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NOVEMBER 2024

Kiev Begs For ATACMS Ballistic Missiles

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Kiev Begs For ATACMS Ballistic Missiles

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The Kiev regime continues to beg its Western allies for modern weapons, turning the war in Ukraine into the global one. To approach Ukraine’s victory in the war against Russia, Ukraine needs long-range missiles, said adviser to the head of Zelensky’s Office Podolyak.

Moscow has already warned that the delivery of longer-range missiles by the United States to Ukraine will make Washington a party to the conflict. In the event of the start of deliveries of longer-range missiles to Ukraine than those that have already been sent to Kiev, the United States will cross the “red line”, said the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova.

Pilots of Ukrainian fighters already use American AGM-88 High-speed Anti-Radar Missile (HARM) anti-radar missiles which have the range of up to 150 kilometers. The range of RGM-84 Harpoon anti-ship missiles, which were also supplied to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, reaches 120 kilometers. The AFU uses them not from ships, but, presumably, from converted trucks. The notorious US multiple Launch Rocket systems (MLRS) M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) allow to fire various types of rockets and missiles, including the unguided ones. The installation is capable of releasing up to six rounds of ammunition at a time at a range of up to 300 kilometers. They are actively used by the AFU to kill civilians in the territories they lost. LINK

However, this is no enough for the Kiev regime.

The Wall Street Journal reported on September 12 that Kiev “sent a signal” to the United States and NATO with a request to ensure the possibility of purchasing 29 types of weapons in 2023. The list includes ATACMS missiles with a range of up to 300 km

The supply of American ATACMS ballistic missiles to Ukraine will mean the actual unleashing of a military conflict by Washington with Moscow.

On Thursday, the U.S. leader announced the aid to be drawn from U.S. military equipment inventories in a memorandum to Secretary of State Antony Blinken. The latest $600 million arms transfer included “additional ammunition” for the HIMARS precision-guided rocket artillery systems, 36,000 105mm artillery rounds, 1,000 Excalibur precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds, four counter-artillery radars, four trucks, and eight trailers to transport heavy equipment, anti-drone equipment, mine-clearing equipment, Claymore anti-personnel mines, demolition munitions, small arms and ammunition, night vision devices, cold weather gear, and other field equipment, official statements said

The ATACMS missile, a long-range, precision-guided munition manufactured by Lockheed Martin and long wished by Kiev, was absent from the White House announcement.

Kiev Begs For ATACMS Ballistic Missiles

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On September 17, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba said in an interview with PBS that the country is discussing the supply of long-range missiles with the United States.

“The issue of assistance and delivery of missiles of a certain range and armored vehicles is a matter of accelerating the end of the war. The sooner we get these volumes of weapons, and we will get them anyway, I want everyone to understand this, because the war cannot end otherwise than on the terms of Ukraine. Because for the stability of the world, Russia must lose. Otherwise, Russia will claim a dominant role in determining global security, and no one needs it, including the United States.

As we receive missiles, we will accelerate the timing of the end of the war. It can end in 3-5 months, and not in a year and a half.

The range of the missiles determines the possibility of striking warehouses in remote areas, for example, in the Crimea. Having destroyed everything related to the delivery of resources, we will get the exsanguination of Russian groups. The fall of Donetsk and Lugansk will bring down the entire infrastructure of the Russian army. Russia will start to flee from the territory of Ukraine on a large scale, including Crimea,” adviser to the head of Zelensky’s Office Podolyak says.

The wet dreams of the Kiev regime are not dangerous for Russia but pose a real threat to the entire international system. Russian forces is armed with modern air defense systems capable of neutralizing the threat posed by ATACMS missiles. At the same time, Washington’s presents to Kiev may turn the Ukrainian war into WWIII.

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Donnchadh

“May turn into WW3 ” –will if Russia wants to continue to exist — I would bomb their delivery points for a start.

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Sephiroth

Well, russian surveillance capability are worst in the world. All weapons are being under their nose.

To this day, I don’t understand that as Ukrainians fire himmars, russian troops should know the position of the launcher and it should be easy for them to destroy those himmars. But what we see? Himmars continues to operate, and we hear russian mods claiming that the himmars were destroyed. I don’t really believe russian MOD statement. They are the king of lies.

