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Let The Guns Speak: Kyiv’s Sabotage Of Diplomatic Process Opens Door For New Stage Of Russian Offensive

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On March 12, the Russian Armed Forces and units of the people’s militias of Donbas continued their offensive operations against Kyiv’s forces. As in the previous days, the most active military actions are ongoing in the southern and eastern parts of Ukraine.

In the region of Donbas, units of the People’s Militia of the Donetsk Republic, with the fire support of the Russian Armed Forces, took control of Valerianovka, Zeleny Gai and blocked Novoandreevka from the south and east.

Forces of the Lugansk People’s Republic took control of Surovtsevka, Schedrischevo, Zhitlovka and blocked Rubezhnoe.

As to the actions of the Armed Forces of Russia, the defense ministry reported that they reached Novodonetskoe, Novomayorskoe and Pavlovka.

At the same time, pro-Kyiv forces reported the intensification of strikes in the area of the city of Mykolaiv in the southern sector of the operations. Over the past days, Russian forces have worked to block the city and as of March 12 the operation to do this is its active phase. Currently, the city is fully blocked from the south, southeast and southwest and Russian units actively operation north and east of the city.

Taking into account the recent loss of Volnovakha by pro-Kyiv forces and the advances in Mariupol, the general situation for the Kyiv government and its forces in the southern part of the country looks like almost total collapse of the organized defense. The remaining pro-Kyiv forces act as separate units that try to keep control over important points without any chances for gaining initiative or organizing large counter-attack.

The video of the helicopter landing operation of Russian forces released by the Russian side. The video likely shows operation to take control the Hostomel airfield near Kyiv:

A forward unit of Russian forces operates in Chernihiv region:

A strike on a BMP armoured vehicle of Kyiv’s forces:

On top of this, in the morning of March 12, the Russian Armed Forces carried out another strike with high-precision long-range weapons on the military infrastructure of Ukraine. The Russian side reported that the strike disabled the military airfield in Vasylkov and the Main Centre of Radio and Radio-Intelligence of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Brovory.

During the past day, Russian operational-tactical and army aviation hit 145 military assets of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. 3 anti-aircraft missile systems, 8 command posts and communication centers, 5 ammunition and fuel depots, 78 areas of military equipment concentration were among the targets.

Russian aviation and military air defense forces shot down 5 unmanned aerial vehicles, including 2 Bayraktar TB-2 UAVs and 1 Tochka-U tactical missile.

According to the Russian side, since the start of the operation, Russian forces have disabled 3,491 objects of the military infrastructure of Ukraine. The following military equipment of Kyiv’s forces were destroyed: 123 unmanned aerial vehicles, 1,127 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 115 multiple launch rocket systems, 423 field artillery guns and mortars, 934 units of special military vehicles.

A fresh video showing the work of Ka-52 attack helicopters:

The recent actions of the Kyiv government in the international sphere as well as on the ground (especially actions to sabotage evacuation of civilians from the combat zone) demonstrate that the Ukrainian leadership is not interested in a diplomatic solution of the conflict at the current stage. This posture creates condition for the resumption of the active offensive operations of the Russian Armed Forces across Ukraine. It seems that some kind of ‘diplomatic understanding’ between Moscow and Kyiv could get at least some prospects only after the full collapse of the defense of Kyiv’s forces in Mykolaiv, Kharkiv and Mariupol cities.

Delivery of humanitarian aid to civilians in Ukraine:

A map summary of the military situation in Ukraine as of March 11:

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Toniliu35

Is there anyone know how many ukrop bayaktar and their helicopter or plane left?

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James

The Bayaktar will keep rolling off the production line and into Ukraine for now. Helicopters must surely be dwindling in supply?

Hektor

How much does a unit cost though, they don’t look cheap

The Objective

You guys seem to respect the TB2s a lot more now. I’m guessing you’re wondering why so many Russian destroyed tanks and vehicles. More than 1100 so far

Corrupt Shithole of Ukropisstan

You are mixing up Russian with ukrobot losses. 85gayrackturd are gone sofar, and counting…

Wizzy

Zelensky thought wars are won TV. Ukrop soldiers crying tears in Bucha, some BBC journo visited them

Slobodan

Ukraine Armed Forces have destroyed 17.500 out of 12.000 Russian tanks so far – Cartoon Network reports.

Cromwell

Was it the mickey mouse division.

Vlad the Impaler

They also killed a hundred billion Russian soldiers without suffering even a single casualty, according to CNN

USMC rooting for Russia

Love the humor. Love the Russian people. Tough, honorable, and courageous. Hang in there. You’re fighting for all of us, even if many of the stupid sheeple don’t understand it.

Gary

Glorious Ukies

Yamil Pidorez

why won’t you just shut up motherfucking isisturd

Yuri

somali idiot learns math in teepee—–does cia pay you 1 used condom for your filthy fabrications?

SnowCatzor

There have been literally like 6 or 7 TB-2 strikes throughout the entire war. Meanwhile Ukraine has probably lost all of the original 10 it started with, plus at least 5-10 additional reinforcements. So no, the Turk-Bitch-2 drone is still very much just an over-hyped Wunderwaffe wannabe. But nice try troll.

Btw, how many Russian drone strikes have their been? Scores.

Tony Lizzerri

Hahaha…. riiiight

Erol

Assumed to roughly 1.2-1.5 mio. dollars by defence analysts. But the export price can be much higher than Turkey pays for it. The price should have fallen, because over 250 pieces have already been produced.

Abu Muhammad Allah جثث فاسدة مصاصة الديك

They are expensive for Western countries but are given away for free to members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

The Objective

That’ll be good for this war. At least it’ll teach Putin a good lesson and reduce his appetite for war. Helis aren’t much threat to Russia.

Russian generals likely killed by TB2 strikes.

