US forces are in the outskirts of the Syrian town of Manbij
In its first response to Turkey’s plan to launch a military operation against the Syrian Democratic Force (SDF), the Pentagon said that any military action into northeastern Syria will be “unacceptable” and a source of concern.
“Unilateral military action into northeast Syria by any party, particularly as U.S. personnel may be present or in the vicinity, is of grave concern. We would find any such actions unacceptable,” Commander Sean Robertson, a Pentagon spokesman, said at the early hours of December 13.
Robertson added that dialogue between the SDF and the Turkish government is the only way to secure the Syrian-Turkish border without clarifying if the U.S. will work to facilitate such solution.
“We believe this dialogue is the only way to secure the border area in a sustainable manner, and believe that uncoordinated military operations will undermine that shared interest,” CNN quoted Robertson as saying.
A day earlier, Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan revealed that the Turkish military will attack northeastern Syria within a few days. Syrian opposition sources said that the attack will target the SDF-held city of Tell Abyad, which hosts a key border crossing.
In response to Erdogan’s threat, the he Democratic Autonomous Administration (DAA) called for a total mobilization and said that the international community, including the Damascus government, should prevent any Turkish attack on northeastern Syria. The local administration, which governs the SDF-held area, also warned that Turkey wants to annex parts of the war torn country.
Robertson’s statement does not indicate that the U.S. is willing to defend its main proxy in Syria. If Washington does not step in, its relations with Syrian Kurds will likely get severely damaged.
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This sounds like a win-win for Syria. More friction within NATO. :)
what right do you have AMERICANS in Pentagon? SYRIA is not your country…OR This statement is came from RT REPORTER?…TURKEY WANTS TO ELIMINATE ITS LONG TIME ENEMY KURDISH.
Washington’s presence in Syria is 100% illegal and is in no position to tell Syria, Russia, Iran, or Turkey what to do. Furthermore, the “YPG” should not have leaped into bed together with Uncle Sam and Tel Aviv. Now they will suffer the consequences…
So does that include the USA too? “No because we are the purveyors of freedom, democracy and justice oh and arms and munitions to ISIS. So we are the only ones allowed to be in Syria and everyone else needs to go home. Ok? Anyone? Hello? Are any of you listening to us? Err General I think they are giving you the middle finger.” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7f365b13f73a322cc1b31d9f8a5f9b1a62723b15edea5ef6c2d4c44c54cbe6ec.jpg
The US doesn’t have the ground forces in Syria to prevent a Turkish incursion. And if they engage it with what they do have, which is unlikely. The Turks will defend themselves.
US airstrikes on advancing Turkish ground forces are a possibilty. But that runs the risk of drawing the Turkish air force into the conflict. Which has modern peer, or close to it, equipment. The Turks wouldn’t be advancing without making preparations for providing air cover for their ground forces on an as needed basis. Including against the US if they get attacked.
Will Turkish air even be allowed in NE Syria? Off topic: Reports of Syrian or Russian S300 battalion setting up in Deir Ezzor. This news you will like :) https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-military-moved-s-300-system-near-us-forces-in-east-syria-report/
I’ve written about the need for it since the Dier Ezzor campaign. Russia has had the S-300s in Syria for a while now. From 2016:
“Russia has confirmed it has sent an S-300 air defence missile system to its naval base in Syria’s port of Tartus.
Defence ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said the purpose of the system was to guarantee the security of the base from the air.
The move comes amid growing tension with the West. On Monday, the US halted talks with Russia on trying to co-ordinate air strikes against jihadists.
A ceasefire brokered by Washington and Moscow collapsed last month.”
– Syria conflict: Russia sends missile system to Tartus base –
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37557138
If the report is true. They wouldn’t be deployed as a stand alone system. There would be Buk and Pantsir systems deployed to protect them. It’s a game changer.
The Russians are unlikely to stop TAF flights over NE Syria. And the US doesn’t have much in the way of air defense systems there that I’m aware of. As far as I know Syrian government coalition aircraft are flying there. It’s just ground forces that are being hit by airstrikes.
The US didn’t intercept the Iranian missile strike near US forces. I’m not sure that they even have the ground based systems in place to do it. I doubt that the US would prevent TAF flights absent hostilities resulting from US strikes on Turkish ground forces. TAF recon flights are almost certainly happening now, and probably have been for a while. There just hasn’t been any press coverage of it.
