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Poland Takes Centre Stage In ‘New Cold War’ Strategy

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The decision of the Trump administration announced on 15 August that it is deploying another 1,000 troops to Poland pursuant to a new defence cooperation agreement signed on the anniversary of the victory of Poland in the Polish-Soviet war of 1920 reflects the US intention to locate a string of strategic offensive and defensive military infrastructure along Russia’s western border, from Norway in the far north to the Black Sea countries in the south.

Poland Takes Centre Stage In ‘New Cold War’ Strategy

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The establishment and steady expansion of major military bases and logistics and operations hubs located along Russia’s western border is accompanies by an increase in strategic long-range strike exercises and drills involving bombers and submarines operating alone or jointly with other NATO countries or non-NATO partners such as Ukraine.

In an analysis of the broader geopolitical context of the move, Covert Action Magazine notes that the 1,000 military personnel to be deployed to Poland will be added to the 4,500 that were previously deployed by President Barack Obama following the 2014 Western-backed coup d’état in Ukraine and the Russian reunification with Crimea.

Poland Takes Centre Stage In ‘New Cold War’ Strategy

President Duda poses with Polish and US soldiers participating in military exercises called ‘DEFENDER-Europe 20’

As part of the defence cooperation agreement, Poland has agreed to host forward elements of the U.S. Army’s V Corps headquarters, which the Polish foreign minister called “the most important U.S. command centre on NATO’s eastern flank.”

The most recent events are a part of the strategic shift of successive US administrations moving the core military installations and activities of NATO from Paris and Bonn – what Donald Rumsfeld referred to as ‘old Europe’ – to the East, in accordance with a broader plan to forge alliances with and gain military control over as many of the countries of the former Soviet Union as possible, in Central and Eastern Europe as well as in Central Asia.

Poland Takes Centre Stage In ‘New Cold War’ Strategy

‘Defender Europe 20’ US-led NATO military exercises

Both the Obama and Trump administrations have poured weapons into Eastern Europe, accompanied by the establishment of forward-deployed US troops and military installations and integrated with ongoing programs of military training and military exercises.

The shift of US military hardware and activities eastwards  is part of an attempt to resurrect the Intermarium—a geopolitical concept originating in the post-World War I era that envisages an alliance of countries reaching from the Baltic Sea over the Black Sea to the Aegean Sea that would serve as an alternative power bloc between Germany and Russia.

Poland Takes Centre Stage In ‘New Cold War’ Strategy

NATO membership and expansion

The term Intermarium was used by former United States Army Europe (USAREUR) commander General Ben Hodges to describe the US strategy for Central and Eastern Europe, before being revived on a much broader scale by the ruling Polish Party of Law and Justice as well as by Ukrainian far-right movements in the wake of the 2014 coup in Ukraine.

In 2019, the US Army began rotational deployment of an armoured brigade combat team to Poland while the Pentagon prepositioned equipment for an MQ-9 Reaper drone squadron there.

In March 2018, Poland signed a $4.75 billion deal to purchase US Patriot missile defence systems from Raytheon, the largest arms procurement deal in Polish history.

At the signing ceremony, Polish President Andrzej Duda stated that the historic moment was “Poland’s introduction into a whole new world of state-of-the art technology, modern weaponry and defensive means.”

Russia responded to the Patriot deal by upgrading its own nuclear arsenal and shifting strategic assets westwards, including the deployment of Iskander short-range nuclear capable missiles in Kaliningrad, a 5,800-square-mile Russian exclave wedged between Poland and Lithuania.

One of the features of the first Cold War was the US alliance with conservative and extreme right-wing factions, including those with Nazi collaborationist ties. The new Cold War, unfortunately, is shaping up to be little different, as the US is again forming alliances with far right governments and political factions in the region against Russia.

Polish President Andrzej Duda is a leader of the right-wing Law and Justice Party, which has been criticized for tightening government control over the media and promoting the repression of political opponents and critics.

Duda has also been accused of promoting a right-wing revisionism surrounding World War II. In 2018, Duda signed a law playing down the Polish role in the Nazi Holocaust,  banning people from accusing Poland of Holocaust atrocities committed by the Nazis and from referring to concentration camps as ‘Polish death camps’.

The Duda administration has made a point of glorifying Polish resistance to the Nazis, but has underplayed Polish crimes like at Jedwabne in July 1941, where Poles rounded up and killed their Jewish neighbours.

The Jedwabne pogrom was an atrocity committed on July 10, 1941, during the German occupation of Poland in World War II. Described as a massacre or a pogrom by postwar historians, it resulted in the death of at least 340 Polish Jews of all ages, locked in a barn which was later set on fire. A group of 23 Polish males was involved, after being summoned in Jedwabne by a German paramilitary group known as the Ordnungspolizei.

Duda has also promoted stringent anti-communism campaign whose supporters have demolished numerous Soviet-era monuments dedicated to the heroic Red Army, while Nazi collaborators are presented as ‘patriots’ and ‘heroes’. Duda in fact signed a law banning all references to communism.

Given this position, it is no surprise that Poland has been active in the movement to oust Alexander Lukashenko  following contested elections in Belarus. Polish and Western media have been strongly promoting and supporting pro-Western opposition figures, hoping to capitalize on the political and social turmoil in the country to install a pro-West, anti-Russia transition regime. Nexta Live, an online television station presenting minute-by-minute updates on the protests in Belarus, operates out of Poland.

A Polish Special Forces unit that specializes in psychological operations has been involved in coordinating what some analysts are referring to as the ‘Belomaidan protests’ in Bydgoszez, whose supporters endorsed the Intermarium, or alliance of Eastern European countries against Russia.

When the BBC interviewed a photo-journalist who had been arrested by Lukashenko’s police, he happened to be a Pole with a neo-Nazi background.

The bottom line is that the US military alliance with Poland is helping to prop up an increasingly authoritarian right-wing regime which is also seeking to encourage and intensify hostile attitudes and actions against Russia. LINK

To the far north, Norway has also been increasingly incorporated into the string of geostrategic military infrastructure and operations stretching along Russia’s western frontier since around 2016, serving as an operational base for much more frequent  visits by US strategic nuclear submarines, substantially increasing the number of US troops and hardware stationed there, and participating much more actively in US-led NATO war games.

To the south, Ukraine has also substantially increased its active participation in NATO aerial and naval war games around the Black Sea as well as opening its airspace to US/ NATO long-range strategic bombers in joint military drills together with most of the other Black Sea nations, some of which also host US missile defence installations. The US has operated an Aegis Ashore missile interception system in Romania since 2016. LINK

To the extent that US-led NATO forces continue their concentration on Russia’s borders, the NATO countries can expect Russia to deploy more of its forces in positions where they can launch rapid attacks against European countries perceived as threats, and the US can expect more large-scale Russian military exercises and manoeuvres involving strategic strike forces close to Alaska such as those that were held last month. Given the corresponding US military encirclement of China, China may be encouraged to participate in such military activities in the future.

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Jens Holm

Thats a higly biased version and the map too.

Much as Russia prefare to regain the Molotov-Ribbetrop pact:)

Lone Ranger

You spelled the U.S./UK/Ukropisstan and the Munich Agreement wrong Trollstoy…

Jens Holm

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/40fe4ec8d2582f1af7a2104c003afb9f16f08f3ad02585f25b4cc9bcc0d8170f.jpg

Maybee I speak and the computers spell and I should remove my toothbrush – Or maybee I dont care.

Lone Ranger

Thats a cute pic about you Jens?

Jens Holm

Yes, wife pedicure. They have one foot each.

Lone Ranger

He is the worst LSD abuser in Denmark…

Jens Holm

Maybee. We see You like this: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c9b1f8accecfe7baf154c200bdb69798c3ccb3be84ebdc19cc34fe50551dabd6.jpg

Lone Ranger

Thats your bathroom mirror Jens…

Jens Holm

Maybee.

Jens Holm

We are not one. and well represented in the stocmarket.

