Within a couple of months, Russia will also withdraw from the rest of the territories and we will return to the situation as it was before February 2022. There will be a kind of peace treaty where Russia will probably get Crimea and anything else. Ukraine will join NATO, Europe will no longer buy Russian gas, Belarus will become a fully european country and the Stans wil get closer to China. Chapter Russia closed, so the West would be able to concentrate on destroying China
you are correct. The Russians only managed to kill 10 Ukrainians for every one of them, clearly this is very poor. They also needed supplies. Everyone knows that modern armies don’t need supplies and boxes of ammunition appear out of thin air. Clearly, Russia lacks that ability and is done for
even the Ukrainians themselves state that they advanced into empty positions and that the losses were almost completely theirs. Russia’s objective is dead Ukrainian bodies, which the Russians are achieving on a huge scale, and correspondingly the threat to them reduces
Yes exactly, Ukraine has no manpower so the Russians are retreating everywhere. The only thing that matters are the facts. Russia holds a fake referendum to annex Kherson Oblast and after a week they are giving up the region capital. It also seems to me symbolic that Putin will not attend the G20
Ah, reading tea leaves again. You must be a gypsy. Be careful, the Banderites like to beat gypies, even kill a few in dark alleys. Of course, most alleys are dark there these days, so be extra careful. Wouldn’t want anything to happen to you.
This is war ,kill many enemy as possible. Killed .5Russia+.5Russia allies for 7-8Ukraine soldiers and US and UK regular soldiers pretends dressing as Ukraine soldiers ,sad US and UK will sell their widows and daughter as prostitutes and sex slaves in US and UK lol.
The failed Ukrainian CIA project press-ganged every male under age 60 months ago. Manpower is not the issue. Considering how people in the south and east voted in the 2004 and 2010 elections, there is no reason to doubt the outcome of the referenda. Thanks for playing though, dipshit.
Putin is not attending because he does not want to look foolish standing by himself. This is common sense.
Regarding the retreat. Very disappointing. Why have these votes for independence if you’re not going to defend them and defend them with everything you got.
I’m sort of shocked the Russians did not blow up supplies coming from the western part of the country.
Politics is a whore, they say. Maybe there is something going behind the scenes to allow the Ukrainians to save face and take Kherson and then the negotiation. Maybe there is something we just don’t know which is a common thing. Very disappointing performance by the Russians. I know they are fighting all of NATO, but somehow during Stalin’s time, I think results would have been different.
They withdrew to avoid getting Russians killed, and by all accounts except jizz-rag fan-boy fuck-tards like you, the Ukrainians have suffered significant casualties at every turn. Meanwhile, all the fighting is on territory that belonged to the failed Ukrainian CIA project in 2013. Never stop derping!
Yes, it’s wiping out the enemy forces and equipment that counts. Real estate can be retaken later. I just feel sorry for the civilians in Kherson and Bakhmut that get terrorized by the Ukronazis.
This is war ,kill many enemy as possible. Killed .5Russia+.5Russia allies for 7-8Ukraine soldiers and US and UK regular soldiers pretends dressing as Ukraine soldiers ,sad US and UK will sell their widows and daughter as prostitutes and sex slaves in US and UK lol.
You’ve posted this rubbish countless times and yet the real question remains: why are you you posting in SF at all if the information reported here is so far removed from reality? We can get the Ukrotard/CIA perspective from literally any mainstream English language news website. And yet here you are, day after day. Funny, no?
Thank you for your question. First of all, I post day after day because I can. Until I’m deleted, of course. Second, not all information is accurate, either on MSM or SF, so it’s good to read and compare. Thirdly, if we have won, why are we retreating?
FlorianGeyer
2 years ago
In all real wars the front lies ebb and flow. WW2 in North Africa is a good example.
Cage fighting with ones back pressed against a fast flowing river with the risk of being flooded by the Ukies blowing up a massive dam is foolhardy.
A Russian tactical withdrawal to higher ground is a wise move indeed.
This is war ,kill many enemy as possible. Killed .5Russia+.5Russia allies for 7-8Ukraine soldiers and US and UK regular soldiers pretends dressing as Ukraine soldiers ,sad US and UK will sell their widows and daughter as prostitutes and sex slaves in US and UK lol.
