Protests Ramp Up In Gaza And Jordan Following “Deal Of The Century” Announcement

So? It won’t help the Palestinians. Because they give similar importance to minor symbolic things like that, they will remain losers.

Losers who refuse to sell out their souls in betraying the millions of Palestinians who are refugees from Israel’s creation and under all Western deals recently proposed would have no right of return or compensation for what has been stolen from them. Most people around the world would have caved in, sold their brothers down the river for any deal that brought them some relief. They have lost in this conflict until now, but my mother was born in 1942, when Jews were a considerable minority inside Palestine and there was no Jewish state. I just had dinner with her. In the space of a single lifetime Israel was created, sponsored by a superpower and has grown ascendant in the region. But seventy five years from now, things can be dramatically different. Turkey and Egypt have better than average chances of throwing off the shackles imposed on them by AmericaWorld(TM) and with a combined population of better than 250 million could put Israelis into reservations, or send them back to Europe. Things change.

Well maybe. But if they ever tried that, it would spell the end of both countries in a blaze of radioactive glory. So back to your pipe dream and stop wishing mass death in so many millions of people. Israel is there to stay. But most likely, especially with Israel’s natural gas and advanced world class technology, both Turkey and Egypt will want to make an economic accommodation with Israel, the Palestinians be damned. And you damn well know that is a way more likely future.

It won’t be 75 yrs…lmfao!

10 years tops. Simply because most of your citizens have dual citizenship and will not stay. Cmon brah, you know better. Lol Either you don’t read and have not much in the realm of strategy or demographics. Or simply you’re an idiot.

me too.

The Palestinians in the West Bank cannot obtain Israeli citizenship. They are still under occupation. This is one of the reasons why they should have their own state.

Nahhhhhhhh…this plan doesn’t annex enough areas with enough Palestinians to make a difference. And the Israeli Jews are smart enough to know not to annex it all without first making sure there won’t be many more non-Jewish Arab citizens. So forget your pipe dream.

As I said about some of your other posts, yit’re delusional.

Annexation means the end of Israel. Annexation will bring about an Arabs majority, and then Israel will be like Lebanon, Syria and Iraq. Another failed Arab state.

Total annexation will only happen with ethnic cleansing. But the Palestinian leadership and their enablers may yet make that acceptable by making war on Israel again. In that case, the Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza will have their second Nakba.

“Total annexation will only happen with ethnic cleansing.” – It can’t be done nowadays.

You are delusional.

So? So the IDF will put down any Arab revolt. You got that right.

Dont spoil two men discussion with insult their are debating professional to iron out differences in option irrespective of their supporting parties.

I think the extreme Israeli rightists want all of Israel / Palestine as the Palestinian jihadists want all of Israel / Palestine. Each one wants to subdue the other side.

It would be a country like Yugoslavia. I think it would be better to have two separate states.

Thank you wise idea base on situation on ground respected.

self inflicted gun shot wound. Implosion…civil strife…the end of zionism.

You do need an education. Most all the Ethiopian Jews are now citizens of Israel, some 100,000 or so, after being evacuated from Ethiopia, similar to the Yemeni Jews. Only a few thousand remain in Ethiopia. Oh, and most are actually not Jews but Christians. But there is growing political pressure to allow most to make Aliyah if they have family in Israel who are citizens. Try to get the simplest things correct before spouting.

I think the Palestinian leadership is afraid to make tough decisions. They seem unable to adapt to reality. Most Arab countries grew tired of them.

And that’s why they have turned to the Sunni Arabs’ greatest enemy, Islamist Shi’a Iran. And as always, they make the wrong choice that will only bring more suffering to their People.

True, Sunni Palestinian jihadists (Hamas and Islamic Jihad) are supported by Shiite jihadists (Islamic Jihadist Republic of Iran).

Undeniable fact and truth.In return their betray Iran to the core as Sunnis support ISIS.

The jihadists betray one another, this is not new. Hamas had offices in Damascus and when the civil war began they betrayed Assad / Iran and supported Sunni jihadists. Now Hamas and Iran are “friends” again.

Are their still friends after Soleimani betrayal after some Hamas and Iraqi USA puppets pass on coordinates to Israel.

Most Arab countries have been bought off to abandon them. The populations of said countries are still very much eager for justice in this fight. One day there will be justice, get used to it. It’s a matter of time. Israel can get ahead of the coming American cultural and economic collapse and cut a fair deal to protect their security or can try and keep all their vast stolen areas and be eclipsed by an aggressive blowback. In twenty years Turkey, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Iran will all be major nuclear powers with a combined population greater than 375 million people, and have both an economy and technology base far greater than Israel’s. We’ll see how tired the Arab electorate is then of the long story of Palestinian victimization.

