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Overview Of Battle For Deir Ezzor On September 17, 2017 (Maps, Analysis)

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Overview Of Battle For Deir Ezzor On September 17, 2017 (Maps, Analysis)

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The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) Tiger Forces, the Syrian Republican Guard (SRG), Hezbollah and their allies are consolidating their gains in the Deir Ezzor countryside, on the western bank of the Euphrates River.

On Sunday, pro-government forces fully secured the areas of Jafrah, Ayyash, Tal Kuriya on the both northwestern and southeastern flanks of Deir Ezzor city. With these gains, the SAA and the SRG fully encircled ISIS units inside Deir Ezzor city on the western bank.

Furthermore, the SAA and its allies continued their advance against ISIS in the both directions and seized additional positions near Jafrah and Ayyash. ISIS counter-attacks were repelled.

Overview Of Battle For Deir Ezzor On September 17, 2017 (Maps, Analysis)

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A fighting was also reported inside Deir Ezzor on the frontline between government forces and ISIS units. However, no gains were made by the both sides.

Control over Jafrah also opens an additional opportunity to advance on the ISIS-held Sakr island. If the SAA and its allies choose this way, the island could be turned in a useful foothold for further operations on the other bank of the Euphrates.

Overview Of Battle For Deir Ezzor On September 17, 2017 (Maps, Analysis)

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The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) the 7 Kilo roundabout and all factories around it north of Deir Ezzor, the group said in an official statement. The 7 Kilo roundabout is located in about 7km from the Euphrates. In other words, so far, the SDF has not reached the river bank.

The Russian Defense Ministry’s spokesman, Major-General Igor Konashenkov, rejected US claims that the Russian Aerospace Forces had targeted the SDF on September 16.

He added that Russian forces conduct strikes on the both sides of the Euphrates and that the Russian military has not observed a fighting between the SDF and ISIS over the past few days. The general said that “only representatives of the international coalition can answer the question” how the SDF has advanced so far with no fighting against ISIS. The strikes on the eastern bank of the Euphrates show that the Syrian-Iranian-Russian alliance sees its as an area of its military operations.

Syrian experts believe that the SDF is in fortunate position on the eastern bank of the Euphrates. A major part of the oil-gas infrastructure in Deir Ezzor province is located on this bank of the river and ISIS shows little resistance to the US-backed force. On the other hand, the ongoing advance of the Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) and the Iraqi Army towards the ISIS-held border town of al-Qaim could change the situation. Many PMU factions particiapte in an anti-ISIS campaign of the Syrian government inside Syria. These factiosn could cross the border and to assist the SAA in its advance towards al-Bukamal. The liberation of al-Bukamal is another option to open a way for an advance alongside the eastern bank of the Euphrates.

Overview Of Battle For Deir Ezzor On September 17, 2017 (Maps, Analysis)

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Meanwhile, A pro-Turkish Syrian news media outlet “Qasioun” reported that Syrian government forces had crossed the Euphrates. According to Qasioun, Mohammed Khalid Shaker, a spokesperson for Jaysh al-Nukhba, said on September 17 that crossing of the Euphrates is a part of the US-Russia deal over Syria.

On September 16, the Jaysh al-Nukhba spokesman argued that the alleged Russian airstrike on the SDF north of Deir Ezzor is just a part of the Russian military strategy in the area. He told Qasioun that Russia “is propping SDF project that is contrary to Syria’s unity as a priority in the political process.”

Jaysh al-Nukhba (or the Elite Army) is a Turkish-backed faction of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) operating in western Syria. Turkish and pro-Turkish media covering the conflict as well as representatives of the Turkish-backed “moderate” FSA factions remain critical towards the Syrian-Iranian-Russian alliance. However, it’s clear that they shift their attitude further and further as Turkey, Iran, Syria and Russia develop their diplomatic vision of the conflict in Syria thourgh the Astana format. This also impacts the Turkey-led forces attitude towards the situation in eastern Syria.