Corrupt Shithole of Ukropisstan

After tge war there wont be ukropisstan only Kiev oblast of the Russian Federation. Brace yourself…

Wizzy

You really believe the TB2 hype? the Ka-52s are taking them out. Keep em coming as Kiev falls

Yuri

at SF we rely on village idiot pervert for amusement—try new LGBT counseling service provided by CIA for loser traumatized by Russian success toorkys nazis also permitted if lgbt like you

Abu Muhammad Allah جثث فاسدة مصاصة الديك

Ukraine has received its quota and Turkey can not deliver more to Ukraine until IS and al-Qaeda have received their orders.

BetterThanYou

56.

The Objective

It’s more than 56. Ukraine had up to 50 before the war started. Turkey shipped another batch a few days ago. Russia claims to have shot down four, but there isn’t a shred of evidence to back it up. So it means the Ukrainians still have their drone fleet intact.

Pierre

But these TB2 need airfields for take off and landing. The russians are monitoring ukrainian airspace, aren’t they detected? Also, I’m wondering how these TB2 are immune to EW ?

Last edited 2 years ago by Pierre
Erol

Tb2 does not need airfields. In Libya it was hidden in small villages which have connections to streets which were wide enough start and land. That is the reason why Tb2 are still very active in Ukraine. TB2 does not need long air stripes.

Abu Muhammad Allah جثث فاسدة مصاصة الديك

4 are shot down and the rest are destroyed on the ground.

the only drone remains is the objective—she never fails to amuse

KTulu

hard to tell. probably around 25% remaining opertional.

Corrupt Shithole of Ukropisstan

They had a 104jets of various types. I think most the jets are already gone.

The Objective

Ukraine still maintains more that 90% of its TB2s. There’s no evidence whatsoever that Russia has depleted Ukraine’s drone arsenal. They claim to have shot down four out of at least 62 drones by my estimate. Russia’s losses are mounting too fast. I don’t think MANPADs alone are doing the job. The scarcity of TB2 videos doesn’t mean they aren’t active. Ukraine officially does not release the footages because Turkey thinks it’ll irritate Putin more (Erdogan is being neutral in this war). Drone sales to Ukraine are purely transactional. Constantly releasing drone footages will give the idea that Turkey has picked a side. I think there’ll be more TB2 drone footages on Russia than on Armenia. No wonder the Russians have been accusing Turkey of moving militants from Idlib or N-K to Ukraine – a very absurd and unwise move which Erdogan won’t take. Seems to me like Russia indirectly warning Turkey that they’ll heat things up in Idlib if Turkey doesn’t stop selling Ukraine more drones.

Last edited 2 years ago by The Objective
Corrupt Shithole of Ukropisstan

According to Disney news network… Most of the gayrackturds are gone.

mistiick

If they were so effective ukrainians would not bother to recycle azeri nagarno karabakh vids to claim their hits. And the sheer fact that they want more indicates they are low / running low on them. Drone operators are skilled military technician and you cannot easily add new drone operating units during the war. But since they cannot get aircrafts those drones are pretty much only option they have.

The Objective

But how do you explain the scarcity of videos or images of downed TB2s. It doesn’t make any sense. Russia should demonstrate to the world that they have overcome the TB2 challenge. Russian generals were on TV explaining how easily it would be for Russia to deal with the drones. We’ve seen several videos of drone strikes on Russian targets, but none from Russia’s side. I don’t think over 1100 tanks and armor loses came by Ukraine’s MANPADs. It just doesn’t add up.

Josh

Russia has a professional army, they don’t go with a gopro and a phone to record all their targets (it’s forbidden). Only some are given the task to record. Your bloody war will come to an end and all the ukranian neonazi that are still alive with zelenskyy will all be trialed, hopefully in the russian country.

Yuri

truth is painful for nazi Somali toorky

HB_norica

“But how do you explain the scarcity of videos or images of downed TB2s.”

Maybe unlike the Ukrainians the Russians don’t reach for their smartphones when in a firefight.

Ukrainians are certainly kicking Russian asses in memes and selfies however it’s the Russians who are taking ground and so far not a single Ukrainian strike on Russia territory … if only the country with the most likes won wars.

The Truth

11000000000 tanks all destroyed by Ghost of Kiev and garbage Erdogan dildo-drones, you braindead idiot must be drugged like Zelensky on turkish cocaine if you believe laughable ukro-nato lies… Clueless imbecile, the only thing ‘special’ about turdish drones (and drones in general) is they always film their kill. If they killed 1000000000000000 godzillion tanks, they would film it. Moron. We saw only a few of badly edited, pixilated crap, supposedly attacks on some lonely truck in the woods, and non-operational BUKs (probably ukrainian). How do you think Russian air defense (or any other) are going to film destruction of shitty drones? With their cell phones?? You think they are going to search ukrainian woods and fields for remains of small wrecked Baryacrap (not much remains of that crap after being hit by missile). Why wasting time and risking soldiers, they can be ambushed while searching for this shit. How stupid are you not to understand this? In this war Baryacrap is nothing but nuisance at the best, not some miracle wonder weapon; Ukros just wasted a lot of money on that overhyped garbage, better they upgraded their air defence; and btw most kills early in the war were by Soviet Grad’s and now by NATO supplied ATs, not by your shitty little drone. You delusional fuckin idiot.

Last edited 2 years ago by The Truth
Bubbaorwell

Ukraine releases EVERY video of their way effort and many many that aren’t real. If they have video evidence of a successful attacs there is no way they aren’t releasing them.

The Objective

According to Oryx, they are not releasing it yet because that Ukraine’s official stance. I’m not sure, but something doesn’t feel right about the mounting Russian loses. We are talking about over 1100 tanks and armor destroyed or captured in 14 DAYS! That’s fucking huge.