All those others will not volunteer to be made into pretty glow in the dark dust and vapor for your delusional Palestinian pipe dreams. Get real.

I’m not Palestinian, I’m just someone who has little tolerance for rabid injustice. Volunteers won’t be needed. Israel’s technology and economic position will erode in the fullness of time and her weaknesses will grow. A failing, self absorbed America will leave Israel exposed and isolated. It’s not a fantasy, it’s inevitable. Israel’s advantages are temporary and an accident of history. In the long run Israel’s position in the region is not sustainable. The best path to long term security for Israel would be a fair deal with the Palestinians that removes the issue from the agenda of future regional powers who have incredibly expansive growth potentials.

Maybe. Please check back in a hundred or two hundred years. The world is full of what one or another think are injustices. The only way to satisfy all these conflicting injustices would be when all were dead. Get real and grow up. Oh, and if you missed it, the Palestinian leadership basically wants it all. They want Israel gone as well as the Jews. To them, anything less is an injustice.

Stow the crap. The widescale theft and terrorizing of the Palestinians to make way for the Jewish state is a matter of historic record. Menachim Begin wrote a book about his service in the Israeli wolves, strong arming Palestinians into selling or fleeing and killing those who resisted, including British servicemen enforcing migration law. My point, all grown up, thank you is that Israel faces a stark choice. Push her advantage now, bet that her dominance lasts in perpetuity, something that rarely happens in history, or do the honorable thing and compensate the Palestinians for the theft. Without some compensation, humility and honesty the motivation to resist and redress grievances will persist and Israel will have at best an uncertain future, surrounded by a growing Arab world and being steadily left behind in population, growth and technology. This future can come within decades of a change of direction in American politics, a near imminent certainty.

When you grow up in attitude you might be less delusional and not make projections and claims based on wishful thinking. What the hell makes you think Israel will have any significant lack of support in the US Congress any time soon? And what makes you think anything Israel did short of disappearing will satisfy those with attitudes like yours in the Arab world?

You truly are an idiot. I laid out in clear and concise language exactly what Israel could do to mitigate the damage they’ve caused to the people living in Palestine when they started and finished the Zionist project. There was nothing delusional about admitting the truth of what happened while both making amends and insisting on security for the Jewish people in Israel moving forward. There’s nothing not grown up about it, people like you just don’t care and don’t want to acknowledge the depth of the crime or recognize the rights of the victims. Or, how about this as a grown up solution? Israel gives up the two state solution, ends apartheid rule and all Palestinians, including the refugees get to vote in the next elections for Knesset. Now that would hit the trifecta; justice, democratic and all grown up, just for you.

Now you’re making sense!

This is what the Irans long term plan is…hit them legally. In international courts while galvanizing military superiority…Win win solution.

Palestinian leadership wants it all including Israel gone? Hmmm that doesn’t seem like too bad an idea at all. I like It! Great idea! Great plan! Now that’s a deal of the century!

Stealing land is injustice all day everyday. Don’t try to justify it with lukewarm philosophy Jake.

Israel is gone. You’re walking the ” Green Miles “…dead man walking. Jews only will exist as minority within Palestine. ..zionism is dead.

I said the exact same…20 years ago. Israel squandered it’s only viable option for legitimacy and endurance. The took the low road, paved by Bibi himself as exposed in the video of him stating such to an Israeli family, circa 1990’s. It’s over, the only option is for jews to exist as a minority within Palestine. Zionism is dead.

I agree. It’s a matter of time. A strong belief that overwhelming military advantage allows you to do whatever you want to people just breeds resistance. As time grows and the offense adds up, the resistance becomes more virulent. It’s an inevitable cycle. When the cycle of resistance is paired with the overwhelming advantage of demography it’s unstoppable. Just add time…

Just said the same thing in another reply down this thread.

Then you advise the Palestinians to wait another 20 years. Apparently people like you think 70 years is not enough.

History is replete with examples of much longer. Vietnam was a colony of France for a century before the Japanese liberation. Except for Dien Bien Phu the Vietnamese lost every battle with two Western military powers, France and the United States but preserved through a nightmarish situation to win both wars. The Russians paid off the Mongols/Tatars for two centuries to keep them out of the Muscovy forests before beating them in a pitched battle that led Russia all the way across the Urals to Kamchatka and beyond to Alaska and even coastal California. The Greeks lived under Ottoman rule for four centuries before reclaiming their country and the Mexica outlasted the conquest of the conquistadors of some three centuries, and today there is not a single statue of Cortez anywhere in Mexico City. If the cause is just and the theft unforgivable, fight on. The demographics will tilt economy and energy in favor of the colonized. It’s a template.