We are paid every time we make people angry or cry. We are doing fine and are making more chidren. We will raise them well to by free education dind their skills and pay them pr hour.

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/179a681f2464b4bee4cbd7b6d7474efc9fdd5c7281866f47f406a577cf1c6795.jpg

Servet Köseoğlu

Masochist Poland makes his choice again..Eternal victim.. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/18be10ceaf550bae3ee837d2415bf35f170c8d1a72ab76fbbd94a48715e81867.jpg

Sauron

thats what happens when you don’t have mountains

Servet Köseoğlu

a war at east europe,baltık will be perfect…it will drain resources of both sides..

HiaNd

Keep dreaming Turk. There will be no war between Russia and NATO because all this is just posturing (just like Turkey does at the moment with Greece) If the WW3 starts that will be the end of us all including Turkey.

Servet Köseoğlu

unfortunately but just short conventional war limited at east-europe is my dream..

Nosferatu

Unfortunately (for you) it is Turkey now, who made so many bad moves, it can loose its statehood. Turkey has more fronts open than Hitler did. You guys are fighting in Lybia, Syria, Greece and Cyprus, while alienating both NATO (US and France) and Russia (with your Syrian double sided game). This will not end well for you. Perhaps Constantinopol will be liberated again.

HiaNd

Erdogan is chameleon and opportunist (that is trade mark of Turks).

He is capable to turning into anything and taking any side in the last moment if he is convinced that is in interest of his ambitions. Turkey can’t stay forever on the crossroads and in-between two blocks, because they are bound to lose the most in the case of any spontaneous starting of even bigger conflicts in the region

Servet Köseoğlu

bring it on https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9d06f6022aa03bb5e3b1be265ed3715b6cf5a3b71274de3711fb6d883276a0b7.gif

HiaNd

“bring it on” ???!! And you are already in the middle of the conflicts?! In that case Greece even France will get involved and you will be way above your head in trouble! In that situation EVERYBODY will be opportunist and attack you including SAA , all Syrian and Iraqi Kurds, general Haftar, Egypt and even Russia will shoot down your F-16 if they intrude in Syrian air space.

There are no “friends” between countries only INTERESTS !

occupybacon

The F-16 pilot that took down the Russian plane was arrested in the coup against Erdogan

HiaNd

You actually confuse 2 pilot’s.

The pilot from the “coup” have bombed Turk parliament palace (or Erdogan’s residence I don’t remember any longer) He was arrested and trailed.

While the pilot who shot down Russian bomber was arrested and trailed also. And not only him but also commander of the Turkic terrorist’s group (Turk citizen) in Syria who have killed Russian pilot from that bomber was also arrested and trailed.

occupybacon

I don’t confuze anything, the pilot who downed the Russian plane was arested after the coup together with other pilots. Not because he shot at Russian plane(at least not officially). I also kniw about the turkmen that killed the pilit and bragged with that.

As for the rest, I doubt that USA wants to start a war between NATO and Russia, they could have done it long time ago if they really wanted it.

Servet Köseoğlu

it was all nato-cia set-up..

Jens Holm

No, they were helped. They had nothing against a whole Russian Empire and ots remaining strength. Normal talk and negosiation was not even an option.

We see exact the same for Syria. Contact to the poertfull and well armed Governess was as talking to a TV.

occupybacon

If it was, there is a chance soon you wish they succeeded. I give it over 50%

Cromwell

Its about time Russia caused a few quagmires for the Americans.

HiaNd

Americans are already forever in Afghanistan…. MIC and Pentagon are doing excellent jobs to keep America in permanent useless wars. I doubt that Russia would be able to do it any better than that.

Nosferatu

funny you.

Servet Köseoğlu

you are the funny one bub,,,shallow comment..Turkey has more fronts open than Hitler didwhat did we do attack with anyone else with 165 divisions? Perhaps Constantinopol will be liberated againforget it already..ı know you have a hurt but all your sentences with İstanbul are like productions from turn-bench same size,same color..it can loose its statehoodbe precise how can we loose our statehood?

Nosferatu

well its clear you dont know anything about global politics. It can have a great consequences if you manage to create eneies out of all your neighbours, while losing NATO support and Russian partnership. Your army is big, but not that big. Thre was a few times already when UK stoped Russians from taking Constantinopol (last time in 1917), but maybe this time there will not be such force.

Jens Holm

I only see You as Turkey make more enemies.

Expanding might be the easy part. Keep and keep in a productive phase is much more difficult.

HiaNd

So keep dreaming There is no such thing as “conventional war” option between US-NATO against Russia-China

Jens Holm

It never will be short. Both has a lot of reserves in the hinterland.

Are You in building costruction or undertaker?

Servet Köseoğlu

read caredully,short and conventional just to see possibilities of sides.

Jens Holm

Thats act one – the surprice. Number two is extra troops. Dividing Eatern Europe is Poland and the rest of the dividings are no options anymore.

Russia did twice and they did it very bad hardly making any improvements. Thats what I think I see.

Lone Ranger

Not really. Russia would take the Baltics in 72 hours. Poland in a month. Brussels in 2 months. According to Pentagon…

occupybacon

That’s why MDA exists and USA keeps military in all these countries.

Lone Ranger

U.S. in in Syria as well and they are losing. They arent totally retarded, wing risk WWIII, especially when they are the culprits. Didn’t happen in Korea nor Vietnam nor Georgia.

Jens Holm

So who are the winners. I see none. But Trump is smiling.

Not bad Turks, Assads, the Jihadist, Russian generals and SDFs are killing each other. And ISIS contributing is fun too as long as they dont come to USA.

Lone Ranger

Syria is winning and the Syria people.

Jens Holm

As Syrian in Trukey, Lebanon, Jordan and Europe says.

We lost Our country and got a tent – hip hip.

Lone Ranger

You mean your jihadi buddies in isis camps.

Jens Holm

2 of the 3 millions in Turkey fleed from ISIS. Most of the rest dont feel themself affiliated with any jihadisme, but the dont support Assads at all.

Lone Ranger

You are either with Assad or CIAisis.

Lone Ranger

P.S. Russia would only steamroll these countries in case they attack Russia.

Jens Holm

We dont have thise russian propaganda intensions at all. It probatly would not be a learner fro You if we printet it out, rolled it up and injekted You with it by Your behind.

Lone Ranger

Pentagon is spreading Russian propaganda…? You better call your local soros NGO…

occupybacon

I bet some emo kids dream Estonia will attack Russia or some stupid ass scenario just because they are too pussy to slit off their veins and they would rather die in something very important together with millions. Usually they obsess about Russian weapons specs around here.

Lone Ranger

Projection. Thats ha ukropnazis and balticnazis think.

occupybacon

Then ztop projecting

Lone Ranger

Indeed you should :)

occupybacon

I’m not pasionate about big guns specs and I don’t imagine a war between Russia and NATO.

Lone Ranger

Me either.

occupybacon

Any secret weapons Russia has that can obliterate USA before Trump pressing the red button? :))

Lone Ranger

They dont need secret weapons for that, the one we already know about can do it easily. Trump wont nuke Russia. He likes slavic people. His main focus is China right now.

occupybacon

Will Trump nuke China?

Lone Ranger

I hope not.

Lone Ranger

Indeed, you should…

Jens Holm

I see no reasons for that. Many there are poor for many good and bad reasons.

It makes me sad they dont solve their disputes. Mabee it would make sense You went to Syria and was spendable there supporting the Turkish military complexisities:)

Jens Holm

Thats only partly correct. They have a long line of mountains into Tjekkia named Tatrus mountains. An poland has a lot of well know wetland, which today is known as Mazurian Lake districts as well as well as swamps.

Jens Holm

Yes, thats a very important choise. The election was a great succes even I dont like the winners very much.

Sauron

Cold War 2.0 western front. No matter how long it takes, economy and size will play its role

HiaNd

Since US economy is in very big trouble and society is on verge of civil war. And since all US economy and specially Wall street is rigged. We can only wait for implosion of the dollar “to decide” the winner. I will let you supporter of NATO to guess who that might be.

