The Syrian Army and its allies have repelled an ISIS advance and restored control over the Palmyra-Deir Ezzor highway. Government forces have also advanced on the ISIS-held town of Mayadin east of Deir Ezzor and captured many points there.
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Nice,I like this much better – Jihadi-map is still clutching to lost hopes with lots of black everywhere still
The area southeast of Sukhna must be liberated and T2 station to avoid another ISIS attack
They wont do it man its khanasser all over again then maybe after 5 attacks theyll think abt it lol sadly
Nope, leave it open and draw the roaches in, then light ’em up. It’s unlikely IS will try it again in any case as they have lost a great deal of manpower and vehicles/tanks and will likely pull back to defend their ever-diminishing territory.
The most strategic target are the oilfields east of Euphrates. They will pay for the rebuild of Syria. Without the oil income, Syria will stay in ruins. Unfortunately the SDF is in a much better position to take them. It will make a direct confrontation between SAA and SDF unavoidable.
Actually that is not entirely true. The SAA is now in better position to retake the oil fields. They can cross the river and retake them but first they need to retake al mayaden as Isis could easily outflank the SAA is they crossed the river without liberating the city. The SDF is not advancing towards the oil fields but rather north of it in order to build up momentum and support the advance towards the Omar oil fields by several advances from several directions. This takes time. In short terms, if the SAA can liberate can liberate al mayaden in the upcoming week (which is very likely), they will be first to liberate the oil fields.
I hope so. What demonic plans are the Israelis and the US working on though?
well whatever they are planning will fail…..they cannot be compared with the Russian strategy planners…..Syria is the proof to that…..with a handful of aircrafts, almost no troops on the ground..they have managed the unthinkable….to turn the tide that was against SYria ,around and now ISIS faces annihilation
this was veeeery weak and false comment from you. FYI, israeli strategy planners repeatedly won against soviet/russian planners.
Make your own comment.Don’t criticize us. Israeli ashhole .
Comment the asshole of your father and dont enter in the discussion of others, you nazi scum.
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Thats no critisism. More like an evalution, where You might listen and improve.
I have folowed those routine talks and negosiation during many years and see them as a whole movie. Its a process, where both win and loose. A learning minimum could be not to do the same mistakes again. Another could be more clever and do something better next time.
You try to censur that away, but dont blame others for being too stupid to learn anything. Its a very big problem in Islam. You learn to obey tons of restrictions and therefore cant even copy anything.
SAA cant even handle tankware protecting them well even it has seen as an elementary need by Germans from before WW2. Thats 78 years. But so many of you makes hurrah and so many supported ISIS when they arrived. They were based on pages, which some normal and peacefull muslims had taken out hard of the warfare of Muhammed and economics too.
ok I will just ignore him then. Because I can’t make any improvement of all those bullshit he is all the time saying.
It happens You find gold the strangest places. I mainly read him light line 1,3,5.
We is in Queen Ice or as in icy queen?
i am not talking about the past years…..cant agree or disagree with you for a period of …100 years ago till now?or more? But in the case of SYria…come on you must see what the map shows…..Russia is playing a carefull chess game there on all levels. diplomacy, military you name it. and its giving results.
100 years ago there were no israel, and russia had lost the ww1 and large territories, sunk in civil wa and chaos.
americans alwys will be superior to russians. russians does not have winning mentality. they are too slow, not flexible. :(
a)russians stormed europe in WWII after a massive counterattack. They have suffered huge casualties but yet they managed to fight back. B)Us has been fighting terrorists in iraq and Syriafor a 100000 years and has accomplished nothing. Its just because it was a fake war against terror. I dont like lies. Their only goal was to get rid of Assad. Well then go ahead and say it dont mix terrorism in this. why they do that?because the americans are stupid tey believe everything their government says. So when terrorism is involved they are totally happy as 9-11 is in their minds. If the Us government kills camels in the desert with super smart bombs costing billions they will be happy just if you tell them that they were terrorist camels……
Completely correct and he also forgot to mention they had to have the SDF first degrade IS before SAA was able to do anything against IS.
As for tactics, should I just mention Tabqah 2016?
Not true. Israel failed about every time . Assad victory is the latest.
Israel only fight from the air high high above.
