Israeli-Iranian Tensions Go Sky High As Israel Makes New Attempt To Undermine Nuclear Deal

Your “NO” is correct – but does it hurt to know? I am merely curious and if he already knows and tells me I don’t have to go read the book of Daniel to find it (and be stuck with the possibility of not finding it because it’s someone’s “interpretation.”)

Thank you! If, as you say, “he is a dictator who will soon appear on the scene” then the Antichrist is already alive and an adult so …. who are the candidates for the job? And why him/her/them?

“He is not a very savoury character, but apparently is a military genius and He will launch several wars against Israel as the Israelis continue to defy his power and authority.”

While the amount of salt in one’s character and how many battles are won or lost might be a matter of opinion, that 3rd one, “launch several (more than 3) wars against Israel” strikes me as a bit of a problem …. maybe in 20 years time if someone starts now?

There is NO dictator in the Arab world that can rival the brutal genocidal dictatorship of successive Israeli leaders or successive US presidents since the 1600’s. There simply isn’t enough people to massacre in the Mid East compared to what the US has massacred in only the last 50 years – more than 20 million Human Beings. and that’s conservative,

Ah – I took you for interested My bad.

Agreed

The scriptures say that he(this powerful world leader) will attack Israel from the north and defeat her in the first war. A peace will follow for a very short time, but the Israelis will break some sort of political agreement, leading to another attempted invasion from the north, which will be stopped by what sounds like NATO naval and air power. After this the Antichrist will return to Magog, but then suddenly launch a third attack, which will be MUCH larger than any previous attacks. This massive invasion will completely crush and occupy Israel, plus many of the surrounding nations, including Egypt. It says that the only countries to escape will be Edom and Moab(ancient names for Syria and Jordan, possibly). The 4th war will be nuclear, as the Antichrist joins together with 10 other nations and declares war against the US, which will be wiped out in a nuclear exchange within one hour. Whatever happens, it looks like we are in for some rough rides ahead .

In your first reply to me (answering my request for Daniel chapter and verse) you also wrote this:-

“Ezekiel chapter 38 mentions the same invasion by the armies of Magog (Old Hebrew name for Russia)”

•What is the basis for your claim that Magog refers to Russia? •Or that Magog is the “old Hebrew name for Russia? Far as I can find, it refers to Lydia (now part of modern day Turkey.)

Aside: and just as a matter of curiosity – what “10 other nations” are expected to unite with the Antichrist (Russia) to go nuclear on the US/NATO/Europe/”Grecia?” (Iran + Turkey-maybe + possibly China leaves 7 missing.)

Most Bible scholars seem to think it is Russia. In other parts of the Bible it also talks of the Antichrist being tfrom the land of Magog and being the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal (Moscow and Tobolsk). This is the general assumption: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dbac19982b02f92448a9679dcfbccd9f0d3fc49c892183a081915065749e4db8.jpg

Then read this:- Where are Gog and Magog located? [closed] https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/8267/where-are-gog-and-magog-located

“I am a professional archeologist. Many end times aficionados believe that Magog represents Russia and that Russia will soon come to invade Israel. However, the ancient Assyrians had dealings with Magog, which was also called Lydia, and their Court records clearly identify Magog and it is not Russia. For decades Christians have been deceived and have been unwittingly deceiving others about who is to be involved in the prophesied invasion of Israel. Russia has absolutely nothing to do with Magog and being the nation that will lead an invasion of Israel.

“The Assyrian Royal Court dealt with each of these nations directly about 100 years before Ezekiel wrote, and their records are reliable, clear and detailed. These are the same records that are referred to in Ezra 4:15 and the same records used to verify the historical events written about in scripture from circa 800 B.C. to 400 B.C. These records represent the primary source on this subject as opposed to secondary sources which are often not based on facts and very often the product of mischief, bias or lack of study.

