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On Sunday morning, North Korea conducted what appears its sixth nuclear test making an important step en route to become a nuclear power with offensive capabilities.
The test triggered tremor a tremor 10 times as powerful as that from its previous test in 2016. The eqarthquake was detected near the site of the previous nuclear tests.
KCNA announces N.Korea successfully tested hydrogen bomb which can be used for ICBM purposes. Read more: https://t.co/8DY0RVS42J pic.twitter.com/Kn8DirkVBj
— NK NEWS (@nknewsorg) 3 September 2017
The test followed an announcement that North Korea obtained a hydrogen bomb that could be mounted on an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM).
“The H-bomb, the explosive power of which is adjustable from tens kiloton to hundreds kiloton, is a multi-functional thermonuclear nuke with great destructive power which can be detonated even at high altitudes for super-powerful EMP attack according to strategic goals,” the Korean Central News Agency said.
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Sure can not be used for ICBM. :) for usa and ussr was difficult to miniaturize. they needed long years. NK with reduced resources needs decade. at least.
If the US continues along the path of Might is Right we will see if NK has a nuclear capability or not. That much is a certainty.
“usa and ussr was difficult to miniaturize. they needed long years.” Each and every prediction etc. like this has been proven wrong in recent years.
Thing is , DPRK has been acquiring existing missile and weapons tech & simply tweaking it a little, that takes a lot less time.
Wrong, NK already has this technology, and you will see it,
Most likely its not a hydrogen bomb.
But a regular uranium bomb that has been spiked with tritium to increase its’ yield. Which is well within their capability.
Isn’t that the definition of a hydrogen, or more generally, thermonuclear weapon? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermonuclear_weapon A two stage explosion where the second stage is fueled by either tritium, deuterium, or lithium. This increases the yield by an order of magnitude given the same weight.
I can make a beer keg look like a hydrogen bomb too… And I am in reference to the one that was detonated….
The blast yield proves that they have a two stage thermonuclear weapon. I don’t care about Kim’s photo op.
Alrighty. After the north is flattened by china and the south(we will not invade, but provide air/technical support), we’ll see who is right. I’ll wager $20 and a cookie.
I’m sure you are right. And NK does not have an ICBM. To have an ICBM is not the same as having missiles with a fairly long range, all that talk is just nonsense. But US Shadow Government want us to think that NK has all kinds of capabilities. This is just a re-run of Saddam Hussein. You have to build up the enemy you want to bully.
ICBM, Who knows. I’m going off of what I see: 100 kilotons(or 1 megaton) is well within the envelope of a boosted atomic bomb(which is not a H-bomb), if that is what the north korean bomb produced. Our FIRST H-Bomb WAS ONLY 10 megatons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Mike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boosted_fission_weapon
So in other words, they did not even come close to a H-Bomb. They ignited a boosted uranium fission device.
This “peanut” shape, if real, is a characteristic of a genuine hydrogen bomb, not a spiked one, which is a sphere (and most likely the first stage of this bomb, one of the spheres). In other words, this thing looks like a hydrogen bomb and has a yield like a hydrogen bomb, so it is most likely a hydrogen bomb and not a boosted regular a-bomb, this latter is usually made of plutonium, and not uranium.
Its a two stage H-bomb.
100 kilotons(or 1 megaton) is well within the envelope of a boosted atomic bomb(which is not a H-bomb), if that is what the north korean bomb produced. Our FIRST H-Bomb WAS ONLY 10 megatons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Mike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boosted_fission_weapon
So in other words, they did not even come close to a H-Bomb. They ignited a boosted uranium fission device…..
There is a ratio between quantity of nuclear material and output energy. H Bomb making is not a difficult thing if one have formula and you know many countries have H Bomb formula just nuclear scientists need order from the government. In boasted nuclear bomb there is just one stage bomb which also has hydrogen isotopes deutrium and Tritium to increase its output energy. This increase of output energy is due to Hydrogen isotopes fusion but it is not called H bomb. On the other hand in H bomb there are two stages one Plutonium bomb and the second H bomb consist of deuterium and Tritium.
How its work first small gun powder like explosive devices are detonated inside plutonium bomb which compresses and heatup plutonium layers due to which two layers of plutonium fused together and start fission reaction and detonated then it further put pressure on second stage of bomb which is H bomb and consists of deuterium and tritium. Due to high temperature and neutrons the atoms fusion reaction start and produce high energies of all types of radiations.
I can make a beer keg look like a hydrogen bomb too… And I am in reference to the one that was detonated.
