Creation Of Greater Kurdistan Will Contribute To Stability In Middle East – Former Deputy Chief of Israeli General Staff

Haha in Turkey? You having a laugh? Aint going to happen.

I’d be interested to hear the logic of how stealing land from four nations and giving it to violent, illiterate peasants will improve stability, maybe he means the stability of the fascist regime in Tel Aviv as they will find it easier to coerce Israelis into supporting their losing cause with total war on their doorstep?

SO IT MEANS BARZANI/PYD/ASYAISH IS WORKING ON ISRAELI TYPE AGANDA TO GRAB LAND STEAL RESAOURCE. AND GIVE TO ZIONIST. AND TALKING ABOUT SATABILITY AFTER GREATER KURDISTAN. GRETAER ISRAEL IS DOOMED SO NOW ANOTHER PATH ISRAEL IS USING KURDS FOR THIER PROJECT. TURKEY/IRAN IRAQ AND SYRIA WILL FINISH THAT EXPANSION AGAENDA OF KURDS IF KURDS PUSH THIS COUNTRY TOMUCH IN THE CORNER.

An independent Kurdistan would basically function as a 2nd Zionist state in the Middle East.

Stability for greater Israel thats about it, Israel is the only ethno state on the planet yet jews are always promoting anti-white multicultural agendas in the west, people are begining to notice this hypocracy, Kurdestan will be one more ethno state, If European countries are not allowed to be white anymore why the hell should Israel be allowed to be jewish or Kurdestan Kurdish?

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omg they smoking some kind of khat or used truck tyre in in Isreal ?!! “Creation Of Greater Kurdistan Will Contribute To Stability In Middle East” lol exacty the opposite is true^^ But let them and few kurdish rats keep dreemin..

Why is Armenian territory on this fakemap of “kurdish” fake state?

This is death sentence for kurdish backstabbers. Let turkey take them out, RUS and IR even dont have to do the dirty work. Erdogan will do it. Or in an another possible scenario the syrian kurds will finally find out that they are syrians, and want to remain in the syrian State. I think kurds are very fractinionited about that question, and the zionist dreamers are just a minority inside the ypg. Maybe a little clutch of people inside the political and not the military ranks of ypg. And such a thing called “SDF” doesnt exist.

I think a unified kurdish state in all of Kurdistan in the next decade is highly unlikely.

Unlikely as there will be opposition from all the present states and as there is no general political will among kurds to have a unified kurdish state. At present the two main kurdish parties in Turkey and Syria strive for autonomy or a federal state within their present countries. Only the KRG does want to become an independent country, and they are likely to succeed. Iran is a somewhat special case.

As for Syria, Northern Syria is not uniformely kurdish and the PYD has made political alliances with Arabs and Syriacs, striving for a federal state. Only if Assad were to be as foolish as to start a general attack on Northern Syria, I can see an independent Northern Syria. If he does not, there will be, at some point, a workable agreement.

Turkey will take longer to resolve but at some time, there either will be some kind of federation or an ugly divorce. The way Erdogan has been acting as from 2015, an ugly divorce is getting likelier.

He obviously has never read the book “How to make friends and influence people” – if the above article is correct he has alienated Syria and Iraq, whilst infuriating Iran and Turkey.

Truly mind-boggling. I have a feeling they are in panic mode.

This is what the Israelis were always after. Syria and Iraq won’t put up with that. Golan is what we call a dipstick.

que les pregunten a los turcos que opinan de ese mapa

I wonder how they would enjoy a Great Palestina state… Is a very generous idea to give land FROM OTHERS.

Almost 15 years ago to the day, another former Israeli official and self proclaimed “Middle East expert” , a guy with fake comb over we all love to hate – Bibi Natenyahu – was caught on tape promissing that taking care of Saddam would initiate a perpetual peace on ME. Just that one short war and all of the mankind’s troubles will be over. Well, that prediction turned out nice for civilians involved. Now I know one doesn’t have to be a particularly talented salesman to sell a war to US Congres, but if I were a Kurdish politician, I’d Google Iraq war casualties before letting this murderer selling me certain death…

Divide and conquer strategy being advocated by Israel.

great kurdistan will come and anyone who douts the right of kurds to have a country should get a psychiatrist

No own country on the back of other people. No Israel, no Kurdistan. The Zionists and the Kurds came one day with only one aim: to grab land, to steal and to betray. It is time to pulverize these criminals. One after the other. AND THEN peace will come to the Middle East.

the illegimate entity, the root of all evil on earth, is spewing bullshit …. nothing will materialise from this rubbish … in short they are forever losers ….. and such cowards towards the righteous nation …. indeed these zio satanic terrorists have earned themselves the supreme race in perm hell

The map of greater Kurdistan clearly shows that these people are nearly non-existent in Syria except for few towns and villages

Right now The Kurds are being used as evil Trojan horses in Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey. These countries should come together, close their air spaces to certain countries, tackle the Kurds militarily from all sides and subdue them. The aims or America and Israel are not good and Americans never leave any country they set foot in. Any kurdish state will be used to continually provoke these countries and will more than likely hosts air and army bases and possibly nuclear weapons to threaten and even attack them.