“Any reference to Josephus is of no avail because historians and archeologists know from a multitude of written records, that the Greeks (such as Herodotus) did not call Magog the Scythians. All of our earliest copies of Josephus come from eleventh century Monks and the passage that is often referred to is clearly a forgery for several reasons obvious to historians and archeologists who study the ancient Near East. “</

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Debunking the Russia/War of Gog and Magog Myth http://www.newscientificevidenceforgod.com/2012/02/debunking-russiawar-of-gog-and-magog.html

Where is Magog, Meshech and Tubal? http://www.prophezine.com/index.php?option=com_content&id=517:where-is-magog-meshech-and-tubal ——————–

At one time “Most Bible scholars” also thought the world was flat and not too long ago what “most people thought” invaded Iraq on a lie.

This strikes me as a particularly dangerous time to be propounding the (erroneous) view that Russia is Magog, its leaders the Antichrist, and is going to invade Israel because the Bible says so regardless of whether you support such an invasion or not.

Look Shahna, at the end of the day, no one really knows exactly what’s going to happen and anything we espouse is only ever going to be personal speculation. I cannot prove to you beyond a shadow of doubt that Magog is Russia. But we can draw some conclusions from the predictions in the Bible, however loose and cryptic they may be. It says very clearly that Israel will be surrounded and invaded by a group of armies from various nations for whatever reason. The leader of these armies is a man called Gog, and he comes from a land called Magog. It also says he comes from the north. He also, around the same time period fights a war against the king of the South who seems to be supporting Israel militarily. This same king Gog later destroys the King of the South (also named Babylon, mother of harlots in Revelations). It says his army is very powerful, but not as powerful as the King of the South’s army, which is “very great and mighty”. It says his armies will push towards the south and toward the East and toward the “pleasant land” (again this is Israel). There is no country in the ME that can challenge and defeat Israel and no country in the world that can defeat and destroy the US in “one hour”, except Russia. The only other contender would be China, but they don’t have the modern military experience, nor the type of nuclear weapons able effectively to destroy the US and it would be decades before they could get to this level of ability. They are still struggling with adjustable vectored jet engines at present and still don’t have full ability to produce variable trajectory ballistic missiles. As to the horses theory being proof of this war having already happened: It specifically says it will happen in the latter days(endtime), when cities have no walls of defence, and it mentions his attack with many ships and “chariots”(tanks?). If you were living 2300+ years ago and had a glimpse of the future, you wouldn’t know how to describe what you were seeing, except in terms that you were familiar with. We don’t have the answers. It’s still all a mystery, but we can make certain deductions. The 10 nations that join with the Antichrist? We don’t have any idea, but they are the same nations symbolized in Daniel Chapter 2 as the 10 toes of the statue and they are all apparently remnants of the Roman empire, some made of iron(authoritarian rule?) and some made of clay (democracies?). Turkey does not have the military or economic power to challenge the US in any way. Iran does not also, and they are too distant from Israel. Wover this Antichrist personage is, he seems to have chosen Russia as his main military to institute his program of peace on Israel and the Palestinians, but the Israelis defy him and what seems like world opinion, leading to the series of wars and final invasion.

You have no idea about anything but keep flooding with BS.

So far the only bullshit I have come across in this post is yours anonim. You’re showing everyone what a jerk you are. Why don’t you go back to Haifa Tel Aviv or whatever cesspool you managed to crawl out from Shlomo

Moron. STFU!

I cannot prove to you beyond a shadow of doubt that Magog is Russia.

But you are basing everything, your entire reasoning, on that – that Russia is “the Land of Gog.” That it is not is proved beyond “reasonable doubt.”

The *Assyrian Royal Court records say Magog is Lydia and we know Lydia was in what today is called Turkey – and Russia has nothing to do with the land of Gog. It doesn’t even feature as a remote possibility.

*They are also the same records Bible scholars now use to provide independent verification and edification of the Bible’s historical accounts from about 805 BC to 530 BC.”

Daniel 11-1 Also I in the first year of Darius the Mede, even I, stood to confirm and to strengthen him.

Darius was born in 550 and ruled from 522 to 486. Daniel is therefore speaking in the time those records were written. It stands to reason that Royal Court Records would reflect accurately exactly whom the court was dealing with. And there is no logical reason to presume they meant Scythians [maybe original Russians] when they said Lydians. (That was Josephus’s error.) ——————– So I’m going to suggest: “The leader of these armies is a man called Gog, and he comes from a land called Magog. It also says he comes from the north.” …. in today’s parlance would be a reference to Erdogan and Turkey. (Because Lydia, ie Magog, ie Land of Gog, was in Turkey.)

