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Paul Craig Roberts: “Putin’s Peace Efforts Are Coming To Naught”

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Written by Paul Craig Roberts; Originally appeared on paulcraigroberts.org

The Trump regime has sabotaged Putin’s peace efforts in Syria, Iran, Ukraine, and North Korea.

In the interest of peace Putin has avoided responding to US and Israeli provocations in Syria. Putin went so far as to invite the war criminal and genocidal maniac Netanyahu to Russia for the celebration of Russia’s victory over Germany in World War II. Netanyahu accepted, but showed Putin who is boss by ordering illegal Israeli military attacks on Syrian army positions just prior to his departure for Russia. Washington rewarded Putin’s peace efforts by occupying with US and French troops the part of Syria still held by Washington’s mercenaries sent to overthrow Assad and by re-supplying the Muslim extremists Washington is using against Assad’s secular government. With US and French troops present, Putin has halted the offensive to clear all of Syria of the foreign invaders. If Americans or French are killed, Putin knows that the demonization of Russia will reach a new high pitch and Washington will use it to counteract Europe’s dissatisfaction with Washington. The box into which Putin has been put by the Russian government’s misjudgement of US and Israeli intentions allows continuing US-led attacks on Syrian military positions. See: https://www.rt.com/news/427601-us-coalition-strike-syria/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=push_notifications&utm_campaign=push_notifications

Previously Putin blocked the planned US invasion of Syria by arranging for all of Syria’s chemical weapons to be turned over to the West for destruction. The official chemical weapons inspection agency certified that Syria is devoid of chemical weapons. Putin’s reward is that US government officials, the entirety of the US media, and Washington’s British and French vassals have consistently blamed false flag chemical attacks, and in the case of Douma a fake news chemical attack that has been certified not to have taken place, on Assad.

The Trump regime has also sabotaged Putin’s peace effort in Iran. Putin brought the fake “Iranian nuke” crisis orchestrated by Washington and its presstitute media to an end by working out a multi-nation agreement that Iran would not produce weapons grade nuclear material or enrich uranium beyond the low level used for nuclear energy. Official agencies certify that Iran has kept the agreement, but despite the established facts, Washington and its presstitute media continue to allege that Iran has a nuclear weapons program. Trump at the insistence of Netanyahu has pulled the US out of the multi-nation agreement signed by Iran, the US, Russia, China, UK, France, and Germany. Trump is reimposing even harsher sanctions against Iran that heavily impact and harm European businesses. The rest of the signatories to the Iran agreement say that they intend to continue with the agreement, and Trump has threated UK, France, and Germany with sanctions if they stick with the agreement that they signed.

China and Russia worked to reconcile North and South Korea and secured North Korea’s agreement to stop nuclear weapons tests. Peace between the Koreas was taking shape, but Trump has sabotaged this peace effort as well.

The presstitute media, a.k.a., Washington’s Propaganda Ministry, has misrepresented the destruction of peace agreements as necessary actions to protect Americans and the world from rogue states, but Israel is the only other government that agrees with Washington.

Now that Washington and Israel have sabotaged Putin’s diplomacy, Putin’s hope is that the result will isolate Washington from Washington’s European and British vassal states rather than isolate Russia, Syria, Iran, and North Korea from the rest of the world. There is much evidence that European leaders have had their fill of being treated as Washington’s slaves. Possibly they will throw off Washington’s control. On the other hand, except for France under DeGaulle, no European country has had an independent foreign or economic policy in 75 years. Moreover, European leaders are accustomed to relying on Washington providing their comfortable retirements, like Tony Blair’s $50 million, and European business interests would be harmed if Trump cuts them off from US markets. How real an European revolt is remains to be seen.

There are great risks to Russia of relying on Europe’s revolt as Washington uses the time to regain what was lost in Syria to Putin’s initiative. In effect, Russia might be throwing away the victory in Syria. While the Russian government waits to see if the Anglo-Zionist Empire comes apart, Washington is organizing the jihadists Washington used against Gaddafi and Assad to prepare an offensive against Russia and China through former Soviet central Asian republics such as Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. Here is a report by Andrey Afanasyev: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49471.htm

I have checked out this story with Russian sources. What I learned is that Washington’s plan to use its jihadists to begin destabilizing Russia and China surfaced in Russia in the 7th Moscow International Conference on Security, which I believe was in April. Currently, Sergei Shoigu, the Russian Minister of Defence, is in Uzbekistan evaluating the situation with military and political leaders there.

The Russian government, the state TV channels, and establishment press are sitting on the information. Apparently, the Russian government doesn’t want this information out as it could undermine public support for the peace agenda that the government favors. However, reports have been published in Tsargrad, NewsFront, and Fergana.

Israel’s interest in the Middle East is expansion which is inconsistent with peace. Israel needs conflict and the destabilization of Syria and Iran, Hezbollah’s suppliers, so that Israel can seize southern Lebanon. The American neoconservatives who are firmly entrenched in the Trump regime are de facto Israeli agents. Moreover, they are committed to American hegemony, which requires the overthrow of independent governments.

Putin is betting that Washington’s pursuit of hegemony in the Middle East will cost Washington hegemony in Europe. If Putin does not win this bet, he had better be prepared for the war that Washington and Israel are aiming directly at Russia.

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1691

I will not recommend this article. PCR does not learn. He, like his government is beyond help. So, blaming Putin for not having a world war 3 is the new hit? I guess Putin is used to being blamed for the Sun rising from the East and everything else so what’s new?

Tudor Miron

Well said.

1691

Thank you.

Dr. Pro Liv

Majority here has their own hidden reasons to have grudge or even hate against Russia. I just hope that Russia will withdraw her help and watch those winning bitches how their resistance against “Jihad for Jews” and US-NATO crumbles…

John Whitehot

“PCR does not learn”

I’d say that in fact he does unlearn – if i didn’t know better.

Dr. Pro Liv

Paul Craig Roberts is anti-Russian AmeriCunt like many who are coming here. And many NATO-ist agents, many NAZIS, Jew haters (who want Russia to kill Jews) and what not are more then happy to join ANTI-RUSSIAN orgies.