Prove me wrong
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Mail to them.You coul twitter with Trump too and make some corrections. He seemes to be like his brain is in his fingers.
Israelians are very stabile. You can always count on, they prefare its enemies fight against each other. A good old trick not invested by them.
Crossing the river is a mayor problem. They tried before and the advance completely stalled. No progress. The SDF made deals with local tribes who supported ISIS before. They can advance much faster. And of course it is all about oil. The kurds need them to pay for their independence. The US wants them to prevent a strong Syria. Without the oil Syria is doomed.
The tribes of this area are already fighting with SAA, the Tribal forces of Al-Shaitat, they know this area more than anyone. To them, they are taking back what was always theirs and revenging the massacre that ISIS committed on them from 2014 onward. The deals that SDF make would not hold on the long term.
I can confirm that Hendrik. Other tribers are affiliated but not members of SDF, because they wont or are not qualified to it. So there is not much to buy.
Very full of maipulative assumptions, which hardly solve anything.
I cant see SDF asvancing fast. They are stuck or stopped by reasons. You totally ignore that.
The fast advance to the borderline of DEZ were because You have a not defendable terrain all the way to Hasaka, which SDF and the inhabitants there has had many times by killing, raping, robbering, ISIS take and loss of tropps.
So the fast move was based on they from their thin defence line defeated a thin defendline, and the first hard one was at the banks of Eufrat full of hard buildings, which are/were fortified as ISIS do.
And when they tryed to reach the river helping SAA as they were blamed for not doing only 14 days before, they were artllerystriked. So whatever SDF do, its wrong.
They have to fall on their lousy dirty spendable knies and obey the Big Master of the Damaskus Dicatatorship, give their weapons away and admit, that Assad liberated them for the nasty ISIS himself.
After that they are nice people, where Assads again can steal oil for free. The reward is, they will not be shot. but are alllowed to go home to their own ruins in peace.
The Omar fields produce some 25% of Syrian production (potentially).
That is important. No denying.
To say Syria is doomed without that 25% can never be correct.
In the end, the future of Syria will depend on the work of its people, their efforts, their intelligence, hard work etc.
That is why Syria must fully integrate women into society, into the workforce, education and all. It would be stupid to waste all that intelligence, the more so when half the country is in ruins.
SAA is not on the banks of the river near Mayadin, so they cannot build a bridge at this moment.
Furthermore, it is likely they have no pontoon elements to spare. It took them two weeks to get the elements to DeZ and now they are used.
They can reuse them of course, but that means first taking down the first bridge, which will take days, transport them and rebuild. Altogether, it might take 5-6 days. By that time SDF will have the Omar fields.
I think the most strategic target is securing a reliable highway connecting Syria and Iraq.
Oil and gas fields for SDF have no real strategic value because to sell oil and gas you’ll need some way to the outside world which SDF don’t possess, unless Turkey is willing to help them.
The fields will return back to Syria one way or the other.
I dont agree, but I see it could be well having an extra and shorter entrence to Basra, Abadan & Kuwait. In air its 300 km and if You say heavy trucks manege 50 km/hour(they rest too and not all roads are firs classe for 80), they save 5 hours each.
And what more is. There is already a good road from Abu Kamal/Al kaim. Good little point.
If necessary, they can ship oil by truck towards KRG, which will sell it as KRG oil.
Or they can just sell it to either Erdogan or Assad, as both have in the past bought oil from IS. For a cut of the profit of course.
We’ll see about that, after ISIS is eradicated, someone has to fill their shoes after all, but:
I assume you have something to prove Syrian government bought stolen oil from ISIS? Something like aerial pictures of long line of oil trucks from ISIS area to Turkish border and then to Turkish shores?
I Very much like to see that,
Again rubbish propaganda shit of the worst Damaskus & Ankara kind like a lot of other assumtions.
Where do those SDF get a single barrel out free of control.
The real problem making fire to the uprise as well was, that Damaskus took oil money for friends and didnt give more then symbolics of it too others.
The already well doing stole and steal from the rest by friend to friend by corrution and many other kinds of crime. If You look at the upriser map most of them are the poor ones, whatever the reasons for it is/are&was.
Its a matter of sekular greed as worst and not much about etgnicity and religion.