“I am in reference to the one that was detonated” That had a yield that is “consistent with” a H-bomb, not a boosted A-bomb. Of course you can never know, it may have been an elaborate hoax. I’m pretty sure the relevant agencies are collecting now the environmental samples, measuring isotopes, whatever, and we may know a bit more then when they speak. If they speak. If there’s enough release to measure.
100 kilotons(or 1 megaton) is well within the envelope of a boosted atomic bomb(which is not a H-bomb), if that is what the north korean bomb produced. Our FIRST H-Bomb WAS ONLY 10 megatons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Mike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boosted_fission_weapon
So in other words, they did not even come close to a H-Bomb. They ignited a boosted uranium fission device.
Please get some information first. The W70 in the US arsenal was a H-bomb, and it had a variable yield between 1 and 100 kt. Almost all nuclear weapons are H-bombs, and the typical yield is a few hundred kt. It is still possible that the DPRK bomb is a boosted one or a simple bluff, but the yield in itself doesn’t contradict their claim, quite to the contrary. Furthermore, whatever they said about their weaponry, dismissed as propaganda, turned out to be correct later.
W70 is a boosted fission weapon. Thats why it is variable and proves my point about tritium: Add more tritium, increase yield. Add less or no tritium, decrease yield.
It’s not a H-Bomb.
Check your facts first.
1. W70 is thermonuclear (actually, two stage).
2. The most important US bomb, the B61 has a variable yield between 0,3 and 340 kilotons, and this is a thermonuclear bomb. Yield variability in itself doesn’t prove your assertion.
(OFF The feature is called “dial a yield” with a few options, and is done with a plain switch, not by removing or adding tritium. Actually, they don’t use tritium, ie. heavy hydrogen gas, in actual weapons, but various compounds like LiHe.)
3. All in all, what the DPRK claims is plausible, and this is my point (and the point of most people here). It still may be a bluff or whatever. China and Japan is monitoring the release (so far none), and the isotope content and whatever will give much more information about it.
Thermonuclear != H-bomb. Thermonuclear is a term that gets tossed around alot by people that don’t know what it means but want to sound cool. Yes, there are a few ways of boosting a uranium device, tritium is the easiest because you only need a few grams, the material is cheap, easy to design for, reliable, stable, and readily available.
Did you even bother reading the links I provided? They provide the information in the most easily discernible format….
“Thermonuclear != H-bomb.”
“Did you even bother reading the links I provided?” I had already read them before, and not just those links. Knowing these well, I simply can’t understand how you’ve managed to misunderstand this (quite simple) stuff. But if you need a “proof” from wikipedia, this is it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermonuclear_weapon “A thermonuclear weapon is a […] nuclear weapon design using a secondary nuclear fusion stage […] The result is greatly increased explosive power when compared to single-stage fission weapons. The device is colloquially referred to as a hydrogen bomb or, an H-bomb.” The two spheres in the peanut are the stages.
This design is clearly distinguished from the boosted bomb, the latter being not so effective, and has only a single stage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boosted_fission_weapon
If you are unable to understand this, I can’t help. Back to the original topic, I don’t even claim that the DPRK bomb is a H-bomb (or thermonuclear, as opposed to a boosted bomb, or just simply a heap of conventional explosives), but most likely it is.
100 kilotons(or 1 megaton) is well within the envelope of a boosted atomic bomb(which is not a H-bomb), if that is what the north korean bomb produced. Our FIRST H-Bomb WAS ONLY 10 megatons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Mike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boosted_fission_weapon
So in other words, they did not even come close to a H-Bomb. They ignited a boosted uranium fission device…
The explosion was 155 KT. It was two stage Thermonuclear weapon. In other words it is also called H-Bomb. They can vary its power from 50KT to 300KT.
The explosion is more in the range of 100kt. That is one megaton. Well within range of a regular uranium nuclear device. Lets keep the hysterics down shall we?
RedMadMax, maybe you are not familiar with H-Bomb pictures and characteristics, but what we see there is a perfect pic of one. Unless the N. Koreans want to fool the whole world with fake pose (which is unlikely), then yes that’s a H-Bomb.
I can make a beer keg look like a hydrogen bomb too… And I am in reference to the one that was detonated.
100 kilotons(or 1 megaton) is well within the envelope of a boosted atomic bomb(which is not a H-bomb), if that is what the north korean bomb produced. Our FIRST H-Bomb WAS ONLY 10 megatons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Mike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boosted_fission_weapon
So in other words, they did not even come close to a H-Bomb. They ignited a boosted uranium fission device..
Ladies and gentlemen, now the little fatcat made the start. Therefore was the earthquake. :)
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Well, in case of war with NK, you won laugh when a termonuclear bomb of 700 kT fall down in some USA nuclear reactor, or maybe in DIMONA reactor in Israel.
