Islamic Jihad Leader Detained By IDF In West Bank

BDS, BDS, BDS, BDS, BDS!

BDS! ;)

BDS, who has that helped??BDS has failed!

Then you have nothing to worry about!

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Nothing at all, Israel still becomes great and powerful. you BDS lots are idiots! You can start by boycotting phones and laptops, Israeli companies make parts that you ignorant fools use.

Why would I do that? I’m not a masochist. I will use my laptop and handhelds (most of them are Chinese or Japanese anyway) and anything else that my everyday life depends on and I couldn’t find a replacement yet (almost nothing), and sanction and replace anything else that I can spare or replace. Is it hypocritical? Not at all. My intention is not to help the occupation’s economy as much as I can and I achieve it this way.

BDS is great and it’s working. That’s why Zionists are freaking out and try to downplay it, but at the same time they try to pass bills which outlaws BDS. When the people affected by hurricane won’t receive relief until they sign a declaration that they don’t support BDS, it shows how effective it is.

Have fun with your name-callings, you Israel-firsters are all the same. This reply is not even intended for you. I just want anyone who reads these comments finds a suitable answer to your rants as well. ;)

You can smell a dumb liberal retard anywhere even when heshe comments.

If you meant me by that, perhaps your nose needs to be replaced? I’m far from being a liberal. Not as far as it can get, but far nonetheless. You can’t be a liberal and be against gay parades and mass refugee/immigration, can you?

May I suggest using words like Anti-Semite, freedom-hater and Israelophobe in your insults? Dumb, liberal and retard just don’t have the weight you need to channel your hate! Be my guest to use them if you feel so much a need to label me.

PS. Let’s not forget BDS!!

Fuck you and the BDS, I am not Jewish, and you must be a Muslim loving terrorist.

My my, you lost it, didn’t you? Which is it? Am I a “dumb liberal retard” or a “Muslim loving terrorist”? You know there’s a world of difference between the two.

I see I hit a nerve with BDS. Repeat as many times as you like that it’s useless and not working, but your response says otherwise!

Keep ’em coming champ. I like it when your ilk start cursing. No, I lied. I LOVE IT!

BDS is a joke! already failed at inception. Your likes are what is wrong with this world…When is your BDS when it comes to countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iran? all state sponsors of terrorism worldwide? Crimea was stolen by Russia and people are still killed in Ukraine???Assad has killed thousands of his people and yet you BDS lovers are silent…your’ll hypocrisy is astounding, I have no respect for people like you, you are dumb-ed down by your hate for Israel. I am no ZIonist or have any link to Israel but I am astounded by the hate the country gets from haters who want them annihilated and driven to the sea…If Arab had won the first war do you think Jews would be living in Israel? Iran, Hezbollah, Hama all have desires to wipe Israel off the map, what do you have to say about that Garga? Do you believe you would be start a BDS on all Arab countries on Israel’s behest??? and finally, And where are you from and why the hatred for Israel???

Hold your horses a minute. I am all the way with you on Saudi Arabia and Qatar sponsoring terror groups. BUT Which terror group does Iran sponsor? You need to present at least ONE terror group with ONE proven terror act. Is it too much to ask?

And again, you need to provide when and where “Assad has killed thousands of his people”. Is it too much to ask too?

You asked me about “Iran, Hezbollah, Hama all have desires to wipe Israel off the map”. Do you really want to know the answer or you just ask and don’t give s#it about the answer? If you’re serious to have a discussion and not just barking insults, I’ll answer you after you gave me the answer to the above two questions.

Iran sponsors Houthis, Hezobollah, Hamas, and several Shia terrorist groups in Syria, Iraq, Yemen.

Houthis, Illegal take over of the UN recognized president and recent killing of Saleh.

Hamas, Indoctrination from birth of Arab kids to cause destruction in Israel, building of tunnels and attack on Israeli civilian population.

Hezibollah, Illegal terrorists group causing destruction in Lebanon, kidnapping and assassinations. Hariri current President of Lebanon had to flee for his life due to intel on assassination threats from Hezobollah/Iran.

Now your turn.

Iran sponsors Hezbollah, yes, and Hezbollah is NOT a terror group. It’s a party and is in Lebanon’s government. Do not repeat the MSM nonsense to me. Please give me an example of ONE Hezbollah’s terror acts.

