Israel and Iran: Inching Toward Armed Conflict

you can’t stop israel!

Even if Israel effectively bombed Iran, Iran would have unlimited excuse for attacking Israel and its accomplices. It would make Israel a very hard place to live and stretch its military as it would need to be constantly alert for random attacks, much more effective and sneaky than Hezbollah is capable of. In the end its a no-win situation for the both of them. Hopefully saner minds prevail in Israel.

Israeli, Turkish, US and UK armies are hiding behind terrorists. They have hostage whole Syrian nation. Syrian and Russian armies are eliminating their hideouts from Syria. This will bring ever lasting peace, prosperity, strength to Syria.

I think any attack on Iran from Israel will almost certainly be followed by American involvement. In the past I think the USA had a slight retaining effect on Israeli military intentions. Now I think all that is gone and there are those in the USA just itching to attack Iran and any excuse will do.

Iran needs the S-400. Do it Putin, give the S-400 to Iran.

Yes and Iran naturally will wait for israel to attack and do all the article is saying while praying and not reacting. Back to reality, by the time all this attacks they dreaming like is a prearranged war game as the scenarios the americans and allies play on video games, reach iran it is more than likely, israel will cease to exist.

The same goes for all american bases within range of iranian missiles. Lets hope israstupid will stop farting and stinging the place and attempt to do what they farting about.

If i remember correctly, Iran was joining the Eurasian Union and the SCO in February 2018. What happened to that.

Israel doesn’t need in flight refulling. They have base’s in SDF/US controlled Kurd territory – East of der-Azur. Israel has radar ‘spoofed’ practically every Middle east country. Trump is itching to get involved even boots on the grouund in Iran.

US has become openly hostile toward Tehran, Russia, China, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Venezuela, Pakistan, North Korea and the list goes on…………….. There is a much longer list where the US/NATO endangers those countries surrounding them including South Korea, Japan, Guam, Australia, all of Europe, Greece (is there no other reason for those seeking defense outside of US Empire?) and again the list goes on.

The script has been written many times through out history and it never ends well for Empire or those civilians of all concerned. The bubble will burst soon. The only Question is who will survive and the struggles to endure.

As if israel can beat Iran !!! XD. israel is willing their american and sunni slaves to do the job for them. israelis can’t even beat Hezbollah !!!!

Israel won’t waste time ; Jews are ruthless and will not tolerate defeat, especially when they have 2000 nukes at the ready and itchy trigger fingers. They want Greater Israel, and typical of Jews, they are not going to let anyone or anything stop them from achieving their JWO goals and the complete ruling of the Goy and the utter elimination of the Christian population. Dystopia is headed our way, thanks to the lovely, kind, giving, sharing, supportive Jews. Such big hearts these aliens have, don’t they ?

israel is just barking so that Americans get involved in the process and the west sees Iran as a target. Of course, sunnis see Iran as a target because they just hate shias even if destroying Iran will absolutely not make their shitty life better (it can even make it worst) because sunnis are responsible of their shitty life because they are so stupid and bad people who can’t think.

a totally bogus pseudo-analytical mop towel piece of a confused thinking ;

and you assume those flying lemons would cover 3000kms without detection from either iraqi, russian or syrian AADs ? and you assume upon detection, the iranians won’t be tipped ? and what then ? and those air refueling crafts will be lurking the skies unscathed ??? utter lunacy !

tell you what would happen ! any detection of a sizable formation of israeli or any supposed enemy crafts would trigger iran response, which would consist first of a saturating missile attack on israel (probably from syria) followed by another equally massive missile attacks against vital targets on the entire Israeli territory (from iran an syria) ; make no mistake, no single plane would be able to return from such a mission, as syria and iraq would certainly join the anti aerial hunt and shootout !

iran has built an extensive network of intelligence services and proxy groupings across the region (thanks to stupid zio-american policies in ME) and all of these will join the battle and will surely fight to subvert their respective countries to close ranks with iran !