Sauron

“Since US economy is in very big trouble and society is on verge of civil war.”:))))) 80 years same story, and same people believing in those Soviet fairy tales. Well, you can take a person from Soviet Union, you cannot take Soviet Union from the person.

HiaNd

Whatever. I was not even trying to convince you or anybody else. That is well acknowledged FACT among the experts on economy. But published only in INDEPENDENT MEDIA and foreign press not controlled by and out of reach from US censorship.

US is now Soviet Union spending to the last cent on weapons while on the verge of total collapse of the dollar and implosion of US economy. With every day more homeless and hungry with every day riots on the streets! Do stuck your stupid head deep up your NATO ass you effing delusional idiot !

Sauron

Soviet media was a propaganda. And propaganda is a one way information channel. Doesn’t really work in a comment section:))) The way propaganda can react to a comment or criticism is to just keep repeating the same message. But the effect wears off then.

Dawn

Thats exactly what you are doing sunshine..

Sauron

Only after you. Since you are dawn and i am sunshine:)))

Lone Ranger

U.S. media is worse than Soviet propaganda was. Just look at Vietnam or Central and South America…

Sauron

I talking about Soviet Media. What does US media have to do with it?

Lone Ranger

A coin has two sides. If you want to get the full story you have to observe both sides objectively.

Sauron

If you want to get the full story you shouldn’t listen to propaganda at all. Regardless 2 sides, 3 sides, 10 sides, none.

Lone Ranger

You can learn a lot from lies…

Sauron

i can’t maybe you can. good luck

Sauron

Lies are not to be learned from

Lone Ranger

Wrong. You have to read between the lies. You watch the news in CNN, than on Fox you get the picture pretty good.

Sauron

that will only serve your confirmation bias.

Lone Ranger

Did papa soros tell you that? Only his propaganda phamplets are the Truth, nothing else… Try harder…

Sauron

mama Zakharova said, with one leg naked on the other

Lone Ranger

Hi papa Soros…

Sauron

hi

Lone Ranger

☢️☣️⚠️

Sauron

feel free to pick and choose from news that best fits your narrative to sleep better at night. it will still not become the truth. it will be your truth, but not actual truth

Lone Ranger

There is a thing called objective Truth… The more you listen to liars the easier is to see through them. They are a one trick pony…

Sauron

oh thats why u r in SF. now it makes sense

Lone Ranger

SouthFront is a lot better than Soros news…

Sauron

you have your own brain. no one says take for the face value

Lone Ranger

That was very Jens like…

Sauron

anytime

HB_Norica

“Soviet media was a propaganda. And propaganda is a one way information channel.”

US media is owned by 15 rich individuals …. the same 15 individuals are among the elite few who fund the campaigns and write the legislation for every federally elected politician in the USA through their corporate interests …. and you think it’s the other guy who’s spreading lies and propaganda.

Jens Holm

Well go on with Your systematic madness. By that You say 15 different oppinions are allowed. Dont You??

And…You can write in at comment most of them and dont get jailed, because there are rules for that and a few restrictions only. Those 15 sometimes den to take in articles and opponions by them.

Sovjet and fx Turkey is noty like that at all. Erdogan having parlamentarisme even have blamed the Danish Goverment for not cotrolling the press.

China and India has same kind of demands about things we can think and express here in Denmark.

Denmark also is famous for bringing Muhammed cartoopns in an uunsmart way. That was done by muslim medias and again and again. Even the danish embassy in Damaskus was damged hard by paid demonstraters.

Russia dont renew themselves by romoving all oppinions for improvements. Thats what I see and make small comments abut here and there.

Russia to me Is like the last many years of the infected communisme. Men grows older and older and more and more experianced about good old days – But at the same time they become seniles more and more.

“we knocked Out the Hitler Nazis at Kursk and will do it with Merkel too”. So the dreams are more upgrading of the T90`s or something and people after 100 year will change and work harder and better in the same low livingstandards, so they can effort more them 20 Armatas next time some shermans attack from Kharkow and Minsk.

No one want to attack Russia. The ,main problems are topo many lazy bum Russians. We not even need Belarus. We already has the many other leftevers from the collpased neocolonialisme including DDR.

E even hear we steal from someone, which has nothing none will take.

HB_Norica

“By that You say 15 different oppinions are allowed. Dont You??”

No my friend that’s not what I’m saying at all. watch this to the end then see if you want to continue with your argument about “opinions” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=487CRdRHEeI

HB_Norica

Well go on with Your systematic madness. By that You say 15 different oppinions are allowed. Dont You??

Notice how they’re all different networks https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=_fHfgU8oMSo

Fog of War

” No one want to attack Russia. ” You are wrong.

Lone Ranger

U.S. economy was never in such trouble as it is today. Its not Soviet nostalgy, the U.S. is the new crumbling Soviet Union…

Sauron

Its just covid. it will bounce back

Lone Ranger

Covid is only the icing on the cake. It was in ruins before that. Like the final blow to the Soviet economy was Chernobyl.

Sauron

Economy of USSR just like its propaganda (including wishful predictions of competitors’ doom) was a fake bubble. Chernobyl or not, it was going to go down regardless.

Lone Ranger

Same as the U.S. economy… Not everything was fake, their military and infrastructure projects were impressive even by U.S. standards at the time.

Sauron

There is no curtain. Some countries remain under curtain even after the leave USSR. its like a curse.

Lone Ranger

Only if they have a crappy economy like Ukraine. It also doesnt help to be the most corrupt countries in Europe. CIA and the EU havent realized yet that its a black hole, no matter how much money you dump in it.

Sauron

true that

Sauron

i was talking about the big elephant in the room, but sure Ukraine is no better

Sauron

US might be the next Soviet Union if it gets into competition with China and we talk about it in 20 years. Not now, not by Russia. Russian economy is smaller than New York:)))

Lone Ranger

Russian economy is the 5th largest by GDP ppp, with low debt and high Forex reserves. U.S. already lost the race against China. They only havent realized it yet. Whole U.S. exports less than small Germany. New York stock exchange is smoke and mirrors. You really belive Facebook is worth $200billion. FED is handing free money to Fortune 500 companies whom than are buying up their own stocks propping up the price than reselling them creating debt bubbles and virtual profit. Debt is $24trillion, but the derivative bubble is around $800trillion, when it pops and it will, it will make the 2008 melt down look like a walk in the park.

Sauron

things worth as much as others are prepared to pay for it. non international currencies go up and down based on what people in that community do with it. sell and buy USD then it will go down. But it and save it then it will go down. If a country’s residents don’t believe in its value others won’t. That pretty much explains the volatility of currency market and can apply to stock exchange as well.

HiaNd

You have already LOST not only economic competition but any possible war against Russia and China…You just do not know that yet !

Sauron

Me? I lost a war? I haven’t even fought in war:)))

cechas vodobenikov

the bigger they r the harder they fall—US empire last phase Jameson, Orlov….Galtung has employed 15 mathematical indices to predict the demise of the US empire in less than 10 years…USA irrelevant except to the small weak nations it invades

Sauron

reading Soviet papers again.:))) Nostalgic innit?

Lone Ranger

This time the U.S. is the Soviet Union…

Sauron

And Russia is New York:))))

Lone Ranger

New York was always a shithole.

Sauron

Which is why lots of New Yorkers moved to Moscow. Oh wait, wasn’t it the other way around?:)))

Lone Ranger

Its still a shithole. Most of the oligarchs were jewish and the biggest jewish community is in New York in the U.S. They feel well protected there. Thats all.

Sauron

why wouldn’t they feel protected in Moscow. isn’t is a safe city?

Lone Ranger

Not if you have stolen tens of $billions and want to get away with it.

Sauron

So if Voldemort prevails, now current thiefs will run. Lucky US, collecting all the green:)))

Lone Ranger

$ will be worthless. Only gold, silver, oil, rare earth minerals, sweet water reservoirs, thats the cash of the 21st century. You will see it pretty soon.

Sauron

Crypto man. that is the future. lucky me, i bought before the boom.