There’s no evidence linking Iran to sponsoring Houthis and Houthis also are NOT a terror group. There’s a war going on in Yemen and anybody able is fighting the invaders, including the Yemeni army. FYI, president Hadi (your UN recognized) resigned TWICE before the breaking of the war, which he illegally stretched his term over two years. Apart from their fight with Saudis and their gang, there’s no activity of Houthis outside the border of Yemen. If there is or was an act of terror by Houthis, kindly show me when and where it happened. I also very much like to see an evidence to link Houthis with Iran. Would you be so kind to show me?

Hamas is the official political body governing Gaza Strip, elected by an election monitored by UN.

In case of Hezbollah and Hamas, the bloodshed is the direct result of Israeli aggression. Are you forgetting how many times Israel attacked Lebanon and occupied it’s territory? Southern Lebanon was still under Israeli occupation until Hezbollah kicked them out and still occupies a part of Lebanon (Sheb’a farms) as well as Syria and Palestine. I guess you too wouldn’t be so kindly if somebody took your house by force (No, I’m not talking about the whole Israeli-Palestinian affair. I’m merely refer to 1967 borders). It’s a war and Israel by no means play nice. They kill a few Palestinians, Palestinians in turn kill a few of them and this ill cycle repeats.

Anyway, apart from fighting Israel, there’s no act of terror neither by Hamas nor Hezbollah. If I’m mistaken, kindly show me where.

Now I give you a few example of terror groups: ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Irgun and MEK (MKO). They are all active in their territory (if we can call that), kill civilians, kill soldiers and kill in other countries like in Europe. The first two are Wahhabi terror groups, counted as terrorists by ALL countries on earth, not some. The third one was a Jewish terror group, counted as one by ALL countries, including Israel. The fourth is an Iranian terror group, exclusively active in Iran and against Iranians with a record of more than 12,000 murder (all documented by the way, by their own declaration), listed as a terror group by ALL countries, including the US and France (where they have a annual conference).

To call a group as terrorist, they have to perform at least ONE terror act and admit doing so. You may not like Iran or Hezbollah, that’s your right, but for calling them what they’re not, you need to give proof. Do you think what I ask is fair and logical or not?

Sorry, like many times my reply was detected as spam. I’ll repost it in 3 parts: 1-

Iran sponsors Hezbollah, yes, and Hezbollah is NOT a terror group. It’s a party and is in Lebanon’s government. Do not repeat the MSM nonsense to me. Please give me an example of ONE Hezbollah’s terror acts.

There’s no evidence linking Iran to sponsoring Houthis and Houthis also are NOT a terror group. There’s a war going on in Yemen and anybody able is fighting the invaders, including the Yemeni army. FYI, president Hadi (your UN recognized) resigned TWICE before the breaking of the war, which he illegally stretched his term over two years.Apart from their fight with Saudis and their gang, there’s no activity of Houthis outside the border of Yemen. If there is or was an act of terror by Houthis, kindly show me when and where it happened. I also very much like to see an evidence to link Houthis with Iran. Could you be so kind to show me?

Hamas is the official political body governing Gaza Strip, elected by an election monitored by UN.

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In case of Hezbollah and Hamas, the bloodshed is the direct result of Israeli aggression. Are you forgetting how many times Israel attacked Lebanon and occupied it’s territory? Southern Lebanon was still under Israeli occupation until Hezbollah kicked them out and still occupies a part of Lebanon (Sheb’a farms) as well as Syria and Palestine. I guess you too wouldn’t be so kindly if somebody took your house by force (No, I’m not talking about the whole Israeli-Palestinian affair. I’m merely refer to 1967 borders). It’s a war and Israel by no means play nice. They kill a few Palestinians, Palestinians in turn kill a few of them and this ill cycle repeats.

Anyway, apart from fighting Israel, there’s no act of terror neither by Hamas nor Hezbollah. If I’m mistaken, kindly show me where.

Lolsss…Blame Israel for Muslim-Muslim violence and bloodshed you couldn’t have said any better… Lolsss..Sunnis and Shias have been killing each other after Ali and his family were butchered by fellow Muslims, Israel or Jews had no part in that.

You also forgot PLO was using Lebanon to attack Israel before Israel invaded, the destruction of PLO and Hezobollah forces in Lebanon has brought peace and quiet to that side of the Israel border.

You mentioned ” guess you too wouldn’t be so kindly if somebody took your house by force (No, I’m not talking about the whole Israeli-Palestinian affair. I’m merely refer to 1967 borders).”

My response is, you start a fight and plan to kick and kill a man who owns his house you should also be prepared to face whatever consequences if you fail!

That is how the world has been and would continue to be, the strong gets from the weak, a simple rule. Russia took Crimea, didn’t hear you crying about that.