He can live with isis on his borders LOL no shite

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The ODED YINON PLAN to break up the Arab countries written in 1982. It is all about Greater Israel

1- The Arab world is too fractured to pose a threat to the Jews in Palestine The Arab Moslem world, therefore, is not the major strategic problem which we shall face in the Eighties, despite the fact that it carries the main threat against Israel, due to its growing military might. This world, with its ethnic minorities, its factions and internal crises, which is astonishingly self-destructive, as we can see in Lebanon, in non-Arab Iran and now also in Syria, is unable to deal successfully with its fundamental problems and does not therefore constitute a real threat against the State of Israel in the long run, but only in the short run where its immediate military power has great import. In the long run, this world will be unable to exist within its present framework in the areas around us without having to go through genuine revolutionary changes.

2- The Arab world is made up of ethnic groups hostile to one another The Moslem Arab World is built like a temporary house of cards put together by foreigners (France and Britain in the Nineteen Twenties), without the wishes and desires of the inhabitants having been taken into account. It was arbitrarily divided into 19 states, all made of combinations of minorities and ethnic groups which are hostile to one another, so that every Arab Moslem state nowadays faces ethnic social destruction from within, and in some a civil war is already raging.

3- Algeria, Morocco,Tunisia are made up of Arabs and non-Arab Berbers Apart from Egypt, all the Maghreb states are made up of a mixture of Arabs and non-Arab Berbers. In Algeria there is already a civil war raging in the Kabile mountains between the two nations in the country. Morocco and Algeria are at war with each other over Spanish Sahara, in addition to the internal struggle in each of them. Militant Islam endangers the integrity of Tunisia and Qaddafi organizes wars which are destructive from the Arab point of view, from a country which is sparsely populated and which cannot become a powerful nation. That is why he has been attempting unifications in the past with states that are more genuine, like Egypt and Syria.

4- Sudan is made up of four groups hostile to one another Sudan, the most torn apart state in the Arab Moslem world today is built upon four groups hostile to each other, an Arab Moslem Sunni minority which rules over a majority of non-Arab Africans, Pagans, and Christians.

5- Egypt: Christian minority may want a state of their own In Egypt there is a Sunni Moslem majority facing a large minority of Christians which is dominant in upper Egypt: some 7 million of them, so that even Sadat, in his speech on May 8, expressed the fear that they will want a state of their own, something like a “second” Christian Lebanon in Egypt.

6- Syria: Shia minority ruling over majority Sunni Syria is fundamentally no different from Lebanon except in the strong military regime which rules it. But the real civil war taking place nowadays between the Sunni majority and the Shi’ite Alawi ruling minority (a mere 12% of the population) testifies to the severity of the domestic trouble.

7- Iraq: Sunni minority ruling over Shia majority – Kurdish minority will make it easy to break it up Iraq is, once again, no different in essence from its neighbors, although its majority is Shi’ite and the ruling minority Sunni. Sixty-five percent of the population has no say in politics, in which an elite of 20 percent holds the power. In addition there is a large Kurdish minority in the north, and if it weren’t for the strength of the ruling regime, the army and the oil revenues, Iraq’s future state would be no different than that of Lebanon in the past or of Syria today. The seeds of inner conflict and civil war are apparent today already, especially after the rise of Khomeini to power in Iran, a leader whom the Shi’ites in Iraq view as their natural leader.

8- Bahrain, UAE, Oman: Sunni minority rules over Shia majority, Kuwait: 75% foreign, Saudi Arabia: 50% foreign All the Gulf principalities and Saudi Arabia are built upon a delicate house of sand in which there is only oil. In Kuwait, the Kuwaitis constitute only a quarter of the population. In Bahrain, the Shi’ites are the majority but are deprived of power. In the UAE, Shi’ites are once again the majority but the Sunnis are in power. The same is true of Oman and North Yemen. Even in the Marxist South Yemen there is a sizable Shi’ite minority. In Saudi Arabia half the population is foreign, Egyptian and Yemenite, but a Saudi minority holds power.