Mercy me, I left out the most salient example: the Crusader Kingdoms. Same territory, with the ancestors of Israel’s modern day enemies on one side and European Christian crusaders on the other. After two centuries of Crusader kingdoms, reinforced in waves from Europe, the natives won out. The decisive weapons: persistence, demography, and a local economy that the Crusaders couldn’t match, long term. Bursts of energy, patronage, and luck rarely mean a permanent advantage. In the end, entropy and events balance out the equation. Egypt this year is set to surpass a population of one hundred million. Turkey is rapidly expanding her technology base and is catching Israel, now being some decade or so behind. The difference is that the Turks are doing it sustainably and self reliantly whereas Israel has achieved her economic and military superiority by way of patronage of the United States. They’ll have to compete on their own someday soon. Make a deal and issue a mea culpa, ask for understanding. Compensate the Palestinians and maybe Israel can survive longer in this Era than the Crusaders did in theirs.

I always prefer peace over war. There are also many examples in history of nations that have disappeared and no longer exist. In business there is the concept of “cut your losses” – don’t look at what you have lost, look at what you might lose in the future if you continue the same way.

The reality is a slow but successful removal of the Palestinians from the land where they and their ancestors were born by a extreme right wing ideology called Zionism. How would you adapt? You definitely wouldn’t call yourself Free man.

There is an unhealthy equation in Israel / Palestine. On the one hand there is a very strong country and on the other there are a very weak conquered people. The trend is that Israel is growing stronger and the Palestinians are weakening, so the Palestinians should reach an agreement as soon as possible.

Yes, well, it’s an unfortunate business.

That’s because it is all theirs.

I agree. But what is the alternative? The Palestinians should start with something.

No. Does it matter? Can the Palestinians fight against the whole world? Even if Iran helps the jihadist Palestinians?

Can Israel fight against Hezbolla, SAA, Iraq and Iran? It won’t be long and we will know.

Syria and Iraq are failed states. Lebanon and Iran are facing bankruptcy. Why do you wish them to fight in Israel? Wouldn’t it be better to focus on rebuilding and strengthening their economy?

Why do you have a death wish for all those millions of Muslims? You must really hate Muslims.

The whole zionist world is what you meant.

Are you trolling? Have you seen who supports Trump’s peace plan? It is true that there has never been such great support for Israel. This is indeed a tragedy for the Palestinians.

Since the basic idea of Zionism is that there be a Jewish State where the Biblical State was is now recognized as Israel in international law and by both the UNSC and UNGA as well as most all countries in the world, most all the world is Zionist.

They are not fighting the whole world.

They are only fighting the USA.

The day Uncle Sam walks out on that whore Israel in search new tite booty, there’s gonna be a lot of dead Shlomos piling up at the exits of ben gurion airport …

Nahhhhhhhh…you posted irrelevant, ignorant, diversion.

Nahhhhhhhh…the Orthodox protesting in Israel in terms of the new peace plan are protesting any Palestinian State. The folk in the US you posted, are mostly non-Orthodox Jews with Bernie politics. Try to get the simplest things correct. However, there have always been a minority of Orthodox who for theological reasons don’t believe in a secular Jewish State. And only a very few of them ever protest about it. In any case, neither of these have a thing to do with the current situation. You should get an education before spouting.

Up to you to prove you are right, not me to prove you wrong. Anyway, you did not post a thing about the current Orthodox demonstrations in Israel about the new peace plan.

I think you guys are looking for this video of orthodox jews protesting against Israeli Zionism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVHnXn5Ipes

They are a fringe of a fringe of Ultra-Orthodox Jews numbering in the hundreds worldwide and politically meaningless.

The Jews in general are a “fringe of a fringe” of the global Slavoid community yet they exert a disproportionate influence on Western affairs. As did the Jews upon the Roman empire. Political meaninglessness has nothing to do with size. This fringe exposes the lie that jews somehow have a birthright to Palestine.

Thank atlease for responding.But I need to know were is kanaan the promised land.Which God promised to Israel.

There is no definitive area but was basically what was known as Phoenicia back then. It included areas of were Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan and Syria are today.

You have atlease tried your almost best thank you my opponent in coments.