and what would Israel have for allies ? ksa and uae ?, who can’t even defeat bare-footed houthis ? jordanians ? turks ? egyptians ? simply forget about any arab joining a war on the side of israel against muslims ; it’d simply be political suicide for the leaders in question (just look at the condemnations of Mr Orange Trump statement on Jerusalem) ; and what about the acclaimed american ally ? where do you think they’ll build logistics and get the numbers ? how will they be able to cope with a certain and complete closure of the Hormuz strait, even temporally ? forget about the Al Udeid airbase in qatar, its hangars will go in flames and its runways will become impractical in the very first 5 seconds of the alarm ;

from that point on, forget about conventional war, israel and the americans aren’t in any position to prevail under today circumstances, with the resistance axis having unprecedented political weight in lebanon, iraq, syria, yemen (and certainly clandestinely in jordan) under cross-regional coordination of localized irgc ; with a Hezbollah growing much more stronger in tactics, missiles and manpower, also with battle-hardened syrians, not to mention the PMUs, and add to that the freedom all those groups enjoy in looming the region (thanking again the USofWar policies) ; and while air supremacy will never be assured for the americans left alone the israelis … so, from that point on, only nuclear strikes would prevent the inevitable defeat and even israel wouldn’t survive those strikes ! as I suspect, iranians short of a proper nuke, wouldn’t fail to get dirty bombs !

so to cut the bs, war between iran and israel will never happen, it would be a regional human cataclysm which would wipe out the hydrocarbon production of the region and the banksters behind all these shenanigans wouldn’t allow that, not to mention the unpredictable political fallouts (including the potential overdue genuine revolutions in the west).

Rubbish really. Wishful thinking Israel can do much damageIsrael will be fighting for their dear lives as to Iran’s assets. More likely as Israel daces the onslaught of ASSAD’s forces, Hez, Iraqi pmu, Hamas, and unlimited Iranian forces thru the land corridor.

Iran’s assets are practically unreachable much less by a few planes that have limited air time over Iran if not all shot down.

Yes Iran can invade Israel but tiny Israel can only pray….not even fight back as once inside Israel nukes can’t be used

The jews that control 99.9% of the media you read tell two gigantic WHOPPERS.

1) America is at risk of going to war with N Korea. 2) Israel considers direct military strikes on Iran.

Why do they use these lies on you? Cos most of you are so naive you want to see EVIL in the stupidest way possible- so this weakness is trivially turned against you.

N Korea is an AMERICAN construct. After WW2, the USA propped up the extreme right-wing regime of Japan, directly exterminating all grass roots socialist movements that attempted to flourish in the ruins of Japan. Korea was the SLAVE state of Japan, and when Japan could no longer continue the occupation of Korea, America agreed to level the entire nation and set it back many decades.

The Korean war that followed WW2 made the atrocities of Japan in China seem like an angel’s kiss by comparison. America mass murdered millions and destroyed everything of value and Japan’s rulers were HAPPY.

Now Iran. Israel wants Iran neutered, and doesn’t care how many Iranians are murdered to satisfy this goal. But Israel will never ever initiate a hot war with Iran- NEVER. Even if an hot war made sense for Israel (hint- it does NOT), only Israel’s nukes and plague weapons could ensure victory, but their use would lead to Pakistan nuking Israel. A jewish nuclear strike on any muslim nation would instantly unite all muslims on the planet.

Southfront has recently had its editorial staff invaded by (hidden) zionists- hence the dribble of this article. The coming Iran war, like Tony Blair’s Kosovo war, Invasion of Iraq, and destruction of Libya, is going to be an affair of the Empire of the West.

Canada, America, France, Germany, Britain and many lesser powers are poised to strike Iran once an excuse is discovered. They have bases recently built all across the Middle East. The British RAF, for instance, has the biggest base in its history located in Saudi Arabia- currently used to bomb Yemen.

But the ‘coalition’ that declares war on Iran will no more include Israel than it did when Blair invaded Iraq. Please get smarter, guys. Know the zionists spread their lies on our sites too.

Russia is attempting to meddle in carefully crafted US/Israeli war plans against Iran, but this time they’re using Russian diplomats to do the meddling – this is an outrage! Stop interfering with the US/Israeli supreme sovereign right to proactively kill people and destroy nations to protect themselves from imaginary threats. Well, protect Israel. Nobody wants to invade the US anymore. its turned into a bit of a… what’s the word I’m looking for?

America and Israel are a Damnation for the World

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https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/02/22/99894/

How the US Bullies North Korea, 1945-Present

by T.J. COLES

For more than seven decades, US policymakers and military strategists have bullied, intimidated and ultimately tried to isolate the self-professed Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (a.k.a., North Korea). It is particularly instructive to examine official Congressional, CIA and Pentagon sources relating to North Korea’s motivations. These often paint a much more honest picture of events than mainstream media.

