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On March 5th, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Russian President Vladimir Putin met in Moscow to discuss the situation in Idlib, Syria.
???? President #Putin received President @RTErdogan at the Kremlin. The two leaders are discussing possible solutions to the #SyrianCrisis taking into consideration the aggravation of the situation in the #Idlib de-escalation zone ?https://t.co/WmgA7u59sF pic.twitter.com/Q6IMLZUqOR
— MFA Russia ?? (@mfa_russia) March 5, 2020
Prior to the meeting, the two leaders made the following statements:
Vladimir Putin:
“Good afternoon, Mr President.
Thank you for coming to Russia. As usual, we have things to discuss. The situation in the Idlib zone in Syria has deteriorated so much that we need to have a direct and personal discussion.
First of all, I would like to express our sincere condolences over the death of your military personnel in Syria. Loss of life is always a big tragedy.
Regrettably, as I have told you by telephone, nobody, including the Syrian military, was aware of your troops’ location. At the same time, there were casualties among Syrian servicemen as well. The Syrian army reported major losses.
Therefore, we need to discuss everything and analyse the current developments so that, first, this does not happen again and, second, that this does not damage Russian-Turkish relations, which I know that you value as well.
As you requested, we are ready to begin our talks one-on-one, and then our colleagues, who are with us in this room, will join us, if necessary.
Once again, welcome to Moscow.”
Recep Tayyip Erdogan:
“Yes, Mr President, I would like to also thank you for your welcome.
As you know, we were going to hold this meeting in Turkey but due to your ongoing work on constitutional amendments, we decided to accept your invitation and come here. Certainly, this meeting on Idlib talks is very important.
The situation in Idlib is indeed very tense. I know that the entire world is watching us today and I think that the action and decisions we take today will definitely have a mitigating effect.
This is a time when the relations between our countries have indeed reached a peak. Of course, this concerns the defence industry, trade and other areas; they continue developing.
We believe and say that we need to make progress in this area. In fact, this is our biggest task, to move forward and develop our relations. I believe we will succeed.
Once again, I would like to thank you for your welcome.”
Erdogan previously said he had asked Putin to “step aside” in Syria and allow him to deal with Damascus “face to face”, while Syrian President Bashar Assad stated in an interview just one day before the Putin-Erdogan meeting that the conflict between the Turkish people and the Syrian people is “illogical”.
Around the same time that the meeting was taking place, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo reiterated Turkey’s right to self-defense in connection with the situation in Idlib, during a press briefing.
“We are firmly convinced that our NATO partner, Turkey, has every right to defend itself against the risks created in Syria by Assad, Russians and Iranians,” said Pompeo, answering a question about how he assesses “the partnership between Russia and Turkey.”
He recalled that a few days ago, US President Donald Trump held talks with Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan. The US Secretary of State did not comment on the ongoing negotiations between the leaders of Turkey and Russia in Moscow.
“The Turkish government has requested a number of things, we are evaluating all these requests. Our team (the US State Department) together with the Department of Defense team are deciding how best to reduce violence and a larger world there and stop the ongoing large-scale humanitarian crisis,” said Pompeo.
Catherine the Great, served as empress of #Russia for more than three decades in the late 18th century. She captured lots of Ottoman territories.
LMAO, Russians never stop trolling.? pic.twitter.com/lKn2D0pQ3D— Majd Fahd ?? (@Syria_Protector) March 5, 2020
The two leaders spoke tete-a-tete for approximately 3 hours, and then they were joined by their respective delegations. The entire negotiation ended after 5 hours 40 minutes.
Erdoğan ve Putin başkanlığında Moskova'da yapılan heyetler arası görüşme sona erdi. Baş başa ve heyetler arası görüşmeler 5 saat 40 dakika sürdü.
— AA Canlı (@AACanli) March 5, 2020
The briefing, following the negotiations can be seen here:
Erdogan Invited Putin to Visit Turkey to Celebrate Anniversary of Bilateral Relations. Putin, on his part said that Russia, Turkey agreed on common document on settlement in Syria.
Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that he has negotiated an agreement to resolve the ongoing tensions in Idlib province with his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The two countries have agreed following “uneasy, but productive” talks that they should not reduce their efforts in the fight against terrorism.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan stated that his country will be sending additional forces to Idlib province under a new agreement with Russia, but that the status of Turkey’s Operation Spring Shield will be “changed”. Erdogan added that starting at midnight between 5 and 6 March a ceasefire regime will be established in Idlib for both Turkish and Syrian forces. At the same time, the Turkish president said that the army reserves the right to respond to any actions of the Syrian forces.
It includes the following items:
- The cessation of all hostilities along the existing line of contact from midnight on March 6th;
- Russia and Turkey create a six-kilometer-long security corridor north and south of the M-4 highway in Syria;
- Russia and Turkey agreed to begin joint patrols along the M-4 highway in Syria on March 15th.
“It is inevitable to establish a new status in Idlib after the sad events of the regime’s aggression targeting our soldiers,” President Erdogan said.
“The spirit of cooperation between us and Russia has made an unprecedented contribution to international efforts to end the conflict in Syria,” President Erdogan explained.
The entire document is to be published in English, Russian and Turkish “soon,” when more details will follow. It is showing, however, that a direct military intervention by Turkey is unlikely to work, and Erdogan went to the negotiating table.
The following map shows the gains and setbacks of Turkish forces and the “moderate opposition” have made since Turkish operation Spring Shield began.
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The new Turkish-Russian agreements have several important implications for the situation in Greater Idlib:
- Turkey declared that it will keep forces in the region (It cannot withdraw them because this will mean a total surrender and lead to a full-scale political crisis in Turkey itself), but officially accepted all the gains made by the Syrian Army since September 2018 (Sochi agreements). Earlier, the top Turkish leadership declared that the goal of the Turkish military operation in Idlib is to push the Syrian Army back from all this area.
- The Syrian Army kept control of the M5 highway and significantly improved its military position in the region.
- The terrorists, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham and other al-Qaeda groups, still remian outside the framework of the ceasefire deal and legal target in the framework of it.
- The agreed buffer zone (M4) is located inside the militant-held area. It can be created and joint patrols can be launched only if radical militants (all militants that control the area) are removed from there. It’s hard to imagine how Russian Military Police vehicles can be deployed there safely in any another case. Therefore, if militants are not removed, this will create conditions f0r another operation in the area fully in the framework of the agreement signed by Turkey.
- Turkey publicly accepted that it is not capable to defeat the Syrian Army without suffering unacceptable losses. So, Damascus and its allies officially won in this stage of the conflict.
- Both sides declared that they support a political solution of the conflict. However, the March 5 deal and another ceasefire are only a half measure to achieve this goal. A political solution is not possible as long as terrorist groups (backed by Turkey) present in the area. This creates conditions for further tensions and escalations.
On January 14, 2020, SF released the following video analysis on the Idlib ‘ceasefire efforts’ and their results for the anti-terrorism fight in Greater Idlib. It still remains useful to explain the situation in general:
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Turkey just annexed big part of Syria.Crazy shit!Lol
You shouldn’t be having rough sex only with you goats and sheep ! They are live beings also and they need hugs and kisses too ! Show them all your love you have for them ! Go out on the street and shout: I LOVE MY GOAT !!! Let whole world to know !
Butthurt? Too many Khomeinis got fried?
https://sputniknews.com/world/202003051078485714-russia-turkey-agree-on-common-document-on-settlement-in-syria—putin/
no it isnt, because after last ceasfire, syrians didnt had the control over m5 and saraqib, now syrians took a lot of new terirorys, i think fighting will begin in 1 or 2 months again
That’s what they thought after Sochi..
Erdogan came asking a full SAA retreat and he obtained just a pause (which is necessary for SAA also), and in exchange he must free the M4 highway and stop supporting the “terrorist groups” as they are designated by UNSC. If you saw his face, you saw a defeated man face.
You do realize Idlib is souveren territory of Syria and that Erdogan got to keep his control and army there and even retaliate with it,and Russia is to guarantee that?