Well done Mr. Kim.
HongKong is part of China :)
Yes of course but if Hong Kong join China then they will be protected.
But they are and have been since 1999.
Of course, also Taiwan (Formosa), and USA-UK denied to return Taiwan to China in 2000.
Looks like N.K secure is security and sovereignty. In addition, looks like N.K also will obtain respect, unless aggressor america will trigger war
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKSao0auwYM
Another bonus would if course be ,No Facebook, Twitter and all the other US rubbish.
I have a Twitter account for Forex trading, which is currently dormant, the account, not the trading, and I wouldn’t have it otherwise. I don’t do any other social media other than a Disqus account for comment boards. I graduated from high school in 76 and just missed the draft because the Vietnam war was ending. I watched it for years on the news every night.
The defense contractors are all publicly owned Wall Street companies with a lot of Jew influence. Jews are an integral part and driving force of the US war machine. They make a lot of money and exert a lot of control with it. There was a lot of opposition to it during Vietnam. And there’s a lot of opposition to it now. Which is why Trump beat Clinton.
I have 35 years of peace process experience, not just in the US, but in places like Northern Ireland and elsewhere. I tried to reach Gaza the last time I was in Egypt, but couldn’t get the visa approved before I left.
Every US war during my lifetime has been a fabrication that had nothing to do with any type of rational definition of national security. They were all touted as that. But few other nations would have done the same thing under similar circumstances.
And now the US is close to bankruptcy by design to try to get the wars stopped, and the Jews resorted to terror wars on the cheap and the Russians countered with coalition war on the cheap successfully so far in Syria. The main problem is the Jews. Without them the problem would be far less severe and a lot more manageable. Earth would be a much better place without the Jews. Their cult should be outlawed. They’re behind many of humanity’s problems.
I agree with you. My antipathy toward that tribe is only mitigated by the courageous few amongst the Jewish faith who do speak out against the Zionist zealots that have caused so much misery around the globe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCW6TsH3YF0
The path forward with N Korea should be a peace treaty, which the Jews and their swamp slaves are adamantly opposed to. Which is why these psychopaths need to be removed from power.
“A few weeks back, former CIA Director James Woolsey and EMP Commission Chairman Dr. Vincent Pry from the Task Force on National and Homeland Security, published an article on TheHill.com, where they argued that a nuclear EMP attack could wipe out 90% of the U.S. population. Woolsey and Pry cite the Congressional EMP Commission, arguing, “a single warhead delivered by North Korean satellite could blackout the national electric grid and other life-sustaining critical infrastructures for over a year – killing 9 of 10 Americans by starvation and societal collapse.”
Just two days later, a piece written by Kyle Mizokami was published on the website Popular Mechanics entitled, “No, North Korea Can’t Kill 90 Percent of Americans.” Obviously, the article was a response to the arguments laid out in the article written by Woolsey and Pry. “While North Korea does pose an increasingly serious nuclear threat to the United States, the claim it could kill 300 million Americans by depriving them of electricity is not realistic.”
Shortly after that, Pry responded to the criticism of his article by publishing an open letter to Ryan D’Agostino, Editor in Chief of All News Pipeline. In the letter, Pry bluntly accused Mizokami of lying to the readers of All News Pipeline, adding that Mizokami “engaged in a classical case of dishonest cherry picking.” Later, Pry writes, “It is Mizokami himself who has misrepresented the facts in his fake news article, lied to the public about the real threat they face from EMP, and the urgency of protecting the critical infrastructures.”
Truthfully, North Korea’s threats to launch an EMP attack against the United States should be taken very seriously. Even though North Korea has been making threats against America for years and has yet to follow through, an EMP attack is capable of causing so much chaos and destruction that its best not to turn our heads and look the other way.”
http://www.bugout.news/2017-04-12-emp-commission-chairman-confirms-that-a-nuclear-emp-attack-could-kill-90-of-the-u-s-population.html
At least the US would be quiet for a year. That would be nice.
That is a hydrogen bomb and it is not the first time North Korea tested it. The previous test caused a 5.3 scale of earthquake with a yield of 40 k ton while this test a 6.3 scale of earthquake. Considering the yield increases by a power of 2 with every 0.1 scale increase, this yield is in mega range (40 k x 32=1280 k Ton) with 32 coming from 2**10.
Delighted for the DPRK, Bannon was right on Korea a month ago & is even more right today; if the US attacks or gets the south to stupidly attack for them, Seoul is gone in 30 minutes.