The official sources, conspicuously absent from mainstream US and European media, strongly and consistently suggest that threats and aggression on the part of Western countries, in this case the USA, are met with threats and aggression by weaker states; in this case, North Korea. From this we learn that if we want peace or at least de-escalation, it pays to pursue diplomacy and to stick to international agreements. We also learn that US elites are committed to global military domination at any cost, not to peace.

THE SECOND WORLD WAR & THE KOREAN WAR

The current period of US-North Korea relations began at the close of World War II. Korea had already faced external threats, having been under brutal Japanese occupation, beginning 1910. A recent US Defense Department report, says: “[NK’s] threat perceptions are shaped by a legacy of guerrilla warfare dating back to its anti–colonial struggle against the Japanese, political and economic isolation, experience during wartime, and a political culture that is defined by an unending existential struggle with outside forces.” If the assessment is correct, we learn that aggression leads to escalation.

Before the end of the Second World War, the US had plotted to take over Japan’s regional empire. The Cairo Conference 1943 said of Korea: “in due course, Korea shall become free and independent”, which means a satellite of the US, as indeed history shows; at least with regards to the South (or Republic of Korea). By the end of the war, the US had developed unprecedented, destructive technology, the atomic bomb, which was demonstrated twice; once in Hiroshima and again in Nagasaki, to show the world that the US was the new imperial power. Around 70% of Japan was destroyed, much of it from carpet bombing, even before the atomic bombs were dropped.

With Japan defeated, Stalin, arguably in accordance with the Cairo treaty, invaded Japanese Manchuria, which included parts of what is now North Korea, and sided with the anti-Japanese guerrilla, Kim Il-sung. Supposedly in an effort to stop Soviet advances, the US imposed an arbitrary demarcation line, which is why there are two separate countries, North Korea and South Korea today.

Soviet archives reviewed by US scholars at the Woodrow Wilson Center suggest that “from February 1945 to April 1950 Stalin did not aim to gain control over the entire peninsula.” Stalin, according to the records, assumed that the US would seek control over Japan’s territories. A declassified CIA assessment of troop movements in the North in January 1950, says that the North Korean movements were “probably a defensive measure to offset the growing strength of the offensively minded South Korean Army (sic).”

This is in accord with the Defense Department report quoted earlier, which says that North Korea’s threat assessments are shaped by its sense of external vulnerability. It also adds weight to the idea that if you threaten people, they tend to respond.

In response to the North’s invasion of the South, the US-dominated United Nations Security Council adopted resolutions 84 and 85, which appear to have authorized the use of force under a United Nations Command. The UN Command was almost entirely made up of US forces, who unleashed what they describe as “burn[ing] down every town in North Korea … Over a period of three years or so, we killed off … twenty percent of the population of Korea as direct casualties of war, or from starvation and exposure,” to quote General Curtis LeMay. Dean Rusk, who served in Truman’s State Department, said: “We were bombing with conventional weapons,” meaning non-nuclear, “everything that moved in North Korea, every brick standing on top of another.”

This destroyed about 90% of the country, proportionally even more than the US had destroyed in Japan, including with the use of two atomic bombs. There were calls from some quarters to use nuclear weapons against Korea. Sir Peter Roberts, a Tory politician from Sheffield, UK, told Parliament in 1950: “if the North Korean Government refuse to consider [a peace] resolution will the Prime Minister [Clement Attlee] advise his representative in the United Nations to ask for the use of the atomic bomb … upon the capital of North Korea?”, drawing gasps from fellow MPs.

PHASES 1 & 2: “A DECADE OF RELATIVE QUIET”

In 1956, the US, in violation of the Armistice Agreement, considered the possibility of positioning nuclear weapons in the South. North Korea responded by building huge, subterranean bunkers to survive the possibility of annihilation from the US. It also sought nuclear materials from the Soviets. This began, unofficially, Phase 1 of US-South Korea military build-ups in the region, which North Korea perceived as a threat.

The first exercises took place between 1955 and 1957 (Autumn Season and Spring Shower). Others included Counterblow and Strong Shield. They incorporated counterinsurgency operations, due to the fact that North Korea had some ideological support in the South, among the population, not the government, and North Korea conducted frequent infiltration operations into the South.

