa empire are doing worldwide.
france is america’s cow boy.president biden lying. biden says illegal immigrants in usa are 12 million and trans troops 3000, this is not true. america has 40 million illegal imigrants and 15000 trans troops , i repait 40 million illegal refugees. america must fix this problem first instead it usa gives permission to french governmant to use scalp missiles flying into russia.
bla bla hurray russia……. bla bla shit nato and bla bla. the fact that there is a threat of mass murder here doesn’t matter because there is nothing here about nuclear annihilation but rather about revenge, justice, victims and perpetrators etc.
annihilation is behind the next corner of europe and mass murder is in gaza
the usual retards ,they nuke everyone and they will stay for seeds lol …what kindcof people believe they would won a nuk war?only the russians trolls .
russia has total control over the polar region and missiles originated from there need only minutes to incinerate d.c. and thats all.
it’s going to be interesting to see the msm crying, the bonfire of western vanity and impunity… also, it will be exciting to see who and why, is the next target for the russian “nut cracker”.
ukrop patriot battery stationed at zhuliany airpoirt in kiev. iskander-m, khinzal or oreshnik with cluster warheads would destroy it completely. i’m sure russia also knows where patriot battery is in odessa, chernigov and lvov. time to put some cluster warheads on those hypersonic irbms and srbms and smash them. he warhead is good for hardened targets, not dispersed air defense batteries.
пора использовать кассетные боеголовки на хинзале, искандере-м и орешнике. уничтожить батарею patriot в киеве. вы знаете, где она.