Photos From Tabqa Airbase Recently Captured By SDF

no, assad did not abandoned. simply long time was in defense. thats all.

“…When Syrian government withdraw from Northern Syria and willingly gave land to PYD it legitimized them, this was before Kobane and US involvement…”

Before U.S. involvement? The REASON the SAA couldn’t do anything in northeast Syria at the time is because they were busy fighting the U.S./Saudi/GCC/Israeli-backed FSA and al Qaeda in the west. You make it sound like the SAA was just lounging around drinking tea the whole time and didn’t care what was happening in Kobane.

If the SAA wasn’t busy fighting CIA head-choppers in Aleppo, maybe they could have helped the Kurds defend the north and east side of Syria.

“…Now Turkey, FSA and SAA come in and say thank you for evicting ISIS now get out, no that’s wrong or don’t go any further we can handle the rest…”

F#ck Turkey and the FSA – why do you keep bring them up in a discussion about SDF land and resource theft from the Syrian people? Does one thief justify the actions of another? Neither of them have the right to steal anything from the Syrian people. SDF being Syrians doesn’t justify their theft from the rest of the Syrains either. A thief is a thief.

And you seem to have a rather selective notion of ownership, too. SDF land was ALWAYS Syrian land. The SAA does not show up and tell them to get out, it shows up an reminds them that they are Syrians living in Syria on Syrian sovereign territory. Congratulations for defeating the U.S./Saudi/Israeli-supported head-choppers, but that doesn’t change the fact that this is still Syria. You don’t get to claim Syrian land/resources as a prize just because you defeated the head-choppers that everyone in Syria is fighting.

And by the way, why weren’t these heroic SDF defeaters-of-ISIS in their nation’s army: the SAA? The SDF lapdogs claim the land ‘becasue they’re Syrians’, but they never lifted a finger to defend their nation until ISIS showed up on their doorstep. Where was the SDF when ISIS was attacking their fellow Syrians? Sounds like the SDF only invokes their Syrian citizenship when they can claim land and resources, and to hell with their fellow Syrians anywhere else.

Excuses excuses that is all you offer. What was Iran and Russia doing then? Here some education since you think YPG does nothing against jihadists. Fighting erupts between Kurdish and jihadist forces in November 2012 Cease-fire between Kurds and jihadists in December 2012, with fighting resuming in January 2013, and a second ceasefire in February 2013 City is divided between an Arab-controlled eastern part and a Kurdish-controlled western part[6] In July 2013, the YPG expelled the jihadists from Ras al-Ayn

You must be sitting on Your ears, if You have any – or being blind. FSA has just repeated they would destroy all kurds in Syria.

Syria is no country and has never been. The land belongs to the people and not some corrupt mafiosas in Damaskus taking all of the French protectorat of Syria.

Today we have 57 silly tribe flags runned by religios, warlords a.s.o.

You are correct about one thing. YPG had only some hunting riffels and forks to defend them with, but thats only one thing. If they were armed at that time, they would have been killed by Assads long time before.

Your memory lack seems to be all over about that piece of land and what has happend there. Why were so many kurds deported to Afrin and other places?

SDF is 2 years old and wasnt even born at that time – You moron.

I can confirm that 100%. Assads told, that kurds by PYD and the tiny YPG could fight ISIS.

Except your forgetting that the US created ISIS and is financing the terrorists in the FSA who are interchangeable. Its all for grabbing the territory for a pipeline. The Kurds will be remembered as sellouts, same as current Iraqis,

That requires reaching jordan border it won’t happen.

“…The US doesn’t want anything more in Syria…”

WTF? Do you realize that people can actually see the nonsense you’re writing here? What the U.S. does not want to outright steal in Syria (like land for a half-dozen military bases), it wants to make sure Assad and the rest of the Syrians cannot have. The U.S. neocon plan for Syria was always to steal the resources from the east and sell them back to the population centers in the west to keep Syrians on their knees FOREVER.

“…The Kurds and US are not friends but allies…”

Allies? That’s a laugh. Even the Kurds know they’re pawns being used by the U.S. while it suits U.S. interests – the Kurds are not stupid. The U.S won’t even arm the Kurds properly.