Lone Ranger

Its too volatile. The golden rule is that gold rules. Aside from that most people dont know whats behind crypto currencies.

Sauron

gold is old

Lone Ranger

It never gets old. Thats why most countries whom can afford it are hoarding it.

Sauron

all currencies are free of gold. including your country

Lone Ranger

Moving back to gold standard…

Sauron

yet they work as uber drivers:)))

Lone Ranger

Unlikely. Those are ukropnazis. Same in Canada.

Sauron

not those that i saw:)))

Lone Ranger

They lie about it tho :) Most ukrops are ashamed of their heritage. Same as many Americans will say abroad they are Canadians…

Sauron

That is what you claim

Lone Ranger

Objective Truth.

Sauron

so you say

Lone Ranger

You can check everything I say…

Sauron

you can provide sources if your would like

Lone Ranger

About what? For example…

Lone Ranger

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/17/fed-is-addicted-propping-up-market-whether-it-needs-help-or-not/

Sauron

i don’t know you so am not interesting in fact-checking you

Lone Ranger

Than thats another magic wand moment from you…

Sauron

have you met them?:))))

Lone Ranger

Online I have. Are you one of them?

Sauron

you meet with uber drivers online?:)))

Lone Ranger

Ukropnazis in general. Most “Russians” in the west are actually Ukrops, with the exception if some Russian jews in Israel and oligarchs.

Sauron

Russians are dills? why would you say that? most I met were decent human beings.

Lone Ranger

Ukropnazis…*

Sauron

Russians are dillnazis?

Lone Ranger

Ukropnazis are Russians in denial…

Sauron

I don’t see a reason they would hide it

Lone Ranger

I would. Ukraine is the shithole of Europe. U.S. is a hated country…

Sauron

again memory span of a fish. reminding what we were talking about. Russian Uber drivers in NYC. Not Europe, NYC. Not outside US, NYC.

Lone Ranger

They arent Russian, but ukrop. Try to focus…

Sauron

Dill? Russians are nice people, dont call them dill

Lone Ranger

Ukrops…*

Sauron

dills?

Sauron

or coppers

Lone Ranger

What about cops?

Sauron

russian immigrants as coppers. get 26k per year be almost poor, still better than back on mazalend:)))

Lone Ranger

Did you read that in a Disney story…? Or another Soros hit piece…

Sauron

Incomparable it is. Would be a good stand up comedy to compare those cities:)))

Lone Ranger

Why would it be incompatible. New York would lose badly on all fronts. Its also smaller than Moscow.

Sauron

you are on a different level of ignorance:)))

Lone Ranger

Indeed you are.

Sauron

you mate you. different pronouns

Lone Ranger

Dont be so hard to yourself…

Sauron

not “hard to yourself” but “hard on yourself”:))))

Lone Ranger

Both is correct. Adide from that grammar is changing all the time. Most Americans cant tell the difference between there/their and our/are…

Sauron

not “Adide” but “Aside”, i assume.

Lone Ranger

Thats a typo… Are you really going to be a grammar nazi now…? You made a number of mistakes already…

Sauron

oh i thought it was some word i didn’t know, my bad:))))

Sauron

im not talking about american education level

Lone Ranger

You should, they are your liblings…

Sauron

maybe i should but im not.

Sauron

what is liblings?

Lone Ranger

Fav people in german.

Sauron

oh ok…?

Sauron

Moscow is better than New York, yeah right:))))

Lone Ranger

Indeed it is. Bigger, more advanced, better infrastructre, no getthoes, brand new business center. Its also more cosmopolitan. Have you ever been to you New York? I was there, twice, worst city I have ever visited. Shitty towns in the countryside felt better than that nightmare.

Sauron

Can neither confirm nor deny that I have been in both cities. Moscow bites the dust in front of NYC. Only traffic is worse in NY than Moscow, but still both suck.

Lone Ranger

Moscow is lightyears ahead of New York. In fact almost every major city is ahead of New York. Only thing they are good at is PR and movies.

Sauron

lightyear is a distance not time:))))

Lone Ranger

Indeed. NY is sofar behind they would need a warp drive to catch up. ;)

Sauron

development cannot be measured by distance. time, perhaps somehow you could. but distance, that is a no no

Lone Ranger

Sure it can. You too are behind the curve…

Sauron

prove it

Lone Ranger

I already did. :)

Sauron

nope. you didn’t.

Lone Ranger

Yes I did.

Sauron

somewhere else perhaps. you are welcome to copy paste here

Lone Ranger

Try to focus…

Sauron

btw im not atlking about the beauty of the city. I don’t like grid cities anyways. but living standards

Lone Ranger

Moscow has better livingstandards. At least on avg. No getthoes…

Sauron

You are thinking Rio, im talking about NYC vs Moscow:)))) its even funny to write vs in this case:)))

Lone Ranger

Indeed its funny. Even Rio beats NY.

Sauron

Moscow is so behind cant compare

Lone Ranger

You spelled ahead wrong tho…

Sauron

nope

Lone Ranger

Yep

Sauron

How big is Moscow gdp, remind me:))))

Lone Ranger

Bigger than the fake GDP of NY. QE Unlimited…

Sauron

source:))))????

Lone Ranger

FED… QE Unlimited…

Fog of War

Who mainly resides in US ghettos ?

Lone Ranger

Poor U.S. citizens whom cant afford to leave.

Fog of War

I guess Russia has no poor citizens then. Must be nice to only have a middle and upper class.

Lone Ranger

P.S. CIA/MI6 started to kill them one by one in recent years, you know during economic hardship dog eats dog, at least in London and New Xork, they kill them and steal their money, they already started flocking back to Russia for protection. Putin is ok with that but there are two conditions, one they have to serve Russia as a good Patriot would do. Second the money they sole from the Russian people in the 90s will be taxed by the Russian state.

Sauron

ahahaa. good one. NKVD style.

Lone Ranger

indeed, CIA/MI6 has sunk deep.

Sauron

do you have the link for the trailer? i bet it will hit well

Lone Ranger

Watch the Bourne movies, comes pretty close to reality…

Sauron

thats where u get your inspiration?:)))

Lone Ranger

No, they get theirs from reality. MKultra…

Sauron

you mate you. still different

Lone Ranger

Not really.

Sauron

English class level 2. Help yourself:)))

Lone Ranger

My english is just fine, thanks.

Sauron

anytime

Sauron

that movie is about me. my name is Ascshf LSHTSHFUM

Lone Ranger

?

Sauron

true that. shhhht

Sauron

glad you compared it that way:)))

Sauron

Too soon mate. lets talk about it in 20 years

Lone Ranger

The writing is on the wall… Facts dont lie.

Sauron

Fact is about history, hence something that already happened. Something you expect in future is not a fact, you can call it prediction, fortune, expectation, guess. but not a fact

Lone Ranger

U.S. never was in such dire situation not even during the great depression.

Sauron

Same wishful thinking for 80 years. never gets old I guess. and when someone says that well how about us? Medvedev will come saying, “well there is no money, but you hold on”:)))) Not a country but a comedy show, with dumb audience:))

Lone Ranger

Like I said you cant relate to the past on this one, since it never happened before. Russia is fine, they have a trade surplus if $200billion a year, low debt around 12% debt to GDP ratio and $600billion in Forex reserves. C

Sauron

Check the Soviet newspapers on how “tomorrow US will collapse”, that tomorrow never came though. you are repeating the same news, but the tomorrow still not even on its way. Ordinary Russians must be rich then, otherwise there is no point to have all that:)))

Lone Ranger

You are mixing up present with the past… Aside from that Im not Russian, and its not Russia that is saying that but western experts… U.S. is on lifesupport since 2007, gradually getting worse…

Sauron

I am relating the past stories with same current stories

Lone Ranger

No relation tho. One was propaganda other is fact based.

Sauron

complete analogy

Lone Ranger

Done.

