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Originally appeared at MoonOfAlabama
There is a curious coincidence of a remark Secretary of State Kerry made to Syrian opposition activists and a new paint scheme applied to some U.S. military jets.
October 1 2016: Kerry in leaked audio: ‘I lost the argument’ for use of force in Syria
Washington (CNN) Secretary of State John Kerry’s frustration with the failure of American diplomacy was on display as he defended US efforts to help end the five-year civil war in Syria during a meeting last week with a group of Syrian civilians, according to an audio recording obtained by CNN.
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Kerry’s comments came at a meeting that took place at the Dutch Mission to the United Nations on the sidelines the UN General Assembly, where Kerry was going from session to session in a frenzied effort to resuscitate a ceasefire that seemed poised to collapse.
A complete audio recording of the meeting between Kerry, some of his staff, and some Syrians is available on youtube.
Of interest is a short segment about alleged Russian bombing beginning at 11:18. The female Arab-English interpreter translates remarks by a Syrian, believed to be the Syrian front-man of the White Helmets scam Raed Saleh, about the difficulties of supervising ceasefires.
Interpreter (translating from a male Arabic speaker): We don’t believe that Russia can be the guarantor of the actions of the regime. We see Russia is a partner of the regime in bombing Syrians, Syrian civilians, market places, even our own team, the Syrian Civil Defense team. We documented since the start of the Russian intervention in Syria from day one until February of this year more than 17 of our Syrian Civil Defense personal have been killed by Russian airstrikes.
Kerry: Do you have any videos of the airplanes of these strikes?
(crosstalk interpreter and male Arab voice)
Kerry: Can we get that (unintelligible) videos the agents have been asking for?
(crosstalk interpreter and male Arab voice)
Kerry staff member: So can I just say – we get a lot of videos of the victims of these attacks, they are terrible, but they don’t help us. We need videos of the actual aircrafts and ammunition. And there is a lot of them on the internet but we don’t know whether they are real or not. Verified videos of the actual aircraft is the most useful thing. …
These men can be helped, though someone in the U.S. military – or not.
A Canadian journalist based in Eastern/Central Europe, Christian Borys tweeted yesterday:
Christian Borys @ItsBorysThe U.S is painting their F/A-18’s to match the paint schemes of Russian jets in #Syria. Standard training, but interesting nonetheless. pic.twitter.com/FVN6tMj2Ji
1:45 PM – 6 Oct 2016
This is the attached pic:
The first three pics are of an U.S. F/A-18 fighter and attack aircraft in Russian coloring. (The wingtips are raised for storage as this is a carrier enabled plane. The windows of the raised cockpit hood are covered with white sun protection sheets.) On the bottom right is a picture of a Russia SU-34 in the usual Russian color scheme as it is also used by the Russian contingent in Syria.
It would be extremely difficult to distinguish these like-colored planes from each other in a shaky fly-by and “bombing” video.
The U.S. regularly uses planes in “enemy” color schemes as “aggressor force” during training and maneuvers. It helps U.S. pilots to get used to “enemy” targets during air-to-air combat training. So this can all be, like Christian Borys assumes, “standard training”.
But there is also Kerry’s talk with the Syrian opposition and his explicit request for videos of “Russian” jets bombing in Syria.
This may be an innocent coincidence: Secretary Kerry is asking the scam artists of the White Helmets for video of Russian jets “bombing civilians” in Syria and, just by chance, the U.S. military is painting one of its jets to look like a “Russian” Su-34 strike fighter like those deployed in Syria.
But many incidents in Syria, the Ghouta gas attack, the recent aid convoy attack, get attributed to Russia or the Syrian government without any proof (or even despite contrary evidence). The media always eat these falsehoods up based simply on some official’s say-so, some unverified pictures or video and without asking any further questions. A “Russian attack” on some large civilian target like a refugee camp, documented on video!, would be a very easy sell. The propagandized “uproar” over such an attack could be easily used to launch a wider war. The attack on the Gleiwitz Radio tower, the Gulf of Tonkin incident and “Saddam’s WMDs” come to mind. Kerry is not shy of such lying. Today he invented a new hospital attack, said it was a war crime and that Russia and Syria should be investigated. No such attack happened.
The Russian parliament ratified an agreement with Syria about the indefinite stationing of Russian forces in Syria. Yesterday the Russian Ministry of Defense warned that Russian soldiers are embedded with Syrian units on the ground and that they would be defended against any attempt of air attacks by the Russian air-defense in Syria. U.S. media called such matter of course statement bellicose talk.
There is plenty of lose talk in U.S. media about attacking Syrian and Russian forces in Syria. The U.S. recently bombed a Syrian unit in a well known position it had held for many month. 82 Syrian soldier died and many more were wounded. The strike furthered the advance of ISIS on the besieged Deir Ezzor. That was no ‘mistake’ as the U.S. claimed.