All in all, let’s take all BS aside with nuke tests, ICBMs, SLBMs, EMPs, etc, North Korea can annihilate the US. It is increasingly clear that North Korea’s next move will be to launch IRBMs around Guam. They are just laying the ground work for the launch.
North Korea tested MRLSs about a week ago and those MRLSs have a range of about 300 km, which should be able to cover the entire south korea (don’t have to use expensive short range missiles). All US bases and airbases in south korea are well within North Korea’s MRLSs. The first thing North Korea will do if there ever were a war in Korea is to destroy all the sea and air ports and US bases with a barrage of MRLSs. The test could be considered laying the ground work for launching IRBMs around Guam.
“The first thing North Korea will do if there ever were a war in Korea is to destroy all the sea and air ports and US bases with a barrage of MRLSs.”……
Sir I salute you, as I couldn’t have put it better myself (certainly without swearing).
Here are some videos of North Korean subs launching SLBMs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOBU0QwZtE0 North Korean subs launching a SLBM off California coast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AMdHBgHtNE
North Korea maintains one of the largest sub fleets in the world with close to 90 subs. North Korean subs are already patrolling US coasts.
North Korea runs one of the largest, if not the largest, research and development centers for nukes and missiles in the world around its capital Pyongyang with dedicated engineers and scientists. North Korea has enormous natural resources such as Uranium, Lithium (essential for hydrogen bomb), Iron, Magnesium, Rare earth minerals, etc. Here is an example of North Korean natural resources. North Korea has two-third of world’s rare earth minerals: http://thediplomat.com/2014/01/north-korea-may-have-two-thirds-of-worlds-rare-earths/ https://qz.com/1004330/north-korea-is-sitting-on-trillions-of-dollars-on-untapped-wealth-and-its-neighbors-want-a-piece-of-it/
With high quality Uranium reserves, North Korea can literally produce an unlimited number of nukes. Who knows how many nukes North Korea already has.
It is the varied and rare natural resource of North Korea that the US covets and that China and Russia will NEVER let them plunder.
High Noon September 3, 2017 Seismic Event, taking the place of the jew Messiah Event promised by the West for the past six decades, but I declined to oblige, the fact is I asked Allah to pass on my apologies for giving the jews the arse, which I did 66 years ago, High Noon September 3, 2017 Seismic Event was Allah answering my prayers, actually it wasn’t a H bomb at all it was a false flag covertly done by Allah.
NK and Iran are the best allies of China and Russia…without them both China and Russia would be at risk as US troops would move towards China/Russian border in the Pacific in case of “USA friendy NK goverment” allow it like Baltic countries did it!…for other hand Iran has helped to stop Qatar/Saudi gaspipelines to EU through Syria in order to cut gas prices…beside that in case of war NATO vs Russia..Iran would cut the strait of Ormuz and the EU faces supply problems!
AUGUST 21, 2017 “We Burned Down Every Town in North Korea” “We went over there and fought the war and eventually burned down every town in North Korea anyway, some way or another… Over a period of three years or so, we killed off, what, 20 percent of the population?”
— General Curtis LeMay, in “Strategic Air Warfare,” by Richard H. Kohn
The US public wants to know why North Korea is so paranoid, militarily hostile and boastful. And why do the leaders in the capital city Pyongyang point their fingers at the US every time they test another rocket or bomb? Sixty-five years after the US burned down every town in North Korea, the US military is now simultaneously bombing or rocketing seven different non-nuclear countries. The US conducts military exercises with South Korea off the North’s coastline twice a year.
The US regularly tests Minuteman-3 long-range nuclear missiles — from Vandenberg Air Base in California — that can reach and obliterate Pyongyang. Several presidential administrations have called North Korea “evil,” a “state sponsor of terrorism,” and “threatening.” US military officials have called North Korea’s tiny, backward, nearly failed state the “principle threat” to the US security. North Korea may have reason to worry.
North Korea’s rocket tests mostly fail but are nevertheless called “provocative” and “destabilizing” by the State Dept., the Council of Foreign Relations, and the White House. This is regardless of which party is in power. Bill Clinton said in 1994: “If North Korea ever used a nuclear weapon, it would no longer continue to exist.” Likewise today, Defense Secretary Jim “Mad Dog” Mattis used similarly bombastic language discussing North Korea August 8. John Walcott reported for Reuters that Mattis said the North must stop any action that would “lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people.”