Sauron

im glad you agree

Lone Ranger

Im glad you too agree.;)

Sauron

Never said you were russian

Sauron

wealth distribution is getting more uneven in US thats for sure, but that in no way means a collapse of the economy. Middle class american is till better off than upper class russian, just an example, still not saying that u r russian:))))

Lone Ranger

Middle class America is toast. Russians are living better nowdays. They have universal healthcare, low debt. 40million Americans face eviction, 60million have no healthcare, 200million have only partial healthcare. 27 tent cities across the U.S…

Sauron

they can hardly buy a bottle. u seem to be high

Lone Ranger

Avg debt per capita in the U.S. is $65,000… 40 million face eviction. Only 80million out of 330mil have proper healthcare… 27 tent cities, drug epidemic, crime epidemic, yep they are toast, on the edge of a full blown civil war.

Sauron

im talking about Russians, don’t evade the questions. truth might hurt but still better than a lie

Lone Ranger

Avg debt per capita in Russia is $6000

Sauron

not debt, you dont live off debt:)))

Lone Ranger

Tell that to the U.S…. Most indebted nation ever. At least till hyperinflation kicks in…

Lone Ranger

U.S. doesnt have an economy left. Its smoke amd mirrors.

Sauron

its called 5th industrial revolution. you don’t see it but its there

Lone Ranger

In China…

Sauron

China is still on 4th. Top 10 were South Korea, Singapore, Germany, Japan, Sweden, Denmark, USA, Italy, Belgium and Taiwan. But that was 3 years ago, not sure who is now. But not yet China. You cannot be automated and skilled at the same time.

Lone Ranger

China is number one by gdp ppp and production and exports. Sorry to dissapoint you…

Sauron

Talking about automation of industry mate. Not PPP

Lone Ranger

They have that too. Russia as well. But its restricted. You first have to build enough automated factories if you dont do it smart than a lot if people will lose their job yet the automated factories wont be ready to supply them.

Sauron

“They have that too”? Minzuri can have a cooking machine at home, but it will not make Zimbabwe a 5th industrial revolutionized country.

Lone Ranger

Did you really compare China to Zimbabwe…? Are you aware the U.S. is running an $800 billion trade deficit to China? U.S. is hopelessly behind the curve both against the EU and Chin.

Sauron

its called an analogy

Lone Ranger

Its called soros twister…

Sauron

and its about your example not china zimbabwe difference. you are lost in the context

Lone Ranger

Nope, you are. Nice magic wand projection tho…

Sauron

having automated plants doesn’t make a country a automated industry. how many they have. in percentage are they in line with the developed world? these are the questions you need to research.:)))

Lone Ranger

Thats what I said. You cant switch overnight. You have to set up the new infrastructure before you can switch or you end up like China during the great leap or Khmer Rogue in Cambodia.

Sauron

right now China is on the 4th. thats what i said. before you stated deviating to PPP:))))

Lone Ranger

4th what?

Sauron

industrial revolution level

Lone Ranger

They are number one. Most things are made in China. Can tbe U.S. or Italy build a full sized hospital in 2weeks? China can. They can build a big city from scratch in 4 years. U.S. would need 20 years for the same. Dont underestimate them.

Sauron

Industrial Revolution level 1?

Lone Ranger

Tech/production level. Nobody can produce as much and as fast as China.

Sauron

thats 4th

Lone Ranger

Truth hurts, try to handle it…

Sauron

I have seen those empty cities, remarkable.

Lone Ranger

You think they build it for fun? Think about it harder…

Sauron

i did. still nothing.

Lone Ranger

Too bad…

Sauron

Not designed in China. So China is 4th not 5th

Lone Ranger

Many things are designed in China. Aside from that is something American if it was designed by foreigners. Most of silicon valley is run by China and India. Jet engines and jets in the U.S. are mainly done by BAE systems and MTU Aero a German and a British company subcontracting to Lockheed and Boeing.

Sauron

None of those companies are Chinese

Lone Ranger

Maybe not. But they are run by them. They have the data, the stocks, do you think its a coincidence Trump started a trade war? He knows China is putting the U.S. into the grinder. Silicon valley, housing matket, Hollywood, ports, Panama Canal, all owned by China.

Sauron

China is run by those companies? i dont think so

Lone Ranger

The opposite. China is running them under the table.

Sauron

It is. never said it isn’t. read the comments before responding

Lone Ranger

I did.

Sauron

yet, memory span of a fish proved stronger

Lone Ranger

Sounds like Jens…

Sauron

attention span?

Lone Ranger

Your trolling…

Sauron

but still deviated from the topic.

Lone Ranger

Did I? Every coin has two sides…

Sauron

when its heads its head, doesn’t matter if you want to flip it

Lone Ranger

You have to know whats on the other side…

Sauron

don’t your face a coin. im sure its fine

Lone Ranger

Was that in english…?

Sauron

more like ringlish

Lone Ranger

Oy gevalt…

Sauron

exactly, economy didn’t leave anywhere

Lone Ranger

Only to the drainage…

Sauron

Drainage systems I think is one of the best inventions ever. Cities would never be this size otherwise.

HiaNd

All this US posturing and poking the bear will rise Russian readiness to the highest possible level that exists and force them to reinforce their already extremely strong defenses to the maximum. Kaliningrad and Crimea are already turned into the fortresses this will make them to do the same with the rest of the Western border. In the case of incident it will be Russian troops invading Baltics and Ukraine before West even has time to react and mobilize troops. All this NATO troops will be annihilated with tactical nukes in their bases already. They are US sacrificial lamb anyways, put there for that purpose.

Антон С

“And world will wait if US and NATO countries will engage in MAD.”

1939 year shows us – it won’t happen. Western soldiers have no wish to die for Poland.

HiaNd

I was NOT talking about “wishes” of US soldiers of course. Many of them are brain washed and programed enough to press one stupid button when ordered to do it .

Jens Holm

Of course the americans military forces educated to do their jobs well.

It would be fun they instead said: What about a nice game of chess :)

And Putins: We will have sugar in Our tea before we do anything…

Jens Holm

Thats not about wishes and the world has changed. Some might have forgotten, thats France and UK made a lt of poison after WW1 and by that more or less made Hitler.

This ois not about Poand at all. Its about including or not. Now Germany is well included and also divided into a federation.

Cromwell

They may not have a choice,it will only take some dumb SOB in Poland or the Baltics to cause a incident on the Russian border and Russia could come out all guns blazing.

Jens Holm

Those are made to fortresses because of the old propagansized agenda. I feel fine they come from less trust and lies, but its very visible they are afraid loosing the good old ineffective control freak days and has forgotten, they has a wall themself west of Berlin.

New Russia of 1992 had no infrastructure for not getting plundered and partly did. Russians stil dont educate people to modern effective systems driven by the market. They also still are not able to handle that by taking in a lot of needed tax for the state. We have an income tax system, which dont exist in Russia. We also tax the stony rich ones much better.

There is not “all this Nato troops” at all. But it makes sense a higher population including more members to Nato as well as EU also makes the Organisations bigger. They are members because they hope and work for economical growth and that of course should be protected. Therefore it also make sense to Nato goes east and those spountries do contribute with solduers as well as space closer to the new border.

I and we dont see them as lamb. To me they are regained neocoloialisme having rights to decide things by themselves by their own population. As danes we always before the communisme expansion has had good connection with Poland, Finland the small ones.

We have been united with Tzar Russia agains Sweden and also Preussen many time. We have given name to Russia as well as the last Tzarmother and Tzarin to the last Romanov was a Danish princess. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d17182f3ce0f1ef99b156d9fa511fcdfb51ab68d9618916cd40d9165625aeac4.jpg

I never liked that Tzarsystem, but we not enemies to Russia.

Cromwell

If they attack Russia again i hope they totally destroy the Baltics within 24 hours.

HiaNd

Fuck I , think that if ever that war starts we are all dead. Russia has repeated 100 times already that they will IMMEDIATELY use tactical nukes in war if attacked by NATO. It is published as official whit paper about Russian defense strategy.