And in war, no side plays nice, war is kill or be killed. The Israelis try to but they are only humans. If I am a soldier and I have a kid shooting at me, even if he is in a school, I would definitely shoot back because I plan on going home alive in one piece.

The tunnels dug and rocket fired at civilian population and the charter on annihilation of the Jews to me are terrorists activities.

Hezobollah is a bigger terrorists organisation.

Maybe you should my comment again. I didn’t blame Israel for inter-Muslim fights. Please read it again and then answer.

Based on your response, you believe in not the rights, but the rule of power. The strongest prevail and screw with the weaker, right? My understanding of your response is that you have no problem with the man who attacks other man’s house, your problem is only when he is not strong enough to kill or silence the owner quickly? Then there’s no point in talking if your whole belief system is based on that.

Crimea was not in our discussion, if you want to talk about it we can do it another time, but it’s different as Russia didn’t invade Crimea and didn’t kill Crimeans like Israel does and Palestinians didn’t vote to be part of Israel like Crimeans with Russia. If you wish we continue on this later on.

You can call them whatever you want, but to prove your point you need to provide an example of their terror acts. What is Hezbollah’s terror act?

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Now I give you a few example of terror groups: ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Irgun and MEK (MKO). They are all active in their territory (if we can call that), kill civilians, kill soldiers and kill in other countries like in Europe. The first two are Wahhabi terror groups, counted as terrorists by ALL countries on earth, not some. The third one was a Jewish terror group, counted as one by ALL countries, including Israel. The fourth is an Iranian terror group, exclusively active in Iran and against Iranians with a record of more than 12,000 murder (all documented by the way, by their own declaration), listed as a terror group by ALL countries, including the US and France (where they have a annual conference).

To call a group as terrorist, they have to perform at least ONE terror act and admit doing so. You may not like Iran or Hezbollah, that’s your right, but for calling them what they’re not, you need to give proof. Do you think what I ask is fair and logical or not?

Hamas is a terrorists organisation, maybe you should read this article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/hamas-terrorist-organisation-ecj-european-court-of-justice-eu-uk-palestinian-israel-a7860301.html

The Irgun does not exist and was disbarred more than 50 years ago, nice try though comparing apples to pineapples, they might have near similar names but they aint same fruit.

I read the article. Still remains for you to show me their act of terror other than their war with Israel.

Irgun is among the examples of terror groups. I presented you with terror groups from Wahhabi, Jewish and Iranian origin, and that’s your understanding?

Killing and kidnapping civilians in any book is war?That my friend is terrorism. Ok then, if you say it is war then why cry why Israel retaliates? you called it war and war involves killing, or you think war is men holding hands singing Akuna mata?

Hamas where known to use suicide bombers before Israel built the wall.

It’s a war and they fight with anything they got, which is not much. It’s the same thing the Americans did to the British empire in their war of independence and the same thing various Europeans did to SS and Wehrmacht during the Nazi occupation. Is it so different? A group of natives to a land, under occupation fighting back.

The difference here between your view and mine is that you see Israel’s actions as retaliation and I see Palestinians’ as retaliation. The whole cycle is wrong and unfortunately continues as long as Israel doesn’t get back to the ’67 borders and doesn’t stop expansion in occupied lands (occupied based on the UN, not my own liking).

If you want to know more, you can take a look on the numbers of the dead on each side and look how many of them are civilians or soldiers/combatants. Killing civilians is NOT something that I defend. Killing unarmed women and children regardless of their nationality, ethnicity and religion is condemned.

War is between soldiers/combatants, not between armies and civilians. My own problem with Israel’s actions is this.

OK I agree partly to what you wrote, but I believe you should also look at the Israeli point of view too, they are hated and have been under the rule of Muslims and have been treated as second class citizens having to pay the tax Jizya. Now they have come back to the land God promised them.

Israel can never go back to 67 borders because her population has increased since that time and continues to grow and naturally, no country gives back land they won through blood, they would want something back in exchange like the Sinai deal which Israel gave back to Egypt for peace.

Israel have offered Palestinians deals before, even moving back to 67 borders but the Palestinians have rejected them all, now it seems they might most likely not get anything in future if they can’t get a deal now…the world is tired of the Israeli-Palestinians conflict and in future would care less what happens, we can all see the trend occurring right in our eyes, The Palestinians would be better off becoming Israeli citizens or moving over to Jordan or Egypt.

Gaza is a dump, Hamas have done nothing right in Gaza but caused destruction and death! They are corrupt and incompetence

1- Because I think my reply will be a long one and Disqus will see it as a spam, I’ll cut it into parts starting with numbers, please read them in order. I apologize in advance because I know it’s not easy to read a long answer.

