UPDATE 2: The militants have released a video with the downed helicopter.
UPDATE: Pro-government sources say that the helicopter crashed because of a technical failure.
The joint forces of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda) have reportedly downed a helicopter of the Syrian Arab Air Force in the Beit Jinn pocket in southern Syria.
Accordign to reports, the incident took place southeast of the village of Khan ash-Shih.
The Beit Jinn pocket has recently faced escalation of the violence because the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) was forced to respond to the growing influence of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham in the area. (MORE HERE)
How did they get MANPADs?
have you some article talking manpads, theres no mention of them here.
Yeah.. They must have used a stone thrown by hand…
Not necessarily by hand, ballistas might still be effective to this day
so anything between stones and manpads is unable to damage helicopters?
have you missed the hundreds of technicals with guns ranging from 12.7 to 23mm used by ragheads?
You trolls are getting pathetically aggressive on the most unrelevant subjects. For me and most of the regular users here, it’s a joy seeing you sinking in that swamp.
Hinds can quit easily take most caliber anti aircraft guns unless they got lucky
23 mm API-I rounds to the engine area will cause heavy damage and fires. The helicopter is armored only around the cockpit. There have been instances of hinds also shot down by NSV 12.7mm HMG and KPV 14.5mm.
I expect people on sf to understand that it’s a robust helicopter, not a tank – certain stereotypes are good for hollywood but don’t belong in sites doing serious analysis.
well it was a MANPAD its confirmed
my d**k is confirmed.
You always sound like a really frustrated guy and it projects as aggression..Are you frustrated sexually, unemployed or just a loser burning with envy? Difficult to tell but from here you come out like a know it all who hasnt achieved much in life…
just a guy that loves the truth and is disgusted by trickstaz.
I know, it’s a bad time to be around for people like me.
By whom :)
no, that’s not
From just over the border, the occupying force of the Golan Heights, I presume.
Jewhadi will be vanished soon in whole Syria and Iraq then Syrian and Iraqi nations will be free to eliminate all migrant Israeli refugees from whole Middle East to liberate Palestine from these Israeli terrorists.
dream on….
This is a matter of time you will see yourself. God helps those who help themselves. I have seen the Muslim strength and intention in the region. If only Iran just do pee towards Israel then whole Israel will be drowned in the Mediterranean sea.
An other genocide?
Do not worry. If Israël goes down in another genocide, they will take the whole region with them, including all Palestinians.
It does look like a technical failure rather than a rocket impact, wouldn’t the chopper blow up in pieces if it was hit by an anti-air weapon?
no, but in any case the evidence is suspicious. Firstly, the first pic is of a Mi-8 Hip while the vid shows a Mi-24 Hind.
secondly, the video is suspiciously lacking a whole part, the one that would show the helicopter actually crashing to the ground.
There is no way to tell that the filmed crash is actually that of the Hind which is shown flying with an engine fire. We’ve seen this kind of dirt-cheap lying coming from jihadists sources since the beginning, there are few doubts that they are bullshitting in this news too.
Exactly. 0:40 something exploded but you can’t see what… interesting they removed everything before that exact moment.
nothing is seen exploding at 0:40. It’s just the moment the scene switches.
My impression is that the average russian helicopter can run on tinned spinach and you could throw a small dog in the running engine without crashing it. The video seems to show a helicopter in controlled flight returning to “friendly” territory for a very quick smoke break.
assault helicopters are robust by redundancy.
a mi-24 with an engine destroyed will get back with power from the other engine.
in general, the impression you speak about is typically generated by 50 years of pentagon rubbish like “Soviet hardware is sturdy and unsophisticated”. Even parrots will tell you that.
Oh, I don’t think they’re necessarily unsophisticated. Sturdy they be. I suppose they’re built to run without the retinue of “official” service staff that the US military-industrial complex produces
Indded. The helicopter is flying in controlled flight, with no signs of significant explosive damage. It is also flying in a clear blue sky. The video cuts to show something having crashed into the ground – on a cloudy / hazy day. One of the comments says the video is from 4 November 2016. My guess is the terrorists have spliced an earlier filmed crash onto the end of a video of Mi24 experiencing technical difficulties.
Right on no sign of a hit on anything. Closing frames and black smoke -especially in the last two seconds looks like a hit. This report seems cobbled together. A chopper was downed but how and why remains two separate stories.
Confirmed, shot by MANPAD. It means, jihadi wariors have MANPADs, provided by West/Israel/Saudis and may be Turkey…there is a question here, when this lethal sofisticated weapons appear nearby EU airports…
show the confirmation.
It will be Karma when they do appear at EU airports as they surely will :) Just imagine the panic and the crash of airline stocks .
Nah their security apparatus can foil such plan 9 out of 10 of the time. What we’re seeing happening much were state allowed terrorism or false flags.