I just hope that US and Israel criminals will attack Iran soon so that all these bitches start to squeak for Russian help again.

Freespirit

Hi Doc:

I don’t accept that Paul is Anti -Russian nor does he say that he is. Paul simply sees ,as I do what Putin is NOT doing correctly & DOING incorrectly

Of course if you think Putin is PERFECT, then I guess you can say we are “anti-Russian” if that belief makes you feel better.

In my mind NO LEADER is above criticism or scrutiny

He supports our REAL enemy, Israel. possibly from fear or ignorance,but either way , he is putting Russia and the world in danger IF he doesn’t soon enough, “see the light”

You do know that he supported Jerusalem for Israel, as only one serious example, do you not? Of course, IF you also support,Israel, then YOU. also are supporting WAR

THAT will eventually result in WAR-period!

Dr. Pro Liv

I resent even presumptuous name. “Freespirit” You are either soy boy or woman. Somebody very feminized. — Sorry but why would I care if you “accept” or not ?! And why you or him can’t be labeled “anti-Russian” for simply peddling anti-Russian narrative often?!! Some people do it for the money some for convictions some for stupidity etc…the reasons for doing anti-Russian speeches doesn’t necessarily take person to be truly “anti-Russian” ! I DO NOT CARE if he is really anti-Russian or he is doing that for some other reason All I know that he is doing articles like this OFTEN ! So he is enough ANTI-RUSSIAN for me by his activity ! I do not care about his motives or convictions, he does NOT interest me as person and you also!

Putin is probably “perfect” if compared with you and P.C.R. Apart from that he is just regular person and great leader for Russia. One of the best in the history of Russia. Because with him Russia only goes from strength to strength even in troubled times…. Maybe nothing of that success is thanks to him ?! But nobody can at least deny him a talent, of not making things worse if he can not do them better….

NO LEADER deserves your scrutiny or criticism I doubt that they are that bad…

Your Israel BOLLOCKS stories and accusations I will not even comment I have more intelligent things to do in life….

Turbofan

“I resent even presumptuous name. “Freespirit” You are either soy boy or woman. Somebody very feminized.”

Thats ironic..for someone masquerading as a doctor.

Dr. Pro Liv

I am “Doctor” if you are “Turbofan”. Are you “Turbofan”?!

Turbofan

yes I am a fan of turbo..and not masquerading as a doctor

Dr. Pro Liv

I am fan of “doctors” and you are also blocked

Freespirit

Cowardly and thedesperate move of a Tyrant

I guess I am “blocked” now also

Freespirit

Isn’t that interesting . Other than your infantile attempt at “Ad Hominems”, I don’t care if you care or don’t

Does that make us even?

frankly

Look Flea spit, Putin will stay on his track even if he is reviled by the whole world. He will make mistakes, that you will call Empire triumphs, and his victories, you will never breath a word of.

But for the sake of advancing the conversation, lets say all your ASSumptions are correct. To whom is the world to turn to, to lead us from this precipice? Name our savior or shut the fuck up.

Turbofan

How many fake accounts do you have Doc?

frankly

Yeah right numb nuts, I would be honored that you think I am Dr. Pro Liv except for the fact that you are so fucking stupid, getting complements from stupid people is somehow icky.

Turbofan

How is the CIA troll factory today at Langley?

frankly

Gosh this is starting to feel weird. A CIA troll. I should be complemented for venting my spleen to be construed as paid employment. Just a guy that thinks he knows right from wrong. An honorably discharged Viet Nam era Vet who would rather be in Syria helping fix the damage, than here listening to spoiled rotten wannabees. So Adios turdo duh. I ain’t wasting any more time with anyone who thinks I am CIA, that’s just beyond dim.

Freespirit

No one who participates in American War can be Honorable

All American wars have been WARS of Invasion and Murder, with one EXCEPTION- 1776 and the War for Independence

It is the SAME Murderers who give you an “Honorable Discharge” and I assume you cannot see the EVIL IRONY in that process because you lack TRUE Courage and Integrity

frankly

Asked you a simple question flea spit. The fact that you can not answer that question nullifies my interest in anything further you might dribble. If all you can do is destroy than where did you learn that? Empire talk. Reading from a nonsense script.

As for your presumptuous miss, if you can’t stand the heat you better stay out of the kitchen.

Freespirit

“Flea spit” :-)

I like that one and sorry to disappoint you further BUT I don’t “revile” Putin. I think he is one of the Best leaders on this planet BUT I am not a TROLL like you are, who supports what he is doing by relenting to Israel and Washington, as you do.

He is wrong in his approach with Israel and U.S. and will cause WAR or SURRENDER and possibly a second Bolshevik War on his motherland.

He is “kissing their asses”, figuratively-speaking and will pay a terrible price for it

You just hate the fact there are intelligent, informed, discerning people like I and Turbo, and others who see that and are informing people, here, in spite of criminals like you trying to mislead.

You cannot stop me TROLL as I also comment on about 15 other sites and via my email list of thousands of “movers and shakers” on Alt Sites and have been doing it here via DISQUS since 2008-2009

Gotcha, so SHOO, fly and stay with pestering children.

They are more your speed.

YOU are not in my league

frankly

The projection paradigm on full display. You still didn’t answer the simple fucking question. Is that an ISIS issued email list of movers and shakers? with that in hand why bother with a high school drop out like me. Surely your fans are stomping their feet and chanting, flea spit, flea spit, flea spit

Freespirit

I answer questions MY WAY, not yours but thanks for you input

frankly

So can’t answer the question as that would reveal your true agenda, so you are taking option B, STFU. Probably a wise choice, the more of yourself you reveal, the less you endear yourself to the audience. A true unique attribute of trolls. Sorry no caps, you aren’t very good flea spit.

Freespirit

You’re welcome

frankly

Truth is I have more up votes than comments. You with your ISIS list of movers and shakers and years of writing experience, don’t.

Can’t help but notice most of your comments don’t have any logical point. This latest is a good example. What truth does the statistic tell? Also You’re welcome is a response to being thanked. Being told repeatedly to STFU is no thank you.

Gosh flea spit all your overwhelming genius and popularity and you spend so much time with me, it makes me feel like I need deloused.