“…If the US is using an air base to help local militias fight against ISIS, how it is an “occupation”?…”

The few hundred thousand ‘locals’ do not represent the will of the other 23 million Syrians. I said it many times before: if the U.S. really wanted to help the Kurds, Arabs or anyone else fight against ISIS, they would nuke Riyadh and Doha and stop trying to overthrow the Syrian government.

“…Whether the country be Turkey or Israel or USA or Russia, whoever fights against ISIS is welcome…”

Nobody is arguing about that in a general sense. What pisses the Syrians off is that the U.S. will only selectively kill ISIS in places where the U.S. wants it’s proxies to steal something from the Syrian people or where the U.S. wants to permanently occupy Syrian sovereign territory ‘because the locals said we can’. It’s thinly-disguised arrogant imperialism, not ‘helping Syrians fight ISIS’

There is about 3-5 million living in SDF areas and about 4-5 million located outside Syria. ISIS 1.5 million, FSA about 1-2 million. Where you get your stats at lie.com? “The few hundred thousand ‘locals’ do not represent the will of the other 23 million Syrians.” HAHA

I can only confirm those estimates.

“WTF? Do you realize that people can actually see the nonsense you’re writing here? What the U.S. does not want to outright steal in Syria (like land for a half-dozen military bases), it wants to make sure Assad and the rest of the Syrians cannot have. The U.S. neocon plan for Syria was always to steal the resources from the east and sell them back to the population centers in the west to keep Syrians on their knees FOREVER.”

The airbase was captured by Daesh despite them not having any airplanes. Do you see your own nonsense you are writing before spewing your crap? It is important as it can be used as a staging ground for securing Tabqa and Raqqa. How is fighting against terrorism keeping someone on the knees? The US is thousands of miles away and the other airbases in Middle East are far away too. So isn’t it more intelligent to have one in Syria? As for resources, Daesh aka Iblis State is already destroying the resources before leaving. They’re burning and destroying oil wells and factories before they go. They did it Palmyra, in Qayyara, Baiji, Mishraq and Badush etc So what can they take anyway? The rebels anyway are losing and there haven’t been much conflict between SDF and Syrian government except in Hasaka. “Allies? That’s a laugh. Even the Kurds know they’re pawns being used by the U.S. while it suits U.S. interests – the Kurds are not stupid. The U.S won’t even arm the Kurds properly.”

I don’t see someone going to lengths of warding off a Turkish attack treating someone as a mere pawn. As for weapons, Turkey is the real reason they aren’t getting any. So atleast be truthful. Both YPG and USA are using each other. YPG started aying with Assad and Russia in Manbij once USA started abandoning them there earlier.

I am making 2 comments as very long comments are labelled as spam.

“The few hundred thousand ‘locals’ do not represent the will of the other 23 million Syrians.”

Do you represent the Syrians or their government? Raqqa and Tabqa’s citizes have control over their fate. The Syrian government can take it up with Russia and USA. “I said it many times before: if the U.S. really wanted to help the Kurds, Arabs or anyone else fight against ISIS, they would nuke Riyadh and Doha and stop trying to overthrow the Syrian government.” The US aid to Syrian rebels against Assad has already been dried up long ago and they’re badly wounded. Only against Daesh they are helped against. As for Riyadh and Doha, there are actors out of Moscow supporting the terrorist Sharia dictator Ramzan Kadyrov and the Taliban.

“What pisses the Syrians off is that the U.S. will only selectively kill ISIS in places where the U.S. wants it’s proxies to steal something from the Syrian people or where the U.S. wants to permanently occupy Syrian sovereign territory ‘because the locals said we can’. It’s thinly-disguised arrogant imperialism, not ‘helping Syrians fight ISIS’.”

What are you their personal therapist who asked all of them? An airbase will save time and resources and Turkey is already getting upset over SDF support and threatning to kick US out if Inclik air base. Some airbase is not an “occupation” in an area which is already being destroyed and looted by Iblis State, but a precautionary measure that also saves resources and fuel and money and is closer to the battlefield.

Besides USA isn’t even deploying nor had made any announcements despite YPG raising this possibility. And the area is surrounded by Daesh territory so even if it deploys, it will be very exposed to attacks and in possible danger of being overrun.