Erdogan just got a delay before being wiped out. What happened in the past month will happen again in a near future.
of course erdogan will not be able to liberate M4 in all case he lose nobody noticed but he have to said is for syria full soverinty and he sign on this international agrement so in 10 days when M4 will be still closed russi will show the paper to turkish asshole anyway this is giving time for syrian army to consolidate gain and made disapear the turkish idea of the old adana agreement frontier …
Eh no, youunderstood it wrong baby. they are to retreat 6km north of the M 4 highway So they lost all the area in black (and rebels will have to leave the area incircled so they do not get trapped between Russians patrolling M4 and SAA). So erdogan who has been vowing to kick SAA out of the Idlib region will have even less territory then when he started in both idlib and Aleppo. Also this agreement is temporary. until a further solution to the terrorists is found per the sochi agreement or the Operation to cleanse the territory from terrorists will resume as said Lavrov and Putin Syrian Government has the right to defeat terrorism on its land and Russian will help them do it.
For now Syria Arab Army lost many people but liberated vast lands. and Turkey lost a lot of people equipment and gained nothing and Erdogan was proven a liar and impotent once again. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2505cb60f94fa11af3c97e7c113cc86e47f6c4d35e7125a517e5240a05d9ae5e.png
New “Olive Branch” zone. :) No,i got it very right.If you think that some foreign power giving some other foreign power right to drive along some road in your country is some kind of win for you,then you need a big hug. :)
US and Russia mutually have monitoring flights over each other’s airs … Russian also flies over European countries
Assad and SAA are insects, almost irrelevant to the balance of power. Probably were barely mentioned (if at all).
I did not see a defeated face but hurt face, and that is really danger. This animal can do something very danger as a revenge.
All his possible moves are well calculated. He’s in a zugzwang situation. He was given a rope to save his ugly face (a little bit) but no more than that. Giving up M4 must have been very painful for this cockroach.
He did sign, isn’t he? This meeting could have ended with a statement that more negotiations are needed. It means this is the best he could get and he really needed. Of course the peace won’t last, but now we can see the real balance of forces. And, of course, like Tudor Miron said, Putin gave him a chance to save his face. I bet he won’t use the chance.
“Ceasefire Begins At 00:01 March 6”
And breach of cease fire and new conflict begins by HTS attack At 00:02 March 6
It will hold. Putin will not have the ceasefire jeopardized after he apologized and successfully begged Sultan Erdogan for forgiveness.
Yes, in your parallel universe where Putin flew to Ankara asking for mercy for his soldiers hehe
Creature, what kind of joy is that – stating idiotic claims in the open? Why do you enjoy people thinking that you’re an idiot?
Because Mack Dane is a complete idiot, Tudor. :)
Apologized and begged ? delusional people. Erdogan said he will kick SAA out from idlib he did not. SAA won on the land and Putin won on the table. Erdogan realized nothing from what he promised. SAA realized most. Putin realized all. and Do not forget it is Erdo who went to Moscow to beg not the opposite. Russia and Syria were comfortable on the Land with what they achieved. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/80c53a762d3e23569e6933b9ba72dada1cadf471cd5457aea050cab30acfe2df.png
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1bfd6cf25203c502f7a5ef6e94e1263efe08f0210eaaf4a41055ccb1756f2097.png
Mac crap types shit yet again.
They explain Putins strategy well here. It works, so stop complaining about victory. It makes you look like a moron or a zio troll. I think you are a zio troll.
The picture looks awesome :)
I will trust Putin, sure that he knows very well what he is doing by agreeing with an evil being, as distrustful and treacherous as Erdogan, who, as always, will only use that ceasefire to resupply his terrorists and continue to arm them to the tooth . And once the Turkish puppets are in condition, we will see another powerful attempt to retake all the strategic territory lost so far, taking SAA by surprise, in full ceasefire. But I’m sure Russia will be ready and waiting for them too.
Syrians gained more teritory, then it had before sochi agreement, includin all m5 higway, which will help syrian armys logistics and economy
At what cost? And Turks get to keep their troops there.Its an de-facto annexation. ;)
Are you talking about real cost or Turkish-propaganda cost? These are two different things.
Ok,congrats on a new “Olive Branch” area of Syria :)
I don’t think the ceasefire will hold for long. Why are you so adamant on keeping the terrorists in Idlib. If you are Turkish and Muslim. Wouldn’t you want your brothers in Syria to live in peace and develop harmoniously? Having a good neighbourly relation will make trade increase. Economic development will make you and your neighbours prosper. What is this mentality where Muslims keep killing each other and get weaker and weaker by the day?