JustPassingThrough

“Paul simply sees ,as I do what Putin is NOT doing correctly & DOING incorrectly”

must be nice for the 2 of you to be privy to everything that is going on and to be able to make this knowledgeable assessments. lol

Freespirit

You’re welcome

frankly

Stupidly not realizing his JPT sarcasm, while calling self genius, flea spit slobbers on!

Freespirit

To repeat, you’re welcome

Turbofan

The idea that PCR is anti Russian is as true as the story of Jack and the Beanstalk. I may disagree with some of what he says but he is not the only one who has brought up the point that basically Russia hasent grasp or is in denial as to how evil the Anglozionist American Empire is

Dr. Pro Liv

Oh I have noticed of course that many assholes like P.C.R. are every day here ! How could I not notice that?!! And how you and (“presumably” him) know that Russia is ignorant to the bliss of how “Anglozionist American Empire” is “evil” ?!?

It is PUTIN personally that has brought Russia from completely destroyed country to the position of world power that challenges US and NATO now…. And post Soviet Russia was destroyed exactly by that “Anglozionist American Empire” ! But all of you PRESUMPTUOUS geniuses didn’t notice that detail huh?! And now you want to lecture one of the best and most competent leader that has surfaced in decades about the basics of the politics?! Get life loser!

Turbofan

Someones judgement can easily be clouded by anger..and you seem to be a very aggressive and angry individual.A trait found in a abundance in ” not so successful ” people. So much for me being a loser. Anyway no one is denying the fact that Mr Putin is a great president and easily the best leader in the world today but Putin is not a dictator and Russia is a democracy. Policies are not dictated by one man but by a collective.. There are powerful people in Russia that do not completely share Putin’s vision. Are you seriously trying to tell me that the influence of these powerful people are not reflected in Russian foreign policy? So there are no Zionist and Atlanticist in the Russian government…Anyway let go of that anger and hopefully your grey matter might start doing its job….that is assuming you have any..

Dr. Pro Liv

“Someones judgement can easily be clouded by anger” but only when that anger is ill placed or unjustified. Meeting arrogant people like you gets me angry i must admit. I’m only human.

” but Putin is not a dictator and Russia is a democracy” These words show that you are ignorant as well. Russia being huge is very centralized country and presidential system is the essential part of that. President is “boss” to everybody including prime minister. “Russia is democracy” but in that “democracy” being President…. Putin is boss to everybody.

“. Are you seriously trying to tell me that the influence of these powerful people are not reflected in Russian foreign policy?” We were NOT talking about this subject at all. And you are PUTTING YOUR WORDS in my mouth. Than you are attacking those…. your own words, pretending that I have said them?!? Now either you are some perfidy guy or you are not very intelligent. Either way I have no interest in continuing this conversation with you.

Turbofan

“President is “boss” to everybody including prime minister. “Russia is democracy” but in that “democracy” being President…. Putin is boss to everybody.”

The above demonstrates the depth of you ignorance. Every country has lobby groups and deep states. Russia is no exception. And as i said get control of your anger. Its harming you limited ability to have a civilized conversation.

Dr. Pro Liv

“The above demonstrates the depth of you ignorance. Every country has lobby groups and deep states. ”

You are doing it AGAIN.

Putting YOUR WORDS into my mouth and claiming that we have talked about “lobby groups” which we did NOT !

And you use that to insult me also.

Since this is the 2nd time (and you have talked to me only 2 times) that you are doing this I call you a LIAR and CROOK !

I worn you that you will blocked !

frankly

Another psycho rule, the charade of civility is sacrosanct. Our tax dollars finance the purposeful maiming of children but you insist on being polite.

Go fuck your self Turdo Duh. I sorwe did I hurt feewings? Go get yourself fixed, one of you is way too many.

Turbofan

ok fake doc

frankly

Man not even smart enough to know who you are addressing. Turdo duh

Turbofan

“addressing”??? when did you become important “Doc” ?

frankly

Listen to the psycho pontificate. Oh you are angry, any show of emotion is of course of symptom of humanness, whereas cold indifference, psychopathy.

God you must be a supervisor in your work place, assuming you have one. And yes you may be proud of it and it’s undeserved perks but I meant it as an insult.

Turbofan

Hahahaha.. this doc is so jovial..have you tried comedy?

S Melanson

Do not let Turbofan get to you especially when it gets personal. Keep posting what you believe and to me, what you say is closer to the truth then a great many of the posters on this forum and I appreciate that. Note that I gave something for Turbofan to chew on in my response to him above.

Dr. Pro Liv

Thank you. I was speaking only my deep convictions.

Turbofan

Note he has been the one insulting just about anyone who disagrees with him on this site for the past week or so..

S Melanson

He is passionate when he writes and I must say you have a few passionate posts yourself lol. Note that my response was based only on the comments on the PCR article. You say two weeks, does this mean this is new behaviour? If so, The change might be due to unfortunate events in his personal life that are being vented here. Perhaps a different tact in response to his posts like switching from baseball bat to a sparring glove :)

S Melanson

Regardless of whether or not the label fits PCR, multiple articles by PCR have consistently portrayed Putin as basically incompetent in international affairs. Have you listened to Putin speak on international affairs as well as his replies to questions from the foreign press. Well I have and without exception, Putin demonstrated a remarkable depth of knowledge and understanding across a wide range of foreign policy topics.

But wait, if I am to take PCR at his word, I must conclude that Putin pales in comparison to astute US politicians that can anticipate Russia’s every move while Russia stumbles along confused. Certainly with fine examples like, for example, Sarah Palin, we need only observe the Russian shoreline to prove our prowess in foreign affairs – if she had become Vice President and McCain fell fatally ill, she could have ended up president!!!

Satire aside, anyone that has listened to Putin speak on foreign affairs would most certainly question PCR assertions about Putin.

Lastly, I would think that PCR is well acquainted with Putin’s statements on international affairs so he should know better and it really raises questions about his objectivity in his writing.

Raptar Driver

Not true, he portrays Putin as not fully understanding the American mentality and therefore motives. Since there is a clear cultural, spiritual and mental gap between the Slavic world and the Anglo it stands to reason.