Okay, so if the drones aren’t bombing Russian soldiers, where are the TB2s? Russia hasn’t produced any reasonable evidence to prove that the drones have been dealt with. Russia is creating false intel that Turkey is moving militants from Idlib to Ukraine. What this allegation means is that Idlib has declared war on Russia and Russia is obliged to retaliate in kind (attack/invade Idlib). Why are they cooking up this false intel? I saw an article on Global Research warning Turkey of the consequences of the TB2s. Obviously, Russia is sending the signal to Turkey to stop the drone sales to Ukraine.

America, Europe and Ukraine are pestering Turkey to do more for Ukraine (sell/send more drones but Erdogan appears to be resisting and sending just a fraction of what is needed). That’s why Erdogan wants this war to end asap. He’s between a rock and a hard place. If he refuses Ukraine’s request, he may appear to be an unreliable ally. Don’t forget Ukraine is providing the engines for some of turkey’s best drones. Yet, if Erdogan fulfils Ukraine’s demand, Russia will be pissed off and could make trouble for Erdogan in Syria or even sanction Turkey.

I think this is why Ukraine is not releasing much TB2 footages. They don’t want to further complicate Erdogan’s position as doing so might discourage him from providing more.

Yuri

your desperation now farcical

The Truth

“I think this is why Ukraine is not releasing much TB2 footages.” Ukros are trying to hide Russian losses hahahaha you are more retarded than jens holm if you believe that. Read my comment above and stop making a fool of yourself.

Yuri

there is plenty of evidence that you are a paid cia cretin nazi whose lies are well known at SF

The maharaja

“There is no evidence whatsoever” So the 40 mile long convoy that sat on the side of the road for five days straight totally unmolested is not evidence? The Russians have no fear of attack from the sky. This is proof of that and its not some idiotic claim of they have 90% how the hell would you know? You in the UAF ?

Corrupt Shithole of Ukropisstan

Most their jets are toast. They have a dozen+ helos left hiding somewhere. Most the SAM and radar stations and command centers are toast as well. I think the worst is behind the Russian side and ahead of the Ukrobot side, except is they surrender. But Ciaisis and Azovisis won’t let that happen. It will be the fal of Berlin part II.

The Objective

You are wrong. The CIA hasn’t started shipping arms and fighter to yet (figuratively). The U.S just announced a nearly $14 billion in aid to Ukraine. Europe announced about a billion with likely increases in the future. Governments are secretly funding the Ukrainian war. Mercs and volunteers are pouring in from all over the world. Even besieging ALL of Ukraine’s cities won’t win the war for Russia. Ukraine is already awash with weapons and fighters. It’s one thing to besiege the cities. But a different thing to take them. Russia will succeed to a great extent in limiting weapons flows to Ukraine if it manages to besieged half of Ukraine, it’ll still have a lot of fighting to do. Demilitarizing and Denazifying Ukraine requires way more than besieging cities.

Yuri

I enjoy nazi desperation—-yours is particularly pathetic

Starik

Wait until the citizens start getting rid of those vermin with their own hands.

Yuri

true!

The Objective

At least 90% of TB2s are still flying. They are pinpointing Russian forces to Ukrainians and also blowing up command posts, tanks, logistical convoys, troops, and also killing Generals. Videos will become more available after the war. For now, most released TB2 footages were unofficial (leaked). Their effectiveness can be seen from Ukraine’s constant demand for Turkey to supply more.

KTulu

you are druged. they barely have 1-2 hits per day.

Timmy Temperance

Even if you are right, what is the Ukrainian objective then? To live in besieged cities like cattle herded into a pen? How long do you think the civilians will endure such hardship without asking why Zelensky is not negotiating to find a settlement to the conflict? Those Gayraptor drones are large and expensive, and even your mothers c*nt is not slack enough to hide them and certainly does not have the earning potential required to keep purchasing those drones. Russia will just find out where they are parked and destroy them on the ground, as they are already doing. Plus if Putin makes an arms trade that is favourable to Turkey then you can forget about the drone contract anyway.

tasos

Good .No problem for the Ukrainians .In a few days they are going to march up to Moscow. Or not?

NATO psyop

Behold the “Turkish” Bayraktar drone being made of NATO technology and NATO parts:

https://anca.org/assets/pdf/BayraktarDrone_US_Nato_Technology.pdf

Abu Muhammad Allah جثث فاسدة مصاصة الديك

No one claims that Turkey invented gunpowder. Far from it. But they have many mosques where the intelligentsia spends most of their time.

Last edited 2 years ago by Abu Muhammad Allah جثث فاسدة مصاصة الديك

mosques are stolen architecture from Byzantines (Romans/Greeks).

Sörenson

To all those fanatic Putin fan-boys and girls here. There is one important question I have. You always call everybody not of your opinion “Nazis”, you call the Ukrainian people, defending their country against an invading foreign army “Nazis”.

And you say Putin is against Nazi etc. right ?

But given the facts shouldn t you be big fans of Hitler indeed ? Because you obviously sympathize with the reasons he went to war for. See: He went into Russia with lots of armed forces saying he wants to “demilitarize it” (aka quote: crush the Red Army) and “de-communismize it ( aka quote: destroy communism there).

Today/Nowadays Putin invaded Ukraine saying he’s rightfully doing it because he wants to “demilitarize it” and “de-nazify it. So now please tell me, why is it that when Hitler said these things and came to visit Russia, it was a bad thing, a raid, a crime, very evil blah blah. But when now Putin is doing the exact same thing with Ukraine, and even gives the exact same reasons for why he is doing it – that suddenly is not bad, not raid, not a crime, not very evil blah blah ?

Please tell me why it is evil when Hitler did, but when nowadays jew Putin is doing it, it is ok ? Where’s the logic in that ?

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James

I don’t think anybody round here cares for your opinion. We have the facts for ourselves and have made up our minds.