Peter, do you know what a Jaziya is? Before explaining it, I should point out that it’s not common in any Muslim country to ask for Jaziya anymore.

By religious law, basically any citizen of a Muslim government pays tax. Muslims’ tax is named “Zakat” (means growth out of blessing/cleaning) and “Khoms” (means one-fifth or %20) and non-Muslims’ tax is named Jaziyah. The amount of this tax is different for different valuables but eventually all will pay almost the same amount. Please also notice that based on that law, non-Muslims were exempt from drafting/military service and defence. Nowadays all citizens pay the same tax (income tax and value-added tax) and all have to do their military service, regardless of religion. I will explain further each kind’s amount and comparison if you’re interested.

Nice comments and thank you for the time writing them all up.

I have no Jewish friends but do have Muslims friends and sometimes I discuss with them what is going on in Israel,naturally they support Palestinians which to me is a little biased.

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I have read alot on Jaziya, it was primitive and was a type of discrimination against non Muslims whom do not share the same rights as Muslims, some Muslim majority countries still have this system in place countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran where non Muslims are not welcomed.

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I understand the Jews rejected Jesus as the Messiah, I have no bone about that, and regarding the Jews point of view, that is actually good, is it there opinion and they have a right to that but majority want a homeland.

Creation of Israel was prophecised, it is in the Bible, so Christains believe Gid had a hand by weilding the hand of men to accomplish this.

During the Yum Kippor war or six days war, The Arabs massed at Israeli border with the intent of killing and driving Israel to the sea, they sent messages to the Arab population in Israel to leave, most fled with rejoicing, the Jews stayed and fought and won. Now, naturally, the ones that left decided to come back but Israel did not want them back which I understand looking from the point of the Israelis, they lost the right to the land the day they left, rejoicing that the Jews would be driven away. As a reasonable man, I support the action the Israeli took in allowing those that fled not to come back.

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I agree with your comments here, there should be rule of law countries must abide by. But this conflict but i disagree “who told them to give their blood for a land which wasn’t theirs in the first place?” The land belonged to Jews, the Arabs are the invaders, the Muslim army invaded from Arabia, raping, killing and pillaging as they conquered city after city. The middleastern Jews deserve to live in a state where they would have full citizen rights. Well known confirmed European Jews, African Jews, Asia Jews who speak Hebrew must be welcomed to the state of Israel, they are part of the lost tribe of Israel.

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The Muslim Arabs don’t want Israel to exist, that has been its stance from when Isreal became a country till date that is why they rejected all peace talks. Iran, Hezobollah, Hamas clearly wants Israel wiped off the map, what have you got to say about that? The right of return was a sticky point, if the Palestinians return them they become a majority, which is unacceptable in achieving a Jewish state, Saudi Arabia with all its billions can absorb them like how Europe and the West is taking in Syria refugees, why can’t they take in the palestinians as full citizens? The GCC is full of very rich countries why are they shitting on the palestinians? It is very obvious Israel would never have them back beceuase that would be like shooting onself in the foot!

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Voilence beget Voilence, shooting rockets into civilian population isnt going to get them sympathy from the UN espectially when they get beat, Egypt also closed border with Gaza for a very very good reason, terrorism!

You conviniently left out Egypt having a closed border too, Israel is the most demonised country on earth after North Korea. It is really a case of hypocirsy of the hightest proportion the world has ever seen.

My point is, Hamas caused whatever falls on its head and they are dragging the population down the toilet.

You’re welcome. That’s interesting. I have much more Jewish friends than Arab Sunni friends. 1- That’s simply not true. I suggest if you want to know about something, get your information from the source.

2- That shows the choosing of Palestine to create Israel was not a religious and prophecised act, but a political one. Their own religion rejects it. 3- You know Jews lived there 2000 years ago and then they didn’t (as a ruling power at least) anymore? Does that give right to anybody? Does the US government (and people) feel the same about the redskin Indians who they took the land from? You know half of Asia belonged to Iran up to two centuries ago, do Iranians have a claim on Georgia or Afghanistan? Or Jerusalem, which Iranians gave to Jews! 4- Not at all. If Iran wanted to wipe the Israel off, they would do something hostile, which they didn’t. They never attacked, never assassinated any Israeli and even didn’t send a spy drone (Which Israel did against Iran). Acts speak louder than words. Hezbollah too never attacked Israel, they only defend. Oh, Do you remember I asked for an example of Hezbollah’s terror acts? Or Hamas? Did you find anything? And about “wiping off them map”. Did you know Iranians NEVER said that? That’s among the reasons I advised you to receive info from the source. Anyway, Palestine don’t belong to Israel, and it’s unthinkable to kick Palestinians out. Two state is the way to go. 5- That’s what I say. The violence started by Israelis (by grabbing more than half of Gaza strip) and it is in the ill cycle now. NONE of the two are willing to let go of it, don’t think for a second Israelis are better than Gazans! I didn’t forget Egypt, I didn’t name any country blockading Gaza at all.