S Melanson

Well no one can really have a full understanding so it is a matter of degree. Reading several of PCR articles the tone and framing of arguments are very very similar and leave the reader with a dim view of Putin as a statesmen. In repeating the same line of arguments on Putin’s poor record in diplomacy in articles published in quick succession, PCR is following a familiar playbook -you must tell one big lie and then you must repeat it over and over again…

It is important to appreciate the cumulative effect of PCRs article series as a whole, being much more impactful than would be the case as stand-alone articles. The power of repetition where fiction can become ‘fact’.

Now you say it is not true that PCR portrays Putin as incompetent. Let’s start with a review of the titles of his articles published so far in the month of May:

Putin’s peace efforts coming to naught. Is Russia Washington’s next vassal? Does Russia know what’s up?

These titles suggest that it must be quite the gap between Slavic and Anglo mentalities. And to make things crystal clear, I refer to a PCR statement in his article ‘Does Russia know what’s up?’:

“Russia has the winning hand, but does not know how to play it.”

If you cannot win with a winning hand, you are incompetent.

I want to close off with a final observation. The gap between Eastern and Western mentalities was and continues to be real. The KGB and its agents were tasked with bridging that gap. And if somehow KGB training and experience did not do the trick for Putin, I am sure his witnessing after the fall of the Soviet Union Russia being on the receiving end of US betrayal, such as NATO expansion right up to Russia’s borders, would close any nagging gaps.

Raptar Driver

I have been following PCR and his views for many years and can say definitively that he is not at all anti-Russian or anti-Putin and perhaps leaning slightly to being pro but he is an old school American conservative and someone who is shunned by the establishment here in the U.S.

frankly

Liked his stuff in the past, think he was given the JFK option recently Take the money and join the MSM bleating, or get trampled. The tone and content is way off from the past.

Raptar Driver

His take on Russia and Putin is different but he has a good analytical mind and what he is seeing lately is troubling, frankly (no pun intended) I saw this in 2014 so to me he is behind the curve a little.

Dr. Pro Liv

Listen whatever he does and whatever his motives are. These articles lately are ALWAYS one way or another TALKING BAD about Russia. So basically he is not different from U.S. MSM either way you turn that…. If his motives are more honorable and he doesn’t have hidden agenda like Western MSM that still doesn’t change negative content.

The problem is that exactly the same negative content is all over internet and boils down on few basic claims. 1)Putin-Russia are in bed with Israel,US 2) Russians are cowards, wimps, bark no bite 3)Russians MUST defend with everything they have Assad every Arab on the planet Iran,Shia and list is endless in the names of those whom Russians must defend for free not sparing lives of their soldiers. 4)Russians are guilty for everything !

So he basically talks the same or similar bollocks. And I couldn’t care less about his “conservatism” because U.S. looks every day more like Banana Republic Empire. So why not trying to clean the mess at home and LEAVE RUSSIANS ALONE ?!

Freespirit

From you: “So he basically talks the same or similar bollocks.”

Americans do not use the word “Bollacks” so it means you are lying about something and I suspect it may be that, you are NOT American and thus NOT likely to have been in the Marines

How do I know about “Bollacks”

I’m a 78 year young IRISH (Republican) REBLE,by the way, hated by the British and American Governments and BRANDED as Terrorists, although we fought for our REPUBLIC against the same enemy as Americans did,for their Republic……………… Amazing how stupid Americans have become

………..AND We, also, WON.

Freespirit

You are correct Paul.

To REPEAT, what I have been saying for a few years now, and been VILIFIED for, ( I suspect by TROLLS and Cowards) it will come down to SURRENDER or FIGHT

This world is NOT dealing with RATIONAL people

We ARE dealing with Religious Zealots LED BY Zionist and Freemason Psychopaths, whose ONLY Goal is to RULE this planet and what makes them most dangerous is that they BELIEVE a “God”, not only gives them Permission, but tells them they are a “Chosen People”

Those types of subhumans only RESPECT and RESPOND to FORCE- Period!!!

Laughable, if those Psychopaths and Zealots didn’t actually believe that Biblical Mythology NONSENSE

Children, BEFORE brainwashing, are much smarter

potcracker2588

close one……zionist and freemasonhhod…….. one cannot be a ZIONIST without being a jew and believing in the Talmud ” all non jews are Gojim and all non-jewish women are whores”…the word zionist/zionism was invented by the jews as a scapegoat for the Gojim(us); their plan was known for over 1000 years..nowadays people KNOW that the systems are all rigged, 100% everything…we humans start to think about this problem..books have been written to the thousands about it…THEY CANNOT HIDE WHAT IS GOING ON…for example 99% of americans know that jews control banking, the fed chairmans etc… but thats exactly where the scapegoat comes in….no no it aint the jews, its the zionists…they are bad but the jews are ok, the jews are the hunted people, which deserve compassion because of the “holocaust”….Its the TALMUD….period..are there jews somewhere on our planet that dont believe in the Talmud, that dont have circumcision???NO…later more on that.

“masonry is based on judaism.Eliminate the teachings of judaism of masonry, what is left?nothing.The kabbala is the very bases of masonry.” Abert Pike Grandmaster

The Jews want a one world government, with Jerusalem as its capital under jewish satanic leadership.

Martin Luther “They are our public enemies and incessantly blaspheme our lord jesus christ, they call our blessed virgin mary a harlot, and her holy son a bastard and to us they give the epithet of changelings and abortions.Their synagogues should be set on fire and whatever does not burn up should be covered or spread over with dirt.Their homes likewise be broken down and destroyed.They should be deprived of the Talmud in which such idolatry,lies,cursing, blasphemy and murder are taught” 1531

I know that ye are abrahams seed, but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.I speak that which I have seen with my father, and ye do that which ye have seen in your father.They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father.Jesus saith unto them,if ye were abrahams children, ye would do the works of abraham. John 8,37-39

Ye are of your father the DEVIL, and the lusts of your father ye will do.He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not to the truth, because there is no truth in him.When he speaketh a lie,he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8-44

JEW?? But he is a jew, which is one inwardly and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter, whose praise is not of men, but of god. Romans2:28-29

For we are the circumcision, which worship god in the spirit, and rejoice in jesus christ, and have no confidence in the flesh. Phillippians 3:3

Behold I will make them of the synagogue of SATAN, which say they are jews and are not, but do lie.behold I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have LOVED thee. Revelation 3:9 Who is a liar, but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?he is Antichrist that denieth the Father and the son. John 2:22

Now a little surprise to most people..a litlle hidden secret……..the sign that millions of people were doing on billions of occasions…being mr. spocks sign of “peace and long life” with the 2 outer fingers spread from one another in startrek…is the shape of the letter in hebrew alphabet sh shalom shaddai shekhinah…..