SDF/kurds not even want their own Country. You assume they are like You as thieces think all others are thieves as well. SHARE no matter who takes oilfields. And SDF already has for own use the next many years, if its for that.
They are not like You and therefore wish that federasy having some sober relationships in stead of, how it was.
Eliminate the ISIS salient east of Sukhna shortening the front line, while taking Mayadin and advancing further south towards Al Bukama; at some point near Mayadin or south of it they can cross Euphrates and head east, securing the oil fields and getting closer to the Iraqi border.
ISIS presence in Syria will be eradicated very soon.
Taking open desert and trying to control it is difficult – it’s hard to patrol and set up logistics. It’s better to stick to the strategic road, patrol and observe, then react if IS tries to push again. If faced with strong assault, pull back and regroup, then hit them with air strikes and artillery and assault them to retake any salients. It worked last time, so it a proven tactic.
some drones and planes.
Yes or Al Tanf or Sukna in ISIS style.
I do not believe it would be hard to allocate a couple of tank battalions with supporting vehicles to patrol a radius of 30-50 kms from Sukhna, after all in the desert mobility is of greater effect than numbers. On a tankfull a T72 has a range of 400 kms, and ammo requirements will be relatively minimal; a mobile southern flank from M20 would be rather effective in cleaning up ISIS stragglers that result from hit and run attacks.
Again that securing the oilfields. They dont run away. Do they? From whome ??? They produce 0 of any use today too.
Oilfields in eastern deir-ez-zor are the key to the whole war. Anyway SAA needs to confront with two issues: ISIS shock troops that now have nothing to loose but to inflict most damage possible to SAA and Kurds. The latter are to be engaged by 3 armies (that could lead to a temporary suspension of Kurds advance towards the aforementioned oilfields), but this doesn’t mean though that SAA have to underestimate (again) the securing of Al-Shukna!
Sukhna didn’t fall. IS tried to surround the town but failed and has been pushed back into teh desert after taking heavy losses. I doubt they will be back, and will likely redeploy on a bid to retain Mayadin.
Never told it did. ISIS is not an ordinary army. Those maps are useless, since SAA doesn’t have to deal with brigades, platoons or other ordinary formations. These are all hit & run tactics. They appear and disappear. SAA took the harshest damage, that has been a Kurds tactical victory. It’s useless, militarily speaking, selling to the world that there’s a capital…even a bunch of rocks could be a capital for terrorists…having a capital is just a marketing operation to bring in more weak minds to their cause.
These are old LDRG tactics and they are getting old as they over extended way too much and were given false numbers on the SAA alliance. Blame US CENTCOM planners for these bad tactics, their game is old and has no lasting desired effects. They didn’t evaporate they fought too long and suffered heavy losses , there are a lot of accusations and recriminations after this and why many leaders fled Mayadin with their families to US controlled areas. These guys are just mercenaries paid to fight a weak force when it comes down to it, money is not enough for their life highly typical of foreign paid mercenaries.
Us blah blah US blah blah etc.
A bit more inventiveness would be nice.
Tony is completely correct about IS, certainly in its present stage.
What an idiot rinse an repeat with your comments you should be the one being inventive.
The Lighter side of US wackiness: HTS announced a flag changing to their other alter-ego ISIS. These guys started as Isis members now they are back to being ISIS members, welcome to the wacky world of terrorism. They claimed their was fighting but none took place just flag changing.
Yerrrh. KILL KILL KILL. Thats Your way.
Please, inform me. What three armies? Hope you are not talking about KRG, as that is irrelevant here.
SAA army will soon retake the whole map after win over all those islamist evel troops
so this might have been ISIS’s battle of the bulge, any one thinking that the last one was (including me) are all wrong
The US poured in 6000 in from Iraq they sent 500 million dollars worth equipment through ISIS territory should tell you who works for whom. The Iraq army and PMU should have no problem at Al Qaim now or are they too afraid of the US. The Kurds are contained in Iraq they have no where to go as they can only surrender and many Iraqi Kurds will fight the traitor Barzani as they like him less than the Iraqi govt.
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Very nice :))) once AL bukamal and Omar oil fields are taken , they must push to secure Iraqi border east, if SAA finds baghdadi they should hang him, AND FINALLY WAR IS WON!!! VICTORY!!! :)))