Russia will defend its forces in Syria and it will defend Syria’s sovereignty. It is not alone. A Chinese navy frigate just arrived in the Syrian port Tartus. Should that trip-wire get touched 1.3 billion Chinese would join the Russians, Iranians and Syrians in waging war against the U.S. “regime change” attempt in Syria. Washington is warned. No cheap paint scheme trickery will be accepted as reason to hold back. Russia WILL hit back should the need arise.
Any attack on Russian or Syrian forces would be illegal. Kerry himself, in the above linked talk, says that the U.S. has absolutely no legal grounds for any such attack. It would be illegitimate and a crime. But the U.S. is not known for staying strictly within the framework of international law. Russia is well advised to warn of the eventual consequences of any breach. There is nothing “bellicose” about that.
Its just my opinion and they in Russia may have already reached the conclusion, that this war started quite some time ago. In the US there is a large very large group of elites who simply will not stop until this happens! By this I mean an armed confrontation with Russia. The financial attacks are every bit as much the same as cruise missiles. The sanctions are paramount to siege warfare. At every opportunity Russia has been painted as the villain and it will continue. I see no need for false flags! Simply look at the track record of every story told, it is not just the Russian government or its military these people went as far as to discredit Russian athletes in the Olympics! The narrative is there, major news outlets openly flaunt propaganda and now that Picture of F18’s painted to look specifically as Russian AF. They say a pictures worth a thousand words! I am truly sorry to say that picture could prove to show it will costs thousands of lives!
Don’t you mean hundreds of millions of lives or perhaps a few billion.
If you think overpopulation and pollution, which cannot be resolved by civil means obviously (therefore, NWO), then a few BILLION (as opposed to million) dead would be considered beneficial by certain people, wont you think ? If they can make it to their private islands/mountain resorts with those ten+ year shelters, they might go for it. So much to gain, nothing to lose (the planet is headed for disaster within 20+ years) – only the sheeple think climate change, overpopulation ans pollution are a hoax. If it was me, I would be bold enough to say YES – bring it on.
Unfortunately, I think you’re right about their evil, but fortunately wrong about the prognosis for their survival.
I agree with your comment. Only the utterly deluded would think they could survive. Not just the environment changing but the fact that they are soft and pampered.
Yes the climate changes but I’m not gullible enough to think humans can change it with a carbon tax or that carbon dioxide is a pollutant. I was skeptical even before the hadley “research” center among others were caught rigging data. Besides, if co2 was a pollutant why no plans to plant more forests to help tocounterbalance? Real pollution is a huge and existential threat like fukushima, the nuclear waste buried in the us around ww2 and never stored properly, chemical runoff, pharma waste, etc. Governments choose to focus on fantasies like co2 “pollution” rather than real and harmful pollution though.
First of all, one needs little scientific training to understand that planting trees effectively sequesters CO2 produce from burning wood, but can sequester only an insignificant fraction of the CO2 released by burning coal that has accumulated through millions of years of plants buried in sediments and compressed to reduce it to elementary carbon.
Next, you might want to carefully read this: http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/science-deniers-false-equivalency-pretend-debate/ paying special attention to
the data discussed was a small part of the total mountain of data supporting global warming–but in the world of false equivalence, this one set of emails, which proved nothing that was claimed by the climate-change deniers, was considered as an important justification to show that there was a massive conspiracy to fake data about climate change. Except for a few facts like–the emails didn’t say what the deniers think they say, and that even if there was a problem with the data, it was on one tiny little corner of the whole mountain of evidence supporting anthropogenic climate change. The science behind anthropogenic climate change is unchanged, and powerful.
Nobody I know of denies that climate changes. It always has and always will, long after humans are gone. I’ve read the science on acc but I’ll read what you suggest as well because I do have an open mind about it and do care for the environment. So far from what I can tell is that the sun has more effect on climate than humans ever could. Scientist lab coats have also replaced priest robes as they pertain to government control and are easily bought with funding Much of the “research” has a predetermined outcome. Pharmaceutical studies are notorious for this. Do you know if science ever figured out how much co2 is even put out by volcanoes? Last I checked only about five percent of the ocean floor has been explored so as far as I know they don’t even have a number on how many volcanoes are on earth underwater. One of Gore’s hirelings came up with idea of offsetting co2 by plantlife which he was fired for. He estimated around an 18% increase in plant life on earth would offset what is put out by the us if I remember correctly. It’s been a while since I’ve read that though so I could be off on the figures. The whole carbon tax scam only works if the planet is warming though which many scientists are predicting cooling. That’s the main problem I have with acc is that, instead of trying to offset it, governments will simply use it to milk more currency out of the population and use it for their own gain like the us with the epa. I care about the environment but to me real pollution is more of a problem than climate change which humans just have to change with as we always have. The medieval warming period was warmer that it is at present and couldn’t be blamed on population. I will recheck the subject of acc though because I haven’t in a while. If you aren’t aware of who all got busted rigging data I would suggest checking out the climategate section at whatreallyhappened.com . It’s link is at the top of the main page. There’s been many caught rigging and others refusing to hand over raw data.