Doom Sternz

There is substantial evidence indicating that the Poles had been participating actively in the formation of death squads in Ukraine since September 2013. Also there is substantial evidence that the Right Sector militants were trained by Donald Tusk’s government in Poland two months in advance of what was obviously a pre-planned coup. The Polish press even published the role of Donald Tusk’s government in preparing the coup where the Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski invited 86 members of the Right Sector to the police training center in Legionowo. There, they received four weeks of intensive training in crowd management, person recognition, combat tactics, command skills, behavior in crisis situations, protection against gases used by police, erecting barricades, and shooting, including the handling of sniper rifles. Donald Tusk, who is now President of the European Council, whose grandfather, Josef Tusk, served in Hitler’s Wehrmacht, has consistently demanded that the Kiev regime imposed by the US and EU deal with the Donbass people brutally, “as with terrorists”.

The Maidan demonstrations in early 2014, which led to the overthrow of the legally elected Ukrainian government witnessed an estimated 15,000 people marching in celebration of Stepan Bandera’s 105th birthday. The neo-Nazi Svoboda Party along with the Fatherland Party of Yulia Tymoshenko both supported this commemoration of the former Nazi ally and war criminal. In the late 1930s Stepan Bandera became the leader of the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) was the name of the Ukrainian partisan paramilitary force that arose from the OUN and fought Soviet armies in the 1940s. During World War II the OUN worked with the German occupation and participated in the massacre of Jews, Poles, and Russians.

In 1943 Bandera’s followers massacred 70,000 Poles the majority of whom were unarmed men, women, and children. This mass killing took place in Volyn, Western Ukraine. In the spring and summer of 1943 peasants of Volyn under the leadership of the Galician intelligentsia using bullets, axes and other improvised means assassinated tens of thousands of Poles living in the villages and towns of the region. The political leadership of the OUN had suddenly realised that the Germans might lose the war. So because of the presence of the Polish population the political leadership had simply decided to get rid of that population to prevent Poland’s claim to Volyn. By 1945 the OUN had, in Eastern Galicia, killed 130,000. Many people had their eyes gouged out and were then hacked to death. After WWII the OUN kept fighting against the forces of the USSR and People’s Poland until 1949.

cechas vodobenikov

13 berkut melitsia were murdered at maidan by gruzian snipers paid by the CIA—using NATO bullets

Doom Sternz

Brian Boyenger was a US sniper in Mariupol, Ukraine spearheading neo Nazi’s with the ethnic cleansing of Donbass. He was located on the frontline in Mariupol where the Nazi battalion “Azov” and right sector fascists were continuing the genocide. He must be arrested and tried for murder. I would like to know his history of trips to Ukraine, was he there in February 2014, and did he shoot police and civilians in the Maidan?

On July 15, 2015, the prosecution made public in court for the first time its charges alleging that two arrested members of the Berkut special company massacred 39 out of 49 killed protesters on February 20, 2014. However, the prosecution’s case unraveled on July 17 when the brother of one of the victims stated during his questioning by the prosecutors that Andrii Saienko was killed not from Berkut positions but from a top floor of the Maidan-controlled Hotel Ukraina.

The prosecutors and relatives of some of the victims reported during the trial that technical expert reports in the investigative file established that Saienko and at least 9 other protesters were killed from the same exact 7.62mm caliber weapon. This revelation alone means that a significant proportion of the protesters were shot from this Maidan-controlled hotel, since this caliber bullets were extracted from bodies of 16 protesters.

Assuming a sniper rifle was used the following is the available weapons; Remington Semi Automatic Sniper System, USA, M110 Semi Automatic Sniper System, USA, M2010 Enhanced Sniper Rifle, USA,

The failure of the media to report the striking new revelations from the ongoing trial suggests that the misrepresentation in Ukraine and the West of the Maidan mass killing is driven not by lack of information but by politics.

Lone Ranger

Azov nazis and their baltic and usa nazi toyboys will pay for this a very heavy price. They already do…

Cromwell

https://youtu.be/p1V8zrn5U1M?t=15 Remember this,Sergei Pashinsky seen leaving Maidan with a rifle in his car,also there were reports of those snipers said to be Georgian and Polish leaving the hotel with large bags.

AM Hants

Do you remember the ‘Gosh’ telephone call between Catherine Ashton, the EU Foreign and Defence Agency Minister and the Estonian Prime Minister. When he told her there were snipers, as was confirmed by a Ukrainian Dr on the scene?

Plus the Georgian snipers who admitted being contracted, by Saakashvili, to help out with kick starting The Maidan’?

Then you have the Crimea Putin Documentary’ and seriously ‘must see’, but, also mentions events of The Maidan’.

AM Hants

There is an old article that might interest you. Decent comments.

‘American Ex-Parateooper Joins Georgian Legion Fighting In Ukraine’. Information in article, rather than where or how it is sourced. GT Georgia Today site.

Lone Ranger

And around 200 protesters. Confirmed by local medics and the Estonian foreign minister who was in Kiev at the time.

Zionism = EVIL

Historically, the dumbass Pollacks are the dumbest cunts on earth and there are more Pollack jokes than even Yid ones.

Paul

Uncle relax don’t stress yourself, Israel is coming for your Shia ass soon ;)

Rhodium 10

Israel fear Hezbollah..otherwise they dont withdraw IDF troops from lebanon border to avoid attacks…just would wait an attack to invade lebanon and Fight vs Hezbollah..but IDF know that like in 2006 the Jews army would be defeated!

AM Hants

Wasn’t Tusk’s grandfather in the SS?

AM Hants

Brilliant and highly informative comment.

Radoslaw Sikorski, whose wife is a member of Integrity Initiative, along with Bill Browder. Doesn’t she also sit on the board of the US Government Funded NED, regime change organisers, as well as a member of the Atlantic Council. Going back to her hubby Radoslaw, he was one of the EU witnesses, when President Yanukovich signed the agreement to stand down. He would stand down, provided there was a peaceful transition, plus he was happy to revert back to the 2004 Constitution and bring forward the elections, due at the end of the year. Sikorski stood in for Catherine Ashton, the EU Foreign and Defence Agency Head. Catherine Ashton, the ex-social worker, ex-lover of the UK Communist Party, good friend of Blair and ex-CND Treasurer, who for some reason got the EU position. How does a social worker end up leading the EU Foreign and Defence Policy? Why do so many nuclear peace activists end up working their hardest to get a nuclear world war, owing to where they go next?

Anyway, German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeirer, Radoslaw Sikorski and Laurent Fabius, French Foreign Minister, were witnesses for the EU. Ukraine were represented by Vicky Nuland’s boxer, Vitally

God

As a Spanish, I’d love and vote to see my country out of NATO

HiaNd

No need for that. NATO will either fall apart after implosion of the dollar or self destruct if Turk – Greek war starts.

Ivan Freely

Brussels will ensure you never get that vote. You’d have to start a rebellion to make that happen.

Jens Holm

It would be strange if an organisation supported a country left – haha – Rue I see none of that.

occupybacon

France did it once then they wanted back in

HiaNd

Ever since de Gaule was removed from power by early version of the color revolution (organized by State department as hippy rebellion)

The France’s independence went down the drain . Since then they had only US puppets as Presidents.

Jens Holm

Thats not how it was and is.

France lost WW2 in the hard way and was split up betwen Nazi-fascist and Communist. DE Gaulle by that was a non elected Leders for, what´was left of the French Empire.

So to connect the french as mush as possible he and his spoke for Fench nationalisme and by thats reduced the right and left wings and by that got a majority for Fance very independent – even weal.

So their membership to Nato never was full and he was agresiv neutral to fx USA as Leader of Nato.

He also was a mainmaker of the start for peace and good relation, which grew well and todays EU.

He lost an election and was replaced because he wanted to decentralise France. As we see in their election systems fx Le Pen dont get as many votes as they should have because of the kind of Paris as a center for too much.

I can relate directly to how Turkey by Erdogan does it. The Turks by Kemal was very much inspired by the classic system, BUT the strong center state has to be strong in the corners and France as welll as Erdogans are not.