Corrupt Shithole of Ukropisstan

Wrong as usual ukrobot. Nazis wanted to ethnic clense whole Eastern Europe the Soviet Union included. You also generously forget about the fact that Azovisis and Co genocided Donbas and Lugansk for 8 years. Better luck next time Trollstoy 🤗🤡

The Objective

There is no reasoning with the Russians. I figured out long ago that they are more evil than America due to their hastiness in resorting to war. They seem to like war as much as the Israelis. If Russia had half the power of America, I’m pretty sure they’ll wage a lot more wars than the U.S. Putin modernized and built up the Russian military not to defend Russia but to invade and intimidate other countries. Thankfully, his military equipment has proven easy target for some really cheap drones. Imagine what the outcome would be if Ukraine had long-range standoff missiles and a modern sizeable airforce. The TB2s would have devastated Russian forces more than they are doing now.

To the guy who asked about the number of TB2s left with Ukraine, my informed estimate is at least 90%. The reason is that Russia uploads images and videos of many Ukrainian loses except the TB2. They claim shooting down 4 so far – out of a 50+ TB2s in Ukraine’s arsenal. Yet, Russia doesn’t produce any proof. Considering the intense info war targeting Russia today, I’d think fallen TB2s would be the first things they’ll upload online. Secondly, the Ukrainians are so proud of their TB2s that they are dedicating songs to it. Imagine the damage to morale it’d cause were Russia to be publishing evidence after evidence of downed TB2s. It’d certainly make the Ukrainians feel less powerful because TB2s are some of their most potent weapons.

For the Russian idiots on this forum, understand that this time, Putin has made a really dangerous choice. It’s clear as daylight that he did not expect such a huge price for this war. At least 8% of Russia’s military has been destroyed in TWO WEEKS! Imagine what would happen if this war grinds on for several months.

Why Aren’t TB2 Footages Coming Up More Frequently Like Before

The reason is that Turkey doesn’t want them broadcasted. Erdogan is portraying the TB2 sales to Ukraine as a purely business transaction, not military aid. Ukraine understands that Erdogan wants to maintain a neutral position, and constantly publishing those drone strike videos will portray a different image.

Have you wondered why Russia is losing so many tanks and armored vehicles? MANPADs alone cannot inflict this level of destruction.

Last edited 2 years ago by The Objective
Corrupt Shithole of Ukropisstan

So much effort to post BS… You ukroptrash are really desperate nowadays.

benjy

Remenber USA in Viêtnam, in Irak, and aller thé conflicts they loose against poor people. They are crazy like the Nazis. Now they are crying and lieing because they are down. So Russia win against NATO,

Sörenson

Personally I’ve come to the conclusion that apart from that’s it is all just a big movie for the people to be fooled, there is another layer in it. This strange obvious weakness of the Red army is true but not really. I guess the plan behind it was: Go in – and win quick, and see the reaction of the so-called West. If plan fails and lots of resistance is put up then stop resp. move forward slow but steady and secretly start the big thing. Which is to prepare large invasion army in the background that will suddenly break loose and overrum NATO countries like Poland, Germany, France etc. and “demilitarize” and “de-nazify” them, so that also from them there will be no “aggression” anymore. That this will cause World War 3 is included in the calculations, hence the special weaponary, high-grade electronic warfare gear, and very fast nuclear-capable rocketsystems (hypersonic) which Russia has in stock and are much faster than the US ones, so that US will by shy to use atomic warfare as defence of Europe, and reaction, the moment the russian invasion army overruns Europe.

Yes, I know, it may sound like madness, but I really think that this is the solution of the mystery and the question (which may people here are already asking) resp. why russian army is so weak in Ukraine now ? It was a two choice strategy – easy, quick small war and win – or not easy, not quick, not small war and win. And now the preparations for Phase 2 is running, after Phase 1 has proven that Phase 2 is needed. That’s also what Putin stated, that the West will get a reaction from Russia which they didn t expect and haven t got in all history. Therefore he is now playing weak, so that Europe and NATO feels safe and nobody expects what will happen soon. So better we all now should prepare for that. It is not so far away anymore. Months, yes but not years. In Germany is a famous comic, with a often drunk guy (Werner) saying: “Eckehard, die Russen kommen !” – but now this indeed could become reality. Therefore mark my words folks, and hope that i am not right with what i predict.

Last edited 2 years ago by Sörenson
Clyde

Your posts are hard evidence that people should not inhale solvents for recreation.

The Objective

No amount of aggression from Ukraine will make Russia get into a nuclear war. There’s a limit to what the Russian would let Putin drag them into. Does Putin not lose in a nuclear war? No, I think if there’s ever to be a nuclear war, it’ll be between the West and some Muslim countries. These are the two adversaries capable of using nukes against each other.

I don’t think Putin wanted a slow steady war like you said. Otherwise, why is he reacting with anger and surprise at the level of military support Ukraine is getting? I know very well that the CIA can make Ukraine another Afghanistan for Russia. Putin knows this too. So why would he deliberately walk into a trap like that?

Your prediction that Russia may ever dream to overrun Europe doesn’t hold up to reality. First, it risks a war with NATO. Then, Germany is NOT Ukraine. If Russia is having this much difficulty OVERUNNING Ukraine, what makes you think they’d attempt the same thing with a more powerful Germany?

There are only two ends to this war that I foresee: 1) Russia gets bogged down in a prolonged conflict (extremely likely) 2) Russia negotiates an end to the war after taking some key cities (less likely because Ukraine will be encouraged and supported by the West to keep fighting until the Russians pack up and leave.

They are sanctioning Russia and its economy will weaken greatly over the next few years. At a point, the economic pain will be too much for Russian citizens to continue supporting the war. Human and material destruction in Ukraine will pile more blame and pressure on Russia. Putin will forced to end the war or face the wrath of Russians. That’s the point where he will withdraw from Ukraine without any preconditions.