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Jordan Katz

I found a pretty good article concerning the new Sukhoi-57 fighter (aka PAK/FA) that goes into detail about it’s 5th gen characteristics. Hopefully this will help clear the air of some myths & misconceptions on the subject. Here’s the link: https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.wordpress.com/2016/04/27/sukhoi-t-50-pak-fa-russia/ https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2d4dff171b1beae6ae540656c4ee343d181b137f9d3f7e84c64d2334a83e52f8.jpg

Richard M

Looks like a fighter designed for one purpose. Air to air combat. You believe air to air combat will be occurring soon in Syrian skies?

Jordan Katz

The article also goes into great detail about the planes armament/weapons (begins about halfway-in) which do include Air-to-Ground & Anti-Ship missiles. They can also carry cruise missiles, but I’m assuming such a large ordinance would have to be mounted on hard points. Not internally.

Deo Cass

Major-General Igor Konashenkov stated; Quote: “..the Russian military has not observed any fighting between the SDF and ISIS over the past few days. The general said that “only representatives of the international coalition can answer the question” how the SDF has advanced so far with no fighting against ISIS.” This is proof of what I have been saying for a long time now. The Kurds conveniently dubbed SDF, ARE ISIS, are foreign Zio/Nazi terror squads contracted to place Syria and the Syrian people once again under Western colonial rule and tyranny. After this the reclaiming of all the oil and gas fields on the Eastern banks of the Euphrates river should precede any other priority for the Syrian people’s government forces.

Ronald

Certain proof , it also lends credibility to the Iranian claim that they have breached US communications .

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SOF

Getting those oilfields are an absolute priority now for the Russian-Iranian-SAA Alliance. Letting them fall into SDF hands will reduce their bargaining power on the table. The SAA will have to do risky heliborne operations, probably a big one to get as many oil fields at once.

PZIVJ

The SAA has very limited air assault ability. The drop zone needs to be linked up with ground forces ASAP. So it would just be a suicide mission. Arnhem, 1944 :(

Justin

Kurds “Good guy proxy of US” ISIS “bad guy proxy of US”

US says to its bad guy proxy, “get out of the way, we need to get to DeZ as fast as possible, we want that oil and we need to keep the Eastern side of the Euphrates so that we can create a Kurdish state from these oil rich lands”!

“Then we push the Kurds in Syria and Iraq to expand their Kurdish state into Turkey and Iran, that way we have access to the Caspian Sea and the Black Sea! We can build pipes across the Black Sea and take away Russia’s energy market to Europe and ensure all oil and gas is traded in US dollars! Then we can print more wealth and bully other nations around the world into submission”!

Russia is going all out on this one! You can bet ur balls on it! And if u think the North Korea threat has nothing to do with the Syrian threat or the NATO exercises on the Russian border, or the war in Eastern Ukraine, then u might wanna think again!

We are on the CUSP of WW3!

And we have IDIOTS who support the Kurds here! Giving them sympathy is like giving Sympathy to the Jews! And what did the Jews do?? They took the land of Palestine! This Kurdish state is the same fucking thing!

No more sympathy! No more good guy or bad guy proxies for the USA Its just USA proxies and thats it! YELLOW IS THE NEW BLACK! GET USED TO IT!

Anyone who is pro SDF / Kurds is anti- SAA and anti Russian!

Who is the enemy here? The USA is! Who is the enemy of my enemy? SAA, Iran, Syria, Iraq!

Then the enemy of my enemy is my friend! Its that simple!

NO MORE HEGEMONIC CRUSADES! NO MORE! IT ENDS HERE! YELLOW IS BLACK!!!! There is no in between great area!

CHOOSE!

Richard M

I’m sure that any RuAF strikes on SDF were “accidental”. Just like the frequent USAF “accidental” strikes on SAA! :D

SKY

But there is no proof that RUAF did this.All circumstantial from many sides

gustavo

Despite the big Russia announcement about SAA crossing Euphrates river, it is not clear at all where SAA is on the other side of the river. Less is clear whether or not the forces are leading to oil fields at Omar to recover and to protect them. IT IS NOT CLEAR AT ALL ! Russia needs to make something serious about given enough protection and support to Syria-Iran-Hezbolah-Russian ground forces to recover these oil fields and to STOP SDF (kurds, USA-puppets). If this means war with USA, well GOD FORGIVES US.