Well, no. The territory lost by the failed Ukrainian CIA project since 2013 to Russia is bigger than many countries. Still can’t believe how fast the Ukrainians gave it up even with the US and NATO vassals arming them, training them, providing Special Forces to support them, and giving them intelligence. The Ukrainian castrophe continues to defy imagination. The idea that they whored themselves out to the Americans in this fashion is quite remarable.
Vanya
2 years ago
Putin deserves to burn in hell for a yuga for humiliating the Russian people like this.
This is war ,kill many enemy as possible. Killed .5Russia+.5Russia allies for 7-8Ukraine soldiers and US and UK regular soldiers pretends dressing as Ukraine soldiers ,sad US and UK will sell their widows and daughter as prostitutes and sex slaves in US and UK lol.
Icarus Tanović
2 years ago
I see many debilitating and retarding trolls from tell aviv and Washington have been activate asap.
This is war ,kill many enemy as possible. Killed .5Russia+.5Russia allies for 7-8Ukraine soldiers and US and UK regular soldiers pretends dressing as Ukraine soldiers ,sad US and UK will sell their widows and daughter as prostitutes and sex slaves in US and UK lol.
Cookie
2 years ago
Whatever happens with giving up, or taking territory? What has become clear is for a complete victory Ukraine has to evict Russia completely and physically.
Can they do it? If not its time to cut a deal.
What Russia has to do is keep Ukraine spending resources and find a way to hit the Himars…they have a distinct tread pattern and with the mud should leave a trail right to their destruction.
Also since day one Russia has not dealt with the eyes in the sky? Since their own infrastructure was hit why Russia doesn’t retaliate? If they want to save soldiers then delaying the time of Ukraines intelligence updates would go a long way.
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RazorRamon
2 years ago
The danger of retreating from Kherson is the fact that they can’t use the Antonovsky bridge anymore. They will have to use river crossing and pontoon bridges and pontoon ferries which cannot carry many equipment. The Ukrainians will zero in with their artillery. Either the Russians will abandon their heavy equipment or many many will perish trying to retreat. It is a bad outcome in any case.
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3WW YA EMPEZO RUSIA NO SE DIO CUENTA ?
2 years ago
ESTO ES UNA GUERRA TOTAL ENTRE EEUU Y RUSIA LUCHADA EN UCRANIA ESA ES LA REALIDAD
LOS RUSOS NO SE DIERON POR ALUDIDOS ?
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TomB
2 years ago
as a great friend of the russians, it is all the more regrettable to see how weak, bad, disorganized and amateurish the russian army and its leadership have been acting since day one and unfortunately still to this day.
Armament is still largely outdated or even ancient, rusty rifles and ammunition, equipment is ancient or of poor quality, despite a military budget of around 65 billion, which is far too small for the size of the country and army, the target must be at least 80 billion his and here obviously a lot of corruption and embezzlement in the game anyway.
drone technology has also been neglected for far too long and russia currently still has far too few reconnaissance and combat drones, the networking and real-time action in the network of weapon systems in the rus army also seems to be largely unknown and one still acts like in the last century with still much too long, slow and too many hierarchical chains.
In addition, about 300 billion usd were mistakenly left abroad, although anyone who is not totally stupid knew that this would be frozen or confiscated by sanctions and will probably never flow back to Russia.
The Russian army could have been fully modernized and fully armed and equipped with only a part of it.
now there is nothing left but to withdraw to the east bank, bring in the reservists in the next few weeks and months and then start a major offensive in the spring at the latest to create the entire south-west coast with odessa and a land connection to transnistria.
but around 300,000 resrevists will not be enough for that and you should recruit at least as many again.
If it were up to me, call up all around 2 million resrevists and then take 3 major offensives in the south-west, east and from the north of Kyiv.
then the problem would be solved in the long run.
Russia will need a minimum of 20 million reservists. Only then it will have a chance by simply sending millions of men into death in the hope that Ukraine will surrender. Or drop multiple atomic bombs on a few Ukrainian city’s.