Yuri

stupid immoral cretin—does cia pay w taco or condom

The maharaja

you write way too much. hint nobody gives a shit what you think.

Sörenson

Quote. ” I don’t think Putin wanted a slow steady war like you said”.

Of course not. And that is also not what I said. Or maybe you misunderstood what I said (likely because my english is not the best anymore).

I said: He wanted small, easy and quick war, of course. But if that quick version fails (which it did), then the second plan (the emergency plan) is to overrun Europe in a whole – in order to finish off all anti-russian aggression and weapon-support capabilities of European NATO countries once and for all.

And in order to do this with success (win that), he (Putin) now plays weak. As he needs to play weak to disguise plan 2. Therefore showing weak army and slow progress in Ukraine now, so that everybody (especially in NATO European command positions) thinks “uhh the Red Army is history. Nowadays at best a risk for poor countries like Ukraine, but not for us, the mighty Europe and our NATO armies. The embarassingly weak performance of todays Red Army – their high losses and slow progress in Ukraine fully prove it.” (This misconceptional thinking Putin wants to put inside the NATO leaders heads. And he does so by ‘playing weak’ in Ukraine now)

But in fact that picture of “slow but steady progress” this shown “weakness” in Ukraine is on purpose. It is just a trick from Putin to lure the NATO into thinking, that the Red Army is no match for it.

So that NATO feels safe, and will be fully shocked and surprised when suddenly unaccounted of large cohorts of russian tanks and highly organized masses of russian troops are storming in lightining-speed through their countries, and crushing all NATO resistance within short time.

I hope that i am not right with what i predict, but sadly there is the possibility that the above mentioned things are really in the pipeline.

Last edited 2 years ago by Sörenson
WTF

That was a big mouthful of diarrhea ^

“He wanted small, easy and quick war, of course. But if that quick version fails (which it did), then the second plan (the emergency plan) is to overrun Europe in a whole” Whut!? You somehow know his main plan was a small war, but if this small war fails his emergency plan is a huge war to take entire Europe?? Seriously, you are a fucking idiot. not just a brainwashed fool but a complete and total idiot. In what idiotic reality and distorted dimension of madness your nonsense make any sense or logic…

Sörenson

You obviously do not understand what I suggested in the above comment:

I said: Maybe it is like some drunk guy calling you names: You can eighter react by looking at him in a grim way. And telling him: “Do this again, and you’ll wish to have never been born”, and hope he is so impressed and shocked by this threatening that he will stop bullying you and shut his dirty mouth. But if that threatening fails to bring the wanted effect, then plan B is to just give that guy a direct knock-out punch to the head, as hard as you can, to solve that problem once and for all.

And that is, what I said might be going on between Putin and EU countries. (at least from Putin’s perspective) Putin invading Ukraine with relatively small army, with force but not with “gloves off” and without total use of all possible weaponary (like for example thermobarics etc.) is likely the same as this above mentioned threating/warning against that drunk bum to shut up.

EU countries is given the option to stop supporting Ukraine and let the small russian invading force do what it wants to Ukraine. Or if EU does the opposite and pumps troops and weapons into Ukraine and keep up their logistical and political support for Ukraine as well, then the big hammer is put out by Putin, and the surprise knock-out blow against the EU states is to follow, in order to end the situation once and for all.

It is just speculation, nothing more of course. But the longer I thought about it, the more likely it became to me, that that might be what is behind the current strange weakness of the russian Red Army in Ukraine.

If you think that’s wrong, then you need to tell us, what you think, why Putin’s army boys run around in Ukraine like retards, and get killed like flies there, with half the motorized brigades, tanks, trucks etc. already destroyed, and the whole Army looking more like an offspring from Duck Tales than the mighty Red Army.

Last edited 2 years ago by Sörenson
Yuri

nazi conclusions are always wrong—you losers are farcical

hmm

Sörenson and The Objective probably the same schizophrenic imbecile.

Clyde

The Russians are hastier than the Americans in resorting to war? That’s just an absurd statement. There is no Russian conflict to compare to the US destruction of the North Korean infrastructure and murder of 20% of the population by aerial bombardment in the 1050-53 period. No Russian conflict to compare to the US war in Vietnam in which 3 million Vietnamese died. Nothing like the destruction of Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya. The Russians tried to defend civilization in Afghanistan while CIA used the Mujahadeen and the global jihadi kooks to destabilize Russia, and the result was the Taliban and a twenty-year failed US occupation. The US dropped more bombs on Laos than were dropped on Germany and Japan combined in WW2. The US launched major wars in Iraq twice within fifteen years, the second completely destabilizing the entire region. Count the number of countries subjected to air attack by the US since 1945 and compare it to the number subjected to air attack by Russia. Your post has to be a joke, as there’s no way somebody could be as ignorant of the facts or as stupid as you seem to be.

Sörenson

Quote Clyde: “No Russian conflict to compare to the US war in Vietnam in which 3 million Vietnamese died. Nothing like the destruction of Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya…”

Hear, hear, you really believe that ? Don t you ?

First it is not “russian”, as since 1917 Russia is no more, since then it is communist (judeo-communist as communism is a jewish-invented ideology). That is the first thing you need to know.

Have you ever heard of the so-called “Russian revolution” and the massmurdering commited by the Bolshewiks and the Cheka ? Did you ever hear of Stalin, and what he did to he native people of lots of then states of the UDSSR. The Crimea-Tartars or for example the Ukrainians ? Holodomor the massmurder of mio. of Ukrainian by starving them to death on purpose. You never heard of that ? Have you ever heard of Mao and China and how murderous the communist takeover of China was, and how he starved millions to death and made the kids snitch on their own parents for “anti-government opinion” ? In order to then arrest and kill them.