Why did significant numbers of South Koreans support the North? According to the CIA, the North was developing socioeconomically in ways unseen in the South under a US-backed dictatorship. To quote a report from 1967: “excellent progress towards … rapid industrialization and the achievement of a high degree of self-sufficiency … aroused admiration among some South Koreans.”

And so began Phase 2: North Korea reacted to US-South Korean developments by engaging in provocations against the South. Kim Il-sung decided to relocate the armed forces closer to South Korea, to the Demilitarized Zone. The US-South Korea exercises, now called Focus Lens (or Focus Retina) began in 1968 and included long-range US flights designed to demonstrate rapid US force deployment.

During the late-1960s and well into the early-1980s, the North launched a series of cross-border raids, including assassination attempts and terrorism, such as hijacking South Korean airlines. Again, we learn that threats and violence are met with more of the same. The CIA report quoted above also explains that North Korea acted when it did in order to deter aggression from the USA: “more than a decade of relative quiet [followed the Korean War, but] the war in Vietnam probably caused North Korea to act when it did … [North Korea] has … been apprehensive that the conflict in Southeast Asia might spread to China and thence ultimately to Korea.”

It is also interesting to note that the CIA acknowledges “relative quiet,” so we might have expected US-South Korea military exercises to decline in scale and frequency, but that didn’t happen. Instead, Phase 3 began.

PHASES 3 & 4: “LIMITED PROVOCATIONS” & DETERRENCE

Former US serviceman and Pentagon analyst, Robert Collins, writes that between 1976 and 1991, there was “an increase in the size of combined [South Korea]-US exercises.” Operation Focus Lens became an integrated exercise combing the South Korean government. The new exercise Team Spirit was introduced in 1976. By the late ‘80s Team Spirit had grown in force participation, from 100,000 to over 200,000 US-South Korean troops. Collins says: “Because of its size, Team Spirit became a major concern for the North Koreans.” North Korea speeded up its nuclear programme, with assistance from the Soviet Union. So, again we learn that threats have consequences.

On the positive side, the ‘90s began a new phase of slightly relaxed US-North Korea relations, as US war planners and strategists realized that North Korea could not be stamped on. “Slightly relaxed” because the evidence shows that the US violated every one of its treaty obligations with North Korea.

In 1992, North and South Korea signed the Joint Declaration on the Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. Initially, North Korea lived up to its side of the agreement, but the George H. W. Bush administration rejected North Korea’s offer to allowed UN inspectors to examine part of its programme. Specialist Leon V. Sigal of Arms Control Today says:

For a country supposedly intent on obtaining nuclear weapons, [North Korea’s] self-restraint seems difficult to explain. One possible explanation is that, starting in 1990 or 1991, North Korea was trying to trade in its weapons program for what it thought it needed more—security, political and economic ties with the United States … [Quoting further:] Washington entered into talks only with extreme reluctance, and even then it was unwilling to specify what it would give North Korea in return for abandoning its nuclear arms program.

Under the US-North Korea Agreed Framework (1994), the US was obliged to replace North Korea’s graphite nuclear reactor with light-water plants. It never did. By 2001, George W. Bush was in power and all talk of negotiations was for whimps. In his state of the union address in January 2002, Bush labelled North Korea part of the “axis of evil,” along with Iran and Iraq. Scholars at the Wood Wilson Center write: “Faced with such a clear and present danger,” i.e., the United States, “Pyongyang did what most countries [sic] under similar circumstances would do,” namely it turned to developing weapons of mass destruction. They go on to say that “ ‘evil’ is something to be destroyed, not something to negotiate with. Indeed, the Bush administration has boxed itself—and North Korea—into a corner.”

Phase 4 begins; the current phase of US-South Korea exercises, only this time with a supposedly nuclear capable North. This continued well into the Obama years, by which time North Korea had developed and tested—or at least claims to have tested—nuclear weapons. By then Kim’s son, Kim Jong-il had long been in power, and through state-media explained that North Korea developed nuclear weapons as a deterrent against potential US aggression.

Remarkably, even the annual US Defense Department threat assessments to Congress agree. The documents also refer to North Korea’s provocative actions and media statements as minor, which contradicts Western media hoopla concerning the latest leader, Kim Jong-un and the portrayal of him as a madman. They go on to talk about North Korea’s deterrent to US aggression.