Freespirit

Well stated

frankly

So you trolls are on a first name basis, who is Paul? Never mind, I am sure you are closer than I wanna know about.

We get it, demonize the Empire and Russia. First and foremost the only solution is violence. How MIC of you. I prefer the bankruptcy option. Petro dollar tanks, paychecks bounce, no one can pay for their food never mind ammo.

All the psychos committing atrocities get laid off, go home and instead of a greeting they get lynched, by their mom and her friends. Or as seems all the rage these days, kill themselves.

Mohale

it will seem PCR is the one earnestly seeking war, and is diaappointed when none rightly does not come.

Freespirit

War is coming whether you want it or not

The ONLY choice you will have is to FIGHT or SURRENDER and WHO to FIGHT or Surrender to, because you and I don’t make the decisions about WAR or PEACE.

The SCUM who RULE us do

Mohale

they are cowards and will only attack those who cannot fight back. new Russian weapon systems have ensured that. anyway the collapse of the antlaticists will be due to internal contraditions. espescially as they lose the war of lying to their citizens.

zman

This seems to be a trend. For the last several months there seems to be a concerted effort to minimize Russian/Putin efforts and to demean their sacrifices/accomplishments. It’s all done in a left-handed sort of way…’he is naive, he fell for the trap, his efforts are for naught, he is selling Syria down the river, he refuses to stop the Israelis, he’s in bed with the Israelis, he’s part of the plan’, ad infinitum. PCR is not a disinterested party either. I have never bought his ‘come to Jesus’ moment BS either. As far as I can tell, Putin must be going in the right direction to warrant all this negativity. For someone who is supposedly so inept, he sure has given the western/Israeli scum fits. Yes, it is a miracle that Syria still lives with the likes of Putin mismanaging everything. The only thing this article proved to me is that PCR is a disinfo and propaganda agent, as are some of those even here that preach the same non-sense. That Putin is trying to accomplish peace and to de-fang the west in ways that defy western sensibilities is to his credit and to the Zionists dismay.

Freespirit

Russia has a very FLAWED analysis of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA and from MY point of view, by extension, of ISRAEL: https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/05/04/institutionalized-insanity-in-america-why-wont-russia-get-it/ I suspect there is also a “hint of Fear” by Russia, and one should, for ones SURVIVAL, fear PSYCHOPATHS, rampant among ZIONISTS and Freemasons, Jewish or otherwise ! let’s not forget, here is the REAL Cowardly Psychopathic ISRAELIS in action and narrated by Ken O’Keefe: https://youtu.be/eVD70yRRxyU and let’s ALSO not forget Russia Recognized part of Jerusalem for “Israel” : https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-historic-first-russia-recognizes-west-jerusalem-as-israels-capital/

zman

We’re all aware of your POV. I could admit that Putin has made mistakes, everyone at one time or another has. But to agree with you that Putin has misjudged the west/Israel? No. I believe that he is many steps ahead and knows where the west will likely put their foot down next. Because people like you preach war, war, war does not mean that it is either inevitable or necessary. Yes, it might come to that, but Putin is doing what he can, with the resources and the time he has, to deal with it on his terms and time table, not theirs. It seems to outwit someone without confrontation is not acceptable to some. Those same people seem to be unable to see the pattern Putin is producing, which is tangible results of the positive nature…using the ineptitude of the adversary against themselves.

Freespirit

Time will tell

Turbofan

Are you asleep?

You can call me Al

I may be wrong, but I don’t think he was saying it, in that way.

Freespirit

Right on, “Al”

I’m talking about Putin’s motive

You can call me Al

Sorry, gottcha ya now.

Gabriel Hollows

Delaying the inevitable like a true coward.

Freespirit

Absolutely correct

S Melanson

I think zman’s take on the author (PCR) and the opinions he expresses in the article is spot on. I mean come on, are we really expected to believe Putin is clueless as to US and Israeli intentions… really. Putin is former KGB – he damn well knows what’s going on.

You can call me Al

Maybe he is old fashioned like me and still believes in honour, giving your word as your bond and gentlemen’s handshakes. Even in the old days of KGB vs CIA / MI6 there was respect and honour between the sides.

S Melanson

Yes, I think so and maybe in the future, just maybe, there will be once again honour and mutual respect in this world. But I am sure Putin knows that such notions are of a time past and he has few illusions about US intentions – after all, he saw and experienced first hand what happened after the fall of the Soviet Union. US betrayal of a gentlemen’s agreement on NATO not expanding into former Warsaw Pact nations was alone lesson enough.

Freespirit

Nope and I never implied “clueless”

S Melanson

Yes, let me correct my error. What I should have said is:

Russia has a very flawed [but not clueless] analysis of the United States of America … and by extension, Israel.

Much better.

Dr. Pro Liv

Agree 100%

Muslim Shia,Sunni, Jew, Jihad, NATO,US,UK, Iranian,Hezbollah,Assad interest converge in SPITTING on Putin and Russia just for different reasons.

The main objective is MINIMIZE what Russians have done and push them DEEPER directly and indirectly in Syria war! Than start full blown war in Ukraine and drain Russian strength through PROXY WARS !

Turbofan

You are doing the exact same thing MSM is doing. Talk any good of Russia in western media and you are labelled a Kremlin agent, Russian bot etc. Say here that Russia should act decisively in stopping Israel from murdering Syrian civilians and the fake doctor labels you anti Russian

Promitheas Apollonious

The question is not what west is doing and their minions is very well understood and known, even to the ones who pretend they are asleep, after the 90s.