Also, just as a matter of interest… ” It says his armies will push towards the south and toward the East and toward the “pleasant land” (again this is Israel).”

It can’t be a reference to Israel – look at a map. Israel is to the west of an army moving south. ——————— PS. “As to the horses theory being proof of this war having already happened:”

What’s the “horses theory?”

“There is no country in the ME that can challenge and defeat Israel and no country in the world that can defeat and destroy the US in “one hour”, except Russia.” ———————– Why ….. “one hour?” One hour would require they launch all their nukes at the US at once in a pre-emptive strike and, to abuse Theresa May, that is “highly unlikely.”

I don’t think you should presume Turkey and Iran (and quite possibly Hezbollah) are unable to defeat Israel – and Israel, even with the US, is unlikely to defeat them (even singly let alone collectively.) Israel’s military is now only good for shooting unarmed children and their airforce for sudden strikes from outside their and their target’s borders all very secure in their safety cocoon that “Big Daddy” won’t let anyone hit back. (IOW., such habits don’t bode well for war.)

Also take into account that the only wars the US has ever won in its entire 200+ year existence are (1) their own civil war and (2) their war against Grenada. FGS, in nigh 20 years they haven’t even been able to defeat some stone age tribesman called the Taliban!

No, they didn’t “win WW2” they were merely on the winning side.Their claim they won WW2 is as facetious as their claim THEY defeated ISIS in Syria.

OMG, so much BS. How do you manage to eat it all?

Israeli apartheid occupier troll detected! This one is such a pathetic coward he has to use an anonymous name like anonim ,, obviously a loser + a coward both

Out of medication mister?

I am a “Miss” peanut and no, my meds are all fully stocked. I have my Zionist Lies anti-bite serum, my Justice for Palestine vaccine, my 20/20 anti Zio-media eyesight pills and my IAKA medication. Oh, the acronym IAKA ? = Inoculation Against Khazar Antagonism. Go get a real life you frickin’ loser and stop your parasitical welfare lifestyle when there are hard-working Israelis that have to support you with their hard-earned taxes. . .

So nobody wanted to marry you. I know what kind of “Miss” you are.

Yes, unfortunately too many of my male aquaintances were penile size-challenged (probably like yourself- the biggest mouths almost always have the smallest appendages). lol . Take another look at it . I have a measuring tape if you need one…oh sorry, just remembered it doesn’t measure in millimeters….

Ok, I understand your pain.

:)

WE can only hope

On the Richter scale of Bullshit – I’d give it a 10/10. Thats a Plain setup for any Arab leader who might conquer Occupied Palestine and make his capital Jerusalem (ie, rightfully return Jerusalem as the rightful capital of Palestine). Then the West can get together their army of Christian religious crazies globally and start another crusade all over again. There are SO many interpretations. Even Nostradamus’ interpretations are as varied as there are Nostradamus “scholars”. To the Zionist Christians – any leader who challenges the misguided ownership of Palestine by the fake Jew Khazars must be the “Anti-Christ” . What a crock of Shiit.

You are answering a matter before fully reading what was written my friend. It does not say that an Arab leader will lead an army to invade Israel. It says “a” leader of Magog will lead this invasion. The Arabs are totally incapable of doing it. I was just quoting what was passed on to me by a friend who has extensively studied the predictions of the Bible for the past 50 years. Whether or not it happens according to the stated interpretations is definitely open for conjecture. I detect a deep bitterness toward religion in your comment, but be careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water on any issue as there are many other Christians out there who are not a part of the hellish Zionazi Khazar conspiracy and who hate Zionazi occupation of rightful Palestinian lands. Another interesting point is that this coming world leader is apparently brought to power suddenly by the JWO, but then he turns on them, leading to an attack on Israel. We’ll have to wait n see ..

Yet another BS. Will you ever stop?