ArmenianCekko
2 years ago
100.000 Russian servicemen death since February 2022. Only thing we see as end result is the retreat of Russia from all the frontlines. Kyiv = tactical retreat. Kharkiv = Tactical retreat. Kherson = ??? tac….?? error
Within a couple of months, Russia will also withdraw from the rest of the territories and we will return to the situation as it was before February 2022. There will be a kind of peace treaty where Russia will probably get Crimea and anything else. Ukraine will join NATO, Europe will no longer buy Russian gas, Belarus will become a fully european country and the Stans wil get closer to China. Chapter Russia closed, so the West would be able to concentrate on destroying China
you are correct. The Russians only managed to kill 10 Ukrainians for every one of them, clearly this is very poor. They also needed supplies. Everyone knows that modern armies don’t need supplies and boxes of ammunition appear out of thin air. Clearly, Russia lacks that ability and is done for
Yes…yes… Russians killed so many Ukrainians that they had to withdraw from Kharkhiv, Kherson and also part of Lugansk
even the Ukrainians themselves state that they advanced into empty positions and that the losses were almost completely theirs. Russia’s objective is dead Ukrainian bodies, which the Russians are achieving on a huge scale, and correspondingly the threat to them reduces
Yes exactly, Ukraine has no manpower so the Russians are retreating everywhere. The only thing that matters are the facts. Russia holds a fake referendum to annex Kherson Oblast and after a week they are giving up the region capital. It also seems to me symbolic that Putin will not attend the G20
Putin knows he may not be the leader when he gets back, if he leaves the country.
I think that is Biden from US election.lol
Ah, reading tea leaves again. You must be a gypsy. Be careful, the Banderites like to beat gypies, even kill a few in dark alleys. Of course, most alleys are dark there these days, so be extra careful. Wouldn’t want anything to happen to you.
This is war ,kill many enemy as possible. Killed .5Russia+.5Russia allies for 7-8Ukraine soldiers and US and UK regular soldiers pretends dressing as Ukraine soldiers ,sad US and UK will sell their widows and daughter as prostitutes and sex slaves in US and UK lol.
The failed Ukrainian CIA project press-ganged every male under age 60 months ago. Manpower is not the issue. Considering how people in the south and east voted in the 2004 and 2010 elections, there is no reason to doubt the outcome of the referenda. Thanks for playing though, dipshit.
Putin is not attending because he does not want to look foolish standing by himself. This is common sense.
Regarding the retreat. Very disappointing. Why have these votes for independence if you’re not going to defend them and defend them with everything you got.
I’m sort of shocked the Russians did not blow up supplies coming from the western part of the country.
Politics is a whore, they say. Maybe there is something going behind the scenes to allow the Ukrainians to save face and take Kherson and then the negotiation. Maybe there is something we just don’t know which is a common thing. Very disappointing performance by the Russians. I know they are fighting all of NATO, but somehow during Stalin’s time, I think results would have been different.
The body count strategy was shown to be a failed one by the US in Vietnam.
LOS RUSOS SE RETIRAN Y DESPUES MATAN MUY FACIL A LOS UKRONAZIS FUERA DE SUS RATONERAS DE ESO SE TRATA !!! ES UNA GUERRA DE DESGASTE !!
Ukrainian cannon fodder is cheap. The over 50 crowd even cheaper.
They withdrew to avoid getting Russians killed, and by all accounts except jizz-rag fan-boy fuck-tards like you, the Ukrainians have suffered significant casualties at every turn. Meanwhile, all the fighting is on territory that belonged to the failed Ukrainian CIA project in 2013. Never stop derping!
Yes, it’s wiping out the enemy forces and equipment that counts. Real estate can be retaken later. I just feel sorry for the civilians in Kherson and Bakhmut that get terrorized by the Ukronazis.
This is war ,kill many enemy as possible. Killed .5Russia+.5Russia allies for 7-8Ukraine soldiers and US and UK regular soldiers pretends dressing as Ukraine soldiers ,sad US and UK will sell their widows and daughter as prostitutes and sex slaves in US and UK lol.
So we won. Then why the hell are we retreating?
You’ve posted this rubbish countless times and yet the real question remains: why are you you posting in SF at all if the information reported here is so far removed from reality? We can get the Ukrotard/CIA perspective from literally any mainstream English language news website. And yet here you are, day after day. Funny, no?
Thank you for your question. First of all, I post day after day because I can. Until I’m deleted, of course. Second, not all information is accurate, either on MSM or SF, so it’s good to read and compare. Thirdly, if we have won, why are we retreating?
In all real wars the front lies ebb and flow. WW2 in North Africa is a good example.
Cage fighting with ones back pressed against a fast flowing river with the risk of being flooded by the Ukies blowing up a massive dam is foolhardy.
A Russian tactical withdrawal to higher ground is a wise move indeed.
Slava Rossiya
LMFAO!
Problem is they are retreating to lower ground which will only ensure another retreat.