The question is why Russia and Putin is kissing their ass and bending over to them. Russians started something and all they manage up to this point is give the americans and zionists a 1/3 of Syria. The other joke is Russians trying to prove that Uk and colonies are in the wrong and they are in the right. For what? It is obvious what is happening and none care any more for justice as justice is based on common sense and not the human laws that the terrorist of NWO have established as the law.

Half done jobs are much worst than nothing at all. And is what the Russians for the moment are doing, going where the wind blows. That is not very flattering, considering what at times they have claimed to stand for.

1691

Rome wasn’t build in a day. Work in progress

Dr. Pro Liv

Rome was burnt in one day though.

What ONE idiot can do in day 1000 intelligent can’t repair it in 1000 years

Promitheas Apollonious

yes this is what I am thinking also, but this work must have an expiration date also and not take a life time.

1691

I know. So far SAA and coalition have achieved a lot. It is tough on them as is. The neighbors and their army of mercs are losing with grace: they know they are losing but not giving up without a fight. Their masters must be sorted out, one by one. Then it will stop; otherwise it is a never-ending- story.

Turbofan

Their masters? you mean Netanyahou and company right?

1691

No, bibi is also a servant.

1691

No, bibi is also a servant.

Mikronos

Russia should increase its support for un-American activities. There IS a Cold War on again – despite claims stating other intentions. Russia needs to defend itself and develop its allies.

But no matter how ‘hopeless’ the US claims Russia and Putin , (or Iran or China or Venezuela) to be The USA is just as malevolent and even more incompetent that it has ever been.

Serious

How do you make peace with someone who wants war ? You have to make peace by force. And it means that Putin should give full protection of Syrians and must expose american conspiracies. Putin is doing the exact opposite.

So, now, more and more people are starting to understand that either Putin is a zionist, either he had a very very startegy. Can’t hide it anymore.

Dr. Pro Liv

I would “make peace” by shooting people who use “XD” in their comments. That would definitely make world batter place. Less of those infantile pubescent retards and whole world would thrive suddenly !

Serious

Stupid comment as usual the zio.

Serious

DOn’t give up speaking about “XD” because you have nothing else to say. XD.

frankly

“that either Putin is a zionist, either he had a very very startegy. Can’t hide it anymore.”

So you trolls just up vote willy nilly? Or is there a criterion like the more completely unintelligible the post, the more up votes you give your fellow trolls.

Funny how ridiculous core belief inspires piss poor product. Can’t hide it anymore, you should change your name to,(beer is us). At least it rhythms and all the words can be found in a dictionary.

Serious

Blah blah blah blah.

frankly

Ooooh ouch, cut me to the quick. Better get yourself a drink wiz bang, your inspiration is wanting. Maybe Paul can help.

JustPassingThrough

“Blah blah blah blah.” now that’s much better. your intelligence in full display. not even a good troll. what do you do well besides verbally fart?

JustPassingThrough

“You have to make peace by force.” force=war?

“So, now, more and more people are starting to understand that either Putin is a zionist, either he had a very very startegy …..or?

with all due respect, you don’t seem to be very coherent. definitely not to be taken seriously. lol

Hrky75

Compared to WW2 US and Russia changed roles. Due to current demographics US has excess of poor, under-educated, black/brown military age males to waste in a hi-intensity military engagement with near peer adversaries. China as a result of one-child policy and Russia as a consequence of 1990s disaster – don-t. Russian demographic black hole was especially well researched by the Pentagon. That`s why both countries try to react asymmetrically to US aggressive policy. That and the fact that times works against US Empire. Fighting US with the Petrodollar system in place is suicide – US can outspend literally the whole rest of the world combined and win. A draw would mean Russia and China ravaged by war and economically collapsed with US receiving few annoying scratches at best. But without the Petrodollar – with money printing machine off for good, US loses badly without a shot being fired. Putin is not Russian equivalent of Dalai lama – not by a long shot. He just picked a winning strategy – one that includes not being provoked into a shooting war with the US, short of US actually firing at his people first – and he sticks to it to the letter …

Serious

Freespirit has very well sum up the situation. “Russia has a very FLAWED analysis of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA”. That’s exactly that. Putin admires USA. That’s a big problem.

Putin even say that : 1 – “Russia and USA have fundamental interests that bring them together”. What are these “fundamental interests” ??? 2 – “Russia and USA always ally against common threats”. Correct translation is that USA always fooled Russia to fight an ennemy that USA created.

Feudalism Victory

Their fundamental interest as two continental powers is to exercise hegemony over the world together. The rest of the(thinking) world knows this and does everything to tear them apart especially island powers(like the uk)

Serious

That is not a fundamental interest. USA will never ally with Russia whatsoever. USA will “kill” Russia in due time. The problem is that Russia thinks that USA wants to share with them. XD. That’s the fundamental problem of Putin.

Feudalism Victory

Lincoln and the czar did. Modern american elites are hubristic fools though so they dont understand the art of statecraft. Maybe extend the chinese obor project thru the bering straights and watch the hate propoganda flow.

Serious

Never. Russia monarchs sold Alaska to USA. Russia always looses against USA.

USA always screw Russia. That’s a fact.

Maybe they might change their losing strategy. XD.

Feudalism Victory

A crippling american military defeat is the catalyst for change.

frankly

Isn’t the US preparing to sign a contract to send the next US mission to the ISS on board a Russian rocket ship? 2 Americans in a space capsule unallied, then serving in the ISS for months together as enemies.

Still fishing for your new handle. Seriously flawed, too long. excess of puss, too graphic. Groping us, hmm potential. Get some facts and quit groping us.

Serious

Of course. Russia is supporting the cost of sending scientists to the ISS while the west make sanctions against Russia. The west knows that Russia has no balls to stop sending scientists to ISS. If it was the opposite, USA would have stopped sending russian scientists to ISS.

QED.

frankly

Well Russia cancelled the contract to supply US the rocket engines for the Atlas. No balls? Also it is not the opposite and the fact that the US can not get to the space station on its own is a fun fact.

