Operation Euphrates Shield Undermines Kurdish Hopes for Autonomy in Syria

So bizarre to vehemently drive towards Manbij and provide airstrikes, only to immediately want the opposite now. If the Kurds were still pals with the Russians, this might not have happened.

Seems to me that the US caught wind of the Kurds trying to be too greedy and fully conquer the whole of northern syria. Just look at the recent events at Hasakah and Qamisli, where syrian troops and many civilians were forcefully expelled from their places (many died). And I think that, since the US doesn’t want to mess with Russia’s allies (SAA, NDF) too much, they just terminated the Kurds’ dream of Rojava. But they had it coming – Kurds betrayed SAA and got betrayed by the US.

Looks also like Russia, Syria and Iran have been severely snookered by Erdogan, with US help of course. I have to say it was a masterful plan. First, organize a coup deliberately intended to fail and leak it to Russians who “warn” Erdogan about something he knew very well was coming down. Erdogan pretends he’s hurt by US treachery, feigns gratitude for Russia’s warning and pretends he’s going to seal the border. Meanwhile, US snookers Kruds into alienating Russia and the Syrian government. Now, Turkey gets its “safe zone” in Northern Syria, the border is not sealed and things look very dire for both Kurds and Syrian government.

Rojava isn’t dead.. but it will not include anything west of the Euphrates. Most likely outcome: Kurds get NE corner of Syria, FSA-Turky gets NW Syria (including Jarabulus, Aleppo, Raqaa, Deir Zor), Assad gets western Syria (including Idlib, Latakia, Homs, Damasq). Essentially all parties sit at a table with a gigantic map and scissors and the war ends.

Its a question now as to whether Erdo is a triple crosser or a quadruple crosser.

You guys didn’t get it. – Erdogan = Muslim Brotherhood = islamic reactionaries who are eager to play by the US rules (elections and WTO), to take power from the secular governments – Turkey = NATO pawn since 1952, whose airspace was used as training camp for the IDF jets – US narrative = “the inevitable march towards multicultural liberal democracy” => supports implementation of “democracy” (= rule of relativism = rule of money), through War & InfoWar, even if the Muslim Brotherhood wins elections or islamists win civil war. They then expect to beat the islamists, through dialectics. => hence their support of Erdogan in 2003, “Arab Spring” in 2011, Morsi in 2012-13, islamists in Syria, etc. – There is an Israeli plan, the Yinon plan, to balkanize the Middle-East into “democracies” using local identities as leverage. Being spread over 4 key countries, the Kurds are essential.

– Russia = opponent of NATO and American-Israeli imperialism since Stalin refused a world UN government. Since USSR, they have ties with the Kurdish PKK, but Öcallan has moved towards Trotskysm and CIA. Putin keeps the Kurdish card in the event Turkey would use the Chechen card.

Now, antizionism is very strong in the Muslim world, no matter where you look. In Turkey, the AK Party is not zionist. It looks like they played the US game of democracy, and, after some cheating over press freedom, they won.

Note the US can’t say much now. They need Turkey. Now that the Kemalists, and even Gülenists, are removed from the State and Deep State, the US have little leverage on Turkey, to keep it in line.

Davutoğlu (PM 2014-2016, FM 2009-2014) is the mindmaster of Turkey’s strategy since the AK Party rose to power. In 2001 he wrote a book called “Strategic Depth” in which he argued that Turkey has the capacity to be a regional power, under some conditions. – “at home, solve the Kurdish question and the secularism question” – “zero problem with neighbours policy” – this is a strategy, not an article of faith Yet this was tried at first. The AKP received votes from the Kurdish regions. And Turkish diplomacy restored ties with Armenia, Iran, Syria.

Davutoğlu also said that Turkey’s relationship with Israel was “unnatural” and should instead foster ties with Turkic minorities. Erdogan clashed with Shimon Peres in 2009. In 2010 Turkey sent a Flotilla to Gaza, the Israelis killed 10+, and Israeli-Turkish relationships were damaged for 6 years.

With the Arab spring and the Syrian war, the “0 problem policy” was a mere dream. Davutoğlu himself lost it. War in Syria, War in Karabagh, no ties with Russia, no ties with Israel, civil war with the Kurds, strained relationship with the EU, and criticism from the US.

He was replaced in May 2016 by Yıldırım, who immediately restored ties with Israel and let Gülenists attempt their coup. What better idea than a purge, to “solve all domestic issues”? He then moved on to restore ties with Russia, and Syria. “0 problem policy”.

The Muslim brotherhood ideology is at odds with the US/Zionist imperialism. But Turkey is still going to get as much as they can.

Nobody cares anymore if you use the term of Nazi or Neo-nazi. The grandfathers of all russian people were allied with Hitler till 1941, don’t you know ?

Yes, I have read this too about the training program, but not abut the Tusk ;heritage’. Thanks.

And this has exactly what to do with Syria?

long live erdogan in prison

which people?

Not sure if you realize that the SAA is tied up with trying to stay alive. They cannot airlift anything without Iranian or Russian planes doing it (and carrying HA or Iranian/Afghan/Iraqi forces).