V for victory

1- some HIMARS are effectively destroyed

2- to discover a MLR from a 70 km range is all but easy, not even with an counter-artillery radar. You have to be there with an aicraft or drone (armed) to do so.

Hans Holm

Clueless nonsense, you imbecile have no idea what you are talking about.

OccupyBacon

You “don’t understand” because you are a 10 years old idiot (and also a troll, probably the same moron as this Ramses). Do you at least understand how large Ukraine is? They hide in the forest or in urban areas, fire their missiles, and immediately return to their cover. How exactly your think Russians should instantly detect them and destroy them? Israelis failed to destroy homemade Hamas missile launchers, fired from a very, very small area; and they had a complete air dominance 24/7, radars, drones and even ships nearby.

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VOZ0DB

It’s the other way around… The USofT tells ukrainian mutts to start asking for the weapons the USofT wants to deploy into Ukraine… and the mutts obey.

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Carlo

With all the money and weapons received from his Westerner partners, I wonder why Ukraine hasn’t built what it asks for. It is not that simple to take apart an MLRS missile and change its propellant to get a longer range.

Southfront censorship sucks

United banking cartels of Rothschild, the UBCR is what Russia is having to deal with… The UBCR gives orders to NATO and puppets of the G20, from their Masonic cabalist fifedom in Isreal.

Bobo

It is obvious that the Kiev regime want to drag west European countries directly into a conflict with Russia. It can be argued that this is already happening with the UK Germany and Poland supplying weapons and missiles to Kiev. When west European countries start getting the same treatment that the Donbass has been subjected to since 2014 then we will see their attitude change

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AI8UT

As far as I am concerned we (US) had no (zero) business getting involved but as soon as we started sending military aid to Ukraine we sided with and are an active party to the Ukraine conflict. There is not one positive benefit of our involvement and the American people are starting to wake up to that fact.

Michel LeBlanc

Ukraine is money laundering heaven, espicially for the so call jewish russian mafia.

The same mafia that controls the DNC.

Its the cash cow for the organized crime parasites that have taken over the west.

Southfront censorship sucks

The Kiev regime? or do you mean the Rothschild puppet masters sitting in their stolen Masonic fifedom of Isreal?

Russian

No conflict with Russia will happen. Even if NATO forces attack Russia there won’t be any response. To fight one needs atleast some courage. Russia is good at killing civilians, bombing Power stations and dams. But if the enemy is strong, Russia runs away.

eyesore

Forget about missiles for Moscow Germany stealing all the bear’s refineries should be enough for missiles for Berlin

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Eu hires kweers for serbian police

Will the eu pay widows for fallen husbands,hell no! Eu like kiev is too stingy for that,the sooner folks wise up to the fact,atleast Russia can take care of their own where as failed neo libba freaks simply cannot (period)

Jordan Gaidarof

What are those refineries good for without the raw materials

eyesore

Still don’t mean you could thief them just so, is a free for all or wat?

Southfront censorship sucks

Rothschild will steal your money with two basic methods, counterfieting, the tribute of hyperinflation, or by seizing your assests held by anyone of their proxy banks, like Canadian banks did to their citizens…basically outright thef on top of usury levels of interest levied on fraudulently procured fiat currency.

Southfront censorship sucks

Great oppertunity for Russia to ‘explode’ those refiners using captured NATO weapons and point the finger at Zelensky, who thought they were legitimate targets, you know…being Russian and all. The media will declare it another Ukrainian victory no doubt, while they take aim at their other foot.

Eu hires kweers for serbian police

Can kiev nazis pay widows of fallen men,fk no! Don’t be a fool,real man must see to that his familys taken care of,instead of its selfish cakwhole?Wisen!

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Viktor

“The notorious US multiple Launch Rocket systems (MLRS) M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) allow to fire various types of rockets and missiles, including the unguided ones. The installation is capable of releasing up to six rounds of ammunition at a time at a range of up to 300 kilometers.”