You surmise to know what would be, if things were different than they are, and present that as a sort of validation of your innate wisdom? Get under the bus, serious. Arrogant pip squeak.

Serious

USA doesn’t want to support the cost. It costs too much and private corporations (american way of thinking) only care about money.

frankly

What are they going to spend to get to the ISS, bitcoin. It’s hard to have a conversation with someone that can not present a complete thought. We’re done.

S Melanson

That is the plan I agree. However, while you are correct that power is not shared, it is shared if necessity dictates, as was the case with Britain abandoning empire after the Suez crisis of 1956. That saw a power sharing arrangement between US (75%) and Britain (25%). In this case, power sharing was not equal, such that Britain, as junior partner, subordinated its foreign policy to the US. This is why Britain has followed so closely US foreign escapades – but rewarded like a good dog with a share,of the spoils.

Russia is challenging US hegemony to push US into acceptance of multi-polar world as opposed to US led unipolar world. Putin has stated this explicitly in fact. I recommend to anyone interested in Putin’s thinking listen to his policy speeches which are available online.

Serious

It seems like nobody can stop Americans unless Americans.

frankly

Habitually don’t comment without reading article, breaking that rule for this. Like it’s Putin’s responsibility to reverse centuries of Empire? Putin is not God. We all have a hand in seeing to a better world. Putin’s got his hands full as it is. His central role may turn out to be as a power that all entities can trust to bargain with integrity.

The one thing we can trust about F.uk.us and co-conspirators is a kind of flagrant disregard for any thing that brings good into the world. The recent threats toward NK are classic. The message is plain. We can’t survive without war. Fight us please!

OK be that way we will start a fight anyway!

Douglas Houck

The author misunderstands the role of Russia and Putin. It is not to save the world by bringing down the west or whatever PCR wants, but to improve the conditions of Russians (health, safety, economics, etc.). Putin has and is doing that. He is not naive but is working with the cards is has been dealt. Russia will never be able to single handily overcome the US if for no other reason, it’s economy is not even close to the US. Russia has not been able to totally isolate itself from the west, nor does it want to. Russia’s long term interests are not served by becoming the world’s policeman. All of this talk about Putin being taken, or a stooge of the west, or weak, etc. is nonesense.

Look at what is happening at this years St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF).

1) “Novatek and Total signed an agreement in respect of participation of the French company in Arctic LNG 2 project for 10 – 15% of a $25.5 bln project.” (Russia still needs technical and finacial help in building LNG stations.)

2) “Germany’s Wintershall views projects in Russia as strategically important and will not reconsider its presence because of toughening anti-Russia sanctions, Chief Executive Officer of the company Mario Mehren told TASS on Thursday…” “We are producing oil and gas in Russia because we think this is one of the best places, this is where the oil and gas is,” the top manager said. Wintershall already invested “billions of rubles” into development of Achimov blocks and the Yuzhno-Russkoe field, he added.”

3) “”Our businesses signed 50 agreements within the framework of this visit alone,” Macron says. Not a single French company has left the Russian market over the last decade, he said.”

4) “Attempts to halt implementation of the Nord Stream 2 project will continue but they will not prevent its development, Russia’s Permanent Representative to the EU Vladimir Chizhov said in an interview with TASS” “Wintershall will keep its share (10%) in financing the Nord Stream 2 project even after merger with DEA”.

Ma_Laoshi

That Putin systematically pursues peace is an interpretation so optimistic that it borders on wishful thinking. The wisdom and restraint needed for that would counsel a *proportional* response. Failing to respond is otherwise known as appeasement, and as PCR himself has argued many times it makes war more likely, not less. It seems most plausible the Kremlin is simply deeply divided on the issue. Washington may look like a clown train any day of the week, but in fact there *does* exist a “Washington consensus” on how to deal with the lesser races of the world, and it involves a lot of stick. MAGA hasn’t changed this reality one bit, just like with previous republican rebrandings.

In contrast, in Moscow there are people openly advocating outright surrender of their militarily powerful country to its enemies, and yet these people are taken seriously. While debate in general is healthy, this degree of confusion about Russia’s place in the world seems to have a paralyzing effect. Yes Russia is doing some good cleaning up a bunch of jihadists (while busing others around so they can fight later), but a credible “don’t even think about it” posture could have deterred any adventurism against its Syrian ally.

Turbofan

At least somebody gets it..Mark Sloboda has argued the exact same thing on his Facebook page..

JustPassingThrough

“The wisdom and restraint needed for that would counsel a *proportional* response.” >opinion. assumption that you know how the other person thinks

“Failing to respond is otherwise known as appeasement, and as PCR himself has argued many times it makes war more likely, not less.” >according to PCR who is a bit deranged in his thinking. examples of this opinion abound in his writings.

” It seems most plausible the Kremlin is simply deeply divided” >based on what?

“Washington may look like a clown train any day of the week, but in fact there *does* exist a “Washington consensus” on how to deal with the lesser races of the world” >really where have you been boy? D.T. pirouettes 180° every 24 hours on all issues now that’s consensus? how many people have moved through govt positions since january. now that’s consensus. today we go to war tomorrow maybe next week not. wash, rinse, repeat. now that’s consensus. lol

“deal with the lesser races of the world” >your exceptional arrogance is showing through. in fact the rest of the world is coming to terms with how to deal with knuckle draggers like yourself that spout this lesser races BS.

“In contrast, in Moscow there are people openly advocating outright surrender of their militarily powerful country to its enemies, and yet these people are taken seriously” >you advocate the ami approach? don’t listen to anyone. MSM über alles. you’ve been bought and paid for haven’t you?

>what do you mean by taken seriously? are they taken more seriously than the people marching in the u.s. against ami insanity? is it wrong to take the opposition seriously? what is your point?

very muddled incoherent post.

S Melanson

Yes, I think North Korea and the continuing summit drama is a goooood example of coherent strategy. That is using the new improved definition of coherent: if you 180 a second time you get back to where you came from.

JustPassingThrough

almost like going in circles? ?

S Melanson

I responded to you but accidentally responded to myself. Please read as I have some thoughts to share with you on PCR and Saker disinfo assault on Southfront readership.

