The Israeli military announced late on September 11 that its warplanes had carried out a new wave of airstrikes on the Gaza Strip in response to the recent rockets attacks.
“IDF [Israeli Defense Forces] fighter jets and aircraft attacked a number of targets in a military compound belonging to the Hamas terror group in the northern Gaza Strip. The attack was in response to the rocket fire from the Gaza Strip at Israeli territory earlier in the day … The IDF will continue to act against attempts to harm citizens of Israel and sees the Hamas terror group as responsible for what is done in the Gaza Strip,” the army said in an official statement.
The Shehab Agency confirmed that a headquarters of the Hamas Movement in the area of Beit Lahia in northern Gaza was targeted by several Israeli airstrikes. No one was reportedly killed or injured as a result.
During the airstrikes, Palestinian fighters targeted Israeli warplanes with heavy machine guns. The unusual air-defense fire triggered a false rocket alarm in several Israeli settlements near Gaza.
In the last 48 hours, at least five rockets were launched from the Gaza Strip. Israel responded with dozens of strikes on the Palestinian region.
No group has claimed responsibility for these rocket attacks, so far. Israel had held Hamas responsible. However, the Palestinian group denied this, according to several sources.
silly—wasting bullets on warplanes
Resistance is never futile
only effective resistance is not futile
Do you suggest they sit at home and cry with their women and children like American soyboys?
better to resist w weapons that can have effect
Yes and no!
Statistics from WW2 in Germany say: 17.000 shots on average, one hit but
No resistance is a bad sign
striking true is relevant; planes r now far better reinforced than in WWII
Shooting at warplanes with bullets is futile.
More US planes were taken down with AAA in Vietnam than anything else.
If flying at low altitude, aircraft loses includes helicopters. Sometimes it’s good to waste ammo in the air, to make the local population feel a little bit more secure.
I think there is a difference between AAA(Anti Aircraft Artillery) and just shooting with Heavy Machine Guns. But then I guess a definition of “heavy machine guns” would be in order.
.50 cal, 12.7 mm HMG have taken down a lot of aircraft. 20 mm is usually defined as automatic cannon. I have both .50 cal and 20 mm equipment in my gun trust. The 20 mm can be necked down to .50 cal so that it’s US legal and rebarrelled with alloy for hypersonic mach 5 plus velocities that will take down F-16s. Not that I’m planning on shooting at any. But I might at a hostile ET ship that is a threat.
“Until the 1950s, guns firing ballistic munitions ranging from 7.62 mm to 152.4 mm were the standard weapons”
– Anti-aircraft warfare –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-aircraft_warfare
“.50 cal, 12.7 mm HMG have taken down a lot of aircraft.” Is that modern aircraft? Also “can take down and F-16” doesn’t necessarily mean there is a high probability of it. Do you have any reports of success? Just asking.
The US lost F-4, 15 & 16 planes in Iraq to Russian AAA.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7e42491d046baebf7d5a4eebe4133de627e53d1104983218c310f6d5b5175760.png
– M45 Quadmount –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M45_Quadmount
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/087ea059cc879a30691dc574552536bc1339884e4f305129cebe1be0759b40ff.png
– 0.50″/90 (12.7 mm) M2 Browning MG (BMG) –
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_50cal-M2_MG.php
Hmm. I would wonder if they could even see what they were shooting at since it was night time.
I’m running night vision, thermal, tracers and lasers on ET/ED/non conventional lifeform contact ops. I’m assuming that Hamas has similar capabilities. You can see what looks like tracers in the video. Not all lasers beams are visible. Some are just a dot on the target.
If their HMGs are set up with advanced optics and lasers. Even with manual aiming they can get on a fixed wing aircraft with their sights and hit it. If they’re running hypersonic guns and ammunition. There’s very little time between detonation and impact at the ranges involved. Hypersonics also extend the range. 15s and 16s usually aren’t armored like A-10s. If they get hit with a burst it’s a problem. Particularly if they’re incendiary or HE rounds.
This is the version that I have. It’s listed as both automatic cannon and heavy machine gun depending on the source:
“Max. Range: 4390m/ 4800 yds Max. Effective Range: 914m/1000 yds Ceiling: 3050m /10,000 ft at 90°”
– 20mm Anti-Aircraft Machine Gun –
https://www.ussslater.org/tour/weapons/20mm/20mm.html
Interesting. I wonder how high the jets were flying.
They may have been within range in terms of altitude. But they can launch missiles from stand off distances out of range even at low altitudes. If they using gravity bombs they have less flexibility. Their airfields are very close to Gaza.
A no fly zone should be put in place over the occupied territories.
“The unusual air-defense fire triggered a false rocket alarm in several Israeli settlements near Gaza.”
Well, I would have to say that this test by Palestinians was a success. I wonder if Iron Sieve tried to take out any of the bullets? You’re going to burn through your entire SAM stockpile pretty quickly if a round from an anti-aircraft cannon sets the thing off.
Indeed, very interesting thing and great concern for Iron Dome’s most vocal whitewashing scumbags. Iron Dome was proven ineffective back in Protective Edge.
Iron Dome doesn’t react to ammunition fire. Most likely reacted to rockets launched from there.
iron dome will soon be the iron doom, kaboooom and the squatters will be on their way to greener pastures elsewhere, diaspora 2.0 is about to start.
oki
sooner or later the heavy machine gun response will down an israeli jet. just stay tuned and fire away whenever the squatters arrive to kill more women and children and spread more destruction and when the pilot parachutes away get him on to a rope before the squatter’s rescue team arrive.
why are Palestinian fighters described as “Gunmen” in the headline
Because the authors on SF are at the core not native english speakers, you can see from the translation the russian origin often. So dont take this too hard, language barrier. I dont think they wanted to judge morally with using that word.
And the gun was Glock?