The wheels of fate spin slowly…
Just like the Wheels of the Taxman :)
“At what cost?”
The lives of Syrian, Russian and Iranian soldiers who are in Syria to fight jihadists not the Turkish army and certainly not NATO. Plus the cost of fuel and munitions used to kill Turks that can be spent on rebuilding Syria instead of fighting Turks.
Putin has intelligence that none of us keyboard warriors have access to. He know the state of Syrian forces, the levels of fuel and ammo they have and the strength and level of exhaustion they are experiencing. he also know the moral of the Syrian people, the levels of food and comfort they are enduring and Syria’s bank balance.
All these factors are important to any negotiation. Anything that can be resolved by talking instead of shooting helps Syria in the long run.
“And Turks get to keep their troops there.Its an de-facto annexation.”
So you’ve read the document then ….?
No,to be honest.But from what media reports its a point of agreement.Troops stay+retailiation right.
Check this out:
https://sputniknews.com/world/202003051078485714-russia-turkey-agree-on-common-document-on-settlement-in-syria—putin/
Throwing good money after bad if you ask me.
The SAA’s objective was to open the M4 and M% highways. The Turks’s objective was to roll back the SAA to the lines of the 2018 Sochi agreement.
Despite the second biggest army in NATO fighting against a nation who has been at war for 10 years and on the offensive for nearly 2 months the offensive action has ceased and M4 and M5 are open. That’s all you really need to know and more Turkish soldiers isn’t going to make them more effective if their coms and GPS are useless and aircraft are being tracked by Russian air defences. They just become targets.
What the Turks and the west in general won’t admit is that the “spectacular” success that Turkish drones enjoyed was in fact a sucker punch to the back of the head. The Turks have been permitted to fly surveillance drones over SAA forces since the 2018 Sochi agreement. The Turks not only violated a stand down agreement with the Russians …. they also violated the Sochi agreement by sending armed drones into Syria in addition to their surveillance drones at a time when Russian EW was down. The SAA never expected the Turkish drones they see every day to begin bombing them.
It didn’t last long though did it?
In your deluded mind. Erdodog has had his arse handed to him. If he was winning he wouldn’t agreed to a ceasefire, his desires for Idlib are obvious. He will continue to push the boundaries, the ceasefire won’t work and your beloved Erdodog will once again learn the hard way.
Last time such strategy was used, when the Turk-led terrorists tried a sort of Blitzkrieg with drones and F16s to try to recapture Saraqib and the al-Ghab plain, it cost dozens and dozens more of SAA lives than normal battle would have. Syria can’t be looking forward to such scenario.
You forget that any such attempt now gives Turkish army legitimacy to retaliate directly and by then the jihadees will be armed to their teeth.
HTS and TIP will not accept this for sure, M4 pass through Jisr Al-Shogur which is the center of the TIP, how will Russia patrol there? It will be necessary for the M4 to be cleansed of jihadists.
you got it it’s all the point of this agreement is not viable turkish will fail
With luck Syria has been able to secure Iran’s commitment to the liberation of Syria, Zioterrorists and Wahhabis have a more or less reliable partner in Putin knowing that Russia’s geopolitical stance is mostly defensive as Russia tries to find a place to fit in in the global Zioterrorist economic-military order.
Yeah I tend to agree with the point you’re making here! Funny thing is, regardless of whether jihadi zionists break this truce or not, the very option of a truce should never be on the table when Syria holds the winning cards. The constant stop and start to this war only emboldens Syria’s enemies and entrenched them, like in the North!
Another Jewhadi binned.
Goodbye.
This agreement was essentially the offer made to the Turks several weeks ago: No withdrawal of SAA to Sochi lines; return of displaced persons to their homes; no joint patrols in SAA controlled territory including M5 road; 12 Km M4 corridor to be created and cleared of terrorists and patrolled by Russia/Turkey. What was unsaid is the likely agreement to withdraw most of the Turk forces from Idlib.