9- Jordan: Palestinian majority ruled by Bedouin minority Jordan is in reality Palestinian, ruled by a Trans-Jordanian Bedouin minority, but most of the army and certainly the bureaucracy is now Palestinian. As a matter of fact Amman is as Palestinian as Nablus.

10- Syrian army is Sunni, commander Shia; Iraqi army is Shia ruled by Sunni All of these countries have powerful armies, relatively speaking. But there is a problem there too. The Syrian army today is mostly Sunni with an Alawi officer corps, the Iraqi army Shi’ite with Sunni commanders. This has great significance in the long run, and that is why it will not be possible to retain the loyalty of the army for a long time except where it comes to the only common denominator: The hostility towards Israel, and today even that is insufficient.

11- Iran is composed of Sunni, Shia Alawis, Sunni Kurds, it faces Ethnic and religious tension, Half of Iran’s population is comprised of a Persian speaking group and the other half of an ethnically Turkish group. Turkey’s population comprises a Turkish Sunni Moslem majority, some 50%, and two large minorities, 12 million Shi’ite Alawis and 6 million Sunni Kurds.

12- Afghanistan: 33% Shia, 67% Sunni In Afghanistan there are 5 million Shi’ites who constitute one third of the population.

13- Pakistan: 15 million Shia (1982 figures) In Sunni Pakistan there are 15 million Shi’ites who endanger the existence of that state.

14- The Muslim world made up of ethnic minorities is like a house of cards This national ethnic minority picture extending from Morocco to India and from Somalia to Turkey points to the absence of stability and a rapid degeneration in the entire region. When this picture is added to the economic one, we see how the entire region is built like a house of cards, unable to withstand its severe problems.

15- Jews should have given Jordan to Palestinians and removed them from Palestine We could have saved ourselves all the bitter and dangerous conflict since then if we had given Jordan to the Palestinians who live west of the Jordan river. By doing that we would have neutralized the Palestinian problem which we nowadays face, and to which we have found solutions that are really no solutions at all, such as territorial compromise or autonomy which amount, in fact, to the same thing. Today, we suddenly face immense opportunities for transforming the situation thoroughly and this we must do in the coming decade, otherwise we shall not survive as a state.

16- Jews should never have lost the Sinai peninsula The loss of the Suez Canal oil fields, of the immense potential of the oil, gas and other natural resources in the Sinai peninsula which is geomorphologically identical to the rich oil-producing countries in the region, will result in an energy drain in the near future and will destroy our domestic economy: one quarter of our present GNP as well as one third of the budget is used for the purchase of oil. The search for raw materials in the Negev and on the coast will not, in the near future, serve to alter that state of affairs. (Regaining) the Sinai peninsula with its present and potential resources is therefore a political priority which is obstructed by the Camp David and the peace agreements. The fault for that lies of course with the present Israeli government and the governments which paved the road to the policy of territorial compromise, the Alignment governments since 1967.

17- Hoping for Egypt to give Israel the excuse to start a war and take back Sinai. Israel has two major routes through which to realize this purpose, one direct and the other indirect. The direct option is the less realistic one because of the nature of the regime and government in Israel as well as the wisdom of Sadat who obtained our withdrawal from Sinai, which was, next to the war of 1973, his major achievement since he took power. Israel will not unilaterally break the treaty, neither today, nor in 1982, unless it is very hard pressed economically and politically and Egypt provides Israel with the excuse to take the Sinai back into our hands for the fourth time in our short history. What is left therefore, is the indirect option. The economic situation in Egypt, the nature of the regime and its pan-Arab policy, will bring about a situation after April 1982 in which Israel will be forced to act directly or indirectly in order to regain control over Sinai as a strategic, economic and energy reserve for the long run. Egypt does not constitute a military strategic problem due to its internal conflicts and it could be driven back to the post 1967 war situation in no more than one day.

18- How to break up Egypt Breaking Egypt down territorially into distinct geographical regions is the political aim of Israel in the Nineteen Eighties on its Western front. Egypt is divided and torn apart into many foci of authority. If Egypt falls apart, countries like Libya, Sudan or even the more distant states will not continue to exist in their present form and will join the downfall and dissolution of Egypt. The vision of a Christian Coptic State in Upper Egypt alongside a number of weak states with very localized power and without a centralized government as to date, is the key to a historical development which was only set back by the peace agreement but which seems inevitable in the long run.

19- Break up Lebanon into five provinces Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precendent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track.