Did you ever hear of Cambodia and Pol Pot and his super-massmurderous Red Khmer communist army murdering several millions of innocent Cambodians ?

Just because the USA does its genocides louder, does not mean the communists are the lesser evil. Their genocidal wars were always much bigger and more gruelful then the US ones. Type : Polpot. Or ask the old german civilian population, what happened to those who fell into the russians hands in 1944-45. Maybe google for the name “Nemmersdorf” to get your head straight, regarding who is the bigger monster !

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hmm

Pol Pot was supported by the US you utterly braindead degenerate.

Sörenson

Red Khmer where communists. And I told you BOTH USA AND UDSSR is jewish. So when you look at the bigger picture, anyway, there is no US versus RU. Or RU vs. UKR and all that nonsense. It is jewish leaders on both sides riding non-jewish soldiers and countries into deep shit.

That’s it. But you morons don t get it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge

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Yuri

evil uncivilized somali justifies toorky isis imperialism in syria/libya/cyprus—you are an immoral hypocrite….even erdogon refuses any sanctions on Russia…your cia version of reality is pathetic—even for insecure feminized lgbt

benjy

Hi Mister donc you Want to Dieu fort NATO ? It is your choice.

Carlo

I’m not going to call you “Nazi” but typical brainwashed man. What about Donbas people is fighting to free their land from Zelinsky gangs? Are they Ukrainians or what? This war started on 2014 after your “Maidan” coup d’etat.

Sunny

> You always call everybody not of your opinion “Nazis” The twitterbot is projecting again. It probably called someone a Nazi this morning for not having a desire to worship gays and trannies. But when Russia calls militant groups who follow Nazi doctrine and call themselves Nazis, then suddenly they are not actual Nazis because CNN said so.

Honestly why do you even post here? You’ve already proven yourself to be a complete retard and not 1 individual here falls for your crap. Wasting my bandwidth here.

Abu Muhammad Allah جثث فاسدة مصاصة الديك

Statistically, 72% of a country’s population is popularly called the flock of sheep. Are the same who have religious affiliation. The remaining 28% are self-thinking people. Politicians in all countries depend on the largest group. That is why there is a lot of chaos in the world.

Very true what you say.

Yuri

you may address your trauma by new cia service http://www.tramatized-nazi-lgbt-counseling.com they advertise free rape for clients like you—no condom or lube

Starik

very “important question” indeed, you asshole. Go back to the pub, please!

BetterThanYou

‘Specialists’, lol. Those specialists that are unable to defeat a lesser army for 2 weeks now? Those specialists that are being burned and dismembered in hundreds and left to rot, never to be heard of or seen again? Those specialists that are leaving there tanks behind cause of lack of fuel? Those specialsits that are dying out of hunger cause there leaders were thinking the war is gonna be over in 2 days? What ‘specialists’ they are, lol. One more week and those specialists are going to beg for mercy. ;)

Hektor

Cope and seeth

The Objective

Putin’s army was extremely overrated before this war. I’m surprised Kiyev didn’t fall in two weeks of full-blown war with Russia. I’m also surprised Russia lost more than 1100 tanks and war machines in just 14 DAYS!

Clyde

How’s the Ukrainian ATO going in Donbas? Have the Ukrainians taken back Crimea today? Have to maintain that territorial integrity! It’s great to see all the NATO arms and training and special forces operator support paying off as the last few Russians are captured and the rest retreat home. Glory to heroes!

Yuri

nobody surprised by your lies

Corrupt Shithole of Ukropisstan

Indeed, ukrobots are toast. Slava DPR.

The Objective

So are the thousands of dead Russians and their smoldering machines.

Peppe il Sicario

The Americ*nts and their British allies are such pussies and dickless meatheads they don’t even dare take on Russia in a direct head to head face-off ’cause they know what the end result will be. Same goes for Iran and China. They need their proxies or else its tons of body bags going back home. Face up to it, you’re worthless and weak.

The Objective

They are not taking you head-on because they are smarter than you trigger-happy Russians. America is fighting you indirectly and you do not even realize it. If the Russian state continues to be so reactionary, America will succeed in breaking up Russia like it broke up the Soviet Union. The U.S has grown weaker, but they still have powerful minds that can destroy nations (Russia included). I can remember reading a research paper in 2020 where the authors suggested that America should lure Russia into wars close to Russia’s borders. These wars would force Russia to expend resources they would have diverted to fighting America. Can’t believe Putin stepped into this trap with his eyes wide open despite such a report being published openly by American think tanks two years ago.

Peppe il Sicario

America has been high off its fart hubris for generations. A country of deluded cucks whose chickens are coming home to roost.

Clyde

Isn’t it amazing that you figured out that this is a new phase of the US war against Russia, but not one person in the Russian military, government nor intelligence agencies, nor academics were able to see this? Man, you are smart! I suppose that the Russians decided to commit to major combat operations in the Ukraine in the face of eight years of NATO support of the Kiev Klown Kar and the Krazy Kiev nuclear weapons gambit because they wanted a piece of that third-world Ukrainian economy, not because the US hybrid war reached a new level that required a significant kinetic military response. I don’t understand why you’re posting in comment forums instead of acting as Secretary of State, or runnning the Rand Corporation. Truly, we are blessed to drink from the font of your wisdom.

IMHO

Your comments only prove your stupidity.

Only idiots would think this was only going to take days or weeks. That is just propaganda for the ignorant masses.

Only an idiot video game retard thinks you can go to war without losses.

The rest of your inane comment cements your total lack of intelligence.

Sadly I suspect you are one of my fellow Americans. I hope I meet you some day and hear you spout this drivel face to face. But I suspect your cowardice matches your stupidity so that probably won’t happen.