It has itsproblems decentralicing local matters almost 100%. We have. We see those problems but also see we by decentralizing so the state in center is only 50% solves a lot more better even we loose some. Its like gettin 7 bananas, because You give 3 and the 3 was not rotten and the 7 are just as fine as them.

occupybacon

That was a communist rebellion, many university lecturers in France back then were openly communists and supporters of the USSR. Some of them admited later that were bribed by KGB by buying the entire circulation of their shitty pro-marxist groups. Probably Americans were involved too somehow but the students were reds.

Jens Holm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_68

It was about removing old static no good symbols and get some fresh air.

A lot of that change being revolution for many at that time today is very normal. More educate much more and work. Woen does. Better contraseption made the women more independent. The vomen got their own salry and bank accounts and all Young ones should learn driving cars.

At the educations as well as at home, we and they actually got influence as students. Theprofessors were not old and always the beste deciders. They too often told, we could not because of traditions.

We dressed is many new versions from Chairman Mao to flippers. We demanded new radio and TV channels with Rockmusic and could play loud at home, because the producers were allowed to see us.

Thst how the rebillion or uprice was. We got a lot of new things for us and our countries even some also was big mistakes.

In DEnmarkl we fx got a very good sign as a social security system. But it was overwhelming unrealistic, so we had to reduce parts of it very much several times. After many years we now has reagined the many good ideas in a much better way – and not unimportant – has money for that service.

An idea which pays of very well is You can beccome a high aeducated for free. No money for school, no money for education, not tax for money You take in by work in this period, You get paid so You can have a minimum room for studying and You can do supplement by cheep loans.

We get much more good and very good taxpayers even we als loose money from the ones, which dont get their education and a job for it.

And we try to do the same thinking for crime. We pay a lot toavoid people ar getiing criminals and even if they do, we continue. We reduce the numbers of criminals making bad things the rest of their life and by that can fokus better on the no changeable. Compared to many others we have replaced police with socialworkers.

We are in the lower end about crime, but its just as good or better then what may coutries have. No one can say its a fiasco. We also treat prisoners as nice as we can. They are a part of us and we insist. Well as written above. We do have hardliner criminals as well.

Cromwell

Even in the war the US hated De Gaule because he was too independent,they liked the Vichy scum more.

HiaNd

True….Not only US but UK also

God

did they? I thought they only discussed the posibility

occupybacon

They did.

Jens Holm

I confirm that. They were more then 90% out instead of being about 80% in.

Jens Holm

Fine with me, but the majority is not Yours for the moment. .

cechas vodobenikov

Poland needs the money—sexually repressed US soldiers need to rape polish females

HiaNd

Since almost all younger Poles have escaped to the West…. All that is left to rape are old Polish grannies and younger women from Western Ukraine (courtesy of neo-Nazi regime who has provided misery in Ukraine and have made out of them cheap labor force) who are working in Poland.

Knowing US LGBTQ 60 gender reputation they are not only after “females”. Everybody including children, pets and domestic animals should be protected also.

Антон С

Local monuments under the danger also. Brave yankees loves to pee at the monument of independence in Riga.

HiaNd

They must mark their territory like all other dogs…..

Jens Holm

Maybee Latvia should change the rules and be semilar to USA. In most states You get arrested and has to pay a lot. They dont like naked even its a small one.

Jens Holm

EU by law has free entrece for laubor. By that unimplymensts are solved some by jobs, where people instead send home AND Poland also get the biggest investments to build up their own economy and does imprivements.

And Yes, we in EU by that has given many from Ukraine and Belarus jobs. Whats wrong in giving jobs. Furtermore parts of the reasons for that kind of pendling is, that USSR moved Poland west by taking land, which was polish as well as all were killed.

So that doing the job very much is among cousisns. And the tide has changed. Many more poles actually now can find better jobs and prefare that. In DEnmark we do have settlers, which intnsions are to stay.Thats no brain drain. Here they all are in the lower paid group, work hard and we are numberr one in the world for low corruption.

And Yes, those poles left cheep paid jobs or none. So Ukrainiens and Belarussians must be even lower paid or in unimpyment hardly with any security by the state they live in.

And I know that area very very very well. Many poles came from Galizia poland and around there, because they were starving poor living in the past. They were known as “Potato Poles” and after soe diskrimination aginst them here i denmark, they now all are danes. Some still are catholics and Christmas is not the same day, but we never see them as poles.

We got some from the Jarusselsky period. My friends wife was from Warshaw and even they were married there, she could no go to Denmark after many papers were signed and corruption being paid in all levels. It took 3 months and mpre page.

Thats hostage taking. They did reative fine here and now has 3 children and also some grandchildren. New married they left Poland in a rain of teargas from Poazetsno in Warsham and were lucky to escape between police gangs with attack batons.

And I dont care about LGBTQ whatever as long as they dont bother med. They dont. YOU make contrast to make artificial contrast. Those few I know has good jobs, and pays a lot of tax, because they have no children.

Your version for children, pets and domestic animals are not by them and are for jail and pay here too. Most child abuse is among family and affiliated, so as a minimum the 2 of 3 is family. You seemes to prefare hissen “We are family”

Lone Ranger

Autistic Poletards will fail as usual. Respect to the non retarded Poles, I know they are out there.

Dick Von Dast'Ard

The cabal (London and NYC finaciers) backed the National Socialists in Germany in the 30’s and it now looks like they are doing the same with regards Poland in the 20’s.

Seems like the main objective in both cases is attempting to destroy Russia as a sovereign state.

verner

poles, the stupid twats, are volunteering to become a non-existing country again, for the third time. neighbouring countries would welcome the chance to gobble up a bit of land at the expense of poland. only dumbed down poles would strive for such an outcome.

Fog of War

Is the government stupid twats or the people ? How is Poland different from any other nation that is Zio occupied ? Do the French people really have a voice in their governments ? The British ? The Italians ? Are they all twats also ?

verner

I see you’ve had little if any intercourse with poles and if you had you would realize I include each and every one of them twats in the concept stupid beyond words.

SnowCatzor

Funny how their map of ‘Europe’ includes non-NATO members like Switzerland, Serbia, Ireland, Sweden & Finland but cuts Russia off. The NATO alliance is a gross perversion of Europe’s priorities that allies mainland Europe with it’s historic (and current) enemy Turkey. All because Washington (and to a lesser extent: London) has a pathological hatred of Russia.

This current geopolitical alignment is so disgustingly backwards and only encourages the likelihood of war.

Atlanticism is cancer.

Jens Holm

You are partly correct. Those countries are affiliates but they do pratice with Nato and probatly not with Russia. By that Ukraine and Belarus also are buffers and not Nato.

UK has had no bad relations to Russia for centuries. They systematicly has traded a lot of food, wood for shipsbuilding, fur for their army and soldies as well as materials for clothe and ropes.

They made Arcangles not far from Murmansk repalcing it. The trade at Riga was very very big. Thats continued after WW1. UK also did their part of the Lend and lease to russia giving them what they had, which mainly was old weapons.

Later in WW2 they gave spitfires to the Russian Caucasus front to.

The bad relations was made by Stalin ad maybee Churchil during and after WW2. In a historical pespective communisme by that hardly is a comma unless someone in Russia insist in bad relations.

Veritas Vincit

There are various developments that have significant implications when considered collectively. These include recent threats by Georgian officials of approaching military operations to forcefully integrate the region of South Ossetia [1].

Violations of the US-NATO coup installed Ukrainian regime are progressing towards a new stage of warfare. US-NATO-Ukraine military exercises simulating offensive operations against Crimea indicate preparations for war against the Russian Federation.

US-NATO pursuit of nuclear primacy involving the staged deployment/development of offensive and missile interception capabilities adjacent to the Russian Federation (and the PRC) are moving towards another missile crisis [2].