20- How to break up Syria and Iraq into ethnic and religious components The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unqiue areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target. Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon, so that there will be a Shi’ite Alawi state along its coast, a Sunni state in the Aleppo area, another Sunni state in Damascus hostile to its northern neighbor, and the Druzes who will set up a state, maybe even in our Golan, and certainly in the Hauran and in northern Jordan. This state of affairs will be the guarantee for peace and security in the area in the long run, and that aim is already within our reach today.

21- How to break up Iraq along ethnic/religious lines Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel’s targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi’ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north. It is possible that the present Iranian-Iraqi confrontation will deepen this polarization.

22- How to break up Saudi Arabia The entire Arabian peninsula is a natural candidate for dissolution due to internal and external pressures, and the matter is inevitable especially in Saudi Arabia. Regardless of whether its economic might based on oil remains intact or whether it is diminished in the long run, the internal rifts and breakdowns are a clear and natural development in light of the present political structure.

23- Transfer power in Jordan from the King to Palestinians Jordan constitutes an immediate strategic target in the short run but not in the long run, for it does not constitute a real threat in the long run after its dissolution, the termination of the lengthy rule of King Hussein and the transfer of power to the Palestinians in the short run. There is no chance that Jordan will continue to exist in its present structure for a long time, and Israel’s policy, both in war and in peace, ought to be directed at the liquidation of Jordan under the present regime and the transfer of power to the Palestinian majority.

24- Change the regime in Jordan and expel Palestinians from Palestine to Jordan Changing the regime east of the river will also cause the termination of the problem of the territories densely populated with Arabs west of the Jordan. Whether in war or under conditions of peace, emigration from the territories and economic demographic freeze in them, are the guarantees for the coming change on both banks of the river, and we ought to be active in order to accelerate this process in the nearest future.

25- Jews must remove all Palestinians and send them to Jordan The autonomy plan ought also to be rejected, as well as any compromise or division of the territories for, given the plans of the PLO and those of the Israeli Arabs themselves, the Shefa’amr plan of September 1980, it is not possible to go on living in this country in the present situation without separating the two nations, the Arabs to Jordan and the Jews to the areas west of the river.

26- Palestinians must understand that Jews must rule over all Palestine-and they need to move to Jordan Genuine coexistence and peace will reign over the land only when the Arabs understand that without Jewish rule between the Jordan and the sea they will have neither existence nor security. A nation of their own and security will be theirs only in Jordan.

27- Palestinians consider all of Palestine stolen irrespective of 1948 or 1967 and Jews consider all of Palestine theirs – even beyond Jordan River Within Israel the distinction between the areas of ’67 and the territories beyond them, those of ’48, has always been meaningless for Arabs and nowadays no longer has any significance for us. The problem should be seen in its entirety without any divisions as of ’67. It should be clear, under any future political situation or military constellation, that the solution of the problem of the indigenous Arabs will come only when they recognize the existence of Israel in secure borders up to the Jordan river and beyond it, as our existential need in this difficult epoch, the nuclear epoch which we shall soon enter.

28- The West Bank must be populated with Jews or else Jews will be defeated like crusaders. Dispersal of the population is therefore a domestic strategic aim of the highest order; otherwise, we shall cease to exist within any borders. Judea, Samaria and the Galilee are our sole guarantee for national existence, and if we do not become the majority in the mountain areas, we shall not rule in the country and we shall be like the Crusaders, who lost this country which was not theirs anyhow, and in which they were foreigners to begin with. Rebalancing the country demographically, strategically and economically is the highest and most central aim today. Taking hold of the mountain watershed from Beersheba to the Upper Galilee is the national aim generated by the major strategic consideration which is settling the mountainous part of the country that is empty of Jews today.

29- No force can remove the Jews from Palestine Our existence in this country itself is certain, and there is no force that could remove us from here either forcefully or by treachery (Sadat’s method). Despite the difficulties of the mistaken “peace” policy and the problem of the Israeli Arabs and those of the territories, we can effectively deal with these problems in the foreseeable future.

Link: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The%20Zionist%20Plan%20for%20the%20Middle%20East.pdf

“Because the Iranians are sophisticated, they are a higher form of civilization, they have a nice academic infrastructure, nice industry, good scientists, many talented young people. They are very similar to us. And because they are similar to us, they are much, much more dangerous,”

Of course. Like I said so manuy times, USA prefers the stupid arabs and kurds than the smart Iranians because stupid people are better manipulated.

Syrian arabs must retake the lands stolen by the kurds and make war against them and expell them to Turkey or Iran where they belong.

Only Russia can stop USA-Israel plans for middle east, if they want to, they can do it. If jews influence in Russia is too heavy, that will not be possible, and the western plans will continue.