S Melanson

This was meant to be a response to justpassingthrough.

Certainly is. I think I need to do some really deep study of Trump, North Korea and China (East Pacific theatre in general), same for European theatre and of course the great enigma of the Middle East. Not to long ago international affairs were reasonably understandable with a few people cutting through the BS and calling a spade a spade such as Noam Chomsky. Now, there are some unusual dynamics going on, although confusing, some such as yourself can still see through BS coming from pundits such as PCR and Saker.

I think, as a start, a rebuttal to PCR is needed and would Southfront publish it? PCR could be offered opportunity to respond and his response published alongside the rebuttal. I really think the readers of Southfront deserve a counterpoint to PCR and Saker that have been cranking out disinformation at a furious pace.

frankly

Another Putin fail eh? God like it’s a sin to work for peace so lets fight his effort and what a stupid goal in the first place. What a sick world. Here’s the plan, destroy everything, then there will be peace.

Peace is one of those words that has somehow become a silly, ridiculous thing, psycho-engineering at it’s finest. Don’t know why you do, but you hate something automatically, amazing modern propaganda. Bringing violence and destruction because peace is so ugly.

potcracker2588

The Jews want a one world government, with Jerusalem as its capital under jewish satanic leadership.

one cannot be a ZIONIST without being a jew and believing in the Talmud ” all non jews are Gojim and all non-jewish women are whores”…the word zionist/zionism was invented by the jews as a scapegoat for the Gojim(us); their plan was known for over 1000 years..nowadays people KNOW that the systems are all rigged, 100% everything…we humans start to think about this problem..books have been written to the thousands about it…THEY CANNOT HIDE WHAT IS GOING ON…for example 99% of americans know that jews control banking, the fed chairmans etc… but thats exactly where the scapegoat comes in….no no it aint the jews, its the zionists…they are bad but the jews are ok, the jews are the hunted people, which deserve compassion because of the “holocaust”….Its the TALMUD….period..are there jews somewhere on our planet that dont believe in the Talmud, that dont have circumcision???NO…later more on that.

“masonry is based on judaism.Eliminate the teachings of judaism of masonry, what is left?nothing.The kabbala is the very bases of masonry.” Abert Pike Grandmaster

Martin Luther “They are our public enemies and incessantly blaspheme our lord jesus christ, they call our blessed virgin mary a harlot, and her holy son a bastard and to us they give the epithet of changelings and abortions.Their synagogues should be set on fire and whatever does not burn up should be covered or spread over with dirt.Their homes likewise be broken down and destroyed.They should be deprived of the Talmud in which such idolatry,lies,cursing, blasphemy and murder are taught” 1531

Iknow that ye are abrahams seed, but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.I speak that which I have seen with my father, and ye do that which ye have seen in your father.They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father.Jesus saith unto them,if ye were abrahams children, ye would do the works of abraham. John 8,37-39

Ye are of your father the DEVIL, and the lusts of your father ye will do.He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not to the truth, because there is no truth in him.When he speaketh a lie,he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8-44

JEW??

But he is a jew, which is one inwardly and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter, whose praise is not of men, but of god. Romans2:28-29

For we are the circumcision, which worship god in the spirit, and rejoice in jesus christ, and have no confidence in the flesh. Phillippians 3:3

Behold I will make them of the synagogue of SATAN, which say they are jews and are not, but do lie.behold I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have LOVED thee. Revelation 3:9

Who is a liar, but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?he is Antichrist that denieth the Father and the son. John 2:22

Now a little surprise to most people..a litlle hidden secret……..the sign that millions of people were doing on billions of occasions…being mr. spocks sign of “peace and long life” with the 2 outer fingers spread from one another in startrek…is the shape of the letter in hebrew alphabet sh shalom shaddai shekhinah…..

Martin Luther “They are our public enemies and incessantly blaspheme our lord jesus christ, they call our blessed virgin mary a harlot, and her holy son a bastard and to us they give the epithet of changelings and abortions.Their synagogues should be set on fire and whatever does not burn up should be covered or spread over with dirt.Their homes likewise be broken down and destroyed.They should be deprived of the Talmud in which such idolatry,lies,cursing, blasphemy and murder are taught” 1531

I know that ye are abrahams seed, but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.I speak that which I have seen with my father, and ye do that which ye have seen in your father.They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father.Jesus saith unto them,if ye were abrahams children, ye would do the works of abraham. John 8,37-39

Ye are of your father the DEVIL, and the lusts of your father ye will do.He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not to the truth, because there is no truth in him.When he speaketh a lie,he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8-44

frankly

So the mission of the trolls is to bash Putin for not starting WW III. Peace, who wants that, only sissies. We hear you but disagree. There is a way to peacefully move to a better world and Putin is working at that. Trump would like to help but he’s got his hands full to avoid winding up like JFK. Anyone who says the only way to stop the Empire is through violence is in fact promoting the Empires only way to stay in power, violence. Every day that passes without all out war moves us one step closer to Empire collapse and that is clearly shown by the increasing desperation to incite violence. Giving Javelins to Ukraine Nazis is like going to a prison and putting a hand grenade with the pin pulled in each hand of every inmate and guard. Inevitable violence. Not supplying the s-400 takes away one of Israel’s reasons to commit violence. Destroying Israel would unleash nuclear holocaust, who does not get that? So the more you demonize Putin and Russia, the more I want to move there and get away from you assholes. Staying here and watching Empire dissolve into some dystopian, Zombie, apocalypse is getting boring as are all you trolls drooling out the MIC’s nightmare vision of salvation. We can kill our way to peace. With all the dignity of a Clinton victory celebration that was filmed before her defeat.

RichardD

PCR has turned into your garden variety Russia basher. In his Orwellian 1984 world view Russia is losing the war in Syria, when obviously they’re winning it. And Putin is inept because he’s leading a winning war effort. This contradictory nonsense makes the people espousing it look like the idiots that they are.

He also falls into the incompetent arm chair general category with his constant harping about Putin doing everything wrong. Without offering specifics on his Rambo plan on how Putin should be doing things differently.

JustPassingThrough

PCR=BS+dementia

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