Ronald

Bruce Lee was so fast , he could tell an opponent he was going to hit with his left , and he would , few were fast enough to stop him . The SAA has been on the other side for a number of days , “it is not clear at all ! ” , is a good thing . Just where to land a force , just where ISIS is strong and where it is weak is all useful .We do not need forgiveness , we need to use our intelligence .

gustavo

Yes, you are right. With the news I read today, I realized that Syria government gives the required importance to Omar oil fields as one could expected, that was my only worry about. I hope Syria-Hezbolah-Iran-Russia ground force with strong protection and support from areospace Russia force stop totally SDF (kurds, USA-puppets) army.

gustavo

According to what have been observed from these news, it looks like the oil fields at Omar are kept by ISIS to be given to SDF (kurds, USA-puppets). I do not believe there will be a strong fight ¿? between SDF and ISIS-Daesh. However,, if SAA (Syria) tries to get back these oil fields, there will be a very strong fight between SAA and ISIS-Daesh. Now, if ISIS-Daesh just pass these oil fields to SDF (kurds) ¿ does it mean that this was due a previous agreement between Russia and USA ? To me this is very curious since SAA have been announcement since 4 days ago that is about to cross Euphrates, but nothing really is happening in this aspect. Yo might say, “because SAA is busy in other areas and wants to assured areas and bla bla bla “. I just can tell you want thing, NOTHING RIGHT NOW IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN TO RECOVER OIL FIELDS AT OMAR,…..NOTHING !

Volker Burkert

“NOTHING RIGHT NOW IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN TO RECOVER OIL FIELDS AT OMAR,…..NOTHING !” You really think, sitting presumably 10000km away from the action in Syria, know better than the Syria government, the SAA, the Russian government, etc., what is most important? Where do you get your intelligence from to have a realistic judgment of the situation?

DJ Double D

I want to make sure that everybody understands this. There will be a serious attempt by the SAA Tiger Forces to cross the Euphrates river as soon as this week. The bridges are being laid by the Tiger Forces. The Operation is almost complete. Ironically, ISIS is not doing anything to disrupt this process leading people to wonder why. People were expecting that they will be attacking all effort to install the crossing bridge. Initial plan as of September 15 was to cross within 48 – 72 hours but then came the Kurdish accusation of Russia/SAA bombing and the threat to attack SAA forces if they cross the Euphrates. It is now obvious that the Kurds knew about the plan to cross the river and then levied this accusation which was just enough to derail the plan. Nevertheless, the plan to cross is still in motion and could happen this week, even if not as early as originally planned. This information is from a reliable source on the ground. The source anticipates that SAA will be attacked not only by ISIS but also by the Kurds but that the storm will be weathered and foothold will be set for rapid further advance.

electron

If there were ANY truth to your claims, Syrians & Russians will have been humiliated for generations, and would have already lost the east of the country. SDF would simply get emboldened to make many more such claims, and beat the Syrians without a shot fired. Not to mention the morale superiority they would feel by having scared saa/Russia away with empty threats. The incompetent diplomacy by Moscow is hard to bare!

Instead of having Lavrov announce officially that saa/Russian SOF are going to cross the river to continue fight against dash and reclaim what is legal and rightful Syrian land, they instead summoned Zahkarviva, who went on to claim the crossing had already been done, only to be proven a lie!

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

They crossed already this is another operation including tiger forces,this is the third or fourth coming up as the keep sending to various points to strike from. Even DJ DoubleD has been off on timing of various plans, they have a ton of air cover for these units.

Right now a lot of fake reports by the US and claims to their actual positions, ISIS hunters are directing fire and other units of the SAA special forces are securing on crossing points. US is too chickenshit to start anything , they would be crucified and these Generals would face more than courtmartial , public executions for treason wold come to mind.