This is war ,kill many enemy as possible. Killed .5Russia+.5Russia allies for 7-8Ukraine soldiers and US and UK regular soldiers pretends dressing as Ukraine soldiers ,sad US and UK will sell their widows and daughter as prostitutes and sex slaves in US and UK lol.
The Russians are being routed.
Well, no. The territory lost by the failed Ukrainian CIA project since 2013 to Russia is bigger than many countries. Still can’t believe how fast the Ukrainians gave it up even with the US and NATO vassals arming them, training them, providing Special Forces to support them, and giving them intelligence. The Ukrainian castrophe continues to defy imagination. The idea that they whored themselves out to the Americans in this fashion is quite remarable.
Putin deserves to burn in hell for a yuga for humiliating the Russian people like this.
This is war ,kill many enemy as possible. Killed .5Russia+.5Russia allies for 7-8Ukraine soldiers and US and UK regular soldiers pretends dressing as Ukraine soldiers ,sad US and UK will sell their widows and daughter as prostitutes and sex slaves in US and UK lol.
I see many debilitating and retarding trolls from tell aviv and Washington have been activate asap.
The Ukrainian trolls got elecricity back. It really inspired them.
white slavs and white jews kill each other in the hundreds daily.
This is war ,kill many enemy as possible. Killed .5Russia+.5Russia allies for 7-8Ukraine soldiers and US and UK regular soldiers pretends dressing as Ukraine soldiers ,sad US and UK will sell their widows and daughter as prostitutes and sex slaves in US and UK lol.
Whatever happens with giving up, or taking territory? What has become clear is for a complete victory Ukraine has to evict Russia completely and physically.
Can they do it? If not its time to cut a deal.
What Russia has to do is keep Ukraine spending resources and find a way to hit the Himars…they have a distinct tread pattern and with the mud should leave a trail right to their destruction.
Also since day one Russia has not dealt with the eyes in the sky? Since their own infrastructure was hit why Russia doesn’t retaliate? If they want to save soldiers then delaying the time of Ukraines intelligence updates would go a long way.
The danger of retreating from Kherson is the fact that they can’t use the Antonovsky bridge anymore. They will have to use river crossing and pontoon bridges and pontoon ferries which cannot carry many equipment. The Ukrainians will zero in with their artillery. Either the Russians will abandon their heavy equipment or many many will perish trying to retreat. It is a bad outcome in any case.
ESTO ES UNA GUERRA TOTAL ENTRE EEUU Y RUSIA LUCHADA EN UCRANIA ESA ES LA REALIDAD LOS RUSOS NO SE DIERON POR ALUDIDOS ?
as a great friend of the russians, it is all the more regrettable to see how weak, bad, disorganized and amateurish the russian army and its leadership have been acting since day one and unfortunately still to this day. Armament is still largely outdated or even ancient, rusty rifles and ammunition, equipment is ancient or of poor quality, despite a military budget of around 65 billion, which is far too small for the size of the country and army, the target must be at least 80 billion his and here obviously a lot of corruption and embezzlement in the game anyway. drone technology has also been neglected for far too long and russia currently still has far too few reconnaissance and combat drones, the networking and real-time action in the network of weapon systems in the rus army also seems to be largely unknown and one still acts like in the last century with still much too long, slow and too many hierarchical chains. In addition, about 300 billion usd were mistakenly left abroad, although anyone who is not totally stupid knew that this would be frozen or confiscated by sanctions and will probably never flow back to Russia. The Russian army could have been fully modernized and fully armed and equipped with only a part of it. now there is nothing left but to withdraw to the east bank, bring in the reservists in the next few weeks and months and then start a major offensive in the spring at the latest to create the entire south-west coast with odessa and a land connection to transnistria. but around 300,000 resrevists will not be enough for that and you should recruit at least as many again. If it were up to me, call up all around 2 million resrevists and then take 3 major offensives in the south-west, east and from the north of Kyiv. then the problem would be solved in the long run.
Russia will need a minimum of 20 million reservists. Only then it will have a chance by simply sending millions of men into death in the hope that Ukraine will surrender. Or drop multiple atomic bombs on a few Ukrainian city’s.
100.000 Russian servicemen death since February 2022. Only thing we see as end result is the retreat of Russia from all the frontlines. Kyiv = tactical retreat. Kharkiv = Tactical retreat. Kherson = ??? tac….?? error