It was interesting to watch the press conference because in all these situations the party who complains the most and has the most to say is always the losing side. Putin spoke for just a couple of minutes and thanked the Turks for their ‘constructive approach’, which is diplomatic speak for ‘thanks for agreeing to the Russian requirements’. Erdogan spoke for more than triple the time Putin did and blustered and complained etc.
Regardless, this is good news for the people of Idlib and for the soldiers on the ground. However it remains to be seen if this can provide the framework for the required permanent solution to this province which still has 10s of thousands of terrorists running wild.
I give it 30 days …
10 days
That’s quite possible given who we’re dealing with on the other side, but we never know. It will last ‘as long as it can’ and it gives us all a break..
in a generous mood then?
The offer was a 6 km line along the Turkish border.I dont get how they got to this.Its bigger then Afrin.
currently the situation will be like this after March 15th: the Terrorists will leave the area in black and also the are inside the rectangle if they do not want to be incircled without approvisions because they will not be supplied from the north as Russia will cut M4 with patrols and in the South there is SAA. so basically the M4 (and even 6km to the north of it) got returned without further fighting and will be secure along all other areas secured bu SAA https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2505cb60f94fa11af3c97e7c113cc86e47f6c4d35e7125a517e5240a05d9ae5e.png
Even if they withdraw from the rectangle as you say (highly doubt few patrols along a highway can cut off some supply),SAA cant take it over because its against the “ceasefire” agreement and the Turkish forces are now guarding the “ceasefire”.
it’s not just patrols … it’s a 12km wide safe area … safe area by definition will not have any terrorists be in it or pass it (which means 24/24 monitoring of the area by UAVs and ground patrols). that’ would stop supplies.
The idea is to kick it down the road to the Geneva process and the constitutional convention which will be an entirely Syrian process, after which the Turks will have to leave Afrin, Aleppo, Hasaka and Idlib.
Al-cia-da and Turkisis are famous for holding. ceasefires…
IN DEPTH: Interview with Assad – We Will Liberate Idlib from Erdogan’s Muslim Brotherhood Terrorists President Assad: The core of the issue is American policy. At a point in time, the United States decided that secular governments in the region were no longer able to implement the plans and roles designated to them https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/03/in-depth-interview-with-assad-we-will-liberate-idlib-from-erdogans-muslim-brotherhood-terrorists/
Yes, the US prefers the ‘ US Anointed Warlord’ system of governance for other nations.
SAA gets control of 50 % of IDLIB … TURK posts in SAA lands will be vacated … SAA gets a rest for a few weeks and the rats have lost all their food supplies
So they have to withdraw troops?
Why do you think they have lost food supplies, Tim?
majority of agricultural areas are no longer in control of the rats
But they have recaptured Al Ghab plain, unfortunately…
that is below the M 4 … That is to become SAA land
The vast majority of the Al Ghab plain remains under the control of SAA. Any terrorist element that remains south of M4 will be sandwiched between the M4 buffer zone and the SAA.
If Turkey breaks the deal … there will not be another meeting with Putin … this is it
True !
Terroristlers must surrender the M4 to joint patrols?
LOL, this deal isn’t gonna work. Ceasefire will go down like a drunken prom date. I think we all know what happens next.
That’s the deal …
Idlib just got Turkey now,get over it as quickly as possible. :)
Imbecile, Turkey just gave up M4 and all the territories from which their terrorist rats were kicked out by SAA. Now rats will start shooting again and more territories will be liberated.
I think you missed the: troops stay/retaliation right part. :)
Troops stay where they are. No territories given back to rats. We all know what happens next. Rats start shooting again and loose more territories. Step by step Idlib will be liberated.
In the mean time, south of M4 will be bombed by both Syrian and Russian Air Forces to move the jihadi’s out.
https://sputniknews.com/world/202003051078485714-russia-turkey-agree-on-common-document-on-settlement-in-syria—putin/
They can deploy Erodgans palace but that doesn’t change the fact that you rats, lost more territory to its rightful owners.
don’t worry syrian army is going to respect this agreement for ten days … until turkey don’t like everytime
There is no ‘troops stay/retalliation part’ in the agreement.
https://sputniknews.com/world/202003051078485714-russia-turkey-agree-on-common-document-on-settlement-in-syria—putin/
as I said it is a temporary situation untill Sochi is figured out and terrorists dealt with. and there is no retaliation (ceasefire if broken SAA will resume attack). You missed the point. Idlib is Syrian Territory, SAA has the right to liberate it. Russia Supports SAA in claiming their undevized land. this Agreement is to clear current situation not a general consensus for the next 100 years. they will talk again soon.