Yuri

cia detected

Sörenson

True points you made. But now the angered Putin fan boys here will swarm you like angry bees whom you took their honey away.

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Starik

How much shekels did you have for this? ahahahah

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joe

Russia wasting time negotiate with thugs. Furthermore, you can’t trust thugs

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Corrupt Shithole of Ukropisstan

A Krasnopol a day keeps Azovisis away 🤗

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Corrupt Shithole of Ukropisstan

CIAtrolls and ukrobots are crying and raging 🤗🤡

Corrupt Shithole of Ukropisstan

Slava Rossiye 🇷🇺

Sörenson

Some here say: The West is evil. It’s politicians – very evil. US jew government and Canada jew-government is arresting, censoring and even murdering the people, and I agree – but yes russia is doing the same so why choose between them. If russia jew-government murder me instead of let’s say UKR-jew government. That’s much better !??? No it isn t ! So stop falling to this trap of “choosing” between two evils, (behind which – in fact – the real evil is hiding, and you not seeing it)

Can t you folks see that it is JEWS ON BOTH SIDES orchestrating these whole world dictatorship and the US vs. RU Hoax ? It is them pushing the nations into war and decline !!! Wake up people ! There is not much time left ! Biden administration is fully jewish, Federal Reserve Bank and Wallstreet is jewish, Merkel is jewish, Putin is jewish, Erdogan is jewish (Dönmeh jew) and so on and on.

This whole thing is mankind watching a jewish produced hollywood movie, without realizing that it is just a big movie and all the figures are actors playing and acting exactly on behalf of what (for example) background masterjew Spielberg is telling them to do. This is the Matrix, but you need to leave the Matrix in order to realize that its just a matrix, a movie with a film-set and actors-team behind it that takes your attention and makes you see this film, and NOT see the reality resp. the truth. It is covering the true world, hiding the real leaders of the world and the real perpetrators of the real evil that is from your eyes.

US+EU+RU+China. They are one ! They all are part of the NWO/JWO. Their current “conflicts” is just a big movie, played and shown to you never-learning people, in order to fool you into fighting each other. That’s also why jews say they are the masterrace (see speech of ex-israel prime-minister Menachim Begin). They base it on their talmuds recognition that non-jews are not able of thinking , at least not better than common animals. That’s why they call all non-jews Goyim. Which means ‘human-like cattle / cattle in human-shape”‘ . I know these claim of them not fully true, as there are clever people in ever country. But sadly, when seeing the comments of some people here in this blog, I have to say, maybe these satanic jewish worms, at least in that point are not so far away from the truth. It is all so obvious and still people here, seem not able to get it, and are still screaming about “the evil West” – oh no “the evil East”, its the Americans, oh no it is the Russians, no its the Chinese, no no its the Ukrainain government, backed by the lovely EU, oh no wait wait backed by the evil EU, Russia will beat US… no,no US will beat Russia blah blah.

ITS IS JEWS !!! JEWS ! And as long as you folks not get it, the only one who will get a beating is you folks, because most of you are still not using your brains and falling to all and every cheap and stupid jewish trap and tricks they put for you, and are allowing them to push you from one idiocity into the next, from one stupid World War into the other etc. without even realizing it !

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Timmy Temperance

No, stop trying to subvert the argument. Politics of the West is about money. You sound like half the people at my University and in my family. Live your life on a real basis. What are the major social influences and prevailing attitudes in your country? Here in UK a major theme directed by the Government and Governmental institutions is the promotion of alternative sexualities, and so if you have different attitudes or even realise that such propaganda is exactly that then you will be in for a rough time. Especially in the town where I live most people are very intolerant in terms of race and religion. Unfortunately many Muslims blame Israel for everything, whilst many white people hate anyone of different ethnic backgrounds. Most of the people who follow me around are either Islamists (I use that term because they are harassing me on the basis of their made-up beliefs) or racists. Also, lesbians particularly seem to have a problem with tall, strong, attractive, well-traveled and well-educated men (i.e. me) and they often also try to weasel their way onto my radar in malicious ways. But how about this, live your life like a reverse Jesus: I don’t care who someone is in terms of any demographic characteristic, if they try to bully me and especially if they are part of an organised network of people who share information and target people (i.e. me) then I will defend myself and not allow myself to be bullied by them. So you don’t have to ask, I am not Jewish and never claim to be.

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Sörenson

Sorry but you are really stupid. Your misunderstanding is so complete, that talking to you most likely is really pure waste of time. Joowry is an arc-old satanic mafia organisation, wandering earth since at least 2000 years, but likely much longer. They did and do satanic rituals, cheat, rob, and kill by poisoning people in large masses (see nowadays again with the Corona deadly so-called mRNA vaccines). In history lots of countries all around the world but mostly in Europe kicked these satanists out again and again. But came back like lice always till progroms started and so on.

And already back in 2000 years ago, these wandering demons decided it would be clever to disguise their criminal diabloic mafiasect as being a “religion” so that nobody would touch them anymore, and so that they could do their dirty business without getting jailed or killed easily. They started marrying only among themselves, brother with mother, sister with uncle and so on – pure inbred over 2000 years. Which created an even more wicked brute, which therefore is often, no without reason – as you just learned – called “a race” because they are really – now after more then 2000 years something like that. A diabolic parasitic morph between mafia, religion, race. The true pest of mankind !

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4иđ1

Your hysterical thoughts ( that the war is a jewish plot where noone here mentions something about the jewish ) and the ” blah blah ” you are reminding me that crazy girl called Greta Thunberg funded by WEF.

Anyway saw your previous comments about the conflict and either you are young and you lack hystorical knowledge about the Ukrainian history or also you are probably brainwashed western citizen and like most people you live in parallel universe.