Consider living memory
In Robert Neer’s 2013 book “Napalm,” the author reports that General Lemay wrote, “We burned down just about every city in North and South Korea both … we killed off over a million civilian Koreans…” Eighth Army chemical officer Donald Bode is quoted as saying, on an “average good day” … pilots in the Korean War “dropped 70,000 gallons of napalm: 45,000 from the U.S. Air Force, 10,000-20,000 by its navy, and 4,000-5,000 by marines” — marines who nicknamed the burning jellied gasoline “cooking oil.”
Neer found that a total of 32,357 tons of napalm were used on Korea, “about double that dropped on Japan in 1945.” More bombs were dropped on Korea than in the whole of the Pacific theater during World War II — 635,000 tons, versus 503,000 tons. “Pyongyang, a city of half a million people before 1950, was said to have had only two buildings left intact,” Neer wrote. This is still living memory in North Korea.
Howard Zinn’s “A People’s History of the United States” says, “Perhaps 2 million Koreans, North and South, were killed in the Korean war, all in the name of opposing ‘the rule of force.’” Bruce Coming’s 2010 history “The Korean War” says, “of more than 4 million casualties … at least 2 million were civilians. … Estimated North Korean casualties numbered 2 million including about 1 million civilians… An estimated 900,000 Chinese soldiers lost their lives in combat.”
After Truman fired Gen. MacArthur in May 1951, the former supreme commander testified to Congress, “The war in Korea has already almost destroyed that nation of 20 million people. I have never seen such devastation. I have seen, I guess, as much blood and disaster as any living man, and it just curdled my stomach, the last time I was there. After I looked at that wreckage and those thousands of women and children … I vomited.”
Dems take finger off the button (for a minute)
Two democratic presidential hopefuls said in 2007 that they’d take the threat of nuclear attack “off the table,” hinting at their discomfort with the idea of the Bomb’s deliberate mass destruction. In April 2006, then New York Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was asked in a TV interview about her position toward Iran. She said, “I have said publicly no option should be off the table, but I would certainly take nuclear weapons off the table. This [Bush] administration has been very willing to talk about using nuclear weapons in a way we haven’t seen since the dawn of the nuclear age. I think that’s a terrible mistake.”
On August 2, 2007, Barak Obama said to the AP, “I think it would be a profound mistake for us to use nuclear weapons in any circumstance,” pausing before he added, “involving civilians,” The New York Times reported. Obama quickly retracted the statement saying, “Let me scratch that,” but his intent was loud and clear — and needs repeating: The long-standing U.S. threat to “keep all options open,” that is its willingness to use nuclear weapons against human beings, must be abolished. H-bombs cannot be used without indiscriminately killing of hundreds of thousands if not millions of civilians, creating deadly radioactive fallout that drifts into non-conflict areas, and causing long-term environmental damage, all in violation of the laws of war, the UN Charter, and the Geneva Conventions.
Clinton’s and Obama’s public put-downs of nuclear weapons attacks are both rare and bold in their implications for the nuclear weapons establishment. More such talk should be encouraged.
At least a dozen former nuclear war planners — Kissinger, Jimmy Carter, Melvin Laird, Generals George Butler, Charles Horner Andrew Goodpaster, and Admirals Stansfield Turner, Noel Gayler, and Hyman Rickover, among others — have denounced nuclear weapons and called for their elimination.
What is it exactly to threaten to destroy an entire country’s people? Is it terrorism? Trump’s fire and fury “the likes of which the world has never seen” would have to be beyond the half million dead in the US Civil War; 18 million overall deaths in World War I and 50 to 80 million dead in World War II; 3 million dead Vietnamese and at least 2 million dead Koreans. As usual, Mr. Trump cannot be taken seriously, or he is frighteningly unhinged.
Even, the late Paul Nitze, Reagan White House presidential adviser, a rightwing Cold War hawk, and a founder of the anti-Soviet Committee on the Present Danger, wrote in the 1999, “I can think of no circumstances under which it would be wise for the United States to use nuclear weapons, even in retaliation for their prior use against us.”
SOURCE: https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/21/we-burned-down-every-town-in-north-korea/
Have a read – http://www.globalresearch.ca/north-korea-annihilation-massive-military-response-or-economic-warfare/5607281
I think, right now, one can say that North Korea can really have a good defense against a possible USA attack. Of course, in order to have this test, it means that NK must have several more in stock. Well done by NK government.
Yeah right. NK the midget wants to attack US the elephant with thermonuclear devices. The whole idea is preposterous and stupid. I mean, who comes up with this shit?
Stop this war !! The idea is to kill Korean people (south and North) and Japan people !!!. USA will not stop all nuclear misiles going to SK or Japan in order to achieved this goal, and it will nuclear-bomb NK to kill as many as possible people. This is a mass murder plan…..will Russia and China allow this to happen ?