You stupid chimp, don’t you know the Patriot doesn’t have the ability to hit ballistic missiles very well, max speed for patriot is mach 4.1 and their range and altitude are crap, most ballistic missiles go much faster than that, especially those new Iranian ones, mach 15 or 20, and change direction constantly and are also stealthy. Even the Israelis have a better anti ballistic systems than the US does, they’d have more chance of hitting them than the US would. Besides you stupid little chimp, what the hell would they have anti ballistic missile systems there for anyway, a surprise attack by Russia or China maybe, or North Korea perhaps, you are a dumb chimp, now since the Iranian strike they might have moved some in, but they wouldn’t have had them there before. The US has AA missile systems in Al Tanf, Ar Raqqah and Al Hasakah, and they also have newly built radars to direct them, but only the system at Al Hasakah could have been used if it was within 100km of the strike, that’s max range chimp. And the US doesn’t have an extremely high altitude radar there in the area capable of detecting ballistic missiles anyway, the Israelis and Turks do though, but you don’t know that because you don’t pay enough attention to anything do you, you stupid little chimp.
More lies from an idiot. Show me the proof for this disinfo:
“those new Iranian ones, mach 15 or 20”
You can’t, so you won’t You’re wasting people’s time with your public displays of insanity.
Go have a banana chimp.
Your habitual lies and stupidity have been outed.
Go have another banana you stupid chimp.
Everyone sees you for the lying moron and idiot that you are.
What a chimp you are. You do you know what nukes are don’t you, and you do know the US still has a heap of nukes in Turkey, and you do know that Turkey took control of those nuclear installations once before, which should also make you realize they’ll never fight a war against each other. What a stupid chimp you are for even suggesting it.
I’m still waiting for the proof, which you’re not going to provide because you can’t, for this whopper:
“”The simple maths says a Saudi pipeline to the EU would have meant a minimum 30% reduction to Russia’s total export revenue”
So who is the fool, fool?
My understanding is that Turkey does not permit US nukes at Incirclik; most US warplanes have been removed. I believe only 10-12 warthogs remain in Turkey
It wouldn’t surprise me if it’s true. Do you have links?
I could be wrong; I read somewhere that stored nukes in Turkey were to be moved to Romania
If they were removed, they probably weren’t redeployed to Romania. Italy would be more likely.
Yes I know the US’s contingency plans for nukes stationed on foreign soil would have worked out just as effectively as every other crappy thing they try to do, whatever it happened to be, little chimps might believe it couldn’t have possibly turned out badly for the US, since they always have everything perfectly under their control, but I’ve seen it blow up in their faces too many times to believe their chimp talk. Gee what I said was “and you do know that Turkey took control of those nuclear installations once before” why have you said “The Turks never took control of the nukes”, I didn’t say that, can’t you read you stupid chimp. “They cordoned off the facility” – sort of like they do at school functions hey, you make it sound like it was no big deal, that’s not what any of the news reports were saying at the time [google search], it was only the US government itself pretending they weren’t worried about those 70 nuclear weapons being confiscated by the Turks, or worried about all the armed soldiers that were surrounding them, supposedly for their own protection. The Turks were only making sure those murderous assassins that tried to kill their beloved leader Erdogan, couldn’t do the same thing to the US servicemen and their nukes, those assassins Erdogan keeps insisting the US is also protecting and aiding and abetting even now. I’ve never thought of the Turks as being stupid, why wouldn’t they buy the S-400 over the US crap, the Russians have an AA system nearly twice as good, better range for radar and missiles, better radar systems, better mobility, cheaper, but that’s only half of it, they’re 5 to 10 times better at ballistic defense than the US or Israeli counterparts are, better, altitude, range, speed, and accuracy. A Chimp like you would probably go for the expensive but inferior crap though.
You didn’t answer the question, where’s the proof:
“The simple maths says a Saudi pipeline to the EU would have meant a minimum 30% reduction to Russia’s total export revenue”
“those new Iranian ones, mach 15 or 20”
Because you can’t, because you’re a liar, a moron, and an idiot.
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/buk_m3_l4.jpg
– Buk M3 Medium-range air defense missile system –
http://military-today.com/missiles/buk_m3.htm
These have a 45 to 100+ mile range and capability between the S-300 and S-400 systems. They would make the Turkish border a no go area for US aircraft. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KsIx33htFE
How ironic is it at these guys after all the things they said about Assad now claim that he needs to help them protect from a Turkish invasion, you can’t make this stuff up.