To quote the Pentagon in 2015: “North Korea uses limited provocations — even those that are kinetic and lethal in nature, such as military actions and small-scale attacks.” The report also explains why exactly North Korea engages in “limited provocations,” namely “to gain psychological advantage in diplomacy and win limited political and economic concessions.” With regards to its alleged possession of nuclear weapons, the same report says:

“North Korea’s national military strategy … relies heavily on deterrence, strategically through its nuclear weapons program and supporting delivery systems and conventionally by maintaining a large, heavily-armed, forward-deployed military that presents a constant threat to South Korea, especially the greater Seoul metropolitan area.”

CONCLUSION

As Western media ludicrously claim that the US under Trump is committed to “negotiating” with North Korea, the same media that make a killing analysing Trump’s lies let Secretary of State Rex Tillerson get away (keeping a straight face) with saying that peace talks with North Korea are contingent on North Korea’s initial commitment to “complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula”; in other words, they are contingent on North Korea’s giving up its sole deterrent. The CNN interviewer never asked what right the US has to demand anything of North Korea, nor did she point out that the US stations weapons, including likely nuclear weapons, in the region. Under Democrats, Republicans or far-right extremists like Trump, the US project for Full Spectrum Dominance continues…

This article is adapted from a talk given to Cambridge Stop the War Coalition in the UK in January 2018.

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Dr. T. J. Coles is director of the Plymouth Institute for Peace Research and the author of several books, including Voices for Peace (with Noam Chomsky and others) and the forthcoming Fire and Fury: How the US Isolates North Korea, Encircles China and Risks Nuclear War in Asia (both Clairview Books).

Even the US scumbs dare not to touch Iran.. so, just forget about the small fries barkings..! Unless if they really wants Haifa, Hellaviv & Dimona burned down and flattened to the ground..and jeopardized the greater israhell earlier..? either way.. at the end of the day, israhell will be burned and flattened down one way or another.. and that’s a promise from the Muslims by the Muslims..!

I must take this moment to disclose that Israel has for over a year now been working on developing weapons that can be carried externally on it’s upcoming F-35’s (now delivered) that will remain stealth themselves. That is part of their rationalization of their F-35 group is Israel wants external weapons to remain stealth. If this program has had any success at all I do not know. But I do know that Israel has been working on this project before they ever received any F-35’s, I knew about this back in 2016.

This article reads like it was written about 3 years ago in 2015 when Israel was threatening to attack Iran as Obama was negotiating the nuclear arms deal. It was just recycled for today’s news.

Not mentioned in this article is the fact that Israel can only attack Iran if it is able to use it’s US supplied JDAM 2000 pound GPS guided bombs. These bombs can be released (and tossed at 40k feet) as far as 40 miles from the heavily defended targets. They simply glide to the target at little risk to the pilot.

And, back in 2015, Israel did not attack Iran because Obama withheld the permission (and the keys) to use our military grade GPS guidance system for those JDAM bombs. These bombs don’t work with regular commercial grade GPS. Thus, Israel’s JDAM bombs, the only realistic weapon it has to use against the well defended Iranian hardened targets, are useless if it does not have this permission.

Does anyone think for one minute that the US military Joint Chiefs is going to give Israel the GPS “keys” to start WWIII, to take out another of Israel’s enemies when they know full well that the US will ultimately do all of the fighting and the dying for Israel.

In all of these endless wars to make the Middle East safe for Israel, there has never been an Israeli lost in combat. But, the death toll among Americans is now over 9,000.

Do you think the US Joint Chiefs are not painfully aware of this fact? ….

How does this little Psychopathic Criminal Freehaven ZionaziLand (that only knows how to fight stonethrowing kids), think them can win from experienced and Battlehardened Soldiers?….. Israel keep your fingers at the Button…. because if you want to win, I’m afraid that’s your only option…..Fruitcakes….

It is clear why the US servants of Israel do not want Iraq to buy the Russian S400; to allow the Zionist planes to pass unscathed.

The writer of this piece of junk, Peter Korzan should surely change his medication. A few hundred Hezbollah fighters beat the crap out of the child killing Israelis some years ago and sent them screaming back to their mums and dads. Can you imagine what the might of iran is capable of doing to them? Israel, you have good reason to worry! Your crimes against humanity is not too far in the reckoning– and you will pay dearly for your greed. Be afraid! Very afraid!