You get it. They explain Putins strategy well here. It works, so the morons on this board should stop complaining about victory. It makes them look like morons or a zio mossad trolls.
“It makes them look like morons or a zio mossad trolls.”(c) Or both.
That’s what is expected but that would only lead to more territories liberated by SAA. If you didn’t learn how does it work from past couple of years than I suggest that you look closely now.
Yeah its not my first rodeo.
LOL…good one! SAA couldn’t liberate a child from its ice cream…
Rat, if that 1.5 brain cells in your head do not allow you to compare Syria map of 2015 and 2020 than nothing will help you. But don’t expect others to fall to this imbecile level.
You sound intellectually challenged and you look like you smell bad. SAA man?
They only thing that smells bad is the shit you type on the comments, Mac Crap.
Knuckle head.
If anyone is intellectually challenged here it is you, but more so morally;- Who would think of a reply that insinuates taking ice-cream from a child……………are you a paedophile ? You sound like one.
Hey Tudor, he hasn’t got that many !
Of course, terrorists were created by USA-Israel-NATO (Turkey) with the help of Qatar-Saudis-Jordan-Pakistan with the goal to destroy Syria, Iran, and Russia. As far as these nations continue supporting terrorists, the attacks to Syria land will continue.
Terrorists will start attacks soon, they’ve got cactus up in their ass. No ceasefire then. Before the meeting & during the meeting Russians and SAA kept pounding.
I give it until mid April
That’s a possibility, considering the fact Israelis kept bombing from the other side which looked like easing the continuous pressure on The Turks & terrorists. Another thing is since Hafter is trying an assault, what’s gonna happen in that front?
I totally understand you, cactus up in the ass can be a very tricky thing …
All Turk post must located north of the M 4 and west of M 5 outside of SAA held areas … Turk post are subject to snap inspections by Russian MP’S to insure they have nothing more than light arms … Turks will be limited to just 12 observation posts … any additional ones built will be subject to bombings until they are eliminated …
Ceasefire conclusion: for two settlements west of Saraqib terrorists traded whole Zawiya mountain, with over 50 settlements on about 500km2 of territory. And, just as importantly, they were left without a complete defensive line south of Idlib that they had been fortifying for several years. Like I said at the beggining of the operation few week ago – SAA made a good trade!
95 % of all food production is now in SAA hands …
No problem at all ! Hungry terrorist can suck Erdogans tit and his d*ck to feed themselves. Hope that Erdogan’s milk is not too stale…
lol
To sum it up: “The cessation of all hostilities along the existing line of contact from midnight on March 6th; Russia and Turkey create a six-kilometer-long security corridor north and south of the M-4 highway in Syria Russia and Turkey agreed on March 15th to begin joint patrols along the M-4 highway in Syria.” It means that Turkey’s operation didn’t allow them to get territories liberated by SAA back to rats occupation, It means that without a fight – M4 will be liberated otherwise Russian MP’s can not conduct joint patrols without rates being removed behind M4.
And all Turks observation posts currently in SAA controlled areas must be vacated
Is there any time line on that.
i suggest the same suscess on eastern ukrainian and baltic borders with russia.
I suggest you toughen the fk up,and stop riiping off american taxpayers for soros +bindens fake earn’t prosperity,take heed,no more pathedic excuses either you are a man or a mouse,russia were never the problem ok! Proof?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLur6qiV87E
PUTIN tells ERDO …. BUST THE DEAL …. FACE THE WHEEL …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLjwEodCmT4
So,the occupation of Idlib is official now? Who gave the right to Putin to do this?
you are an idiot…. but since I know you as troll from earlier comments you are an idiot and troll
Puši kurac
Pusi ti kitu drugu Titu, jebo te on u ta usta zvalava.