Turkish invasion but USA invaded there and whole Iraq.
can’t have the disunited states of friggin’ morons tell Turkey what to do so it will be interesting to see how far the Turks are prepared to go – fold immediately or stick a toe in to see how hot it is or will be. considering Turkey’s legitimate interest to protect itself from the kurdish threat, it would seem such interest would take precedence over the interest of the disunited states of friggin’ morons and thus the white house should back down. however, the desperation in the white house/pentagon is tangible and they continue to fail and flail and believe they can still stipulate to all and sundry what to do and , by golly, how mistaken they are!.
this century’s larf is the disorganized states of friggin’ america.
I am amazed how reasonable the Pentagon could argue ‘we believe this DIALOGE is the only way…’ – if one cannot understand the geopolitical implications and their very own agenda/history, you fell for it…
since when does the Pentagon has a legal saying in the affairs of Syria? Is Syria allowed to tell the US how to manage their Mexican boarder now?
We believe this dialogue is the only way to secure the border area in a sustainable manner, and believe that uncoordinated military operations will undermine that shared interest,” CNN quoted Robertson as saying….
The Only way to Secure any Border in this World in a Sustainable manner is to Kick all them Yangeese Back to Where they came from….
Turkish participation in the partition project to replace the Kurds as Jew slaves is fools gold. It would play right into their Yinon plan machinations for perpetual turmoil. Getting the Jew’s US proxies out of Syria and resolving the region’s Israel problem is the way to solve the Turks Syrian Kurd problem.
The Turks want a Good Bordersecurity? Then they better cooperate with Syria, Russia & Iran…..Finish IsraHell for they are Troublemakers…People are starting to get angry in Europe….We need the U.S. to Follow…Overthrow the Elitist Cabal….
This is the story that the msm has a complete black out on, but it’s happening anyway:
“In a letter dated November 7, 2018, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York notified the Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry that he would comply with the provisions of 18 U.S.C. § 3332 requiring him to present to a special grand jury the Lawyers’ Committee’s reports filed earlier this year of unprosecuted federal crimes at the World Trade Center.
This means a 23-member grand jury, vested with subpoena power and the authority to take sworn testimony, will hear the voluminous evidence of the World Trade Center’s demolition and will have the ability to conduct a thorough investigation that results in indictments against suspected individuals — in other words, what the 9/11 Truth Movement has been working toward for 17 years.”
– Lawyers’ Committee and AE911Truth Launch Joint Project to Ensure Successful Grand Jury Investigation –
https://www.ae911truth.org/news/505-lawyers-committee-and-ae911truth-launch-joint-project-to-ensure-successful-grand-jury-investigation
Whether it’s a Kennedy assassination type cover up, or actually does some good remains to be seen. But it’s something that needs to be done. Unlike staged congressional hearings. It will be a lot tougher to gerrymander. And hiding behind the “national security” canard to thwart a successful outcome, or issuing some judicial ruling that contravenes that facts. Isn’t going to sit well with the public.
Who Americans thing they are …they are only Soros’s and Rothschild fucks. Nobody invited them to Syria. It is Assads and Russian turf so American should admit defeat,
put their tails between their legs and fuck off. Otherwise let Russian bomb hell out of them with Russian strategic bombers. Problem solved.
Erdogan can’t possibly keep hold of southern Idlib and invade Kurdish held territory at the same time, it has to be one or the other. Southern Idlib is a sinkhole for Erdogan’s cash and Ar Raqqah is a goldmine, I think I know which he’d prefer if he had to pick between the 2. The US and NATO still need Turkey and the US still has nuclear weapons on Turkish soil [that they nearly lost after the coup], would the US start a war with Turkey over the Kurds, no way, would Erdogan push the US until they had no choice but to allow him in, yes he would, and is trying to now.
Turkey will not allow US nukes on their soil
They’ve already got them, google search.
I do not know if it is because they are accustomed to invading and destroying sovereign states, but these Americans are the height of hypocrisy! They are in a territory that does not belong to them, but they think they are victims or have rights to decide something. Cowboys who think they’re in the far west …
2 thieves squabblng over their stolen goods,there is no honour amongst thieves,as shown by the turks and zionist yanks.Let them kill one another ,and in the meantime hopefully the Kurds come to their senses and return to the safety of the Syrian Government.