Same kind of walk about. Even ISIS sold a lot of oil. Regimes cant sit if they have no guns and give no bread.

besides USA and the world has become more indpentent of oil. You overestimate a lot of Your value and influenze in too many matters.

I will not comment You 2 much more. You are mainly dark long away from the socalled real world, and really confirm we should have a fence around You somewhere west of istanbul.

I didn’t say anything about USA if anyone requiring oil nor estimated my value. It was the other commenter who kept on balking on about how USA is trying to steal Syrian oil. I was disproving his ridiculous claims.

Ok Your note is understood and in the archive thanks. No loose ends, if avoidable.

this is CLEAR occupation according to international law

Unless the USA and any other countries recognise Syrian councils as legitimate governments, it cannot be considered so completely though some countries will consider it as a violation of international law if they don’t recognise them. The USA isn’t even deployed anyway. The airbase was taken by Daesh despite them having no airplanes. Its a strategic staging area for control of Tabqa city.

all american troops in syria is violation of international law

But SDF slamming ISUS at Tabqa is a good thing. Daesh caliphate has nothing to do with law and order in Syria. SAA is tied up right now in N Hama. This battle must be fought. (It will help help out SAA on other fronts)

not good thing. sdf takes territory for foreig empire:

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/sdf-commander-us-led-air-force-will-use-tabqa-airbase-instead-of-incirlik/

from now you cannot lie.

Per those who don’t recognise the Syrian opposition and the local SDF councils.

International law means nothing anymore since big powers ignore it with conflicts like kosovo iraq georgia syria ukraine.

LOL! They ADMIT they are communists. They call themselves communists WITHOUT SHAME. Which means they have bigger balls than you! sigh… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Workers'_Party

US always planned tu sue kurds. always. Like your country and nation in the next war.

“…You are the one justifying the slaughter of iraqs/Syrians by waiting on SAA which can take a year or so…”

Bullshit. I’m all for the U.S. taking out ISIS and then getting the hell out of Syria forever without leaving behind any proxies like the SDF (= FSA ‘lite’). I’m for everyone leaving Syria after ISIS/al Qaeda/FSA is defeated EXCEPT the nations or people that the Syrians want there. Russia and Hezbollah/Iran are welcome to stay; U.S.: get the hell out.

Your efforts to twist permanent U.S. occupation and land/resource theft by proxy into some kind of magnanimous humanitarian act by us benevolent Americans is a joke. Even we know what our criminal government is doing there. It’s a soft invasion of Syria because our lame-assed FSA regime-overthrow scheme FAILED. Americans are sore losers and still want the prize, so we went to plan B: partition Syria so we can steal the good stuff in the east and use it to control the west.

You really think Syrians want hellbozah to stay, that’s very funny comical even. Having hellbozah there means getting involved with Israel. Which is a lost cause and pointless waste and helped Syria get into this mess in first place. Your efforts to twist heroes that destroyed ISIS into some villain is sick. YPG/PYD are staying the Arab parts of the SDF will get screwed. You don’t know squat umping at darts they might be doing it for better bargaining position, it’s called being smart something you can’t do apparently. Doesn’t matter anyway Russia will shove it down SAA and YPG throat of a peace deal that benefits both parties you and (Assad) think and Syria should stay the same just like before the war that is the most single idealistic fantasy ever. If kurds weren’t treated like second class citzens and the arabization of the lands they live in they might not be so hostile.

Pave Way IV, you run your mouth a lot. I fail to see any substantiation of your claim that capturing the Tabqa airbase means that the US is creating a “PERMANENT” airbase there. Now, if they do, and they refuse to relinquish it later after ISIS has been neutralized, i’ll eat my own shit and admit that you were right. But I have yet to see you substantiate any of your claims. How is what happened at Tabqa airbase any different from the recapturing of Ayn Issa or Manbij by the SDF? You’re freaking out like a lunatic without offering any other solutions.

Hang on – let me get an official, on-the-statement from my Air Force contacts at CENTCOM. How about at signed, sworn statement from Mattis? I also have some highly classified documents laying around that I got from Russian hackers with the complete U.S. op plan for Iraq and Syria for the next ten years – what’s your FAX number?