Uuu,pa gdje si brate Ustašo!
yep, your mirror tells right sentences
There are 5 false accounts which disliked my comment?!? So you open 5 accounts for things like this ? To up-vote yourself or down vote somebody else?
Than YOU ARE PAID TROLL a professional! How much do they pay you? And who pays you? Turks? Jews? NATO? And you put photo of communist dictator from Balkans..
Mrš u pičku materinu! Dosadan si.
There are 7 false accounts which disliked my comment?!? So you open 7 accounts for things like this ? To up-vote yourself or down vote somebody else?
Than YOU ARE PAID TROLL a professional! How much do they pay you? And who pays you? Turks? Jews? NATO? And you put photo of communist dictator from Balkans.
You can say that whight is black but it would not make it true. But keep trying :)
Foreign troops on my countries soil=Occupation
Which country you are from?
Serbia,why?
You mentioned foreign forces on your soil. That’s why I asked – to know which soil did you mean.
I am generally speaking,if you have foreign troops on your soil it means occupation.
Fair point. But in this situation saying that means looking at current state of the process. I suggest that you look at the process in development. Than it is evident that despite intervention of NATO intervening and directly supporting their irregular armed forces (alqueda/daesh), SAA was able to liberate large part of its land. More than that – terrorist rats will have to give uo M4 without a fight. Yes, occupation is still there but it was reduced. That’s how Putin is doing this thing – steadily removing foreign forces from Syrian land without letting it sleep into premature confrontation with NATO that would lead to WWIII. Yes, it may seem slower than desired but that’s the way it works without escalating into major conflict.
https://sputniknews.com/world/202003051078485714-russia-turkey-agree-on-common-document-on-settlement-in-syria—putin/
Are you people blind? Putin gave Idlib to Erdogan in exchange for him babysitting his chechen,dagestani,uzbek and other Russian jihadies.!
I will try one more time. Look at the map of Syria a month ago and look at it now. Don’t you see that red territory is increasing? But if you think that rats won than it’s up to you. It doesn’t change the fact that SAA operation to retake M5 and prevent terrorist rats from shelling Aleppo was successful. Turkey’s operation to prevent it and take back lands liberated from alqueda was a failure.
Right. SAA could have taken whole Idlib in few weeks.
Get your hand of it fake heart,you seen nothing yet bosnian muppet!
Bosnia is just a Serbian province and you undercover nazi trolls keep bapthising me.Sisaj karu ustašo!
No if you have uninvited foreign troops means occupation,huge fkn difference!
Didnt knew Syria invited the Turkish army,thx for the info,retard.
Yes Serbia is occupied and so is Syria.
Serbia ousted un forces in 2015,serbia is not occupied (period)
do not discuss wit miron. he is extremly stupid moldavian guy migrated in moscow. he is fanatic commie, the same argues like khrushchev.
And you are that retarded slovakian nazi degenerate Solomon Krupacek, for some reason you are obsessed with Miron. 50% of all your dumb comments are about him, other 50% are some antirussian garbage.
really up de assed incest nazi! heres you fake lefties tyraid,you fool no one bot!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLur6qiV87E
Tito’s fanboy… Tito was a croatian communist criminal and you worship him??
Tito was a great man.He wiped your Nazi country clean:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleiburg_repatriations
He was a piece of shit, just like you… go join him in hell.
Fuck off nazi scum! Israel never forgets.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/808dbff12d05d6ec11f6a1edcb5eb95b8f956dfa08901d05a8119efa7d083e86.jpg
Napuši se ustašo.Tito vam je jebo mater.Odmah ste se digli čim je umro.
Ustasa si ti govno jedno glupo, cak i pricas ijekavicom, idi popusi titu u paklu. A ovaj Adi ti je decko ili jos jedan lazni akaunt, bukvalno pisete u razmaku od 30 sekundi?
Napuši se kiteeee,ustašoooo,ustašooo! Srbija do Tokija brate!
https://youtu.be/Q4Ee9POKGik
Croats are reight winged ok,nazi wannabes ok,Yugoslavia was communist! History proves masonic templar reight wingers were the cause of genocides where as the accusations are proven in todays governance of anti communists socialist fascism aint communist nor chinese,nor cccp (victors) nor heterosexuals or shall we say pro-eu-epp retards like the rest of slime assume reights is clean!