SOF

For something as critical as getting those oilfields (to increase bargaining power of the SAA that wants to have a united Syria) I doubt we will get anything reliable when information blackout is necessary during this time.

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

I think they might have used the US tactics against them as they figured out they were in cahoots. I would use a ruse to get them out of the oilfields with the least amount of bloodshed and pretend to be SDF forces. This would account for the large volume in surrendering as this would be an easy Ruse de Guerre to pull off.

Solomon Krupacek

meet the positron!

Graeme Rymill

As this is ultra top secret information I propose that in future when discussing this in this open forum we use the codeword “Arse Clown” in reference to this operation. Over and out.

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

This would have been another crossing even your source is being blanketed in the black out , this crossing would have been the Tiger led forces. Right now they are testing them with what they have right now ,knowing if they come under fire this will ruin the US/SDF/ISIS alliance in the media.

DJ Double D

You are probably talking about Maria’s confirmation that the SAA has already crossed. My source said that it is not a fighting force but reconnaissance troops. If you had read my post 3 days ago confirming that they did infact cross, you would have read how it happened. I detailed it then. What Maria said infact confirmed what I already said. However, this potential crossing will be the main one as it will involve massive fire across the Euphrates to dislodge and disorient the enemy. Doing this type of crossing is not a cake and butter, especially when faced with potential Kurds attack as well. If you had been following my predictions all along, you would acknowledge that I have been doing pretty good job at getting it right. It takes a lot to have good sources on the ground and I don’t presume to know everything as my sources are also human beings and real time situation can change anytime.

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

They had already crossed with some special forces to secure the banks , ISIS hunters are on the other side coordinating the airstrikes. The Russian Engineers were sent to set these up watch at the speed how this is done, they can manage this under air cover and controlling the other bank.They Syrian Naval Special forces secure points to cross as they prep the pontoon bridges, so the armored can cross.

Saker Island will be in SAA hands soon as they are continuing to push east and had landed a group of special forces and mechanized infantry to secure the oilfields. This one will block the advance to the east as the SDF are low on manpower and force them to go around. They have enough pilots trained on those new SU25sm3 planes and they will receive more planes as the training progresses.

Russian intends to update the military in Syria and securing those fields will have been the priority and not cutting off the SDF. Wait for an announcement in this regard once they cut off the US/ISIS/SDF. The plan phase 3 has included the flanking from the south with the Iraqi Army and PMU the 2 countries coordinated the attack on Akashat and cleared ISIS in no time.They have 3 battles that will be joint and are able to go 10 km into each other’s border as it stands.

They are playing their cards close to their chest as they are securing the banks so as the SDF doesn’t cross. They will soon have the bridge from DE to use as they are repairing that to cross.They proceed west and secure Maadan soon after the next Town only 1000 remain in the west pocket.

Cyriak Papasissis

Maria Zakharova in her Friday briefing in Crimea announced that the SAA has crossed already into the east bank of the Euphrates.

DJ Double D

My source said that it is not a fighting force but reconnaissance troops. If you had read my post 3 days ago confirming that they did infact cross, you would have read how it happened. I detailed it then. What Maria said infact confirmed what I already said. However, this potential crossing will be the main one as it will involve massive fire across the Euphrates to dislodge and disorient the enemy. Doing this type of crossing is not a cake and butter, especially when faced with potential Kurds attack as well.

Zainab Ali

victory will be for those who sincerely go all out for the syrian war … since the true fact, on the ground, is … saa and her allies (doing the hard work all the while) is against zio satanic terrorists like the sdf ( and illegal us coalition) and isis

General Surena

KURDS WİLL BE “THE BİGGEST LOSER” HERE… wait and see

Tudor Miron

Agree. They play “devils side” hoping thst is will honor their deal. Being useful idiot is… well it’s their choice.

John Brown

Now Russia, Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Iran and China can declare the SDF as part of ISIS and attack the both.

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