Neither Ayn Issa nor Manbij have 10,000′ runways suitable for landing the heaviest U.S. transport aircraft. It was conceivable that neither town had any role in a larger, longer-lasting (and unwanted) presence in Syria.

Why didn’t you use the new base at Til Beder in al Hasaka for comparison? Why no mention of Remilan Air Base – the Kurds say there’s hundreds of U.S. support troops there and daily aircraft ops. I could at least have pointed out that their runways are inadequate for our large cargo aircraft. Al Tanf doesn’t have an airport, but the U.S. and UK SF have been there for a couple of years now. I could toss out a half-dozen other suspected U.S. bases buy you would, of course, demand substantiation and my satellite feed is down at the moment.

You seem pissed off that I am willing to speculate about the ulterior motives and intent of the U.S. in Syria based on nothing but some of my own and mostly other intelligent people’s observations. It’s called critical thinking and healthy skepticism. I need to do it because the U.S. government has a solid, long-running pattern of deception or outright lying to the U.S. public about what they’re doing. Not only that but they actively hide or censor everything possible from the few real journalists out there. The MSM are little more than stenographers for them. Do you have some special source that we don’t know about for facts, or do you just sit back until officials feed you their version?

My country killed three million human beings in the Viet Nam neighborhood for nothing (but bullshit reasons) based on lies. The U.S., killed over a million Iraqis for no justifiable reason and turned the country into an abject shithole for nothing that has to do with me, my country or my security. The U.S. is directly or indirectly responsible for the deaths of a quarter million Syrians who never bothered me one bit. It seemed like a nice place. The U.S. *will be* responsible for the deaths of… oh, I don’t know… maybe two or three million Iranians who threaten nobody but the psycho Likudniks. I have a moral obligation to humanity to put my psychopathic leaders on a shorter leash – they are evil.

I at least want to call my government out on their bullshit (not that it will probably do any good). If they are going to use the U.S. military for the interests of foreign nations (or to selectively punish others), then they should at least feel a little bad that some of us realize what they’re up to.

So by your reckoning, I should – what? Sit on my ass for a few years until it’s clear that the U.S. isn’t leaving Syria? Hope for scraps of ‘facts’ that fall off my masters’ table? Should I just be a dumb shit and ignore the same thing that happened in Afghanistan and Iraq? Wait until the U.S. creates the next boogeyman and cheer the U.S. heroics to defeat them? Don’t patterns of behavior mean anything to you? For Christ’s sake, my leaders want to go to Yemen and help kill Houthis now. Sorry, but I’ll stick to calling a spade a spade and try to divine their evil intentions as best I can. I don’t have to be 100% right – that’s impossible, I only have to be close enough to understand what those bastards are up to.

My guess is a permanent U.S. military base at Tabqa justified by the usual litany of reasons they choke out. I think we’ll be in Afghanistan and Iran forever. Maybe I’ll be wrong about that.

See, even when I’m right by degrees, you’ll always to be able to claim you were right. ISIS neutralized? That sounds a lot like Taliban neutralized. So I guess five years from now, you’ll still claim the U.S. presence at Tabqa is still not permanent because they still have not neutralized ISIS (or fulfilled Israel’s demand that U.S. keep Syria destabilized and prevent the Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline).

SDF Commander: US-led air force will use Tabqa airbase instead of Incirlik

Any idea how much logistics the U.S. will need to do that? It will take a year to make that ‘temporary’ base fully operational. They are NEVER going to leave – it will be U.S. occupied territory forever and be the permanent guard station for the planned Qatari/Israeli pipelines.

They had bto declare Rojava because of hard pressure from mainly turks.

If Assads are still there and can only give obayh or die, they have to choose. Too me odds also change during time.

Lets say Raqqa arabs as well as others along Eufrat dont like Assads back. They are old uprisers too, they could make some loose kind of defendable loose autonomy there. Couldnt they.

By that you even could join the old times kind of thinking with a sunniarab & kurd state in the middle incl 2 provinces in Iraq – errrh without ISIS & Qaida.

Shiits then could have the southern part of mesopothamia.

But as You write to Jürgen Walter: We will see. We might even try to live healthier and be much older to see any of those possible solutions.

My best dream sometimes is, that all the agressive kill each other and only 1 is left, and its a kurdish woman. She will afterwards be president for all the refugees coming back.