Bullfknsht you are,fool truth not,unless you sucked gaytos cok!
Buš mi dal da malo karam Kolindu striček?
He is from Croatia, fake troll with another fake 6 accounts (almost all those who vote for him are literally new accounts with 0 comments)
I would rather be from Turkey then from a nazi-vatikan state of Croatia.I dont get what you NATO nazis doing here?
Yeah I’m sure you like Turkey… nato nazis? you mean you, your 10 fake accounts, and your boyfriends Kananada and Adi?
Your NATO Croatia and former nazi sattelite NDH.You not proud of your heritage as Croat and Vatikan lapdog? I only have 1 account and you and your troll friends are annoying to everyone.
the chechen djamahiria :)
U pravu si skroz. Putin-Erdo deal stinks…
Assad dumbass!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLur6qiV87E
“six-kilometer-long security corridor”. LONG???
wide
It’s OK. And what about Jisr Al Shugur, which is at M4 too?
joint patrolled … free of rats
I recon it is rather “6km in either side”. That is how it is referred to in “Syria live map”
Turkey that was desperate for a ceasefire had to sell out the terrorists that they aided and fought together with. Not an inch of the governments gains has to be reversed but Turkey have to make the terrorist pullback on all fronts and the terrorists still needs to be defeated.
1 way tickets to Libya for them …
I would guess that Libya was brought up during one on one talks. I also think USA had to many demands on Turkey. But that’s only me guessing.
Erdogan have made up his mind.He is going to reinforce his terrorists rearming and repositioning and set up lots of terrorists observation spy bases.Ceasefire does not exist according to Erdogan just to night their will start with suprise attack on Syrian targets and hit and run tactic.Ceasfire and immediate full withdrawal of Turkish troop from Idlip could have work.
he is limited to only 12 … PUTIN told him any additional ones would be bombed and put out of action
Tim Erdogan is in serious pressure back home.So expect the unexpected.
Agree,without troop withdrawal its a no deal.Its making of a new turkish zone like in the NE just bigger then 30km.
Again, You don’t get it. They explain Putins strategy well here. It works, so the morons on this board should stop complaining about victory. It makes them look like morons or a zio mossad trolls.
To think that Turkey will stop supporting terrorists is just a Russian dream. Even worst, Turkey has been sending to terrorists advanced weapons !! So, the situation for Russia air basis and SAA army is really a problem if Russia air space force stop giving strong support to ground troops. Turkey artillery and drones attacks in Idlib should be eliminated. However, Putin did not mention anything about this, did he ?
a ceasefire includes what you are mentioning
You still don’t get it! They explain Putins strategy well here. It works, so the morons on this board should stop complaining about victory. It makes them look like morons or a zio mossad trolls.
Finally, Erdogan has been forced to become sane.
To all the Muslim brothers and sisters, Syria can be Muslim or Secular, it does not really matter. Hell, you can make it a Muslim country through a legitimate constitutional process if you desire. It does not take away religious freedom of minorities (in fact under Islamic Law, you must guarantee their freedom and safety). But look at it this way: if Assad falls, you have a weaker Syria and with it essentially no opposition to Israel. Iran remains isolated as the only independent country in the Resistance Axis. That is not a favorable picture for a future free Middle East as in the grand scheme of things, US and Israel will have been handed victory. The idea was to take out Iraq, Syria then Iran. All other countries are ”allies”. We all know what happened with Iraq, and now Syria, then Iran.
If you truly believe Erdogan is fighting to liberate the Middle East and Muslim lands, then you should support Assad and keep Syria strong. This is what perplexes Assad as he seems not to understand why Turkey is fighting Syria and yet they have “common” interests. This whole f*cking thing is illogical – unless of course Erdogan works for Israel.
Unless… That mad Turk thinks that he works for himself but in reality he’s nothing but a puppet without even realising it. But that’s what Ottoman empire always was – a tool/cannon fodder in the hands of west.
Turkey terrorists will never separate and will grab this opportunity to pull Erdogan in Serious big war and risk his presidency.