You briefly hit upon one of the things I noticed: everything I read suggested that the effect should be cooling at the atmosphere levels we live in, yet at the end all the explanations given, they always jump to warming without any explanation of how cold became hot. It always bothered me.
” Bold enough to say Yes bring it on” Not sure I f I read this wrong, but it sounds like you are in favor of population reduction to save the planet? This due to its impending disaster? Or do you simply mock those with their shelters in the mountains?
even if US does use the planes to shoot videos. it will not change anything. both countries have tight manipulation of public opinion. everyone will remain in their opinion.
Not very false flag if everyone knows about it. The US leadership is dangerous but also as dumb as a box of rocks.
They don’t bother if people know about it, they just need a motive to put on paper and medias before intervening. Did they care to perfect their story about WMD before invading Iraq ? Did they provide factual evidences that Qaddafi was killing millions of Libyans before destroying the state institutions of that country ?
And they always have been, right back to George Washington. Ever read about his bumbling military career, which was repainted as glorious despite being a serious of epic disasters unless in a position of overwhelming advantage or saved by a smarter staff officer? High level Freemasons believe in the innate talent of their bloodlines, and their destiny to succeed, and that produces a particularly special kind of stupid.
The Imperial banana republic git jammed, and have simply humiliated them selfs, and on top of it continued with their perversion of reality in such an scale and scope I can only admire it, in awe.
Nobody believes them anymore, their hypocrisy and one sidedness is slackjawing and served with no shame what so ever, american phsycophats, they just throw out episodes as some sort of sheild, wild acusations about atrocetys, where no other know entety have, expect the “brave” Saudis slaughtered so much children as the Ameristanistas, 500 000 in Iraq, yeah, and it was wurth it, right allbright.
They are but naked, they batle for having something will include an false flag and I think this one will be their last one, nobody will belive anything, what the MSM drools, nobody bothers, what the corrupt UN have to say is even more irrelevant, and what can they do anyway.
Their scrap bok have one that they want to use left, an nuke, I just wounder where, It may even be N. Korea, since this theater is not going anywhere they way they wanted it, but something to bomb anyway and there is N. Korea an suthable enemy. They are physcopaths never forget that, and blood is their goal, fueled by greed, and it all becuase of an f…. pipe line.
Yankees, go home.
peace
Make that ‘another false flag attack’. Kerry’s frustration at diplomatic process=US betrayal on the ground. U.S. calls for another cease.fire=Manpads/weapons upgrade for their terrorist army. Western press=State controlled propaganda machines.
don’t fret too much about the paint on the f-18. It’s happened since many years as the planes who’d serve the role of “Aggressors” for USAF and USN training would be painted with soviet / russian camoflages, even with red stars. In addition, I don’t think that the author has a point when he says they can’t be distinguished from real russian planes in a “shaky video”: if the video is clear enough to tell that there is a plane that “looks like” in a certain way, then it’s clear enough to tell if it’s a F-18 or a SU-34. They are in fact very different aircraft and anything more than amateur analysts would spot the difference. The pentagon or whoever, cannot run the risk of doing this kind of shit and get caught.
This while correct is the problem. During the cold war it was obvious and openly stated that the USSR was our enemy. No question about it. Now it again makes that statement. The US openly trains for war with Russia. Hell half the elites openly advocate it the MSM advocates it and now we see the US military actively training for it. This is a huge issue. Aggressor squadrons since the end of the cold war have been painted in many varying schemes, but this is specific to the Russian Air force and is not for dissimilar visual recognition but to train the pilots to spot there enemies, visual recognition! In this case the Russian Air Force.
I don’t see this as a problem, the rivalry goes well deep into history and it never subsided, even when the drunk and traitor B. Eltsin was president of Russia. Also, paint-schemes are just a “visual” feature, that kind of dissimilar training is much more than recognizing a plane painted in a certain way as an enemy. In fact, they try to recreate the tactics and combat procedure of the potential enemy, and being a NATO enemy unlikely at best, of course they employ those of Russia and China, procedures which are also similar in the client countries of these two. Anyway, although the USAF and USN claim it’s so useful, actually I don’t see their F-18s or F-15s being credible emulators of Migs and Suhois. Actually they are inferior in terms of kinematics, so there ‘s not that much dissimilarity in those practice.
Oh sure……they’ll bomb there own people and blame the Russians!