Wrong. Range of HIMARS is less than 100km (new improved version supposedly with 150km range is not even operational). When you attach ATACMS instead then it’s range is some 300km but it can’t fire “six round”, rockets are obviously bigger. Different systems, both use the same carrier vehicle. HIMRAS is inferior to Russian Tornado and ATACMS is inferior to Iskanders. But yeah ATACMS is a tactical missile much better than old Soviet Tochkas and can be used to attack targets in Russia.

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Carlo

Syria under embargo, without a cent built its domestic Elephant rocket, these Ukrainians receive tens of billions of dollars and are unable to improve the range of a HIMARS.

HB_Norica

I’ve been watching HIMAR being promoted as some kind of wonder weapon when really it’s just a cheaper less protected version of the M-270. What they don’t tell you is it’s just a copy of Russian Smerch / Tornado MLRS systems that can be taken out by a 50 cal round @ 2000 yards. It even fires the same missiles.

USA is using Ukraine as an infomercial for US weapons. Consumate bullshit artists and con men these Americans are … sociopaths who don’t give a fuck about anyone or anything but making a buck. Buy a HIMARS and get a set of free Ginsu knives and a kevlar vest for when your MLRS gets blown out from underneath you.

Last edited 2 years ago by HB_Norica
Russian

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! Aren’t you aware of the results in kharkiv? Territory which Russia gained in six months was taken back in two days.

Southfront censorship sucks

ATACMS munitions are basically cluster munitions, of the 4 standard munitions available in service, 2 are cluster bomb delivery systems and 2 are drone loitering BAT munition delivery systems. They plan on using these on civilians.

Russian

“Himars inferior to tornado “? Then why did Russia run away from kharkiv leaving behind the superior tornadoes?

Johny cash

Jus send it to ukraine. Pathetic russians aint gna do shit real talk. The west has crossed all russian red lines helping to kill their soldiers in the tens of thousands and they still wont do shit, what is a few missiles

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Jordan Gaidarof

Not only will Russia answer the red line crossing but also your IP address

HB_Norica

Probably won’t bother interdicting then … they’ll just pick them off as they fall just like Tochka and HIMARS now. They’ll be able to write a software patch for their air defences that way so when the real war starts they will be able to intercept them right off the bat.

kotromanic

Using the western media to make russian weapons look bad and the us weapons look supreme. I noticed recently the german media started doing what until now only us and russian media was doing. Praising wepon systems and how usefull they are.

This seems to be a major marketing campaign for the us arms industrie no matter how much ukraine gets destroyed.

In the end it is a win win situation for the US.

1. Russias arms industry getting negativ reputation (no matter if the failure is due to descisions or hardware it will be blamed on the hardware)

2. us arms industry getting huge sales and pr

3. whatever part of ukraine russia gets, will have to be rebuild by russia

4. whatever part of ukraine will survive will have to be rebuild by the eu

5. the energy crisis in the eu will lessen the eu as global economic competition.

6. russia will not be able to sell it’s products to the us sphere of influence in the future

The only question left will be how to prevent china to profit of all this as well. Cause a weakened russia getting under the influence of china will not help the us. And china is much better prepared to jump into the contracts that a weakened eu ecomony will loose then the us.

So china is the endgame of the us unless they really have a plan to get another jelzin kind president in charge of russia and then cut china of all recource supply. Then the situation will be similar to japan in ww2 and we will see if china will fare better then japan did.

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marty

The us is done as a superpower. It has nothing left but it’s MIC and that will take some time to take away it’s influence and “teeth”. Russian hardware is very good and does a decent job of eliminating it’s objectives. Not sure what you are going on about dude, you don’t seem to have all the facts. The East will take the reins of world’s influence and power shortly.

HB_Norica

Yes they are slagging Russian weapons in the media but that only matters to taxpayers and fan boys. Real military people … the ones who are actually responsible for buying weapons for their countries … aren’t going to be swayed by propaganda. They are military people after all who know how and why propaganda works. They have much better sources for analysis of a weapons performance than chest thumping pieces in WAPO or DW.

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Papermoney

Buying weapons is a political decision it doesn’t matter how good or bad the weapons are the west will buy whatever the USA is selling or suffer the consequences.

Sephiroth

Russian weapons are really bad and their military too. The battlefield says so.