Universal Order

You are arguing with mentally ill NPCs and paid shills, these people don’t think so you’re wasting your time trying to have a civil argument. That’s why I just troll them these days, it’s so easy to make them seethe lmao

Ghost of Zelensky

The only mentally ill NPC here is you sick, moronic degenerate admitting the only purpose in your sad lonely ‘life’ is being a troll here… although you are a failure even as a troll. I doubt even Ukros pay you, you are utterly and completely worthless. Not even a troll, you are just a turd.

blahblah

I stopped reading at the first sentence, moronic worthless gibberish by deranged nazi troll with 10000 names.

Ivan

The juice diddit, for sure. They woke up the goyim and now they have to shut it down. Hey presto, culling time!

Peppe il Sicario

We’re witnessing the beginning of the collective takedown of the entire criminal NWO West starting from Europe. The Euro-rat elites are noticeably in deep panic mode trying to convince their populace thru their cess-pool media that the Russians are losing to the brave and heroic Ukranians, while the situation on the ground couldn’t be so far removed from this reality. What they can’t control however is the rising prices of petrol, gas, food etc. and now the rationing has started at the supermarkets. How long will this last until the starving masses begin to attack city halls, police stations. the political and judicial administrative centers and eventually the parliament building themselves?

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Peppe il Sicario

To see what is happening along the front lines, I’d suggest following independent journalist Patrick Lancaster. I’m pretty sure he’s American and embedded with the DPR/LPR militia. In any case, his multiple daily video feeds show the destruction in the war zones which is enormous beyond belief and often caused by the Ukranian forces themselves upon their own civilians. Needless to say, they will never show this in Western cess-pool media.

Timmy Temperence

He has been there since 2014. He is British.

Peppe il Sicario

OK, thanks. I didn’t know of his exact nationality, but I was aware that he’s been there since 2014. His accent seems to have become “Americanized” to an extent in the interim somehow.

Timmy Temperance

My bad. He is American according to his linked in profile.

Timmy Temperence

I am glad they hit the airfields where millions of dollars worth of Gayraptor drones were parked.

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Timmy Temperence

I am guessing those Igla came from Poland or Bulgaria if they were not old new Ukrainian stock?

Timmy Temperence

Having an airfield close to Kiev will allow rapid resupply for the Russian forces there.

Bob - Enough

Could somebody with more knowledge of the situation than me help me out please…. why have the Russians left Odessa alone ?; would that not be relatively simple to mop up ?.

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lksdlsknds dsjod

this is not an full scale russian operation,the main force with high tec weapons are on the western russian border,because a ww3 is always possible therein uk is a lack of man power

Rose

The takeover of Ukraine was expected to last 7 days, up to March 2. More than 10 days now that the offensive has stalled. I think Russia and the US is laying a trap to the EU and Germany, they want them to dispatch a lot of weapons to Ukraine, this way, it will make the attack of Poland, the Baltic states and Germany easier after destroying all the foreign weapons sent to Ukraine.

Yuri

nonsense—I expect 6 months

Max

Expected by whom?

Justaguy

Not to over simply but geography and transportation networks, just look at the map. It’s not a pressing priority itself at the moment due to the geography that needs to be secured or pocket’d first on their way to that eventual objective.

Wizzy

Unless Kiev is shown an intent of real destruction of the city, these chaps still have hope. Level a part of Kiev

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japanosuke

Ukrainian supporters are panicking🤣

Karl Wolfe

At least a few things have been shown to be true: International Freemasonry that is behind the poison death jabs and Unit 5200 are highly, highly active to destroy Russia after being thrown out of power 30 years ago. All of the 1917 communist leadership and the former kgb were of a particular ethnicity and they sure didn’t like having Russia a Free and Democratic and not under the yoke of the atheist, murdering, communist Soviet Union. The hokum about their “mistreatment” in the Soviet Union was the usual smoke and mirrors: they CREATED IT, ran the secret police there and Putin threatens their New World Order. How? Because he believes in the inherent goodness of Humanity to work together, tries to work for that in his conduct as a world leader , and he’s an actual practicing Christian and that makes him their number one target.

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Abu Muhammad Allah جثث فاسدة مصاصة الديك

Feb 28 2022 The EU believes that Belarus is sending thousands of migrants to the EU’s external borders to create problems. Looks like Lukashenko has received expert help from US-NATO

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marc

when the neonazi forces in the donetsk-city front will be encircled, the end will be near for the USA’s 20-year plan for UKR.

Nobody discusses why there’s so little movement in that frontline. Is this a huge RUS trap for neonazis?

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Josh

It’s a siege… they’re trying to get all the civilians dissert out of hunder or desperation and flee the city. dirty neonazis are hiding behind women with children in their arms…

Justaguy

I’ll posit a worthless arm-chair general guess if you want one. Among other things it would appear mainly they want to cut UA forces into pockets first, or a bunch of disconnected blobs that are unable to easily re-supply or aid each other as well, if you will.

Timmy Temperance

How is that for racism? Abramovich has just been barred from directing the football club in which he invested billions of his own money because he is Russian.

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Sunny

Selective racism is okay. You just need to watch CNN to be informed about who you are allowed to discriminate against. For example, not taking a knee in front of a black man, that’s a big no no. Openly calling for the death of someone who is from Russia, well that’s okay though and highly encouraged. Just listen to the CNN overlord’s, they’ll tell ya what is and is not a thoughtcrime.

Martina Lauer

Glad to see the delivery of aid. Kiev government just sees the population as human shields. Like their insane overlords in Washington.

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KristyRasmussen

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SuperDave

CENSORED: See Oliver Stone’s “Ukraine On Fire” IN FULL https://banned.video/watch?id=62293b42456fae60bcdda47f

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Tony Lizzerri

To be honest, I’d love to see Zelensky beaten to a pulp, stepped on, shot, stabbed and tortured – and then the Russians should get rough.

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