Oh dear . . I just offended another Zionazi Khazar. . .

You sound like an ISIS preacher. Nothing more nothing less.

I must have said something right. The Zionazis are screaming and contorting with rage. I’ll have to remember the formula for my next comments… LMAO

LOL

Thank you for the links. It was an obstensibly good read. I do not agree with everything that Paul Craig Roberts has to say. I imagine that Iranians would sell secrets to Occupied Palestine, or at least make them up. I was unable watch the video, as I have restricted bandwidth. It would take most of the day to watch a 43 minute clip.

The official quietness around it all does indeed indicate that mini nukes hit Syria. That is very disturbing to the whole world. It is also a suitable show of sickness from the man screaming Iran has nukes. In return I post two very short clips which I think you will enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOLpwEwVaQw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjmiyOgO66g

Thanks fo0r those links

Really. It would be boring as hell if we agreed on everything. I prefer life as it is. Not got a clue how long that will last though.

Your passion as a rebel, I completely understand. Not everyone will. Not that I need to tell you that. Your passion is Not wrong. Mostly misunderstood. Don’t let anyone dishearten you. Never lose your passion.

At 78 I don’t think I can be “disheartened”.

In fact with increasing knowledge my passion gets stronger each year :-). Age is a blessing because if I was much younger I would be a MUCH more ACTIVE rebel. My Grand, when he was young, even fought in South Africa also, with the Boers against the British and then returned do Ireland to “pay his respects” to the Queenie. I believe with more GUNS for the Irish :-)

He was one tough Republican, not to be trifled with and HATED the British Royalty and Military, for what they did to we Irish

Yeah.. laughs at the USA … and almost wants to marry Bibi Netanyahu, like a desperate lover.

Hang round, they might need a bridesmaid.

I stand by my comment but thanks for you input

You have a good knowledge of what is happening. No one will tell you that Gaza is not a jewish murderous atrocity.

The Irish suffered. I had a close friend that joined the British army. He told me many things that I will not post. I will however post a lighter aggressive detail. The British army in Ireland would around 2am… Regularly………… Start battering dustbin lids to wake up everyone. The battle if you can call it a battle, was psychological. Not as murderous as the jews but just as sick.

You are attacking a man that is passionate about his past. I would be passionate about my past if it happened to me. Lay off.

Tanks “jerry” BUT it was MORE murderous than the Palestinian genocide !

The British fought with us for over 600 years, from t4h time of the “Battle of the Boyne” while we were basically UNARMED and murdered over 5 million of our Brothers and Sisters, with most of that slaughter in the CREATED Famine in the late 1800’s. THAT is when we deiced to start using GUERRILLA WARFARE tactics, which, by the way almost got their Queen…..THAT is what turned the tide in our favour.

The Palestinians, whom we support, have a long way to go before their Genocide compares to ours….and by the way,we fly the Palestinian Flag in Dublin

If the Palestinians are smart, they’ll learn from our experience and a lot of lives can be saved. Hamas had the right idea when they took out that Israeli outpost.They need to follow it up with MORE of the same,like we did with the British.

Here is some REAL history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDndoQrqQys

I was only referring to what I know to be true in my lifetime. This may amuse you. During the late 80’s, my sister had records out and we used to tour the country doing shows. We did an Airforce base in Cornwall. I think it was a Sergeants Ball. Strawberry’s and champagne all round. We went on after the military band. They were awesome. Nothing like your military parade, they were fantastic musicians. We would compliment them and they would constantly remind us they were musicians, not a fighting force. They sounded near paranoid too. You will never lose the distorted view of the masses because of the power of the jewish media. Secret confession time. I once lived in Manchester. I came across a park there with a massive statue of Cromwell. I was incensed. Bought a can of black paint. I took the lid off and threw it. Far more ended up on me than the statue.

Cromwell brought the Jews back to England, “coincidentally” at the same time the British Military decided to STARVE us, as they could not beat us any other way

Ironically, on my Mother’s side we were British Lords and Ladies -“The Whittakers”

Ultimate irony indeed. Yes. Cromwell did bring the jews to England. They financed the English revolution.