Southfront censorship sucks

What you didn’t mention is the fact that Russia is using it’s 3rd and 4th generation weapons systems only, only a few 5th generation units (Terminators) have been used on NATO mercenaries to support the poorly equiped Donbass and Lugansk militias as ‘equalizers’. I would not be investing in the US arms complex, while the US gov is hyperinflating itself into financial collapse, just imagine what those shares will be worth when the US dollar collapses and the arms purchases go unpaid.

The climax

Russia should use tactical nukes already.

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Sephiroth

If russia uses tactical nuke, then it will confirm that the russian military cannot carry out operations properly, not even on their border. It proves the incompetence of the military.

Hjalmar

When will Putin come to the conclusion that enough has to be enough? Surely he cannot allow for the Nato scumbags to quite literally walk all over Ukraine without any retaliation of any sort? No more handouts of hard-won Russian land to them is what I now demand. And now the Kiev junta is asking for even more — long-range missiles! This nonsense has to stop. Not one but several redlines in the sand have been crossed. And what happens? Nothing!

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The Objective

I laughed when I read this line: “The supply of American ATACMS ballistic missiles to Ukraine will mean the actual unleashing of a military conflict by Washington with Moscow.”

“The wet dreams of the Kiev regime are not dangerous for Russia but pose a real threat to the entire international system”

Why is Russia warning against supplying these ATACMS if the Russians can deal with it as the writer claims here: “Russian forces is armed with modern air defense systems capable of neutralizing the threat posed by ATACMS missiles”

Obviously, Russia underestimated Ukraine.

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Lance Ripplinger

I bet most of the weapons “sent to Ukraine” have been sold on the black market. Zelensky and his ilk get richer, and while the people of Ukraine suffer terribly. Zelensky just does lines of cocaine while sending thousands of Ukrainians to their deaths.

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Petruška

Why do I still have to read bad new every day? It’s about time Russia puts on a new gear. I suggest bombing all ukro-nazis train stations around the country, and when it gets colder make a total blackout in Kiev, plus finally all airfields in Kiev should be bombed. Now when Kiev’s fascist regime is bombing administration buildings in Luhansk, Donetsk, in Kherson etc (many dead during the last days) the Russian Forces are now allowed to do the same in Kiev. And also consider use of tactical nuclear weapons against the fascist troops? Or at least make a statement to fascists Biden US regime that if any more HIMARS or long range weapons systems arrives to Kiev’s junta then we will use tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine’s troops using them. US corrupt regime of warmongers listens only to strength to power💪🇷🇺✌️

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Kevin douglas

Kevin

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Kevin douglas

Russia

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Kevin douglas

Russia has lost this war. Because they are fighting to lose thousands of lives. If they have power why dont they used it. China india all thought russia would defeat ukraine by now. It is rhe other way around. Putin must step down he is a loser

Hollerbusch

Speed up power!

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Tyty

Dont be surprised that they wont arrive. Moscow so far has not escalated the war to a direct provocation but its falling to a predicted setup. Whatever the outcome is Ukr falls to Washington pocket with all that debt. A settlement will be with US and Rus will have to give something to them to get it.

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ElCristeroAmericano

Washington wants to take the world to the brink of WWIII but not over the threshold. They will back down if and when Russia finally confronts them militarily. Same with China. Washington is bluffing but it’s going to take someone with the balls to call their bluff to expose them for who they are.

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IMHO

So the elites in Russia will let the underlings die in their war and let the U.S. supply all the weapons Ukraine needs to kill them, but draw a “red line” if the U.S. supplies weapons that might hit closeer to them.

All these elites are playing power games. Russia could have won this in the first month but this is all about political power games.

You are expendable.

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Dick Von D'Astard

Poor mans Iskander.

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Антон

But at very high cost as all western and japanese iron.

jerry

Begs? more like demands!

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Антон

This is very brazen beggar.

Remi Korsakov

The biggest existential thread to Russia is its leadership. Embarrassing to watch Putin kiss up to Xi and Modi. “Please will you buy my gas and oil and don’t mention the war?”

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Buford T Justice

Flatten Kiev , stop messing around.

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Антон

Lvov first.

PATON

CADA DIA MAS CERCA DEL ARMAGEDEON SIN LUGAR A DUDA ALGUNA !!!

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