Time will tell. Flight approaches to airports cover vast areas with plenty of cover for Manpad operators and there are many of those in the ranks of terrorist groups now. Many trained by NATO countries :)
The blowback from such training will be Karma indeed :) Feeding rabid dogs is never very sensible.
imagine your panic while you are on this plane :)
I detest flying Matt, so I care little. Have done for years due to the crap at the airports.
Citizens have a choice, fly or don’t fly and when the terrorist Manpads arrive in Europe and the US, I suspect few will fly.
The worlds terror groups obviously realise they have this demonic power that is greatly enhanced by their suicide bomber philosophy. Its just a matter of ‘when’ this jihad against civilian aircraft begins in Europe as it surely will in my opinion.
I don’t think so, its not in the interest of the ultra rich, so they just continue with the usual attacks and mayebe it will happen once, to keep everyone in fear in order to impose more laws to enslave us more and more
UPDATE: Why the video shows a Mi-24 while the pic shows a Mi-8?
When the Russian jet from Egypt was destroyed by an altitude bomb, the terrorists posted footage of this on DAY ONE. Putin denied it was a terrorist attack for weeks.
It is standard operating procedure, 1984 police-state style, for both the West and Russia to deny (ie., lie) about enemy ‘spectaculars’- as if the internet doesn’t exist. This is the training officials got in the middle of the 20th century, and they still follow the same propaganda rules today.
The real story is that the British SAS, and others, train, arm and lead the terror gangs in Syria. The only limit to their operations is fear of blow-back if they go ‘too far’.
Syria will be cursed by British backed terror sleeper cells for decades to come. They won’t retake much of Syria, but they will degrade the lives of ordianry Syrians- the punishment Britain seeks to impose on Syria for daring to have defeated the wahhabi invasion.
Turks shot Su 24 down. …hunted it /planned attack on previous opp route near Turk border. Putin does nothing. . No wait! …..Putin signs Turk stream nat/gas pipeline. : (
Empire/US torment nations …..Like Chechnya wars One side is control, ….the other plays catch up.
Syria Now occupied with no UN protection. …..Putin will not turn S 400 on or give Syria comparable. Result. ….Syria will be fought over like a messy divorce in court.
“Turks shot Su 24 down”
Turkish convoy is destroyed by airstrikes at border passing.
you stank trolls always like to forget this.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/1024/cpsprodpb/D13C/production/_86846535_planehi3.jpg
Brave Russian pilots /military perish…. as Putin rewards criminals like Erdogan and Netanyahu with wealth and prizes.
while trolling ruffians remain empty handed like always.
So it’s …..Personal
You are probably some 40 IQ Zombies hero ….for dumping on me …with your crass insults. .
I post for Legacy and Lurkers. ….IE. …they will Google the links and see Putin gunning with Kissinger, Netanyahu. ….will read about the Putin rise from obscurity with dancing Jews,
And they will connect the dots! !
Putin’s no Anti Globalist hero, He’s a placement*…after the Atlanticist loot Russia 6 ways from Sunday. Oligarch Jew know what. ..everywhere on the periphery. After the Jewish Bolsheviek loot Russia since Lenin….this is not Mother Russia Free
Putin is collusion with how many since rusty old smoking carrier limped into Syrian waters. Erdogan. ..Obama, Hitlery Clinton, Poroshenko, Saudi Flunkies, ….Trump.
Some posters said Putin can’t shoot down IAF or US jets or its WW 3. LOL….Israel defeat Russia.
Lol….thats comical like Yosemite Sam vs Bugs Bunny : )
Russia/Putin has amazing C4I with radar/jamming/burn thru that can zero out US /Nato and Israel at the press if a button. Russia has interlink C4I where land, sea and air that are real time read And nobody on the planet has anything goes to keep up with that!!
Kalibr surgery is just coffee time : )
I wish the fugging Jews were gone from Putin’s world, They are not. …this is problem ***
lol what a fail.
you expected me to get personal, which i did not (“while trolling ruffians remain empty handed like always”). Unless of course you are admitting you’re a ziotroll.
so you wrote your comment before i did even respond to the former, then pasted it anyway.
If I score 40 iq, you score 10.
checkmate fool.
“Putin denied it was a terrorist attack for weeks”
Bullshit. In the real world, state officials acknowledge about terror acts AFTER a proper investigation is completed.
That’s what happen in the real world.
Elsewhere, geopolitics are made out of pandering and trolling.
” Putin denied it was a terrorist attack for weeks.”
President Putin did NOT instantly deny it was a terror attack .
What he did say though was that he would not apportion blame until an investigation had been made. This is the correct way to behave.
USA-Israel-NATO MANPADs in action ! What is Russia going to do about that ?
One bunch of fascist pigs at a time puhleease.
Seems SAA is losing much hardware these days. This will make many happy to hear.