That’s not true either. There’s a close tie between Iran and NK for the title of most demonized country. Israel is not even third. In fact you can’t even criticize Israel in a lot of countries.

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Regarding the promised land, if by that you meant from a religious point of view, please notice that the most devout Jews are against having a country, strictly based on their religion’s teachings (they believe it is forbidden for Jews to have a country before appearance of Meshiah and no, Jews don’t count Jesus as Christ or Meshiah). I encourage you to not taking my word for it and actually talking to practicing and devout Jews about this.

If you read the history of Israel’s creation, it had nothing to do with god and everything with the British empire’s deal with prominent Zionists of late 19th and early 20th century. In short, they gave Palestine (which was not part of their empire) to them in exchange for some services (they planned to give them parts of [today day] Kenya initially, not Palestine)

Anyway, this land as you pointed out, was acquired by blood, from BOTH sides. Natives of this land gave much much more blood than immigrated Jews. What you say is also true for them.

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Regarding Israel “can’t” go back to the ’67 borders, if we take that road, Rule of strength (or law of jungle), then international law and order becomes meaningless. It was norm up until the 20th century but since the creation of UN, such order is not acceptable anymore from any party. That’s a Pandora box which if opened, there’s no putting the Jinni back into the bottle. Plus, if we go down that road, none of international laws or agreements will worth the paper it’s written on and it can’t be selective, meaning we accept some and ignore others.

Plus, who told them to give their blood for a land which wasn’t theirs in the first place? Middle Eastern Jews lived in Palestine and were natives, I’m not talking about them, I’m talking about migrating European Jews.

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Palestinian authorities initially asked for the ’48 borders, later they gave up hope on that and demanded the ’67 borders. If you follow the Israeli/Palestinian peace talks, it wasn’t Palestinian side which demanded more than their share (based on the UN ruling), on the contrary they faced with an impossible to accept deal which they naturally couldn’t accept. Later on (after Camp David) they lowered their demands (again based on UN) by each round of talks and it was Israel who rejected them ALL. To this too, I ask you not to take my word, read it for yourself.

Do you know at the moment there are about 2.5million Palestinian Israeli citizens, which can’t vote? Is it the condition that you think they’re better with? And why should they leave their homes, and go to another country? (by the way, there are currently millions of Palestinians in Jordan with the same conditions, meaning no rights whatsoever)

5- And about Gaza, you’re right. Dump is a very weak word to describe it but I seriously doubt any other body could govern it better than Hamas with the same conditions which they face.

You asked me to see things through Israeli eyes. That’s a great advice as it’s impossible to evaluate a situation without putting yourself in each side’s shoes. I sometimes discuss it with my Jewish friends, I invite you to do the same regarding Palestinians. Just think some foreigners came, killed a few of your relatives and drive you out of your house, now you live in walled dump named Gaza Strip, with the conditions which you probably know.

Thank you for your patience and the time you put into this discussion.

The same thing that happens about “Macedonia”.

The countries that don’t recognize Israel are the Islamic and the communist ones!

America and few European countries recognize Israel and ISIS states because Israel and ISIS have put their feet on their tails.

But in near future no one will recognize these disgusting global terrorist Israel state and ISIS state.

You are on a hallucination.

Israeli terrorist always spreading so much disinformations that whole world communities make confuse.

Israel is against ISIS.

Israel support Mujahideen, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, SDF, YPG, FSA and so on. I am not saying but MSM.

Greeks, Romans, Phoenicians, Aramaics, Jews, Persians have all passed from Palestine but Arabs want everything on their own.

Have you seen any other race around Palestine except arab? No because that is land of Arab. I am not saying but thousands years history says. It is like somebody fixe a tiny piece of carpet in the short or a donkey in the flock of thousands of sheeps.

Arabs belong in the desert, they all need to be deported there ASAP. The terrorist prince Arafat was born Egyptian go figure!

Palestine was also a desert then what Israhell terrorists are doing there? Israhell should have to go back to their countries from where they have intruded into Palestine.