In relation to broader developments, the escalating US hybrid war against the PRC will likely result in eventual in more significant retaliatory measures with reports indicating the economic structural failure of the US (currently deferred by the extension of unserviceable levels of debt) will in the process be accelerated. A kinetic stage of conflict is also almost inevitable as US-DPP moves towards the partition of Taiwan are moves towards war against the PRC.

Turkey and Greece (and involved allies), Pakistan and India, are approaching war scenarios, a hybrid war is being waged against Venezuela, the proxy war/conflict in Libya is developing, while the US and Israel (and other nations) are in an active phase of conflict against Syria with Israel preparing for a direct kinetic stage of conflict against Lebanon/Hezbollah and Iran, etc……..

It should be obvious to any observer what is likely gradually unfolding. In this context, the acceleration of military cooperation/coordination particularly between the Russian Federation, the PRC and Iran should be considered as a priority for these nations.

References: 1. “On Thursday, [head of the Georgian Labor Party, Shalva] Natelashvili spoke to Georgian journalists at one of the sections of the central Georgian highway, a few hundred meters from South Ossetia, and promised that after the October 31 parliamentary elections in Georgia,“ the current pro-Russian Georgian government ”will fall. “We will soon raise the flag at the Russian military base,” he said. (Georgia announces [planned] seizure of Russian military base in South Ossetia, Avia-Pro, 04/09/2020)

2. “The present anti-missile systems in Eastern Europe are based on the universal platform MK-41 and its technical specifications allow launching “Tomahawk” missiles [based on compatible MK-14 launch canisters] with a range of 2 500 km at any point of the Russian European territories in violation of the prohibition of the contract. There is hardly anything that threatened world security as much as this move of Washington. Even the Cuban Missile Crisis was not charged with such a high risk level. People do not understand how potentially dangerous the situation really is. “The world is pulled into an entirely new dimension, while Washington pretends that nothing happens,” Russian President, Vladimir Putin, said, adding that Western officials “blur the eyes of the news media” which in turn misinforms their audiences.” (On the Verge of a Major War: Is There a Pilot in the Cockpit?, Southfront, 17/10/2016)

3. “if data on Russia-NATO power balance at the Western direction is analyzed, as well as military activity build-up rate at our borders, scale of combat equipment deployment, if the grade of Russia’s demonization is estimated, one can say that preparation to a real war is taking place. [Such] acts are usually undertaken at the forefront of a war [and it is evident] the US is preparing for a [potential] nuclear conflict……” [Colonel General Leonid Ivashov, President of the International Centre of Geopolitical Analysis]

4.“Russia does not want war and does not intend to start a war. But today, Russia can see that the explosion of a global war is almost unavoidable and is prepared and will continue preparing. Russia does not want a war but is not afraid of a war. Those who get Russia involved in this process will learn the real meaning of pain”. [Vladimir Putin] (At the Threshold of a Third World War, Southfront, 12/09/2016)

Jens Holm

I dont buy much of that unless its printed on toilet paper:(

Veritas Vincit

– “The unleashed power of the atom has changed everything save our modes of thinking and we thus drift toward unparalleled catastrophe” (A. Einstein).

It is unfortunate you are unable to reply in a mature, intelligent or meaningful manner. It is also unfortunate you do not understand what is gradually unfolding. When the many active and approaching wars become broadly recognised as one, you will understand. If I am wrong, you have little cause for fear. If I am correct, you will have cause for concern.

Communicating with fools is a waste of time and I have no more time to waste on you.

Jens Holm

Hens are brighter then You. We kill many of them and even take their eggs.

All You Simpletons can debate about is how weapons makes good solutions.

It is allowed to make an oppinion telling deescaltion in minds and weapons is mpore relavnt then ever in that Bolsjeci collapse.

Russia came from a not reformed Tzar collapse. That was replaced by the non reformed Bolshevic collpased in the late days even runned by semiles beeing heroes in WW2.

So when do You ever learn.

Its as You have censured Your Peter the Great away. He did see the world because he was able to see his country was living in the dark.

It was see, understand and by that be able to do, which is a classic way to learn or at least copy good parts well and later in even innovate them well. His best example might be his army. Thye became winners and the nay did as well. Those were vital this days …

So instead of all that toiletpaper crap by You and Sol “Victim” You should find the many other solutions and put less nukes and warfare in them. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/47f5ce7f327b80346c3be63b6e95417a8756f3cadfad04bac05eb32020a4a214.jpg

And if You dont like to copy him, You can take in Catherine 2. She mingled very well with macho men and also learned many of them a lesson.

But Peter cheated too. In Our Roskilde Cathedral, where are royalties and burried, we can see how tall the different kings visiting us was. He is the tallest, but we now know he had high heels.

It was 1716. He was 2 meter but it says 2008. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/47352fe6a1c877a060807b0aead705f3d83967e30b2a593ad52a8ee84077fda0.jpg

Sol Invictus

War? Not really. Conventional war or even a limited conflict is almost impossible without escalating quickly, and why would they risk a a complete nuclear annihilation? No. The ultimate goal is to destroy Russia from within like 1917. Kerensky/Lenin or 1990. Gorbachev/Yeltsin. Break Russia into zillion shitty vassal countries and exploit cheap resources. Something like Africa. Military pressure is just to force Russia to spend more money on defense. Poland is ideal for this purpose of military camp – utterly indoctrinated and trained by Vatican for centuries to hate Russia and serve their western masters. Now they are creating another Poland in Ukraine. A cordon sanitaire (as French called after WW1).

They obviously plan to use Navalny like Lenin back in 1917, to start a coloured revolution in Moscow. Unfortunately, it looks like Putin is losing popularity in Russia, new generations of young Russians are increasingly brainwashed by western (anti)social media, just as their western counterparts who worships BLM and kneel before globalist masters. Stupid kids and dumb bimbos from Facebook and Instagram are more dangerous than NATO bombers…

Veritas Vincit

Despite efforts to restrict/contain conflicts between nuclear armed powers to a proxy warfare/hybrid warfare format, direct kinetic warfare often results from a process of escalation (being a feature of conflict). Uncompromising positions and intensifying adversarial actions in the form of brinkmanship will eventually exceed limits of restraint.

For example, US-DPP moves towards the partition of Taiwan will likely trigger a military response as efforts to change the status of Taiwan represents an unacceptable security threat to the PRC (Taiwan already developing close proximity fast strike missile potential). Similar US-NATO moves to achieve such potential against the Russian Federation also creates an unacceptable resultant security threat.

While no party seeks a conflict resulting in a nuclear exchange, it is nonetheless a logical outcome of a significant military escalation scenario. For example, the detection of incoming missile would necessitate a decisive response (limited response time) as the identification between conventional or nuclear warheads cannot be determined. This scenario has been identified as one of many potential triggers of a nuclear warfare event.

Fog of War

” The Duda administration has made a point of glorifying Polish resistance to the Nazis, but has underplayed Polish crimes like at Jedwabne in July 1941, where Poles rounded up and killed their Jewish neighbours. ” In its defense, the Polish government wanted to exhume the ” bodies ” and investigate this ” tragedy” to see what really occurred. However, they were vehemently opposed by Jewish groups. I wonder why ?

Fog of War

” When the BBC interviewed a photo-journalist who had been arrested by Lukashenko’s police, he happened to be a Pole with a neo-Nazi background. ” A “Pole ” with neo-Nazi leanings is not really a Pole. It should be logically obvious.

George King

Pictures worth more than a thousand words! Idiots on the left in picture (Polish with new war toys and $ and smiles) and fu*ked Americans on the right with not only having to pay for this abomination s*it hole with taxes but also their lives and their families future wearing grimaces.

Harry Smith

They already started to wash brains. Just look at the trailers of the new computer game named “iron harvest”. Especially I do recommend to watch the trailer for Russians and Germans.

AM Hants

You can always guarantee Poland to kick start a World War.

peter mcloughlin

The original Cold War is different in one way from the “new Cold War” – the ending. There is an assumption in NATO capitals that this is purely a re-run. This is a dangerous illusion, and clear from the pattern of history. What is developing is a very hot war, the world war the superpowers managed to avoid between 1945-1991. https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

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